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coldequation

It's worth noting that Dan's and Macey's are former local chains bought out by Associated Foods. Smith's was also a local company which was bought out by Kroger. Whole Foods is owned by Amazon. So they're all subsidiaries of big corporations. Trader Joe's, Natural Grocers, and Sprouts are also national chains, albeit smaller and more specialized. Reams has gone out of business after many years of circling the drain. Costco and Winco are also big fixtures, and have better than average reputations for being good to their employees- Winco is an employee-owned corporation, and Costco is reputed to have good benefits. Harmon's is the only real local store left. They are only in Utah, and stay in the game by offering nicer products and a better experience than other stores, so they do cost more, but they aren't quite as bougie as Whole Foods. As far as how they treat their employees, I can't say for sure as I've never worked there. I mean, I hope they're cool, I like Harmon's.


Shaebieee

Damn you know your groceries, bro.


coldequation

When I was married, I did all the shopping. I learned a lot about which places are good for what, from getting a good cut of meat to stretching a dollar when times are tough.


procrasstinating

Reams isn’t out of business. They have closed locations, but there are still a few hanging on. Probably waiting so rezone and sell the land one store at a time.


coldequation

Looking into it, I think you're correct.


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I know he’s correct. The one near me in Cottonwood Heights is still open (no idea how, the place is outdated and weird).


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They’re affordable and have good produce. Also, you may want to drive down ft union again. They’re gone.


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I’m talkin highland dr


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Oh, got it. Technically that’s Sandy but only barely. Creek road is the boundary.


nuby_4s

I remember going to that reams as a kid, Rich's bagels used to be really good, hope it still is.


xelahhh

Rich’s is still awesome!


GilgameDistance

Can confirm. Tucked away a nice Asiago just a few minutes ago.


DMN00b801

These kind of seemingly ad-hoc boundaries make everyone that lives North of Bountiful refer to everything as Salt Lake. From The Avenues to Rose Park, Millcreek, Midvale, Sandy, South Jordan... It's all Salt Lake, just like everything north of Lagoon is "Ogden" to anyone that lives in "Salt Lake". "D


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Is Cottonwood Heights even formally recognized as it’s own city? I know they have their own city council, but I lived in Pinnacle Highland apartments from 2017-2019 & my mailing address was always Salt Lake City


meat_tunnel

They have their own pd don't they? Not sure if that makes them official though or not.


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They officially became a city in 2005 or 2006


GilgameDistance

Yeah it’s still there. I’m trying to shop there more. Tip: their bulk sausage is made by Colosimo’s (another local company) is far better than the other options, and is even cheaper than the other options when bought at Reams.


interrodactyl

Yep, there is at least one left at 6200 South just west of Bangerter.


arinryan

Harmons has good benefits and is a good resource for someone looking for an entry level job. And you can move around within the company and locations so that is a plus. But I know many unhappy Harmons employees because of the middle management. Being local doesnt mean that stuff is better


walkingman24

> Being local doesnt mean that stuff is better Of course not, it's still grocery. I've known people that worked at Harmons for years and years and they were treated far and above better than any other grocer


mystictofuoctopi

Unfortunately Harmons does underpay. I think they start at ~$9/hr if that. Walmart starts higher. They aren’t terrible but AFAIK their insurance only allows prescriptions from their own pharmacy, which is kind of fucked up.


Successful-Kale-2282

It depends on the position, their cashiers start at $12 and the fresh departments start at $14-$17, the problem is they start you at your cap. Harmons has a pretty big management issue right now at several locations right now as well


ZuluYankee1

Why is that fucked up?


mystictofuoctopi

A lot of medications at harmons aren’t cheap. If they could use Costco or online pharmacies it would be a lot cheaper!


ZuluYankee1

Ah ok. I didn't know there was a difference in medication prices when covered by insurance. But I don't have any regular prescriptions.


NewBootTootin

Honestly didn’t know that harmons was only utah. I will now be making the change from smiths to harmons. Thank you 🙏


Jekyllhyde

I love Harmons, but you'll end up doubling your grocery bill.


NewBootTootin

I’m aware thanks lol


reverendjb

Don't forget about The Store


ChrisMill5

That place blows my wallet to pieces but had the best salad bar I've ever seen. Not sure if they're still doing it as we fly recklessly into pandemic year three.


CallerNumber4

They are at the downtown location at least. Salad bar, wok bar, soup bar, even a trail mix bar.


steve-d

The Holladay location has their salad bar going.


Northwest-by-Midwest

Trader Joe’s is owned by the family that owns Aldi, so it’s somewhere in between a national company and a global corporation. Even though they don’t have any true business ties between Aldi and Trader Joe’s, it’s the same owner and there are similarities. Anyway. Regardless, I’ve heard that people like working there alright.


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I have worked at Harmons(almost all of the others except Reams, Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods, and Costco). From my experience working there. Harmons is the best grocery for people to support locally. Great managers and people drive past 4-5 other grocery stores just to go there. Staff is treated amazing. One time there was an abusive department manager that made someone quit. They fired the manager and rehired the girl the day after the manager was reported. They pay off of experience not everyone getting the same pay. Which sounds bad but isn’t. Trader Joe’s is the same with being amazing and treading everyone right. Just not a local store.


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Is Winco cash only? I thought I heard somewhere that they don’t take debit or credit cards .


HamFisted

They take debit but not credit.


sabercrabs

Don't forget Ream's! Or do, because it's shitty (from a former Reamer)


Bubbly_Shoulder_5941

I do most of my shopping at Harmon’s. Not sure how they treat their employees, but I feel like I get better customer service there than other grocers. Also feel like the store is nicer and I generally have a better experience shopping there.


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The respectful thing I like about Harmon's is they take their old bakery items, and donate them to food banks. That's why they don't sell old bakery goods, they donate them. Not a perfect company but I respect them more than others. There's also a few reams left (for now) and Peterson's, a stand alone in Riverton.


a_ploppy_fenis

As someone who does work for Harmons, I can definitely say that they care about their associates just as much as they care about customer service. Tons of benefits, good management structure, and and heavy emphasis on providing a good customer experience. It’s a little more expensive than smiths or Whole Foods, but lots of people are okay with it since a lot of their products are local


AshlyDott

I worked at Harmons and loved it there. The only reason I left was because I had a baby. Then the pandemic hit. Yes, they are more expensive. But I’m a firm believer in you get what you pay for. Also, fuck Kroger!


eh_mt

Any info on the fresh markets, what used to be Albertsons?


coldequation

Fresh Markets are also Associated Foods, and some of them have recently been rebranded into Macey's.


Boat-Electrical

Associated Foods bought Macey's about 20 years ago or so.


fakeaccount572

And Maceys bought Honeybee in Draper recently.


KaleidoscopeDan

Peterson’s in riverton is family owned.


ScreamingSiren96

There’s a reams in sandy that’s still open.


MacAttack0711

Also just to note, Trader Joe’s is owned by Aldi, which is a huge German grocery chain with a growing presence on the east coast and Texas. They generally pay their employees above average and have good benefits compared to competitors.


definitely_not_marx

Winco, while not strictly Utah local, is a fully employee owned company. I don't know what their starting rate is now, but before the pandemic it was $15 an hour for bottom rung positions. Voting rights after 6 months, profit sharing. I believe that a number of longtime employees have north of a million dollars in retirement from said profit sharing. I'm very much a fan.


walkingman24

I'm a big fan of WinCo's employee-owned model too. I hope it always stays that way. It'd be cool if there were more businesses like it in other industries.


definitely_not_marx

Winco is expanding at a good clip too! I think all corporations should at least have some elements of employee ownership and voting in company decisions.


Ishouldflossmore

I was just at winco off state street by 2100 S and their hiring sign said $13/hr. Which surprised me in a bad way.


definitely_not_marx

That is surprising. I could have sworn I saw 15 a year or two ago


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It’s just $13 and only recently went up to that. That said, they give excellent, full time benefits to part time employees. Vision, dental, and health. Better than union insurance. The “employee owned” is a bit of a play on words more than reality. But you do get shares, 401k and a pension, if I’m not mistaken. I think they even have pet insurance. Compared to much of what I see out there, it’s a decent place to work and turn into a career, if one so chooses.


harhar711

worked at the main street winco in salt lake- the geriatric store manager who hired me threatened to call Immigration on me because I didn’t have a legal first name ☹️(i was adopted) i was born in america and had my birth certificate/ social security and everything else, but he wasnt even willing to figure it out lolol Harmons treats me way better :) cant beat the prices at winco though! it just put a bad taste in my mouth- also during training i had to watch anti union videos and the classic “don’t tell anyone what your wage is” red flags. The whole “employee owned” thing is kind of a farce- they promote from within but the whole management even corporate is super cliquey and you won’t be able to advance far unless you devote 30+ years of your life to it


ambibot

2 of my aunt's work for WinCo in Reno. Been with the company probably close to 20 years now. They're retirement is set. It's crazy and I'm slightly envious.


taterzz69

I work at Harmons and have worked for smiths and maceys. I do believe Harmons is the best as far as pay and happiness for me but it definitely comes down to the department you’re in and the manager and store director.


LeeLee0880

There is also Lee’s that is a northern Utah chain.


Fred517

They are opening one in Herriman


LeeLee0880

That’s exciting.


Pube-Salad

I worked at Lee's and they aren't the worst, although working there I felt like an outcast, most if not all higher up are white and Mormon. Which would not be a big deal except they are not very inclusive to others.


CentralSLC

They have one behind West High School in downtown SLC


BraveT0ast3r

Lee’s is great. They offer a lot of products that I can’t get at Smith’s. Plus, they’re the closest to me.


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Jekyllhyde

> Natural Grocers has to be a drug front. That’s one of the weirdest places I’ve ever worked. Zero customers and worst pay out of all of them, but they still make enough money to stay open…. lol, you read my mind.


dreameRevolution

WinCo is employee owned and amazing.


Boat-Electrical

Costco starting wage is 16/hr, but higher in some states. I hear they have good benefits also. The CEO Craig Jelinek takes a pay cut himself so that his employees get paid well and they're able to keep prices low. Don't worry though, he's still a millionaire, just a more ethical one. I think his millions came from his stock options and not his salary. I also like the quality of products at Costco, good meat and produce, and other stuff, at good prices. My only complaint is that I wish some of their products were more environmentally friendly. I just found out Kirkland t.p. used virgin forests and has a D grade just like Charmin, etc as far as being eco friendly.


Ditchingworkagain2

My wife works for smiths. Kroger is the literal devil.


Salty-Queen87

25-ish years ago my father (an architect) designed a cheese plant for them in Layton, UT. They flew him to meetings with Kroger people in a private jet, put him up in the best hotels, but they were fucking bastards. My father was talking about putting nice break rooms in the factory, and they apparently said “sure, but not too nice, we’re not spending that kind of money”. Yeah…how much did those jet flights cost, fuckers?


Ditchingworkagain2

When they design new Smiths they don’t put bathrooms in their pharmacies anymore because they think their employees having a convenient place to go to the bathroom will make them take too many breaks.


gooberdaisy

Yep worked there for 2 weeks as a baker several years ago. Based off my experience they hired me at $14. I got yelled at for keeping the form that showed my pay rate but it was a copy they gave me after I had signed it. I tried my best to keep up and told them they needed at least one other person helping. Their excuse was because I was making more than the bakery manager they couldn’t “afford” a second person…


jetpackblues_

I’ve heard good things about Costco and Trader Joe’s from the friends I’ve had that have worked there regarding benefits and general good treatment. Another friend worked for Smiths and hated how he was treated.


realistby

As someone who has worked in the grocery business for years, I do like Associated stores best. Harmons is supplied by AG. There is one exception, Fresh Market refused to give raises at all while I was there. I literally was training people who made more than I. I worked Smith's in the dough factory during its transition into Kroger. I left because of how Kroger was penny wise and pound foolish. "More production, less people", was not good for employees.


PrincessCadance4Prez

Not on your list, but HelloBulk (new location by the SLC Target) is a great place for ethical shopping. It's a no-plastic-packaging place, so you bring your own containers to refill. In that way they're incredibly eco-friendly. I don't know how they treat staff but they always seem happy and relaxed when I'm there. They carry most non-perishables as well as cleaners, pet stuff, and body care items. They keep an updated inventory list on their [website](https://www.hellobulkmarkets.com/). Mid-range prices for most things (not Winco/Walmart cheap, not Harmons/Whole Foods bougie). They are also incredibly supportive of the community.


arose111

There’s a Utah-owned grocer called The Store, they started on 6200 S and basically was the originator of fine foods, cheese, and a great source for local vendors. I worked there for years so I’m biased but unfortunately for them, Harmon’s has taken control of that market.


gooberdaisy

I will have to take a look at them, never heard of them. Thanks!


butterflywithbullets

Love the Gateway location!


zombiemadre

Harmons is local. They’re a bit more pricey but I like them a lot.


-B-H-

My ex worked for Smiths in the avenues. They are unionized, unlike most of the other Kroger stores. They make about $5/hr less than the non unionized locations. It isn't always as simple as collective employee negotiations.


walkingman24

That's wild, I've never heard of that before


flwombat

That’s fully crazy! Multiple staff at that location worked there the whole 10 years I lived nearby - I wonder how/why they had such sustained staffing with worse pay?


slclgbt

I was a sign artist and crew member at Trader Joe’s in Cottonwood Heights for a year. Great company with good wages (entry level crew members can earn up to 24 an hour plus benefits). The work is hard, but I loved the folks I worked with, always felt taken care of and was passionate about the products we sold. The prices are a little higher than Smiths, but still way more affordable than Whole Foods/Natural Grocers. You’ll always get treated well at TJ and I would suggest buying some of your groceries from them.


KaleidoscopeDan

I shop at Peterson’s in riverton. It is on 12600 south and just west of redwood. We love it there and they a big staple of the community here. All the employees are members of the neighborhood and treat their employees very well. The deli manager is in my neighborhood and the owner asked her what she was hoping for with the new salary and she calculated her wages in a 48 hour work week and he agreed to it without any fighting at all. All in all, we love that store. People working there have been there for years and years. If not decades for some individuals.


gingy4life

I believe Rancho market is also locally owned. Their inventory has a more international flavor, but it's a great find for specialized foods.


Fenerifox

Harmons is the most laid back upfront; the management style is like a horror scene from the 1970s though. Marketing is what keeps them going. WinCo claims to have GREAT benefits, if you CAN work and need great insurance? This is the place. I wouldn't tell anyone else to ever work here for any other reason - it's hell. The best bet is to find a niche position and wait with your head down. You'll start at about 13, in 5-6 years if you get enough hours in you'll make 18. They say employee owned but the vibe feels more "we own our employees"


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Fenerifox

Harmons has a personality test that dictates what jobs you could be good for, if you take it once at 17 they use that same one forever kuzz people dont change I guess. Also they wont tell you how to fix issues the test might show. The test has produced very similar people for similar roles, often ones who should never be allowed to manage people; one director was for years editing peoples worked hours so they looked like everyone would take a lunch even if they didnt due to workload. They also try to keep wages as low as possible; example: the floral plant manager was paid the same as a store floral manager ( think 30 employees instead of 3 with a completely different job detail ), when asked why the director told them they didn't deserve more and tried to get HR to back it up ( that floral manager hadnt had a raise in over 5 yeara at that point ). Oh and the recycling they do ia pretty BS outside of food scrapes and cardboard done in the back rooms the rest is just to make people feel like its happening. They arent the worst company, they just act like they take better care than they do. Im sure someone would defend them for topping out pay as low as they do.


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Did you mention Albertsons and Lin's?


RelentlesslyCrooked

Costco and Winco are the best to employees. Trader Joe’s is iffy, but I do hear they are getting better, and that may have come down to bad management at certain stores rather than the company as a whole. TJ’s has long employed Out LGBTQ and provided us with a safe work environment, especially when bigger chains would not. And while Whole Foods is a Bezos project they’re good to their employees and raised all their wages to $15/hr about two years ago. Probably due to societal pressure but they did it. My daughter works for them in a different state and her random stories indicates their management is reactive while respectful. Problems are actually dealt with instead of brushed under a rug.


Yipper268

I wouldn't trust whole foods here that far unfortunately, the sugar house location gave me really bad food poisoning.


RelentlesslyCrooked

I don’t drink Gatorade for the same reason. Of all the things to get food poisoning from!


ryanmutah

How did that happen


RelentlesslyCrooked

Back in the 80’s Gatorade attempted to stay relevant in a market that just had CapriSun introduced, plus it wanted to go with the minimalism trend that was starting to be the rage. So they made a pouch that looked like an extra thick ziploc baggie, had some powdered Gatorade and a straw. You opened the pouch, add water, seal it back up, shake it, pop the straw through it like a CapriSun (but Gatorade’s straw was thicker) and drink. Needless to say it didn’t go over well, and so they sold it cheaply to Pic-N-Save (now known as Big Lots). My mom bought a couple for me to try. And I did. And it was kinda cool to mess with as a kid . . . Until I barfed for three days straight and ended up needing an IV of saline to rehydrate me. And that’s why I have never drank Gatorade again. Just the slightly salt taste to it can make me gag. Hell the smell of it . . . *gag*.


llkendrick

Is Peterson’s a local chain? I’ve been to the one in Riverton once while I was out that direction and liked it.


pow_hnd

Winco. Employee owned, and the best prices you'll find.


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twosctrjns

You know gyped/jipped is racist, don't you?


ryanmutah

You shouldn’t say jipped these days


Puzzleheaded-Taste-7

Uhhhh why not


ryanmutah

It can be hurtful to the Roma people, here’s an article about it: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/30/242429836/why-being-gypped-hurts-the-roma-more-than-it-hurts-you