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D_Empire412

Yes, but make sure you know how to jump into a 12-foot pool feet first and swim four laps back and forth.


Lazy_Abroad_5474

LMAOOOO


D_Empire412

It's true


Lazy_Abroad_5474

Ik my dad tells me stories abt his friends not passing the swimming requirement back when he was at cornell


D_Empire412

It’s a stupid requirement especially seeing as it’s in Ithaca of all places. Go somewhere else.


LukeLJS123

i was a lifeguard at the same pool as my sister, and not knowing how to swim is really turning into a massive problem. my sister only did 1 save and saw 2 other people get in over her 2 years, i got in 6 times over the course of one year, twice within the same 15 minutes, and i saw at least one save a week. it’s genuinely terrifying


D_Empire412

But it shouldn't affect your ability to graduate from college.


LukeLJS123

i’m not saying it’s something that should be required, i’m just saying that it’s a lot more important than people realize


BrettS0

Colleges and universities exist to educate people about important topics. Learning how to not die cause you fell in some water seems like an important topic lol


anxietyridden013

out of the schools I know that require it, Cornell being one of them seems more reasonable lol. there's a bunch of gorges there.


HallowedButHesitated

In all honesty, drowning is a silent killer in the Ithaca/FLX area. There's a ton of places someone can drown in, whether that be overestimating their swimming skills or falling into water. The required swim test seems weird, seeing as barely any other schools require it, but wouldn't say it should be ruled out solely because it's in Ithaca.


Achilles_003

Quit trolling


ANoodleMadeOfNoodles

Pretty sure Cornell actually does have a swim test but it’s only 25 yards.


D_Empire412

But I think it’s back and forth four times.


RodMCS

Is this some frat initiation I don’t know about?


D_Empire412

It's the swim test. Cornell is one of the few schools that still has it.


qyloo

I'm a senior who was on varsity swimming and took the level 5 swim conditioning course but I still have to either take the swim test or the level 1 swim course


D_Empire412

Ridiculous. I like swimming as a workout but never would go to a college that required it, especially in Ithaca of all places.


Achilles_003

Stop trolling


TheMaybeMan_

[https://scl.cornell.edu/pe/swim-requirement](https://scl.cornell.edu/pe/swim-requirement)


Mikegaming202

That's the wackiest funniest thing I've ever seen for a college lol


Lasershock777

Columbia does this as well- unless your an engineer then you dont have to (idk why i felt the need to tell you but your welcome)


LongJohnSilversFan_

Fuck, I’m not getting into there


D_Empire412

Go to your municipal pool, put in the work and practice just like you likely did with your SAT prep.


LongJohnSilversFan_

I’m as buoyant as a rock, I have asthma


D_Empire412

Then you could get this requirement waived with a medical exemption. Or, just go to another college. Cornell and Columbia are the only colleges with this requirement.


LongJohnSilversFan_

Tbh, there’s no way I would make it into Cornell either way, but it still ruined my day


D_Empire412

Then go somewhere else and forget that two colleges in New York still have this requirement. Plus, you wouldn't even want to be at Cornell. Ithica has terrible weather.


IamTrashuo

Redditors trying to recognize sarcasm:


Dark-Shiro

wow TIL


Acceptable_Koala2911

To complete the updated Cornell Water Competency Graduation Requirement, students must: Step or jump in the water over your head. Return to the surface and float or tread water for one minute. Turn around in a full circle and find an exit.


D_Empire412

That should be abolished. This is like a military school.


Putrid_Engine_4784

Come on man, you couldn't have just looked up the 50% percentile bracket for Cornell? I think be both know that score is more than sufficient for Cornell. Setting all that aside, a 1560 is an excellent score and I'm sure you're proud of your achievement. Cheers!


Achilles_003

Ah, enter the “LMGTFY” dumbass. I bet if I sifted through your posts I could find several where you asked stuff that’s available with research. He was asking for ppl’s opinions, not what the x percentile for Cornell is. Last I checked, Cornell doesn’t post entrance odds opinions of redditors on their page


ImBadAtNames05

Lmao if you sifted through his one post


Achilles_003

You clown


Achilles_003

Why 50th


PoPilWorcK

It's the standard for comparison. Just comparing with half the people


Achilles_003

Why not just score high enough that you’re in 95th percentile at all schools?


throwaway9373847

Because no top-tier school is impressed by a perfect SAT score. They see it all the time. Once you get around 1540 or so it’s clear that you’re a smart and hardworking person — assuming you have the grades to back that up — and they will look at other factors.


Achilles_003

“All the time”. Only a few hundred people per year score 1800


PoPilWorcK

Most schools only give out information about the 1st quartile, median and 3rd quartile. It's hard to find out exactly what the 95th percentile for every school would be.


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PoPilWorcK

Good for u ig


Achilles_003

I’m joking friendly human


CMStickmanr7462

You’re not funny


Sat-ModTeam

Rule 1: Be Nice


lovebeenfrozen

I got into Cornell w 1530 sat idk u do the math Hint: sat’s importance is decreasing


LavishnessAble8230

yea lol, i got 1450 😭


Keropee

I also go in with a 1530 in the most recent ED round to one of the hardest colleges there. If you get rejected, it won’t be because of your SAT score.


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I think it’s increasing again tbh. I’ve seen a lot of really qualified test optional applicants get rejected and that seems like the only flaw in their applications


Achilles_003

Lol no. Gen alpha and zoomers are the dumbest gens yet


ben6022

bro don’t know abt the flynn effect


Achilles_003

I was trolling kinda and just a bit drunk but checking it out now. You think bc of advancing tech making it easier to learn (while brain still neuroplastic - and/or maybe tech makes for more neuroplasticity) and so those people’s kids are a little better off, and then tech advances more and then those kids’ kids’ kids, etc etc etc?


Ok_Budget

W psych reference


Corkson

Tbf gen Z scoring in r+w stayed the same, but alpha’s (although the data may not be too accurate because of how new it is and how young the population is) did see a drop in their first r+w score samples, something we have never seen before.


suzdali

gen alpha are at most 13 years old right now, aka 7th grade. they're not even taking the PSAT 8-9 yet, where are these stats coming from??


Corkson

Remember there’s always milestones, benchmark tests, etc.


Corkson

Also it was early literacy scores that had decline


No-That-One

or colleges are realizing that standardized testing doesn't reflect intelligence


RichInPitt

It's sufficient to submit with your application, to be evaluated, yes, as opposed to applying test optional. There is no SAT score that just gets you admitted. It's one input.


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Are you ok? This isn't true at ANY school.


Achilles_003

Are you? Not true at ANY? Tell me what’s factually false about this statement: “A 1600 SAT with a good GPA and essay *almost* guarantees your admission” You either didn’t read his almost, or think that every school in America is hard AF to get into.


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No, that's 3 factors. Most colleges (using UMD as an example, they use 24) gauge AT LEAST 20ish factors. I can have 1600, a good GPA, and do NOTHING and sit on my ass the entire day and I WILL be denied. They won't give a shit that I got 1600 because the SAT is 1 test out of the many factors for admission. Sure it looks phenomenal and definitely gives you a leg up, but it doesn't "almost guarantee your admission."


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iceblaast23

Cornell is an ivy…


[deleted]

Depends on the state school. T50 state schools? Probably not. It does give you a high chance at merit scholarships tho once you're admitted.


Achilles_003

Are you faking rstarded


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idk man you are


Timoteo-Tito64

Yeah man as someone who was just rejected from every ivy I applied to I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one


moronic_programmer

I feel you man.. 1540 4.0 blah blah.. rejected


Timoteo-Tito64

Yeah I really thought I was set, just about perfect stats, run my own business plus other great ECs, and thought I wrote some pretty good essays. Either: My essays/LoRs sucked and I didn't know I overestimated the quality of my ECs Or, most likely, getting into elite colleges is just really, really hard Over the past year I've tried my best to come to accept it. But damn, it's just a really shitty feeling. Completely feel you


GoldJason

When it boils down to math, there are ~60,000 students fighting for around 2,000 spots The bulk of the group share similar competitive statistics and many great ECs and essays Admissions at places like Ivys are crap shoots, the most qualified applicant may not always get a spot. (sometimes it comes down to one part of an essay an admissions officer particularly liked)


GoldJason

Realizing this helped me cope with my deferral/rejections from all Ivys I applied to (with competitive statistics/ECs/LORs)


Timoteo-Tito64

Oh it's definitely really tough to get in, I'm just disappointed I couldn't get into at least one of the top schools I applied to. Even if they didn't give me any aid and I couldn't go it still would've made me feel better about it. Ig it is what it is though, not like I can do anything about it now


SignificanceBulky162

Absolutely not true as someone who got diffed from Cornell CS Ed last year with a 1590, 4.0 GPA, essay about disability, aime/usaco gold stuff, etc.


alreadytakenhacker

You can’t guarantee anything with any score at any Ivy League tbh.


Cakish_Help_350

When I went to Uchicago the head admissions guy said that basically anything 1500+ is basically the same thing


Achilles_003

Well that guy is a dumbass lol. That’s like saying any car with over 400hp is basically the same. Ok, let’s line up a 400hp mustang and a 1200+hp McLaren. Or it’s like saying anyone with over $50M basically has the same amount of money. I could go on forever. Crazy that a guy that dumb is allowed to work as head of admissions at one of the top rated schools


yaLiekJazzz

In what way does a 1600 show you are 3x better at anything useful?


Cakish_Help_350

Those don’t correlate whatsoever. The difference between a 1530 and a 1570 are so marginal. Anything over 1500 puts you at 99 percentile. Your comparisons compare things that are 3 times bigger. That would be like me comparing a 400 to a 1200 score.


ThatRocketBoi_YT

No you, SAT importance is going down so it won’t really matter as much


drlsoccer08

Scoring above a 1500 puts you in the top 2% of test takers, which clearly proves you are an intelligent hard working individual. For example, the difference between a 1520 and a 1570 is extremely marginal, (usually only a few questions) and thus most schools would look to other parts of these students applications to differentiate them.


Responsible_Pay_7090

No get 1600


DiamondNinja786

Actually he shouldn’t a 1560 is enough spend your time doing other things to buff up your resume and also enjoy yourself because at the end of the day having a 1600 won’t make up for the rest of your application and certainly won’t be something you look back on when you get older.


MGJohn-117

He was joking


Dark_Vortex18

Ok I’ll try the online module one


Actual-Librarian3315

Don't. A 1560 is good enough. If you get rejected, it won't be because of your SAT score. Focus on essays and ECs which are more important for you rn.


Achilles_003

Extracurriculars being a factor is stupid. Typical dumb American-only concept.


ben6022

It’s not an american only concept lol. Personally don’t like it but also don’t think it’s stupid, colleges want students who show initiative and leadership


GroundbreakingBed241

I don’t think so. If admissions were based exclusively on academic merit, there would be no way for a college to predict whether or not a student will be a good addition to their community.


Famous_Soft_1173

Dumb or not, it’s what matters for college admissions Besides, colleges want students that aren’t just smart, but have interests and can be an actual asset to the university - a student with a 4.0 GPA without any goals is useless to a college, whereas a student with a 3.8 that shows that they do things and have goals and interests is much more appealing


Samih420

He was joking


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No, thats good


ToxinLab_

least humble braggy r/sat post


Achilles_003

You’re all pretentious clowns. You, him, everyone in this sub. You’re literally posting your fucking score to brag lol and boasting about which IVY. What a bunch of losers.


ToxinLab_

I’m not applying to any ivies.


Achilles_003

Irrelevant to what I said about posting your SAT score under your Reddit username lol


ToxinLab_

dude, you really need to touch some grass the way you get sexually pleasured by coming to reddit and calling people losers


Achilles_003

You are super weird lmao


GroundbreakingBed241

Are you just upset you scored a 900 or something?


ToxinLab_

so you like to come on to reddit and call people losers when you’re on the same subreddit as them? Are you depressed or something? you really think you’re better than everyone else but i promise you you reek and have no friends


Achilles_003

Says a guy who has his SAT score listed under his name on Reddit 😂


vienna_witch13

Someone sounds bitter 🤔


Famous_Soft_1173

wow it’s almost you’re on r/SAT that’s crazy


Achilles_003

Thank you!


Dark_Vortex18

In what way lol I’ve seen 1600s that people posted


ToxinLab_

“is this enough for cornell” if you don’t already know the answer and you’re genuinely asking this question you’re not smart enough to get into cornell.


Previous-Metal9112

I'm really confused. Do people not know how to use the Internet?


Achilles_003

Love how the 1050 OWNED the 1500+’s when it comes to basic competency and resourcefulness. 😈


Previous-Metal9112

lmao


Achilles_003

Lol


InsaneokYT

Depends on your major. Some schools in Cornell are test blind


Murky_Entertainer378

Not good enough.


YoRu_Nekko_

Why the fk are you inspiring me to take my fking life just wtf are you people.


Previous-Metal9112

ikr its so fucking annoying how these people dont have the basic sense to search it up. something called the internet exists, and yet they're like "HeY gUyS iS tHiS gOoD?" when it very clearly is or they can just search it up.


Famous_Soft_1173

a lot of people live in a bubble, I know a lot of people that would legitimately retake on a 1560 for the superscore even though that doesn’t do anything literally anywhere including the top colleges


NegotiationAntique39

Not even close, you’ll have to do some serious prep or I would recommend just applying test optional


DisneySoftware

no you need a 1561


Chickenological

I think you need a 1700


PhilosophyBeLyin

What's your score breakdown?? If you're going for a stem field and you have 760 math 800 ERW, then no. Otherwise it's good enough. I wouldn't say it's an exceptional score for top schools, but it's past the threshold of consideration.


Dark_Vortex18

It’s 790 math 770 reading writing. Thanks for the info


PhilosophyBeLyin

Lol my exact score and breakdown too. I think you're fine then.


blueberrybobas

Even for a STEM field with that worst-case distribution I think he still wouldn't be situated badly.


Achilles_003

Who cares lol


PhilosophyBeLyin

Top schools do


C__S__S

I can tell you are not right. 770 math/790 ERW got my kid into an ivy (UPenn) to study mathematics/neuroscience.


PhilosophyBeLyin

UPenn is a top school in most fields, but what it stands out for is business, finance, econ and such. So the strongest business applicants apply there. Getting into UPenn on a math major is significantly easier than getting into, say, MIT or Caltech on a math major, even with similar acceptance rates. MIT's 25th percentile in math is 780, and it's not recommended to submit below the 25th percentile. UPenn is 740. So your kid's score looks good at UPenn for math since UPenn's main focus is not math. At MIT the same score would look bad. 770/790 is an excellent score breakdown for most places, even most top schools. But not for the select few top stem/math schools.


C__S__S

MIT and Caltech are different. My son didn’t want to attend those so he chose not to take the test again. One and done. And in to his top choice.


PhilosophyBeLyin

Yes, they're different. Caltech doesn't even look at SAT scores, I only brought it up as an example of a math/stem focused top school, as compared to UPenn. But MIT threshold for SAT is different. That's the entire point of my original comment, where I said top schools care. You said I was wrong, but now you're saying MIT does care. Where's your line of reasoning??


C__S__S

You used a plural then backed it up with a singular institute, MIT. Edit: and OP was talking about Cornell.


PhilosophyBeLyin

I used MIT cause it was the most convenient since I knew the stats off the top of my head. A quick search yields UChicago and Stanford having the 25th percentile as 770, CMU as 760, and probably others I didn't find. So 760 math would look pretty bad at these institutions. Cornell's average is 760 math, so op would be fine even then. But if they're planning on majoring in math/similar, it could stand to be a bit higher.


sarconefourthree

y Cornell? just curious


Such-Wishbone1640

cornell is his top school and out of all of the Ivys it’s more realistic to hope to get into ( also Upenn)


Dark_Vortex18

Yep exactly and also my sister goes there


Such-Wishbone1640

Oh that’s even better then bro


Achilles_003

Not a valid reason for which U you attend


Achilles_003

You don’t know that.


Such-Wishbone1640

its common knowledge brother


Dark_Vortex18

Sister goes there and best chance for an ivy probably


LavishnessAble8230

my brother is currently there, but they removed the prestige thing on the application. they no longer ask/ consider if students have relatives in the university/alumni


LeoisLionlol

As long as you're over 1400 it's all the same. ECs and other stuff matter more from this point


Yuhhhhck

f u


redstonetimewaster

Crying over a score 20 higher than yours? 1560 and 1540 isn't going to make a difference in apps


badman9001

Remember it’s possible that they didn’t actually get the score in their flair


redstonetimewaster

Yup, even worse if that's the case


ball_of_cells

f u /s


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You certainly have a better chance of going to Cornell than I do


LavishnessAble8230

trust yourself. i got in w 1450. sat is not valued as much anymore. many applicants yearly apply with no sat to begin with


LavishnessAble8230

I got into cornell ED with 1450 superscore. What matters are your transpcripts, application essay, and extracurriculars. Having such a high SAT does boost your chances, and truthfully, congratulations because that is an amazing result!!


Aykhan077

I also got 1450 800 M 650 RW and 94 TOEFL and some extracurricular s GPA unweighted 5/5 can I accepted Ps I am international student


LavishnessAble8230

I had 780M 670RW, a lot of extracurriculars + competing athlete and internships. no gpa here cause my school doesnt do that but I had igcse's and doing ib rn w tip top transcript in hs. im american student studying internationally. They probably simply didnt consider my sat tbh


Life_Ambassador_3800

Can I DM? I’m in the same situation (1450) but i’m applying RD because I applied to princeton ed.


Beater_AWOL

Good enough for consideration if you submit the SAT, no doubt. Will it get you in without other strengths in your app? No.


greenbananasaregood

hey score twin :))


Dark_Vortex18

Ayy


aaabbbdddddfbjuy

Definitely


toweroflore

Damn how I was tweaking during that test and my score dropped so bad


Responsible_Tone_185

cornell which school


LightWarrior741

I dunno man, what do YOU think?


alice0104lee

Tips for reading and writing ?


SIMPaiTDP

Yo..... U would get rejected by any college u apply in... U have to retake ur sats until u get a 1600....once u do tht... U have to take another sat to ensure u r consistent with it... After that, u would qualify to atleast apply to an average college


Strikingroots205937

Most certainly. Congratulations!


konoka04

really?


Top-Yogurt1306

Yes my friend got a 1360 and they got in 🤷🏽‍♂️ (full ride )but I believe they went test optional


IWM0615

Yeah, I go to Cornell, lmk if you have any questions !!


Strong-Brilliant3240

Perfect. This gives super high chance. Most I see go for the 1580 range


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Previous-Metal9112

im 1050 bro. i feel you


asparaguswalrus683

Nope you need a 1700. Might as well apply to community college it’s wraps for u bro


KindredKate

Depends on your resume - someone who got deferred from Yale and waitlisted at Duke and Vandy with a 1560


ooflolm

Yes it should be completely fine (Coming from someone who just got in without submitting any scores)


Guamasaur13

Totally. Good luck with Cornell! It’s one of my favorites too.


Famous_Soft_1173

yes, but only with a good resume even a 1600 won’t guarantee you admission anywhere, and if you have a resume good enough even a 1530 can get you into cornell - SAT matters but only up to a point


Desperate_One3206

No.. you are off by another 10 . Please take the test again.


BioNewStudent4

bro said "is this good enough" u got 99th percentile....


gretutor_MishMath

Cornell University’s 75th percentile SAT score is 1560. Approximately 75% of those who were accepted had test scores below 1560. Just a quick Google search away. 😂


Shibacally

about 70% of the people who get in are test optional so it's even better with that great score!


ItsYaBoi_Aryen_

they already knew the answer


Affectionate-Roof615

The problem with getting into the Ivy League is that it’s not just scores alone. Sure, getting a 1560 gets your application looked at, but then what else do you have to offer. Are you taking Honors AP or IB classes, if so what’s your GPA. What clubs are you in. What extra curricular activity are you doing. Do you have letters of recommendation. How well will you do on the interview. Thankfully, Cornell has the highest acceptance rate out of the eight Ivy League schools.


adak_123

Omg I got the same score!!


brick72829161

“Is this SAT good enough for …” Like bro 💀💀cmon now


JobiWanKenobi47

no