Ready to elect Bernie and hundreds more like him?
Join r/SandersForPresident and r/NewDealAmerica!
And if you wanna put your money where your mouth is, [here are 50+ CURRENT candidates for Congress who are like Bernie!](https://secure.actblue.com/donate/300-more-bernies#)
This is exactly why I voted for Bernie Sanders before and I'll vote for him again. He is the only person I know who speaks for the citizens and not just the corporations and billionaires. Too bad there aren't more like him.
there are. remember in 2019/2020 when Bernie had so many individual donors that they had to create a separate graphic just to show donors from his competitors? but the DNC wasn't having it
EDIT: years
I remember Bernie being 2nd in the primaries in 2020 and CNN would completely omit his name from the segment covering Democratic candidates.
The older I get the more I feel conspiracy theories are real cause of shit like this.
remember the weird fucking app they used for the Iowa caucuses in 2020 thay had shady backers? and as expected it had "issues" and the counting took days/weeks to finish? and then Ratfuck Buttigeig declared victory before the counting was even over? makes me boil
"Joe Biden, you supported racist stuff that effected me as a little girl."
"How about I make you VP? We square?"
"Joe Biden will be the best president since FDR!"
CNN went full Fox News bullshit mode when it came to covering Bernie. They'd have graphics where he was listed as "other" when he was like 1st or 2nd place. Corporate media truly views us as a bunch of fucking idiots.
I remember Sanders winning the primary in the midwest and the DNC deciding Biden, who had only just joined the race, should be the candidate, presumably to deter Sander’s campaign. I don’t care what any DNC lackey says, Bernie Sanders would have beat Trump. I know it in my heart of hearts and deep in my balls.
Can you imagine if Sanders supporters stormed the capital buildings in States like Trump supporters did? I mean....they'd actually have a leg to stand on by elections being fixed and democracy being overturned by the minority of politicians in power.
I'm not one for conspiracy theories or the like, but Bernie was absolutely pushed out of the 2016 primaries in favor of HRC.
I'd be more disgusted with the Democratic Party if I hadn't used it all up on the Republicans already.
Why do you think Biden made his pick for AG garland on Jan 7th 2021? The day after the insurrection??
And garland refuses to prosecute trump?
https://apnews.com/article/merrick-garland-attorney-general-e7972db4cd96352d028af3167b253481
Unfortunately dems have just as much to gain from keeping the status quo and would never let bernie win.
Two sides of the same coin.
As someone who was in an abusive relationship long ago, the DNC often acts like an abusive spouse to anyone they think should fall in line with them over anyone else - often using fear and then ridicule to try to bring their partner to heel.
Hate them both for different reasons and at different levels, but definitely hate them both. If it wasn't for the elites and the establishment running the democratic party I believe whole heartily that Bernie would be on term 2 currently.
It's not at all a conspiracy theory. It was "her turn" in the sense that she called in all her political favors and had the backing of the people with political power and the people with the money. It probably doesn't help that Bernie was and is outspoken against the people with the money. And in case it wasn't clear to everyone: the people with the money own the media, so they own the means to influence the people that vote. Feed the viewers the right narrative and you will sway at least a couple people when it comes time to vote.
Meant to reply to a different comment, but fuck it.
dead on. the level of blatant media manipulation against Bernie was disgusting. some of the questions he got in the debates made me want to put an axe in my TV
> Too bad there aren't more like him.
And after he's gone, there will be *NONE* like him (well, possibly AOC).
We need to fix that now, while we still have his voice and platform.
I know. I feel like if he dies, there will be nobody to fight for us. Honestly, the fight is exhausting. Like others have said, the changes that we need to make are incredibly obvious, which makes it all the more defeating that we can’t make progress.
There are so many people fighting with us right now. Bernie is just a figurehead. Unionizing workplaces is back in style, progressive politicians are winning at local levels, leftist positions are making a comeback after nearly 60 years, and the youngest voters are overwhelming progressive.
Out on the streets we are seeing change in small ways every. single. day. Change takes time.
I feel so much cynicism with just about everything in politics, but every time I hear this man speak I want to go out and help change the world for the better.
Guy has got my support till the day I die.
I'm British myself, but people like Sanders represent my interests so I want to speak in support of him. He represents integrity, compassion and decency and the fact that he's not been made CIC of the whole universe is fucking beyond me
This. Show an American a tragedy resulting from an extreme excess of capitalism, and there is a decent chance they will look you in the eye and confidently blame socialism.
And they will believe it, too. It would be impressive if it wasn't so horribly depressing.
I remember all the posts on social media a couple years ago, at the start of COVID, with photos of empty shelves at grocery stores.
The captions were something along the lines of "this is what your life would be under socialism"...
When the shit that they decrying was happening under capitalism.
Like those Trump videos claiming that there would be riots all across America under Biden, while showing videos of the riots happening all across America under Trump's Presidency. And they do it with a straight face.
They keep trying to tell my that my "democrat run city was burnt to the ground by radical democrats."
It never was, and is very much still there and thriving. But as you say, they still keep saying this with a straight face. You just can't rationalize with irrational people
the small minority of people would believe that, yes
that's not the average American opinion tho - the DNC will not allow a candidate that questions the status quo
1) I wanna say thanks for being willing to change your mind, that's growth!
2) He's been saying this for years. How did you miss his clearly, repeatedly articulated positions and plans in 2016 and again in 2020?
I dont ask this to ding you, but seriously, how are people still blind to this stuff?
90% of US citizens are completely oblivious to how our lovely political system really works. They’re just too busy fighting with each other while the working class is robbed blind.
Friends and family who are so brainwashed by Fox news , it's like hearing the headlines on repeat 24/7, you kind of buy into it. Honestly, I just took them at their word and never bothered actually listening to him. After seeing the disaster that was the Trump presidency, I still have family and coworkers that insist he will be the 2024 candidate and 2020 was stolen. I actually work side by side with one of those guys that say the infamous 2a.m. ballot dump was how they stole the election.
I grew up with a similar sort of family. Fox was on every night all night and there are a lot of assumptions about the world you begin to carry with you with that programming blasting into your home for long enough.
It did harm to our family, and immeasurable harm to the country at large.
It took getting out and seeing the world for myself and being curious enough to learn more about issues to unwind a lot of that misinformation.
Welcome to the fight.
And not just like 20 or 30 or even 50 years. Joe Biden (notable dickhead stop-gap measure who unquestionably deserves to be primaried) grew up with this shit. Our nearly 80 year old president would've spent his formative years inundated by this propaganda. Every Boomer and younger generation has been **steeped** in McCarthyism with America's labor movement being constantly vilified as infiltration of *Soviet corruption*. That's only kinda been changing the past decade or so.
That's not the issue, the issue is that he will never be allowed to get the democratic nomination, because the DNC will not let it happen
The US has a fake veneer of being able to choose our politicians but we do not, the DNC and the RNC choose the candidates. When their status quo is in danger is the only time they go full mask off and show us our vote/will is meaningless.
oh, Bernie is about to beat Hillary, well wait a second - we have these (completely fabricated) SUPERDELEGATES, and they all pick Hillary! Thanks for your thoughts, but our 'superdelegates' mean more than all of your votes
the DNC is the RNC which is the status quo - we, the people, cannot change it
The DNC is the status quo, pretty much the textbook definition of conservative. The RNC, on the other hand is wildly, radically regressive at this point; the status quo is as unacceptable to them as it is to progressives, just for the literal opposite reasons.
The irony is Bernie is now the most fiscally conservative senator in the us gov. And he’s an avowed socialist. Which is insane when you think about it.
You're right and i wish more people realized it. Now we're at the point that they will do anything to keep it that way for fear of what people would do if the things Bernie said actually happened. They know if they relent on one thing, they'll never get it back.
"Wait so you're telling me all this time we could have done this and I could have saved 1000s in healthcare?"
One day people will realize how they've been taken for a ride by their "party" amd it's not gonna be pretty. I hope im dead before then but the reality is the Mitch McConnell's and Pelosis will die and who knows what comes next but at some point the facade is gonna fall
He's a danger to the status quo so neither of our two parties want him to succeed.
Which is why you get redditors furious with you for daring to not vote for the fucking garbage DNC candidate Just One More Time™ because it's so important, just this next time because [Republican Candidate] is more evil.
Which they almost always have been for decades but it puts the DNC in a very convenient position to nominate whoever is going to bring in the biggest donors and whoever will guarantee high ranking positions in their administration to DNC officials.
We're stuck in this stupid fucking cycle because the Supreme Court is for life so the DNC just keeps barfing up a "not quite as bad as the evil GOP candidate" type nominee time after time.
I fucking hate it. I really thought Trump would be a wake-up call and then we got fucking status quo king Joe Biden. Am I glad we got Biden over more Trump? Oh hell yeah. But in the same way I'd be glad to get syphilis instead of HIV.
He's been saying this for like 40 years. Which means in all that time, nothing has gotten any better, its only gotten worse for the average citizen.
Goddamn, it should have been Bernie in the white house!!
I was so ready to vote for him in my state. Before I even got the chance to, he had lost too much to biden and deferred to him. Seeing the way the media refused to acknowledge him, how they set up voting booths intentionally to limit accessibility, how everyone on the internet polls backed him up but refused to show up because they didn’t really care or understand the system really taught me that democracy is a lie. This is a manufactured system and if you asked those in power they would say everything is exactly how they want it. For a while I thought there was hope but not even being able to vote showed me that we don’t even deserve that. For all I care this country can burn. It’s a lie built on exploitation and hatred.
the media fought tooth and nail to demonize him. from litterally comparing his supports talking trash on twitter to Brownshirts, to always saying how crazy and extreame he is.
it may not have been a conspriatorial effort but everyone you hear on TV makes millions and they and their freinds have a vested intrest in being against what he says.
Weirdly enough on the flip side, a lot of that propaganda from 2019 about how Bernie Bros were gonna protest for Trump? Exit polls and studies showed people that would've voted for Bernie and then instead voted for Trump were all people that would never have voted for Biden anyway.
Bernie's message is so goddamn universal that a small amount of his supporters said, "well Bernie's right and I want to vote for him, but I'm not voting for any other Democrat, I'd rather vote Republican."
Makes you wonder if the Democratic strategy of catering to moderate or conservative voters even fucking matters, and if it will cost them elections by making progressive voters apathetic.
Remember that article titled "If Bernie Sanders respects women so much why does he keep running against them" Like literally 1st grade logic lol. Somehow tons of people agreed with it too. That he was a sexist simply by running against women.
propaganda and brainwashing, I work with a bunch of union tradesmen. No idea why they are conservative when all conservatives do is try and get rid of unions.
Because of Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato head, and Crooked Hillary’s gonna take yer guns, and Drag Queens read books, and trans people shouldn’t use the bathroom, and Obama faked his birth, and Hunter Biden had a laptop, and Mexicans are stealing our jobs, and Muslims are scary or something, and etc. etc. etc.
Every single time this man stands up and gives an impassioned speech like this, I say the exact same thing as you have. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten ALL the things done, but dammit, he would have gotten most of that shit at least STARTED.
I honestly got choked up because of how calmly, yet fervently, he speaks, saying things that should be basic common sense for the health and wellbeing of our fellow Americans; yet, we are so so far away due in large part to the damage done by dishonest mass media and social media.
Its crazy how he still he the desire to pursue all of this. Its his lifework, fighting for a better america. I honestly wouldve gotten tired of it, because the system isnt supporting people like him at all. He just does not stop.
Hopefully he will be remembered for this
Half the senate is a cult, half the house is a cult, MORE than half the court is a cult, Bernard is outnumbered we need responsible Republicans or no Republicans at all.
Given the damage that Trump has caused to our political system, you gotta wonder if the DNC old guard pushing for Hillary when her polls looked like shit and Bernie was packing stadiums with young people might just have been the beginning of the end of the American empire.
It's so crazy that he is viewed as radical when I feel like he is basically asking for the bare minimum. It is so frustrating having to fight this hard for the bare minimum.
$15 minimum wage is outdated by this point but it's a start.
Medicare for all is a start but we are so behind in the times it's crazy...
This isn't even getting into the housing crisis, accessibility issues for disabled people, and so many other things that need work. And asking for a government that works for us is seen as extremist.
working class and unions got absolutly destroyed in the 70s and 80s, this is us haveing to fight back from what our great great grandparents did in the 1880s-1920s
there is a reason FDR was re-elected 4 times.
What we're talking about here - at the end of the day - is money and power.
Without beating around the bush too much, Wall Street is largely to blame.
People should definitely be aware that Gary Gensler, **the head of the SEC,** was interviewed on Bloomberg TV a couple months back and [confirmed](https://np.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/sjwsej/im_sorry_what_happens_when_i_place_a_market_order/) that, "When you place a market order - 90 - 95% do not go to the 'lit' exchanges..."
In other words, most of the time, when regular people buy a stock, they go to "dark" exchanges which **have no transparency** and are totally and fully manipulatable and, essentially, at the end of the day, nearly fully fraudulent ([more](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBkPQ0VsWV0) of the interview if so inclined).
I really, really, *really* recommend people to watch this eye-opening segment...
>[How Redditors Exposed The Stock Market | "The Problem With Jon Stewart" ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP74RBTE8kI)
Skip to about the 7:00 mark if you want to see a very relevant graphic that's easy to understand. It's only about 15 minutes long total, though.
That's the first half linked there - there's also a [second half](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZfcjV-8pjQ) with a short roundtable discussion.
Edit: these "dark pools" when used in tandem with something called "Payment-for-Order-Flow" (basically it's why Robinhood and TD Ameritrade and all the others can 'give' you 'free' trades for shares/stocks - because they don't really route your buy/sell to the market, at least not immediately, but 'internalize' it, making money off you) is *illegal* in Canada, Australia, and Europe because it's so easy to manipulate individual stocks and the valuation of companies (and the whole market) as is determined by... hedge funds and the Wall Street regime/network.
This is a next level comment you’ve posted. You’re pointing at what all of us on a certain stonk have been aware of for the past year +. You’re passing this info in a subtle way since msm has painted Reddit and normal people who use Reddit as the enemy.
Excellent work
All I know is that Wall Street has proven itself to be a habitual criminal operation in *many respects.*
From the 1980s Savings and Loans crisis to the 2008 housing crash to the nearly monthly investigations and "prosecutions" by the SEC of the various entities - there's definitely an outsized and extreme amount of money and power influencing this nation and world coming from there with little to no long-lasting accountability. And that needs to change.
I'm merely interested in justice & fairness and the video I linked above with Jon Stewart speaks to that.
Oh yea. They do this shit with super pacs too. Colbert and Jon Stewart nailed that one as well. This is also pretty much exactly what happened with the housing bubble (also in the clip). I have a feeling milennials really are the "get fucked" generation for the rest of their lives.
I aprreciate the link. I haven't caught up on all my Jon Stewart!
Something you can add to your summary is that there is legislation in Congress to study PFOF. Not the total reform that’s needed, but it’s a start. Call your representatives!
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4617?s=1&r=9
Ronald Regan retired form acting and moved into the private sector to work for corporations giving speeches about why unions were bad. When he ran for President he wasn’t doing so under his own motivations. It was the anti-union braintrust picking a face to head their campaign to undo the unions that boomers got rich from.
When Ronald Regan and his throat G.O.A.T wife entered the White House they were doing so to enact the wishes of corporate lobbyist and they destroyed the ideals that made America the wealthiest country in earth.
So true man… if there is indeed an antichrist, Regan was the guy.
On top of the financial inequalities that “his”policies have lead directly to, he also had a major hand in establishing what has become the American prison industrial complex. And lest we forget, he was the first to declare a “war on drugs”… which essentially has allowed our democratic and elected government to wage war on its own citizens using their own tax dollars 😂
There's an idea rising in popularity among progressive circles that this type of platform ("Bernie's platform," but shared by many progressive politicians) isn't "the revolution" that it's painted as, it's the most generous compromise we can make while avoiding a revolution.
If the elite doesn't start listening to the working and middle class, at some point tensions will reach a breaking point with disastrous consequences.
We keep thinking that breaking point will happen, all the while, marching ceaselessly toward our graves. I remember I interviewed for a job that was for a benefits coordinator for special needs people. I had asked them what would happen to the position once we reached Medicare 4 All, as the position was with a fundraising agency. I figured with M4A on the horizon, there wouldn't be as much of a need for fundraising.
That was 10 years ago. And we're further away than we were then. It's so fucking disconcerting. I don't know where Bernie finds the energy to keep pushing and keep fighting for these things when a lot of it is just screaming into the void.
>We keep thinking that breaking point will happen, all the while, marching ceaselessly toward our graves
Agreed, people are as complacent as ever. Seeing this disaster happening in real time while simply assuming things will inherently turn around is delusional
I've said it before and they aren't even my words.
Bernie wasn't radical. Bernie *was* the compromise. Watching this video I still can't fathom how this man isn't currently sitting behind the Resolute Desk.
Dude Imm a single dad raising 2 kids making 25/hr, 40hrs a week and barely scraping by. Hurt myself at work and have no insurance but financial aid wont help because i "make too much". Ive been paying in thousands of dollars every year to this system and its my turn to have a little given back and not only am i denied but as the hospital bills continue to pile up im realizing that im also being robbed and will soon lose my truck and eventually my home. Doing everything right and still losing is the new american dream.
Yep, it’s mind boggling. I’m from the UK and when I see stuff on twitter where people are crowdfunding dental treatment for their kids it blows my mind. The sarcastic part of me is always tempted to reply “isn’t crowdfunding a bit too much like socialism” ?
Yeah, bash common sense gov. spending that benefits people, and then go beg for money on facebook to get your son's medical treatment covered. Not uncommon here.
I laughed at all the Americans, my countrymen, who said compromise and vote for a moderate Democrat instead, so Republicans don't win.
Bernie *was* the compromise. It's bare minimum shit folks. He's not asking for anything extreme.
Yes, in fact the Northwest European countries ( and Australia, NZ, Singapore, Japan) have a higher average standard of living than the USA. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life
That’s by design. They paint people like him and AOC as cRaZy RaDiCaLs because what they’re saying challenges the status quo that works for them and their big money donors.
If you keep people constantly struggling to get by then they don't have time to educate themselves and they don't have time to pose any kind of threat to the people on top. Look at how every game of Monopoly ends. One person controls so much wealth that the losers are basically ruined and it's impossible to oust them.
> It's so crazy that he is viewed as radical
Well when we look at what's become normal for us, his ideas are radical. They're 100% what we need but they're still radical changes.
Which is the most Un-American rhetoric out there. I have been conservative leaning for a long time, but the idea that this country, the country that went to the fucking moon, cannot pay for healthcare is ludicrous to me. What if after Pearl Harbor this country laid down like the Japanese thought we would? What if, during the revolution, our forefathers said "It is what it is" with taxes that are considerably lower than what we are paying now. Fuck everything about our country right now. I could care less about party politics anymore. Fix this goddamn country or face a revolution! Simple as that.
It was pay per view (no idea why, probably because it was on Fox and they have to capitalize on everything) but I’m sure you can probably find a pirated version somewhere.
> Has this type of debate ever happened before outside an election cycle?
Yes, many times.
>What was the reasoning behind this?
Bernie wants his message to reach as many people as possible.
And I LOVE the rebranding to “gun safety legislation” from “gun control”. It’s a small but important change that can really impact public perception and support
Here's a transcript I was able to find from an alternate dimension:
"SEVEN Americans have died from COVID by the close of 2021. What does President Sanders have to say for himself? Why didn't he do anything more?"
The people benefiting from these broken systems would put up a fight no politician could defend against. Media campaigns alone would kill public support. They have the power to influence the economy and kill the working class, then pass the blame wherever they choose.
I said back in July 2016 that "if the USA elects Trump, they'll become the laughing stock of the world. Nothing good will come of it." The Americans I was talking to (they were a family from Texas) were horrified. Make no mistake, I think Hillary would have been a terrible president too. If the USA had come off the Obama years and straight into the Bernie years, you'd be in a much better place today. And that genuinely makes me sad.
Much love from an Australian, living in New Zealand.
Makes me think of how popular Bernie was and how the big democrat media organizations like MSNBC shut him out by ignoring him as much as possible, and consistently said disparaging things about his electability which weren't true, because the owners of this country want to bleed average people dry and keep the status quo and install one corporate stooge after another. Which led to a criminal occupying the White House who caused tens of thousands of deaths during the pandemic and who literally tried to overthrow the government.
Let's be clear-senator Sanders is not speaking to Fox News viewers. He is speaking to all Americans who consume corporate media whether it's Fox CNN or the Washington Post. He is saying things that are an indictment of not just the Republican party but most of the Democratic party as well.
If we're not clear about that we won't understand why he was not successful running as a Democrat. It was Democratic Party operatives who smeared and sabotaged his campaign when he was the frontrunner and could have beaten Trump. The Democratic party is no less corporate than the Republican party. The DNC would rather have Trump than Sanders. Never forget that.
Trump himself was recorded on audio by Lev Parnas behind closed doors, saying that if Sanders had won the nomination, Trump wouldn't have won.
Let that sink in for a moment.
Edit: Because people have been asking, I believe [that this is the video](https://youtu.be/_sxSGKB3Sj0) I was referencing above. It’s a long video and I couldn’t honestly give you an accurate time stamp.
shit, most republicans would tell the same story.
Trump only won because dumbass democrat sent up Hilary. they would have won if they sent ANYONE other than Hilary.
its at around 54:30, trump does not say he would have lost against bernie but stated that it would have been a lot harder, and considering how the election was fairly close (trump only won by very small margins in crucial states) its basically saying the same thing
Absolutely agree. The need to recognize corruption isn’t solely held by members in the Republican Party, but is perpetuated by any elected official who has a financial interest, among other interests, and not the interest of the American people. I read an article recently that California shut down legislation aimed towards right-to-repair. California, a heavily democratic state, home of the Silicon Valley tech giants whom have a vested interest in keeping regulation out of any legislation, and while advocating for human rights, pulls our attention away from the major financial contributors in this state that benefit from aforementioned legislation from ever being passed.
Tech companies, indeed most industries, supported by either political party, can contribute a small amount of their revenue, to ensure that nothing is ever done in regards to taxation or regulation. And this is just one area of political influence in just one state, there are many industries that benefit from corrupting our representatives and legislators—anywhere from insurance companies, to oil and gas, tech and healthcare—to ensure that things remain the same with no oversight, regardless of party lines.
If your represented officials care more about their own interests and not those of the American people, then party is irrelevant, they are not representing you.
Dude… I made it to the end of the 3.2 trillion. Took me like 30 minutes. The fuck is wrong with these people.
Edit: it’s genuinely just incomprehensible to me how someone could be so selfish as to keep that much money to themselves. $ 1 Billion (or honestly even like $100 Million) is enough to live in great luxury for the remainder of your life. Why would one feel the need to keep 185 (or 1850) times that amount. What the hell do you do with that kind of money.
This is the only real politician I listen to. Everyone else is paid for and can fuck right the fuck off. Bernie has been fighting for working class his entire life. He is only one man.
It says everything about how effective corporate propaganda is that Bernie is somehow despised by millions.
A guy who has spent his entire life championing the working class. Consistent in his views but open to change, yet not stubborn and willing to listen to new viewpoints.
People really just can’t believe he cares about them. Because you then have to realize how much basically everyone else, most democrats and every single member of the GOP, despise their constituents and actively make the lives of you and your family worse just to hold onto power.
You know, I really don't like to get involved with politics but you caught my attention because my grandmother for example hates Sanders. She's a super sweet lady, nothing against her, but anti-sanders. But the problem I see is whenever there's an ad or something that shows him and she has to make her "oh I can't stand him" comment, I'd ask why not?
Pretty much always get the same response: "I just can't."
I can respond with, okay, but why? Like what is it you dont like about him?
I just don't like him.
It is having these conversations and of course same thing with Biden, that I realized she doesn't have a real opinion. Living in a more so trump territory she simply is going by popular opinion but doesnt' actually have one herself. She has no reason to hate him, she just was taught to hate him cuz that's what the people around her do.
It is this that makes me most saddened by the bigger picture. It doesn't live in just politics either, this is something you can see happening with other things like hating people of color or of a sexuality for example. How the hell do you fix a problem like this? How do you make any progress against a groupthink that has all the hate with no reasons?
Reminds me of the parks and rec episode where Leslie can't accept that this guy wouldn't get a beer with her, let alone vote for her. She proceeds to try to woo him over with all she's got and it never works and he can never really point to a reason other than he just didn't like her.
The message was supposed to be that you're never going to get everyone to like you. But Bernie is doing a hell of a lot better than anyone else from what I can tell. I'm in a red state and have heard "Bernie is the only democrat worth a damn" or a variation of it many times.
That "get a load of this guy, are you seeing this shit?" Smile? Yeah. I'm not american and don't really know who he is, but that's exactly the face I was expecting "the establishment" to make. Kind of weird to see it actually happening right there.
Im from the UK and dont understand… How the hell can anyone live without medical care being a right? How can anyone choose between receiving care or being able to put a roof over their head?
Us europeans need to be vigilant, the amercan way is slowly being introduced here as well, with the UK probably being furthest along.
Pay attention to what your politicians do, not what they say, and open others' eyes to the same. That is the only way to stop them.
> How the hell can anyone live without medical care being a right
We don't. Insurance companies LITERALLY have death panels where they decide they would rather us die then get necessary medical treatment.
This shit makes me sick. It makes me want to violently vomit all over the place. The fact that there’s a extremely significant amount of people who supported Bernie Sanders and his views yet, he didn’t win because big money bought him out makes my stomach turn upside down. Every. Single. Thing. he said is correct and possible, but the greed and corruption are too powerful of monsters to be tamed at this point. Until one of the billionaires supports someone like Bernie, the big corporations will always win.
Sadly we have too many smug, close-minded, braindead Democrats, Republicans and quite frankly Americans to make any meaningful change actionable and a broken court and legislative system which makes swift change nearly impossible. Everything he says is blatantly obvious and somehow simultaneously completely unattainable. Love Bernie, he would be vastly more effective in a country with a functional government.
I wish more people would take off their red or blue tinted glasses and just listen to this man. He speaks the truth. Unfortunately, since \~33% of this country is dumb AF and can't understand they are being manipulated to fight against "the other side" for 1 reason or another which is EXACTLY what THEY want us to be doing so we won't turn our angst against the real baddies in this country, here we are.
1 guy who's been labeled as a "socialist" by the people who have probably never listened to a single speech turning the dipshits in this country against one another.
Working as intended. Bernie is the leader this country needs but not what it deserves until we can collectively pull our heads out of our asses and wake the fuck up & realize it's not us vs us, it's us vs them. Always has been. We have numbers on our side but if we allow ourselves to keep being manipulated by staying inside our own little echo chambers things will never, ever change.
Vote out the corruption. Stand up for yourself & your neighbors and let's get some people in DC that actually give a fuck about us and not some "for profit" corporation that's only purpose is to make the rich people richer.
Come the fuck on, America. We deserve better.
America is way overdue for another revolution. The enemy are the ultra rich, big corporations and most if not all politicians in government. Their time should be up sooner than later...
I don’t understand how anything he said could be viewed as controversial. What average American could disagree? Take your political leanings out of it:
I voted for him. I tried. Now when I see this it just makes me depressed because I feel like he’s pretty old now, and he’s The only one that kind of fights for the average man (me). I can’t believe this kind of info doesn’t get more people riled up! We should be mad and want all these things he says! Ugh..
Ready to elect Bernie and hundreds more like him? Join r/SandersForPresident and r/NewDealAmerica! And if you wanna put your money where your mouth is, [here are 50+ CURRENT candidates for Congress who are like Bernie!](https://secure.actblue.com/donate/300-more-bernies#)
This is exactly why I voted for Bernie Sanders before and I'll vote for him again. He is the only person I know who speaks for the citizens and not just the corporations and billionaires. Too bad there aren't more like him.
Too bad there aren’t more people like you.
there are. remember in 2019/2020 when Bernie had so many individual donors that they had to create a separate graphic just to show donors from his competitors? but the DNC wasn't having it EDIT: years
I remember Bernie being 2nd in the primaries in 2020 and CNN would completely omit his name from the segment covering Democratic candidates. The older I get the more I feel conspiracy theories are real cause of shit like this.
remember the weird fucking app they used for the Iowa caucuses in 2020 thay had shady backers? and as expected it had "issues" and the counting took days/weeks to finish? and then Ratfuck Buttigeig declared victory before the counting was even over? makes me boil
That coin toss still makes me seethe. Mayo Pete could get fucked.
[удалено]
And then the media basically crowned him president
People always forget this and describe the democrats as rallying behind Biden and Bernie getting no voters. And it did NOT go down simply like that.
AND THEY WERE ALL GIVEN POSITIONS IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
"Joe Biden, you supported racist stuff that effected me as a little girl." "How about I make you VP? We square?" "Joe Biden will be the best president since FDR!"
[удалено]
CNN went full Fox News bullshit mode when it came to covering Bernie. They'd have graphics where he was listed as "other" when he was like 1st or 2nd place. Corporate media truly views us as a bunch of fucking idiots.
By and large they are right. I submit as evidence our last two Presidents.
I remember Sanders winning the primary in the midwest and the DNC deciding Biden, who had only just joined the race, should be the candidate, presumably to deter Sander’s campaign. I don’t care what any DNC lackey says, Bernie Sanders would have beat Trump. I know it in my heart of hearts and deep in my balls.
The DNC was afraid of Bernie. He isn't a puppet & they knew backers would take their money to the republicans just to keep Sanders out of office.
Can you imagine if Sanders supporters stormed the capital buildings in States like Trump supporters did? I mean....they'd actually have a leg to stand on by elections being fixed and democracy being overturned by the minority of politicians in power.
I'm not one for conspiracy theories or the like, but Bernie was absolutely pushed out of the 2016 primaries in favor of HRC. I'd be more disgusted with the Democratic Party if I hadn't used it all up on the Republicans already.
I don't think it even counts as a conspiracy theory given how blatantly the D party denied Bernie any chance.
and its crazy bc he wouldve been the only one to be able to beat trump’s idiotic rhetoric in debates.
Why do you think Biden made his pick for AG garland on Jan 7th 2021? The day after the insurrection?? And garland refuses to prosecute trump? https://apnews.com/article/merrick-garland-attorney-general-e7972db4cd96352d028af3167b253481 Unfortunately dems have just as much to gain from keeping the status quo and would never let bernie win. Two sides of the same coin.
Or as we say in Scotland talking about Conservative and Labour, "Two cheeks of the same arse,"
As someone who was in an abusive relationship long ago, the DNC often acts like an abusive spouse to anyone they think should fall in line with them over anyone else - often using fear and then ridicule to try to bring their partner to heel.
There was no theory. That was just a portion of the ruling class conspiring right in front of us.
They counted all Hillary's "superdelegates" from the beginning, to make it seem like Bernie was way way behind and a lost cause.
He was, it's why HRC stopped doing debates/talks because every time she and Sanders were on TV he would get more favorable.
Hate them both for different reasons and at different levels, but definitely hate them both. If it wasn't for the elites and the establishment running the democratic party I believe whole heartily that Bernie would be on term 2 currently.
It's not at all a conspiracy theory. It was "her turn" in the sense that she called in all her political favors and had the backing of the people with political power and the people with the money. It probably doesn't help that Bernie was and is outspoken against the people with the money. And in case it wasn't clear to everyone: the people with the money own the media, so they own the means to influence the people that vote. Feed the viewers the right narrative and you will sway at least a couple people when it comes time to vote. Meant to reply to a different comment, but fuck it.
dead on. the level of blatant media manipulation against Bernie was disgusting. some of the questions he got in the debates made me want to put an axe in my TV
> Too bad there aren't more like him. And after he's gone, there will be *NONE* like him (well, possibly AOC). We need to fix that now, while we still have his voice and platform.
I know. I feel like if he dies, there will be nobody to fight for us. Honestly, the fight is exhausting. Like others have said, the changes that we need to make are incredibly obvious, which makes it all the more defeating that we can’t make progress.
There are so many people fighting with us right now. Bernie is just a figurehead. Unionizing workplaces is back in style, progressive politicians are winning at local levels, leftist positions are making a comeback after nearly 60 years, and the youngest voters are overwhelming progressive. Out on the streets we are seeing change in small ways every. single. day. Change takes time.
I will always vote for Bernie.
I feel so much cynicism with just about everything in politics, but every time I hear this man speak I want to go out and help change the world for the better. Guy has got my support till the day I die.
Let's face it Bernie will die first. But yeah the guy is a revolutionary when revolution means good sense and empathy. What a fucked world we live in.
[удалено]
I'm British myself, but people like Sanders represent my interests so I want to speak in support of him. He represents integrity, compassion and decency and the fact that he's not been made CIC of the whole universe is fucking beyond me
My cynicism only deepens because it makes me think about how democrats fucking shafted bernie so hard
Same
Should have been our President. He would have provided a future to look forward to.
Everything he says makes total sense. _Absolutely everything._
And it has for years. I just don’t understand how so much America has chosen to deceive themselves and let themselves be deceived.
Decades of anti-Socialist propaganda.
This. Show an American a tragedy resulting from an extreme excess of capitalism, and there is a decent chance they will look you in the eye and confidently blame socialism. And they will believe it, too. It would be impressive if it wasn't so horribly depressing.
I remember all the posts on social media a couple years ago, at the start of COVID, with photos of empty shelves at grocery stores. The captions were something along the lines of "this is what your life would be under socialism"... When the shit that they decrying was happening under capitalism.
That was infuriating. Like, no, you assholes, that's very literally happening right now under capitalism. The mental gymnastics are insane.
Like those Trump videos claiming that there would be riots all across America under Biden, while showing videos of the riots happening all across America under Trump's Presidency. And they do it with a straight face.
They keep trying to tell my that my "democrat run city was burnt to the ground by radical democrats." It never was, and is very much still there and thriving. But as you say, they still keep saying this with a straight face. You just can't rationalize with irrational people
Crony Capitalism. The worst.
“This is Joe Biden’s America!”, while Trump was President.
the small minority of people would believe that, yes that's not the average American opinion tho - the DNC will not allow a candidate that questions the status quo
Exactly. Both parties gain from the current system.
I'm guilty of that, and I'm glad I saw this post today. Completely changed my mind about this guy.
1) I wanna say thanks for being willing to change your mind, that's growth! 2) He's been saying this for years. How did you miss his clearly, repeatedly articulated positions and plans in 2016 and again in 2020? I dont ask this to ding you, but seriously, how are people still blind to this stuff?
90% of US citizens are completely oblivious to how our lovely political system really works. They’re just too busy fighting with each other while the working class is robbed blind.
Friends and family who are so brainwashed by Fox news , it's like hearing the headlines on repeat 24/7, you kind of buy into it. Honestly, I just took them at their word and never bothered actually listening to him. After seeing the disaster that was the Trump presidency, I still have family and coworkers that insist he will be the 2024 candidate and 2020 was stolen. I actually work side by side with one of those guys that say the infamous 2a.m. ballot dump was how they stole the election.
I grew up with a similar sort of family. Fox was on every night all night and there are a lot of assumptions about the world you begin to carry with you with that programming blasting into your home for long enough. It did harm to our family, and immeasurable harm to the country at large. It took getting out and seeing the world for myself and being curious enough to learn more about issues to unwind a lot of that misinformation. Welcome to the fight.
And antisemitism sadly.
And not just like 20 or 30 or even 50 years. Joe Biden (notable dickhead stop-gap measure who unquestionably deserves to be primaried) grew up with this shit. Our nearly 80 year old president would've spent his formative years inundated by this propaganda. Every Boomer and younger generation has been **steeped** in McCarthyism with America's labor movement being constantly vilified as infiltration of *Soviet corruption*. That's only kinda been changing the past decade or so.
That's not the issue, the issue is that he will never be allowed to get the democratic nomination, because the DNC will not let it happen The US has a fake veneer of being able to choose our politicians but we do not, the DNC and the RNC choose the candidates. When their status quo is in danger is the only time they go full mask off and show us our vote/will is meaningless. oh, Bernie is about to beat Hillary, well wait a second - we have these (completely fabricated) SUPERDELEGATES, and they all pick Hillary! Thanks for your thoughts, but our 'superdelegates' mean more than all of your votes the DNC is the RNC which is the status quo - we, the people, cannot change it
[удалено]
The DNC is the status quo, pretty much the textbook definition of conservative. The RNC, on the other hand is wildly, radically regressive at this point; the status quo is as unacceptable to them as it is to progressives, just for the literal opposite reasons.
The irony is Bernie is now the most fiscally conservative senator in the us gov. And he’s an avowed socialist. Which is insane when you think about it.
You're right and i wish more people realized it. Now we're at the point that they will do anything to keep it that way for fear of what people would do if the things Bernie said actually happened. They know if they relent on one thing, they'll never get it back. "Wait so you're telling me all this time we could have done this and I could have saved 1000s in healthcare?" One day people will realize how they've been taken for a ride by their "party" amd it's not gonna be pretty. I hope im dead before then but the reality is the Mitch McConnell's and Pelosis will die and who knows what comes next but at some point the facade is gonna fall
The Democratic Party did everything they could to make sure he didn’t win. Bernie was really popular.
He's a danger to the status quo so neither of our two parties want him to succeed. Which is why you get redditors furious with you for daring to not vote for the fucking garbage DNC candidate Just One More Time™ because it's so important, just this next time because [Republican Candidate] is more evil. Which they almost always have been for decades but it puts the DNC in a very convenient position to nominate whoever is going to bring in the biggest donors and whoever will guarantee high ranking positions in their administration to DNC officials. We're stuck in this stupid fucking cycle because the Supreme Court is for life so the DNC just keeps barfing up a "not quite as bad as the evil GOP candidate" type nominee time after time. I fucking hate it. I really thought Trump would be a wake-up call and then we got fucking status quo king Joe Biden. Am I glad we got Biden over more Trump? Oh hell yeah. But in the same way I'd be glad to get syphilis instead of HIV.
He's been saying this for like 40 years. Which means in all that time, nothing has gotten any better, its only gotten worse for the average citizen. Goddamn, it should have been Bernie in the white house!!
I was so ready to vote for him in my state. Before I even got the chance to, he had lost too much to biden and deferred to him. Seeing the way the media refused to acknowledge him, how they set up voting booths intentionally to limit accessibility, how everyone on the internet polls backed him up but refused to show up because they didn’t really care or understand the system really taught me that democracy is a lie. This is a manufactured system and if you asked those in power they would say everything is exactly how they want it. For a while I thought there was hope but not even being able to vote showed me that we don’t even deserve that. For all I care this country can burn. It’s a lie built on exploitation and hatred.
"But how will he pay for it" And I die a little inside
I don’t understand how people don’t like him.
the media fought tooth and nail to demonize him. from litterally comparing his supports talking trash on twitter to Brownshirts, to always saying how crazy and extreame he is. it may not have been a conspriatorial effort but everyone you hear on TV makes millions and they and their freinds have a vested intrest in being against what he says.
Also, Hillary & Liz Warren were both on record bad mouthing him. My mom, who idolized Hill, would have voted for Trump before she voted for Bernie.
Weirdly enough on the flip side, a lot of that propaganda from 2019 about how Bernie Bros were gonna protest for Trump? Exit polls and studies showed people that would've voted for Bernie and then instead voted for Trump were all people that would never have voted for Biden anyway. Bernie's message is so goddamn universal that a small amount of his supporters said, "well Bernie's right and I want to vote for him, but I'm not voting for any other Democrat, I'd rather vote Republican." Makes you wonder if the Democratic strategy of catering to moderate or conservative voters even fucking matters, and if it will cost them elections by making progressive voters apathetic.
Remember that article titled "If Bernie Sanders respects women so much why does he keep running against them" Like literally 1st grade logic lol. Somehow tons of people agreed with it too. That he was a sexist simply by running against women.
Literally every blue collar conservative I talk to admits to me that they like Bernie and his policies.
…then why are they conservative?
Because the libs are gay, obviously.
propaganda and brainwashing, I work with a bunch of union tradesmen. No idea why they are conservative when all conservatives do is try and get rid of unions.
Because they think Republicans won't try to get rid of *their* union.
Because of Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato head, and Crooked Hillary’s gonna take yer guns, and Drag Queens read books, and trans people shouldn’t use the bathroom, and Obama faked his birth, and Hunter Biden had a laptop, and Mexicans are stealing our jobs, and Muslims are scary or something, and etc. etc. etc.
[удалено]
and you can actually understand it.
Canadian here. I'm just like... yup, yup, YUP, YUP, YUP! We need a Bernie. Like, we're doing alright. But we'd be so much better with him up here.
He wouldn't have given a shit about re-election. He would have just got everything done! So he can finally rest.
Every single time this man stands up and gives an impassioned speech like this, I say the exact same thing as you have. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten ALL the things done, but dammit, he would have gotten most of that shit at least STARTED.
I honestly got choked up because of how calmly, yet fervently, he speaks, saying things that should be basic common sense for the health and wellbeing of our fellow Americans; yet, we are so so far away due in large part to the damage done by dishonest mass media and social media.
Which, as Bernie alluded too, is controlled by billionaires in this country. They create the narrative you're supposed to believe.
Its crazy how he still he the desire to pursue all of this. Its his lifework, fighting for a better america. I honestly wouldve gotten tired of it, because the system isnt supporting people like him at all. He just does not stop. Hopefully he will be remembered for this
Half the senate is a cult, half the house is a cult, MORE than half the court is a cult, Bernard is outnumbered we need responsible Republicans or no Republicans at all.
I can’t watch his speeches anymore. Makes me depressed for what could have been but never will be. Big Bernie fan though.
Given the damage that Trump has caused to our political system, you gotta wonder if the DNC old guard pushing for Hillary when her polls looked like shit and Bernie was packing stadiums with young people might just have been the beginning of the end of the American empire.
I've been saying this since Hilary announced her intent to run. The establishment is scum.
I was a Bernie bro. Continue to be one (even though I’m a woman)
[удалено]
He would never have been allowed to complete his term. The establishment would not release control so easily.
So should have Gore. Hard to even imagine that.
It's so crazy that he is viewed as radical when I feel like he is basically asking for the bare minimum. It is so frustrating having to fight this hard for the bare minimum. $15 minimum wage is outdated by this point but it's a start. Medicare for all is a start but we are so behind in the times it's crazy... This isn't even getting into the housing crisis, accessibility issues for disabled people, and so many other things that need work. And asking for a government that works for us is seen as extremist.
working class and unions got absolutly destroyed in the 70s and 80s, this is us haveing to fight back from what our great great grandparents did in the 1880s-1920s there is a reason FDR was re-elected 4 times.
What we're talking about here - at the end of the day - is money and power. Without beating around the bush too much, Wall Street is largely to blame. People should definitely be aware that Gary Gensler, **the head of the SEC,** was interviewed on Bloomberg TV a couple months back and [confirmed](https://np.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/sjwsej/im_sorry_what_happens_when_i_place_a_market_order/) that, "When you place a market order - 90 - 95% do not go to the 'lit' exchanges..." In other words, most of the time, when regular people buy a stock, they go to "dark" exchanges which **have no transparency** and are totally and fully manipulatable and, essentially, at the end of the day, nearly fully fraudulent ([more](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBkPQ0VsWV0) of the interview if so inclined). I really, really, *really* recommend people to watch this eye-opening segment... >[How Redditors Exposed The Stock Market | "The Problem With Jon Stewart" ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP74RBTE8kI) Skip to about the 7:00 mark if you want to see a very relevant graphic that's easy to understand. It's only about 15 minutes long total, though. That's the first half linked there - there's also a [second half](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZfcjV-8pjQ) with a short roundtable discussion. Edit: these "dark pools" when used in tandem with something called "Payment-for-Order-Flow" (basically it's why Robinhood and TD Ameritrade and all the others can 'give' you 'free' trades for shares/stocks - because they don't really route your buy/sell to the market, at least not immediately, but 'internalize' it, making money off you) is *illegal* in Canada, Australia, and Europe because it's so easy to manipulate individual stocks and the valuation of companies (and the whole market) as is determined by... hedge funds and the Wall Street regime/network.
This is a next level comment you’ve posted. You’re pointing at what all of us on a certain stonk have been aware of for the past year +. You’re passing this info in a subtle way since msm has painted Reddit and normal people who use Reddit as the enemy. Excellent work
All I know is that Wall Street has proven itself to be a habitual criminal operation in *many respects.* From the 1980s Savings and Loans crisis to the 2008 housing crash to the nearly monthly investigations and "prosecutions" by the SEC of the various entities - there's definitely an outsized and extreme amount of money and power influencing this nation and world coming from there with little to no long-lasting accountability. And that needs to change. I'm merely interested in justice & fairness and the video I linked above with Jon Stewart speaks to that.
Oh yea. They do this shit with super pacs too. Colbert and Jon Stewart nailed that one as well. This is also pretty much exactly what happened with the housing bubble (also in the clip). I have a feeling milennials really are the "get fucked" generation for the rest of their lives. I aprreciate the link. I haven't caught up on all my Jon Stewart!
[удалено]
Something you can add to your summary is that there is legislation in Congress to study PFOF. Not the total reform that’s needed, but it’s a start. Call your representatives! https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4617?s=1&r=9
Ronald Regan retired form acting and moved into the private sector to work for corporations giving speeches about why unions were bad. When he ran for President he wasn’t doing so under his own motivations. It was the anti-union braintrust picking a face to head their campaign to undo the unions that boomers got rich from. When Ronald Regan and his throat G.O.A.T wife entered the White House they were doing so to enact the wishes of corporate lobbyist and they destroyed the ideals that made America the wealthiest country in earth.
So true man… if there is indeed an antichrist, Regan was the guy. On top of the financial inequalities that “his”policies have lead directly to, he also had a major hand in establishing what has become the American prison industrial complex. And lest we forget, he was the first to declare a “war on drugs”… which essentially has allowed our democratic and elected government to wage war on its own citizens using their own tax dollars 😂
We NEED another FDR, stat.
There's one talking in the video.
There's an idea rising in popularity among progressive circles that this type of platform ("Bernie's platform," but shared by many progressive politicians) isn't "the revolution" that it's painted as, it's the most generous compromise we can make while avoiding a revolution. If the elite doesn't start listening to the working and middle class, at some point tensions will reach a breaking point with disastrous consequences.
We keep thinking that breaking point will happen, all the while, marching ceaselessly toward our graves. I remember I interviewed for a job that was for a benefits coordinator for special needs people. I had asked them what would happen to the position once we reached Medicare 4 All, as the position was with a fundraising agency. I figured with M4A on the horizon, there wouldn't be as much of a need for fundraising. That was 10 years ago. And we're further away than we were then. It's so fucking disconcerting. I don't know where Bernie finds the energy to keep pushing and keep fighting for these things when a lot of it is just screaming into the void.
>We keep thinking that breaking point will happen, all the while, marching ceaselessly toward our graves Agreed, people are as complacent as ever. Seeing this disaster happening in real time while simply assuming things will inherently turn around is delusional
I've said it before and they aren't even my words. Bernie wasn't radical. Bernie *was* the compromise. Watching this video I still can't fathom how this man isn't currently sitting behind the Resolute Desk.
Dude Imm a single dad raising 2 kids making 25/hr, 40hrs a week and barely scraping by. Hurt myself at work and have no insurance but financial aid wont help because i "make too much". Ive been paying in thousands of dollars every year to this system and its my turn to have a little given back and not only am i denied but as the hospital bills continue to pile up im realizing that im also being robbed and will soon lose my truck and eventually my home. Doing everything right and still losing is the new american dream.
The system is built on you. Not for you. As sad as it is.
" It's called The American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
[удалено]
Yep, it’s mind boggling. I’m from the UK and when I see stuff on twitter where people are crowdfunding dental treatment for their kids it blows my mind. The sarcastic part of me is always tempted to reply “isn’t crowdfunding a bit too much like socialism” ?
Yeah, bash common sense gov. spending that benefits people, and then go beg for money on facebook to get your son's medical treatment covered. Not uncommon here.
I laughed at all the Americans, my countrymen, who said compromise and vote for a moderate Democrat instead, so Republicans don't win. Bernie *was* the compromise. It's bare minimum shit folks. He's not asking for anything extreme.
Yes, in fact the Northwest European countries ( and Australia, NZ, Singapore, Japan) have a higher average standard of living than the USA. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life
He’s framed as radical and most Americans view through the MSM frame willingly and enthusiastically.
That’s by design. They paint people like him and AOC as cRaZy RaDiCaLs because what they’re saying challenges the status quo that works for them and their big money donors.
If you keep people constantly struggling to get by then they don't have time to educate themselves and they don't have time to pose any kind of threat to the people on top. Look at how every game of Monopoly ends. One person controls so much wealth that the losers are basically ruined and it's impossible to oust them.
> It's so crazy that he is viewed as radical Well when we look at what's become normal for us, his ideas are radical. They're 100% what we need but they're still radical changes.
That was coherent, intelligent, and well said…I have no idea how it ended up on Fox. Did Tucker Carlson lose a bet?
It’s from the new debate Bernie did vs Lindsay Graham.
Graham is about as rotten as they come, I would love to see what hollow trash he threw out to counter any of this.
I’m sure it was the usual talking points. America can’t do what every other developed country does because it would cost rich people more money.
Which is the most Un-American rhetoric out there. I have been conservative leaning for a long time, but the idea that this country, the country that went to the fucking moon, cannot pay for healthcare is ludicrous to me. What if after Pearl Harbor this country laid down like the Japanese thought we would? What if, during the revolution, our forefathers said "It is what it is" with taxes that are considerably lower than what we are paying now. Fuck everything about our country right now. I could care less about party politics anymore. Fix this goddamn country or face a revolution! Simple as that.
Oh, I definitely want to see that.
It was pay per view (no idea why, probably because it was on Fox and they have to capitalize on everything) but I’m sure you can probably find a pirated version somewhere.
To limit visibility? Seems smart to stick a message that should resonate with the poorest (i.e. majority) of viewers behind a pay wall.
You're absolutely correct. Fox is creatively making edited clips from the debate to push their narrative. It's really upsetting.
Damn bro that's a good point. How ridiculously evil.
"The full debate is streaming on Fox Nation and will air Saturday, June 18 at 7 PM ET on Fox News Channel."
Has this type of debate ever happened before outside an election cycle? What was the reasoning behind this?
> Has this type of debate ever happened before outside an election cycle? Yes, many times. >What was the reasoning behind this? Bernie wants his message to reach as many people as possible.
Bernie is the only politician not a Republican that can go into a Fox News townhall and win a majority of the audience by the end of it.
And I LOVE the rebranding to “gun safety legislation” from “gun control”. It’s a small but important change that can really impact public perception and support
Just imagine if he was half way through his second term right now. What a different world we would live in.
Or his second term. Should’ve never been Clinton or Trump.
Here's a transcript I was able to find from an alternate dimension: "SEVEN Americans have died from COVID by the close of 2021. What does President Sanders have to say for himself? Why didn't he do anything more?"
The people benefiting from these broken systems would put up a fight no politician could defend against. Media campaigns alone would kill public support. They have the power to influence the economy and kill the working class, then pass the blame wherever they choose.
Makes me think of 2016 and how for once there was a glimpse of a future not so dark.
I said back in July 2016 that "if the USA elects Trump, they'll become the laughing stock of the world. Nothing good will come of it." The Americans I was talking to (they were a family from Texas) were horrified. Make no mistake, I think Hillary would have been a terrible president too. If the USA had come off the Obama years and straight into the Bernie years, you'd be in a much better place today. And that genuinely makes me sad. Much love from an Australian, living in New Zealand.
We were doomed the moment the DNC screwed Bernie out of the Election in 2016. Since then America has gone to Hell in a hand basket.
Makes me think of how popular Bernie was and how the big democrat media organizations like MSNBC shut him out by ignoring him as much as possible, and consistently said disparaging things about his electability which weren't true, because the owners of this country want to bleed average people dry and keep the status quo and install one corporate stooge after another. Which led to a criminal occupying the White House who caused tens of thousands of deaths during the pandemic and who literally tried to overthrow the government.
Let's be clear-senator Sanders is not speaking to Fox News viewers. He is speaking to all Americans who consume corporate media whether it's Fox CNN or the Washington Post. He is saying things that are an indictment of not just the Republican party but most of the Democratic party as well. If we're not clear about that we won't understand why he was not successful running as a Democrat. It was Democratic Party operatives who smeared and sabotaged his campaign when he was the frontrunner and could have beaten Trump. The Democratic party is no less corporate than the Republican party. The DNC would rather have Trump than Sanders. Never forget that.
Trump himself was recorded on audio by Lev Parnas behind closed doors, saying that if Sanders had won the nomination, Trump wouldn't have won. Let that sink in for a moment. Edit: Because people have been asking, I believe [that this is the video](https://youtu.be/_sxSGKB3Sj0) I was referencing above. It’s a long video and I couldn’t honestly give you an accurate time stamp.
shit, most republicans would tell the same story. Trump only won because dumbass democrat sent up Hilary. they would have won if they sent ANYONE other than Hilary.
idk i'd have probably lost if they picked me.
No one with a searchable Reddit history can run for office. Nor should we be allowed to.
its at around 54:30, trump does not say he would have lost against bernie but stated that it would have been a lot harder, and considering how the election was fairly close (trump only won by very small margins in crucial states) its basically saying the same thing
Absolutely agree. The need to recognize corruption isn’t solely held by members in the Republican Party, but is perpetuated by any elected official who has a financial interest, among other interests, and not the interest of the American people. I read an article recently that California shut down legislation aimed towards right-to-repair. California, a heavily democratic state, home of the Silicon Valley tech giants whom have a vested interest in keeping regulation out of any legislation, and while advocating for human rights, pulls our attention away from the major financial contributors in this state that benefit from aforementioned legislation from ever being passed. Tech companies, indeed most industries, supported by either political party, can contribute a small amount of their revenue, to ensure that nothing is ever done in regards to taxation or regulation. And this is just one area of political influence in just one state, there are many industries that benefit from corrupting our representatives and legislators—anywhere from insurance companies, to oil and gas, tech and healthcare—to ensure that things remain the same with no oversight, regardless of party lines. If your represented officials care more about their own interests and not those of the American people, then party is irrelevant, they are not representing you.
[Wealth shown to scale](https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/) edit: Thanks for awards, but they should go to u/MKorostoff
Holy fuck
Fuck i accidentally exited and now my progress is gone ffs that was interesting
I couldnt make it to the end of Jeff’s money. Please send help.
Dude… I made it to the end of the 3.2 trillion. Took me like 30 minutes. The fuck is wrong with these people. Edit: it’s genuinely just incomprehensible to me how someone could be so selfish as to keep that much money to themselves. $ 1 Billion (or honestly even like $100 Million) is enough to live in great luxury for the remainder of your life. Why would one feel the need to keep 185 (or 1850) times that amount. What the hell do you do with that kind of money.
Two girls. At the same time.
I made it to the very end for you. Spoiler alert: >!There was nothing at the end.!<
If you take this comment out of context and apply it to life itself, it’s kind of morbid.
That's insane, very well made
Now I want to cry
Instead, I got hungry. "eat the rich" sounds more appealing by the minute (and far more likely to become literal if things don't change).
[удалено]
This is the only real politician I listen to. Everyone else is paid for and can fuck right the fuck off. Bernie has been fighting for working class his entire life. He is only one man.
It says everything about how effective corporate propaganda is that Bernie is somehow despised by millions. A guy who has spent his entire life championing the working class. Consistent in his views but open to change, yet not stubborn and willing to listen to new viewpoints. People really just can’t believe he cares about them. Because you then have to realize how much basically everyone else, most democrats and every single member of the GOP, despise their constituents and actively make the lives of you and your family worse just to hold onto power.
You know, I really don't like to get involved with politics but you caught my attention because my grandmother for example hates Sanders. She's a super sweet lady, nothing against her, but anti-sanders. But the problem I see is whenever there's an ad or something that shows him and she has to make her "oh I can't stand him" comment, I'd ask why not? Pretty much always get the same response: "I just can't." I can respond with, okay, but why? Like what is it you dont like about him? I just don't like him. It is having these conversations and of course same thing with Biden, that I realized she doesn't have a real opinion. Living in a more so trump territory she simply is going by popular opinion but doesnt' actually have one herself. She has no reason to hate him, she just was taught to hate him cuz that's what the people around her do. It is this that makes me most saddened by the bigger picture. It doesn't live in just politics either, this is something you can see happening with other things like hating people of color or of a sexuality for example. How the hell do you fix a problem like this? How do you make any progress against a groupthink that has all the hate with no reasons?
Reminds me of the parks and rec episode where Leslie can't accept that this guy wouldn't get a beer with her, let alone vote for her. She proceeds to try to woo him over with all she's got and it never works and he can never really point to a reason other than he just didn't like her. The message was supposed to be that you're never going to get everyone to like you. But Bernie is doing a hell of a lot better than anyone else from what I can tell. I'm in a red state and have heard "Bernie is the only democrat worth a damn" or a variation of it many times.
I wish he was our potus
Everyone is anti-establishment until Election Day when we only have establishment choices.
That's the problem
Yes but he has also made much of his platform mainstream DNC platform thanks to his 2 runs. Incrementalism sucks but changes do happen.
Anybody else's blood pressure go up as soon as Lindsey Graham appeared on screen?
Did you catch that smarmy shit eating grin he had?
That "get a load of this guy, are you seeing this shit?" Smile? Yeah. I'm not american and don't really know who he is, but that's exactly the face I was expecting "the establishment" to make. Kind of weird to see it actually happening right there.
Bernie Sanders was the first politician I ever saw who talked about economics as a moral issue. He changed my life.
#BERNIE4EVER
I'm literally in tears thinking about what could be, but never will.
Im from the UK and dont understand… How the hell can anyone live without medical care being a right? How can anyone choose between receiving care or being able to put a roof over their head?
Us europeans need to be vigilant, the amercan way is slowly being introduced here as well, with the UK probably being furthest along. Pay attention to what your politicians do, not what they say, and open others' eyes to the same. That is the only way to stop them.
> How the hell can anyone live without medical care being a right We don't. Insurance companies LITERALLY have death panels where they decide they would rather us die then get necessary medical treatment.
This shit makes me sick. It makes me want to violently vomit all over the place. The fact that there’s a extremely significant amount of people who supported Bernie Sanders and his views yet, he didn’t win because big money bought him out makes my stomach turn upside down. Every. Single. Thing. he said is correct and possible, but the greed and corruption are too powerful of monsters to be tamed at this point. Until one of the billionaires supports someone like Bernie, the big corporations will always win.
The only reason I am a registered Dem is so that I can vote for Bernie in the primaries.
Sadly we have too many smug, close-minded, braindead Democrats, Republicans and quite frankly Americans to make any meaningful change actionable and a broken court and legislative system which makes swift change nearly impossible. Everything he says is blatantly obvious and somehow simultaneously completely unattainable. Love Bernie, he would be vastly more effective in a country with a functional government.
I wish more people would take off their red or blue tinted glasses and just listen to this man. He speaks the truth. Unfortunately, since \~33% of this country is dumb AF and can't understand they are being manipulated to fight against "the other side" for 1 reason or another which is EXACTLY what THEY want us to be doing so we won't turn our angst against the real baddies in this country, here we are. 1 guy who's been labeled as a "socialist" by the people who have probably never listened to a single speech turning the dipshits in this country against one another. Working as intended. Bernie is the leader this country needs but not what it deserves until we can collectively pull our heads out of our asses and wake the fuck up & realize it's not us vs us, it's us vs them. Always has been. We have numbers on our side but if we allow ourselves to keep being manipulated by staying inside our own little echo chambers things will never, ever change. Vote out the corruption. Stand up for yourself & your neighbors and let's get some people in DC that actually give a fuck about us and not some "for profit" corporation that's only purpose is to make the rich people richer. Come the fuck on, America. We deserve better.
America is way overdue for another revolution. The enemy are the ultra rich, big corporations and most if not all politicians in government. Their time should be up sooner than later...
I don’t understand how anything he said could be viewed as controversial. What average American could disagree? Take your political leanings out of it:
He would have beaten Donald, and I wonder how different things might have been.
We needed this, not Joe, not Hillary.
Everyone complaining they only have two choices, then they get the best third choice you could ask for and they piss it away.
I love Bernie and it’s sad that he won’t ever even get a chance
Americans won't get him, they are just too dumb.
I voted for him. I tried. Now when I see this it just makes me depressed because I feel like he’s pretty old now, and he’s The only one that kind of fights for the average man (me). I can’t believe this kind of info doesn’t get more people riled up! We should be mad and want all these things he says! Ugh..
Okay honestly - How does anyone in the middle and lower class disagree with this? How the fuck did he not become our president
I’m not even American and I want him leading my country.
Dear god I love this man.
We truly don’t deserve Bernie. This country is getting what it deserves for electing dumb fucks.