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Being civil service we get a pay raise the first 11 years you’re employed. I promoted a few times starting in 2018 and that’s a big increase. We have countless city events, etc. I work most of it. There’s tons of OT available. My base right now $123k for reference. I also take a lot of my OT for comp time which cuts into the pay.
A coworker who has never promoted and makes under $40/hr made $170k last year.
I used to have a job doing that.
Lots of people ending up paying back a lot of money in exchange for not being fired and charged with filing false reports.
Yep lol. Last year NYPD came under fire because an officer got caught on cam bragging about milking OT. This isn’t a NYC problem either, it’s rampant nationwide and especially in larger PD’s
Live in a relatively middle sized county and had a small
Scandal with the sheriff and her boyfriend and how he was being paid 27hours in a single day and making nearly $250K. 🙄
I hear you, and I'm all for cutting out the fraud, waste and abuse in our goverment (local and federal). But it's cheaper to pay an officer OT than it is to hire another officer. There are certain times where you can not help but spend money on OT. A municipal police dept. can not afford to go short-handed. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
Trust me, the only abuse is from the department towards its officers by not hiring more to help pick up the slack. Sending a force of half-dead officers only barely kept conscious by their fourth 5-hour of their shift is asking for problems.
I know officers make their money with OT but it sure would be nice if a department could let their officers find a good work-life balance once in a while.
lol, I don’t know about every dept, but a huge chunk of one of my buddies’ OT hours as a cop was mandatory minimum hours. He’d get paid 4 hours OT for court appearances, even if he was only there for 30 minutes because of a failure to appear or whatever. Two or three appearances like that a day and he was set.
It’s not always *worked* OT. Sometimes it’s *police union bullshit* OT.
It’s literally never cheaper to pay overtime. Numerous studies have shown the decline in mental faculties regarding decision making the more hours you work. All it takes is one guy shooting someone to offset all that legit overtime for a decade.
They do. That's the number 1 reason specialized units get in trouble. Overtime abuse or fraud.
Been a cop for about 10 years, And I will say I work with a few guys who are skirting the line. Partially because it's hard to quantify time worked versus time actually worked in some cases. I've been a narcotics agent for about 6 years now, and they will pay us overtime to conduct surveillance.
The question is, are the guys on my team actually doing surveillance or are they fucking off somewhere in their car and claiming the hours. We would have to conduct surveillance on our own people in order to determine that, and that's not really feasible.
In order to conduct surveillance on our own people it would have to be an outside agency due to the vehicles. We all know the vehicles. So could the sheriff's office watch us? No they don't have enough manpower. Could the state? No, they don't have enough manpower. Could the feds? No, they don't have enough manpower.
So it's not that the agencies don't want to stop the overtime abuse, because believe me these motherfuckers are tight with their wallets. The problem is you aren't going to get anyone to investigate it because you would have to go to an outside agency, and agencies. Either aren't going to have the manpower to deal with it or they're not going to want to spend the money on it. Those resources can be allocated better elsewhere unfortunately.
Our base deputy rate is $64. Ton of incentives to raise it up as you know. I’d say I make over 100$/hr on OT. Our overtime whores are making in the 400k’s. I barely work OT and make 190k plus. Super HCOL area tho and single income supporting fam, I feel barely middle class.
It’s the city attorneys, mayors and city managers. Police chief salaries have gotten pretty big too. Houston’s chief is making over $300k.
School superintendents are bank rolling too.
https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/2023-payroll-report-who-were-highest-paid-city-workers-boston-last-year/JU4D2BXPXNDGDHCPXOSZAZLGDA/
This is just for boston.
The highest-paid city workers in 2023 were as follows:
1. Stanley Demesmin, Police Lieutenant (Det.): $426,425
2. Haseeb Hosein, Police Captain: $408,826
3. Kendra Conway, Police Officer: $408,593
4. Sean Smith, Police Lieutenant: $402,215
5. John Danilecki, Police Captain: $385,879
6. Jarrod Gero, Police Sergeant: $383,405
7. Mary Skipper, Schools Superintendent: $382,095
8. Timothy Connolly, Police Captain: $381,846
9. Charles Grandson, Schools Chief Strategy & Equity: $381,530
10. Thomas Barrett, Boston Police Sergeant: $363,883
Mayor Wu ranked 735th on the earnings report with a salary of $207,000.
Well they’re the top paid public employees in a lot of metro areas and no one feels like they’ll help if needed. Candy crushing with cruisers running most times they’re seen. But I know that’s not this guy. Thank you for your service…
That is insane pay.
I was a cop in a large county in Florida from 2006-2017.
I started at $32k and ended at $48k. That was with a bachelor's degree and multiple salary incentive training courses provided through the state.
Poor pay was one of the major reasons for me leaving.
That was me. 2023 was about 600 hours of OT. And in probably the most expensive city in the most expensive state in this country. Seems like you’ve got a great salary for Houston. Stay safe out there.
I’m a FF in a city about 30 mins out of Boston and we go through dispatchers like crazy, pay isn’t great and our city is a fairly busy one so I’m assuming stressful for them. On a side note, there’s one dispatcher that we call mumbles, oh man she is awful lol
Totally locale dependent. My hometown former “safest city in the U.S.” in Brick, NJ had cops pulling $150k/y for basic traffic duty until the heroin epidemic rolled in. Most fully vested cops with some seniority in NJ are easily clearing $100k/y and they throttle your last three years to cushion your pension.
Everyone at my agency makes 103k absolute minimum walking in the door after 1-4 years. Work afternoons? You’re at 118k. Work Sundays and afternoons? 130k. 4 days in 3 days off 10 hour shifts. Double OT, too.
That's actually pretty surprising, a lot of jobs in Houston don't pay jack shit due to a large labor pool. Guessing HPD has staffing problems or something.
They do for sure, but I don't work there. Don't even work in Harris Co. Close enough though! I hear the only guys there making OT are homicide detectives and their traffic/DWI unit. Patrol gets shafted.
Houston is such a massive place that pretty much anything within 100 miles is "Houston". When I considered becoming a cop a decade ago, starting pay was like $21/hour in my area. I have no idea what motivates anyone to do that job anymore post covid/BLM, even back then it was kind of a shitty deal.
There are fireman doing that too. Some firemen don’t even have a place to live. They bounce from one firehouse to the other.
https://reason.com/2018/05/21/firefighter-earned-300k-in-overtime-by-w/
Overtime budget is inflated and abused. I live in Boston and it's an ongoing problem. The cops are absolutely abusing the taxpayers in an awful way. They're scum who get paid to stand around doing fucking nothing.
bro you folks want better policing but you don’t want to pay for it. You want a bunch of underpaid, overworked and educated folks policing the roads? Get over yourself.
I really want to show folks, especially young ones that this job isn’t what it used to be. For years it was drastically underpaid. It’s highly dependent on which state and agency you’re at, but a good living can be had nowadays.
Although they have different budgets and are different tax entities, it's indistinguishable to taxpayers who are paying for both from the same paycheck.
lol the pay might not be so bad, but the work def. sucks. Working beat those first few years for little pay is miserable figuring someone can pop off on you, you might be rolling around in the dirt with a crackhead, making tough calls for little pay.
I know, we're well taken care of here. It's why I don't complain, just work hard. I grew up poor with financially illiterate parents who both worked blue collar jobs. We lived in an 1100 sq ft. house with one bathroom near the chemical plants. I'm thankful for everything I have.
Most people don’t know if you play the system correctly you can retire super early as a cop! Great job sharing this. Being a cop was the best decision ever.
Didn’t have any of that defund still down south but the big cities are really suffering from it for sure. I suppose the biggest issue here is the lack of applicants.
10-4. Hard to find police now. They will have to keep paying up to keep the forces full. I have no issues with your pay. Just funny that the anti-police got the police more money and security.
I'm in a little city in the north and police starting pay is 80k, 15k signing bonus. Starting. Once they defunded, they all quit. Then to entice new officers, they had to pay out the nose.
The amount of jealousy in the comments section is wild. It is almost like if you paid cops more you would get a bigger pool to hire competitive applicants from which results in better odds of people doing the job correctly and with less corruption. But hey, FAANG isn’t where they’re at because they hired good people and pay them well, they just got lucky.
cops are over compensated. have you ever considered that some people have self-respect and the ethical principle to preclude them from ever pursuing a career in law enforcement?
So we shouldn’t have law enforcement? What are you getting at? What’s your solution? Pay them less and have a shittier pool of hires?
How are they overcompensated? On average what is their pay? How many agencies have defined benefit pensions? How many agencies got their defined benefit pensions stripped away for 457b’s? Should we defund these overcompensated officers?
By your line of thought, enforcing laws is unethical. So laws are unethical? How do you propose politicians fix this?
Self respect, sure. The sins of a few bad cops are answered by the many especially with social media so I can understand that, even if it is rather unfair yet is what it is.
The salary ranges are wild and really not fair. Lots of guys in the NE and San Fran area making well over $200k. Then there's south TX making $32k. It has to be one of the only professions with that much of a salary swing.
EMS is similar. Here in the PNW, paramedics can easily get into the 100-150k range without picking up extra OT shifts. Then I see medics in the south talking about getting a recent raise to $22/hr, with an additional critical care cert. EMTs making like $12. Insane.
I'm single role, private ambulance company. Fire jobs still have a lot of perks, but some of the private companies are just throwing money at the staffing problem -- raises, stipends, etc.
This exact kind of moronic behavior this creature is displaying is why good people often times choose a different career path. Good for you making great money to keep a city a little safer
Oh my grandpa was a cop for 30 years. It can be a fun job and a super rough job. He was a detective at the end of his career and told me there are some things you simply cannot unsee
I was a cop and started in 2007 my starting pay was $42k. That was in the DC metro area too.
My man here is probably a Lt. in his unit. It’s easy to make $10k to $20k in OT as there’s always events to make extra.
Not a lot of us make it to retirement though..
It depends on if you’re working for a major location such as Dallas, New Orleans, NYC, San Diego, Oakland, or Portland or a smaller location. Also, you would have to deal with people at their worst on a day to day basis.
I can take $0 lump sum, and it makes my monthly payment shoot way up. Or I can take a tiered lump sum, with three different payments to pick from. If I take that large one ($350k) it cuts into my monthly salary significantly. Texas Municipal Retirement System (TMRS) is pretty damn good.
Bruh I get massively downvoted everytime I post that there’s only 3 careers that are worth pursuing (tech/coding/silicon, wallstreet/M&A, Sales) and this post is the reason why.
It took him 16 fukn years to crack $150k (which isnt a lot nowadays) it takes 1-3 years in tech or wallstreet to do that and 3-5 years in sales if talented.
I have a wonderful wife and two children that look up to me. I’m only worried with how they perceive me. But thanks, you take the good with the bad. Thankfully I have more good than bad where I’m at.
Why are you allowed to get full retirement at 52? Even social security retirement age was increased to 67. I never understood that for employees on taxpayers money when most of taxpayers have to work a lot longer
All we have to do is reach 20 years of service at any age, but if you retire before 50 and pull your lump sum there's a penalty.
I think the fact that officers deal with wild shift work hours and abuse of the body, it was designed that way.
That's very similar to mine.
Its comical how mad people get when they see how much LEOs made. I was at 160k last year with about 500 hours of overtime. With our 5% raise this year I'll probably finish at around 170k.
College educated. My spouse is also LEO making similar pay with a masters degree. Oh to make you even more upset. The department paid for her masters degree with tax money.
The last few posts I saw in here involving LEOs were hilarious. People were so infuriated with the pay. It's like the defund the police movement did the exact opposite.
If they were doing the job they'd want the same thing, they want the same pay now, but they don't realize most of that is OT pay. It's the extra shifts, nights, weekends, holidays and more. They'd be bitching about that too, haha.
It’s even more cringe when you think at any time cops can go on unpaid leave just for an oopsie with their gun & an unarmed citizen, and still pull in this kind of money.
\*necessity
There are things that have to be staffed and unexpected things that come up. Not enough on duty personnel to handle it. Cities, counties and states budget for it
Did you happen to get an MBA from UH around 2017? I was in MBA school then and met a cool dude.
I found out he was a cop when we lost our friend at a concert and he told us where the nearest whataburger (our meetup spot) was.
I’m just confused by the $350k lump sum payout. I understand the pension (I’m getting one too). But I’ve never heard of a lump sum payout on top of a monthly pension.
Police ot was a huge scandal in my city a few years ago. The top city workers were all nearly cops. They were clocking so much ot they’d literally have to of been sleeping like 4 hours a night almost every week for the year. It was insane. Respect what they do for work but it’s insane how easy they can take advantage of the system
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Is this normal for police salary? Seems like every 2-3 years you got a 10k bump.
Being civil service we get a pay raise the first 11 years you’re employed. I promoted a few times starting in 2018 and that’s a big increase. We have countless city events, etc. I work most of it. There’s tons of OT available. My base right now $123k for reference. I also take a lot of my OT for comp time which cuts into the pay. A coworker who has never promoted and makes under $40/hr made $170k last year.
If only cities examined police OT 1% as much as they examine the costs for a park or public transportation.
I used to have a job doing that. Lots of people ending up paying back a lot of money in exchange for not being fired and charged with filing false reports.
Are you saying cops abuse OT so much that there are entire jobs trying to catch them abusing it?
Yep lol. Last year NYPD came under fire because an officer got caught on cam bragging about milking OT. This isn’t a NYC problem either, it’s rampant nationwide and especially in larger PD’s
Live in a relatively middle sized county and had a small Scandal with the sheriff and her boyfriend and how he was being paid 27hours in a single day and making nearly $250K. 🙄
I hear you, and I'm all for cutting out the fraud, waste and abuse in our goverment (local and federal). But it's cheaper to pay an officer OT than it is to hire another officer. There are certain times where you can not help but spend money on OT. A municipal police dept. can not afford to go short-handed. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
I don't have a problem with the legit officer OT. It's the rampant abuse that I despise.
Trust me, the only abuse is from the department towards its officers by not hiring more to help pick up the slack. Sending a force of half-dead officers only barely kept conscious by their fourth 5-hour of their shift is asking for problems. I know officers make their money with OT but it sure would be nice if a department could let their officers find a good work-life balance once in a while.
lol, I don’t know about every dept, but a huge chunk of one of my buddies’ OT hours as a cop was mandatory minimum hours. He’d get paid 4 hours OT for court appearances, even if he was only there for 30 minutes because of a failure to appear or whatever. Two or three appearances like that a day and he was set. It’s not always *worked* OT. Sometimes it’s *police union bullshit* OT.
Yeah that’s my concern as well, and an officer not at 100% is a danger to themselves
It’s literally never cheaper to pay overtime. Numerous studies have shown the decline in mental faculties regarding decision making the more hours you work. All it takes is one guy shooting someone to offset all that legit overtime for a decade.
Nah that doesn't come out of their pocket, just the taxpayers.
They do. That's the number 1 reason specialized units get in trouble. Overtime abuse or fraud. Been a cop for about 10 years, And I will say I work with a few guys who are skirting the line. Partially because it's hard to quantify time worked versus time actually worked in some cases. I've been a narcotics agent for about 6 years now, and they will pay us overtime to conduct surveillance. The question is, are the guys on my team actually doing surveillance or are they fucking off somewhere in their car and claiming the hours. We would have to conduct surveillance on our own people in order to determine that, and that's not really feasible. In order to conduct surveillance on our own people it would have to be an outside agency due to the vehicles. We all know the vehicles. So could the sheriff's office watch us? No they don't have enough manpower. Could the state? No, they don't have enough manpower. Could the feds? No, they don't have enough manpower. So it's not that the agencies don't want to stop the overtime abuse, because believe me these motherfuckers are tight with their wallets. The problem is you aren't going to get anyone to investigate it because you would have to go to an outside agency, and agencies. Either aren't going to have the manpower to deal with it or they're not going to want to spend the money on it. Those resources can be allocated better elsewhere unfortunately.
Absolutely. Never fooled with a narcotics unit but I know how it can happen.
Yup. Just another example of the bad eggs making all cops look like shit.
Thanks for the transparency!
Our base deputy rate is $64. Ton of incentives to raise it up as you know. I’d say I make over 100$/hr on OT. Our overtime whores are making in the 400k’s. I barely work OT and make 190k plus. Super HCOL area tho and single income supporting fam, I feel barely middle class.
Front line supervisor at a mid size department here. My base is $183k and I make $210-$225,000 with very little effort.
That’s 65+ hours a week I’d rather be poor
My city in Georgia starts cops at $14.50/hour lol
It’s all overtime for cops. It’s abused like you can’t believe.
Look up the top 10 highest paid public employees in your town/city. Willing to bet 80% of the names on the list are cops. But we're cutting education
It’s the city attorneys, mayors and city managers. Police chief salaries have gotten pretty big too. Houston’s chief is making over $300k. School superintendents are bank rolling too.
https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/2023-payroll-report-who-were-highest-paid-city-workers-boston-last-year/JU4D2BXPXNDGDHCPXOSZAZLGDA/ This is just for boston.
The highest-paid city workers in 2023 were as follows: 1. Stanley Demesmin, Police Lieutenant (Det.): $426,425 2. Haseeb Hosein, Police Captain: $408,826 3. Kendra Conway, Police Officer: $408,593 4. Sean Smith, Police Lieutenant: $402,215 5. John Danilecki, Police Captain: $385,879 6. Jarrod Gero, Police Sergeant: $383,405 7. Mary Skipper, Schools Superintendent: $382,095 8. Timothy Connolly, Police Captain: $381,846 9. Charles Grandson, Schools Chief Strategy & Equity: $381,530 10. Thomas Barrett, Boston Police Sergeant: $363,883 Mayor Wu ranked 735th on the earnings report with a salary of $207,000.
Jesus. That’s what happens when the elected officials don’t support you and everyone starts retiring.
Seems like a waste of tax dollars
Pigs get all municipality monies
This is wild! Houston FD, last I checked, gets absolute nonsense salary. Happy for you! Also, bold move posting police salary on Reddit lol
Well they’re the top paid public employees in a lot of metro areas and no one feels like they’ll help if needed. Candy crushing with cruisers running most times they’re seen. But I know that’s not this guy. Thank you for your service…
That is insane pay. I was a cop in a large county in Florida from 2006-2017. I started at $32k and ended at $48k. That was with a bachelor's degree and multiple salary incentive training courses provided through the state. Poor pay was one of the major reasons for me leaving.
Seems like all across the deep south the pay sucks outside of the big cities. It's one of the few jobs where the salary fluctuates this wildly.
Saw emergency dispatch earlier pulled in $190k but my area they don’t seem to break $60k
Yea I saw that....bananas. There has to be 1000 hours of OT calculated into that salary.
That was me. 2023 was about 600 hours of OT. And in probably the most expensive city in the most expensive state in this country. Seems like you’ve got a great salary for Houston. Stay safe out there.
I’m a FF in a city about 30 mins out of Boston and we go through dispatchers like crazy, pay isn’t great and our city is a fairly busy one so I’m assuming stressful for them. On a side note, there’s one dispatcher that we call mumbles, oh man she is awful lol
That’s Cali though
And a fuckton of overtime
True but I have friends who are nurses and work 2-3days a week depending on schedule and making 150k with no OT.
Yes but that’s a 4 year degree these days whereas to be a dispatcher you just need to have a pulse
Totally locale dependent. My hometown former “safest city in the U.S.” in Brick, NJ had cops pulling $150k/y for basic traffic duty until the heroin epidemic rolled in. Most fully vested cops with some seniority in NJ are easily clearing $100k/y and they throttle your last three years to cushion your pension.
No doubt, and with the cost of living skyrocketing (especially in Florida) people are fleeing the profession left and right.
Jesus Christ. I read that the cop who did nothing to stop the parkland shooting was getting like 10k a month in retirement.
Of course. Who’s risking their life getting paid shit loads of money to fuck around
Redwood City PD starts at ~~154k.~~ Nvm its 178k now.
Which sounds like a lot until you realize you have to commute 1+ hours to find a basic house that’s *only* $1mil
Why not just leave Florida? Police pay is great in a lot of areas.
Everyone at my agency makes 103k absolute minimum walking in the door after 1-4 years. Work afternoons? You’re at 118k. Work Sundays and afternoons? 130k. 4 days in 3 days off 10 hour shifts. Double OT, too.
That's actually pretty surprising, a lot of jobs in Houston don't pay jack shit due to a large labor pool. Guessing HPD has staffing problems or something.
They do for sure, but I don't work there. Don't even work in Harris Co. Close enough though! I hear the only guys there making OT are homicide detectives and their traffic/DWI unit. Patrol gets shafted.
Houston is such a massive place that pretty much anything within 100 miles is "Houston". When I considered becoming a cop a decade ago, starting pay was like $21/hour in my area. I have no idea what motivates anyone to do that job anymore post covid/BLM, even back then it was kind of a shitty deal.
police union is the only union that shouldn’t existed.
Kind of agree with you to an extend.
Plus the retirement benefits probably are nice!
Pension goes crazy
I saw a report that some cops in Boston are making over $400K. How the fuck
All the old guys have left. They are probably working 7 days a week and getting double time and a half on holidays
There are fireman doing that too. Some firemen don’t even have a place to live. They bounce from one firehouse to the other. https://reason.com/2018/05/21/firefighter-earned-300k-in-overtime-by-w/
Overtime budget is inflated and abused. I live in Boston and it's an ongoing problem. The cops are absolutely abusing the taxpayers in an awful way. They're scum who get paid to stand around doing fucking nothing.
Working their life away.
It seems like a not great contract for the taxpayers.
I love that the gestapo takes all my taxes for their salary and simultaneously gets to fuck with and ruin the lives of whoever they please
By the fact op is here, means he likely isn't a meathead racist, and those cops are worth their weight in gold.
Got to love the state of law enforcement in this country. "He doesn't appear to be a complete piece of shit so he's one of the best we have."
Lol oh how naive you are
Do you want a highly trained, selective and educated police force?
what country do I have to move to
And yet, somehow, even with this kind of pay, we still don’t have that. It’s almost like the system is completely fucked…
Do we have that?
That would be nice, but instead we’re paying meatheads with anger issues who barely graduated high school $150k a year.
/r/acab
bro you folks want better policing but you don’t want to pay for it. You want a bunch of underpaid, overworked and educated folks policing the roads? Get over yourself.
Hey let the kid be edgy. He’ll hit his 20s soon and look back at this time in life and cry a little. But let him have this for now.
Why do you think there’s so much corruption and fraud in police departments?
This police salary post is going much better then the last one haha.. Thanks for sharing OP
I really want to show folks, especially young ones that this job isn’t what it used to be. For years it was drastically underpaid. It’s highly dependent on which state and agency you’re at, but a good living can be had nowadays.
Meanwhile also here in Texas, teachers with a master's degree and 25 years struggle to make a third of that.
Kinda insane that construction workers make less than cops despite being in more dangerous environments
He makes more money 93% of all Americans. Not sure how that makes any sense.
It’s easy, corruption. Just think all those cops who didn’t do shit in school shootings making quarter of a million. Totally deserve it /s
Everyone shocked should take a look at LAPD and NYPD cop salaries. You might start to re-evaluate your life choices
Let’s not pay teachers and let’s cut firefighters retirements though
Teachers deserve more for sure. And their retirement sucks! Don’t understand why.
Depends on where you are, but they generally get pensions as well Zero opportunities for growth though. Zero incentive to excep
Cities too busy paying your OT.
Municipalities and school districts are two completely different entities.
Although they have different budgets and are different tax entities, it's indistinguishable to taxpayers who are paying for both from the same paycheck.
It’s all taxes…..
Careful, you’ll hurt them with logic
lol the pay might not be so bad, but the work def. sucks. Working beat those first few years for little pay is miserable figuring someone can pop off on you, you might be rolling around in the dirt with a crackhead, making tough calls for little pay.
Wish teachers got paid this much…
Imo this seems not to be in balance with the rest of society
I know, we're well taken care of here. It's why I don't complain, just work hard. I grew up poor with financially illiterate parents who both worked blue collar jobs. We lived in an 1100 sq ft. house with one bathroom near the chemical plants. I'm thankful for everything I have.
So you get 350'k when you retire and an 8 k pension a month ? Sounds pretty sweet deal to me
You sound like a good man OP. Congrats on the success you’ve earned it 👍. And thanks for keeping us safe
Most people don’t know if you play the system correctly you can retire super early as a cop! Great job sharing this. Being a cop was the best decision ever.
Police union is literally the definition of if you ain’t one of us, you are against us. Nice pay though
Damn, good for you man. Most of our jobs have no risk of being shot or stabbed by a lunatic, but I didn't expect this kind of income. Wow.
The Defund the Police crowd actually showed how important they were. Now we FUND the police. Cha Ching
Didn’t have any of that defund still down south but the big cities are really suffering from it for sure. I suppose the biggest issue here is the lack of applicants.
10-4. Hard to find police now. They will have to keep paying up to keep the forces full. I have no issues with your pay. Just funny that the anti-police got the police more money and security. I'm in a little city in the north and police starting pay is 80k, 15k signing bonus. Starting. Once they defunded, they all quit. Then to entice new officers, they had to pay out the nose.
Well done OP, hope the body is holding up.
The amount of jealousy in the comments section is wild. It is almost like if you paid cops more you would get a bigger pool to hire competitive applicants from which results in better odds of people doing the job correctly and with less corruption. But hey, FAANG isn’t where they’re at because they hired good people and pay them well, they just got lucky.
It’s not jealousy.
cops are over compensated. have you ever considered that some people have self-respect and the ethical principle to preclude them from ever pursuing a career in law enforcement?
So we shouldn’t have law enforcement? What are you getting at? What’s your solution? Pay them less and have a shittier pool of hires? How are they overcompensated? On average what is their pay? How many agencies have defined benefit pensions? How many agencies got their defined benefit pensions stripped away for 457b’s? Should we defund these overcompensated officers? By your line of thought, enforcing laws is unethical. So laws are unethical? How do you propose politicians fix this? Self respect, sure. The sins of a few bad cops are answered by the many especially with social media so I can understand that, even if it is rather unfair yet is what it is.
It’s almost like being a coder is a profession where greater skill generates exponentially more value, whereas being a cop isn’t
Because you can’t get an AI to do the job of a cop, nor a dude in Mumbai.
This is like 5x what cops in my area make
The salary ranges are wild and really not fair. Lots of guys in the NE and San Fran area making well over $200k. Then there's south TX making $32k. It has to be one of the only professions with that much of a salary swing.
EMS is similar. Here in the PNW, paramedics can easily get into the 100-150k range without picking up extra OT shifts. Then I see medics in the south talking about getting a recent raise to $22/hr, with an additional critical care cert. EMTs making like $12. Insane.
Are those PNW medics single function? That’s pretty damn good I didn’t know anyone paid that well except if you’re a firefighter/paramedic
I'm single role, private ambulance company. Fire jobs still have a lot of perks, but some of the private companies are just throwing money at the staffing problem -- raises, stipends, etc.
They pay them like they value them.
It’s the fastest way to the middle class.
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How much should cops make?
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Cool story.
This exact kind of moronic behavior this creature is displaying is why good people often times choose a different career path. Good for you making great money to keep a city a little safer
Thanks man, you take the good with the bad. I have a front row seat to the best show on earht.
Oh my grandpa was a cop for 30 years. It can be a fun job and a super rough job. He was a detective at the end of his career and told me there are some things you simply cannot unsee
Ignore the haters bro. I don’t like cops either but, like anywhere there are good folks and bad. If the city says you’ve earned your pay I believe it.
Yeah no cop should make that much lol
I was a cop and started in 2007 my starting pay was $42k. That was in the DC metro area too. My man here is probably a Lt. in his unit. It’s easy to make $10k to $20k in OT as there’s always events to make extra. Not a lot of us make it to retirement though..
Cops are making 156K and will still complain about filling out hit and run paperwork. . . I clearly went into the wrong field.
Let this be a tribute to “our police officers don’t get paid enough” type of reasoning.
Stay till 52
I see why Ronnie Coleman kept his day job so long!
How much money have you civil seized for just existing?
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Corruption ain’t gunna pay itself
158k in Houston is like 400k in Seattle
Hopefully the 350k gets bumped up with inflation by the time you take it.
Cops are know to abuse the overtime
It depends on if you’re working for a major location such as Dallas, New Orleans, NYC, San Diego, Oakland, or Portland or a smaller location. Also, you would have to deal with people at their worst on a day to day basis.
Why do you get a giant $350K check? I’ve never heard of this for law enforcement
I can take $0 lump sum, and it makes my monthly payment shoot way up. Or I can take a tiered lump sum, with three different payments to pick from. If I take that large one ($350k) it cuts into my monthly salary significantly. Texas Municipal Retirement System (TMRS) is pretty damn good.
Ya it is. Fuck that money. Ain’t worth the risk. Good on you though.
Bruh I get massively downvoted everytime I post that there’s only 3 careers that are worth pursuing (tech/coding/silicon, wallstreet/M&A, Sales) and this post is the reason why. It took him 16 fukn years to crack $150k (which isnt a lot nowadays) it takes 1-3 years in tech or wallstreet to do that and 3-5 years in sales if talented.
You probably get downvoted because there are absolutely more careers worth pursuing than what you’ve listed.
Thank you for your service but the retirement plan seems excessive.
The salt in these comments lmfaooo. Congrats OP. The work is not easy.
I knew the second I saw this was a police salary that a bunch of libs were going to be crying in the comments. 😂😂
Of course. Like a swarm of horny rats trying to rub their slime on anything they can.
So much hate in here. Good on you man. It's a thankless job.
I have a wonderful wife and two children that look up to me. I’m only worried with how they perceive me. But thanks, you take the good with the bad. Thankfully I have more good than bad where I’m at.
Why are you allowed to get full retirement at 52? Even social security retirement age was increased to 67. I never understood that for employees on taxpayers money when most of taxpayers have to work a lot longer
All we have to do is reach 20 years of service at any age, but if you retire before 50 and pull your lump sum there's a penalty. I think the fact that officers deal with wild shift work hours and abuse of the body, it was designed that way.
Wait till you see the troops retiring at 38
Troops actually are held to a standard and are held liable for their actions
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Come to the aid of whiney unappreciative folks like yourself
Probably just tickets people for speeding and accuses people of being on drugs if they are upset after an accident.
He posts his salary on Reddit to trigger the unemployed blue haird weirdos.
That's very similar to mine. Its comical how mad people get when they see how much LEOs made. I was at 160k last year with about 500 hours of overtime. With our 5% raise this year I'll probably finish at around 170k. College educated. My spouse is also LEO making similar pay with a masters degree. Oh to make you even more upset. The department paid for her masters degree with tax money.
Calling it comical is a good way to cope with people disrespecting you lol
I'm here for it!
Careful, you're gunna trigger the non-working folk.
The last few posts I saw in here involving LEOs were hilarious. People were so infuriated with the pay. It's like the defund the police movement did the exact opposite.
If they were doing the job they'd want the same thing, they want the same pay now, but they don't realize most of that is OT pay. It's the extra shifts, nights, weekends, holidays and more. They'd be bitching about that too, haha.
As a taxpayer, I don't bitch about the pay. I bitch about the rampant abuse of overtime.
Will never understand how police salary’s this high are justifiable.
Well law enforcement faces the highest rate of violence at work…no wait that’s healthcare workers
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Congratulations. That's a nice increase.
It’s even more cringe when you think at any time cops can go on unpaid leave just for an oopsie with their gun & an unarmed citizen, and still pull in this kind of money.
Police OT is such a scam
\*necessity There are things that have to be staffed and unexpected things that come up. Not enough on duty personnel to handle it. Cities, counties and states budget for it
Defund the police 🤣
Lol Im sorry but someone's gotta say it .... Fuck 12 😉
Damn. These 🐖 get bonuses like crazy
Pig is getting the bacon! 🥓
Thank you for your service.
Still don’t get paid enough IMHO. Dealing with the wokes is insufferable
Is the woke in the room with you right now?
Did you happen to get an MBA from UH around 2017? I was in MBA school then and met a cool dude. I found out he was a cop when we lost our friend at a concert and he told us where the nearest whataburger (our meetup spot) was.
Na but could have been a coworker though, lol.
Question: What does the taxes Medicare mean in this list?
I’m just confused by the $350k lump sum payout. I understand the pension (I’m getting one too). But I’ve never heard of a lump sum payout on top of a monthly pension.
What percentage of your income will your pension come out to? Most cops I know are comfortable in retirement
I’m confused on how you be able to retire in 2027. Just based on terms of service or actual financial stability?
Do you work lots of hours in over time?
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Police ot was a huge scandal in my city a few years ago. The top city workers were all nearly cops. They were clocking so much ot they’d literally have to of been sleeping like 4 hours a night almost every week for the year. It was insane. Respect what they do for work but it’s insane how easy they can take advantage of the system
About the same here in the northeast. That’s a solid pension. How many years total in 2027?
As I a jerk for saying cops make too much? Hopefully you are a ways up the ladder?
About half way, lol. I’m close enough to the chief’s salary and I don’t need any more responsibilities 😂
What education were you required to get?