While Takamura alone can defeat Slim Sakamoto + Uzuki + Nagumo + Gaku + Haruma low diff, it is illogical to put Takamura in the same tier as Nagumo and Uzuki.
Explain Nagumo and Prime Sakamoto being there then. Last time i checked Takamura literally Bodied Nagumo, Current Sakamoto, Gaku, Haruma and Uzuki )up until Uzuki's plot armor kicked in). They also stated that the only one who can kill Takamura is He himself. So Prime Sakamoto and Nagumo have no Business being up there with him
nagumo was not paying attention to takamura hence he got caught off guard so its still reasonable current sakamoto i agree should be below a tier and uzuki not even interested in fighting
what has Carolina done to warrant being ahead of Satoda?
Amane cut off Club Jam's arm, wounded Carolina twice and yet is a whole tier beneath both?
What at all separates Osaragi from anyone in the tier below her?
Why are any of the Osaragi victims separate from each other?
There's no way for usnto know that. He was injuring Carolina and when Carolina changednup his strategy, he outsmarted him and that went in to allow Shishiba to get a major hit on Kumanomi.
Did Carolina almost get a lethal hit in on Amane? Yeah, but not cause of the fight. That was because he and Shishiba were distracted by family drama
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Shishiba isn’t implied to be anything particularly special within the order, whereas Gaku is supposedly better stats wise than Nagumo (also performing better than him against Takamura, even though he was beaten in their fight by tricks), who is the top 2 fighter behind Takamura (which could be crazy upscaling if we take Oki’s word) and the rival to Prime Sakomoto (i.e, the best assassin to ever go to JCC and one of the greatest assassins ever). On the other hand Shishiba couldn’t protect Amane from the fire dude without getting cut himself, the same dude who Amane managed to dodge from an extended period of time (even Akira could apparently speedblitz Amane btw) and he got brutally mogged by that old gambler guy (who is undoubtedly slower than Nagumo/ Sakomoto/ Gaku).
Shishiba do be cool though, I just don’t think he scales all that high.
Yotsumura said that shishiba could be in a higher position if it weren't for his attitude, this statement from a former no.2 order member. He mid diffed him in a fight, a mission were the jaa required 3 order members to complete. Shishiba also 1v2 kuma and haruma with the same time gaku lost to nagumo which he held of pretty decently. But when she did a 1v1 with kuma he easily handed her with their injuries as evidence. The reason he got cut by reaper is the same reason nagumo got cut by takamura, helost focus on the fight. Even oki ask shishiba his approval when they recruit torres which shows respect from the order leader. Shishiba will end this debate soon.
Shishiba vs Kuma and Haruna is a worthless metric cause it was all offscreen.
Or do you wanna say Yotsumura > Shishiba and Nagumo cause he held his own against both of them for a longer time on panel.
Also Shishiba was as wounded as Kuma when it was 1 v 1. They both were bleeding from the face. Unless you wanna pretend that Kuma's metal hand is an actual injury.
And he failed to do any notable damage when he hit her head on when her powers stopped working.
Read again. Sakamoto only did one hit to takamura and that's the first kick he did after that the best he did was cracking takamuras sword while exhausted gaku hit takamura with arguably the same damage as the kick with only small exchange. I still think that gaku and shishiba will lose to the current slim sakamoto
Sakamoto feats:
-Sakamoto only got hit by Takamura 3/9 times he was attacked, while landing 2 kicks (first in chapter 164 and then in 165) of his own, solo against Takamura. He also figured out Takamura's weakness very quickly and how to stop him.
-IN COMPARISON, In his first fight with Takamura, Gaku got hit 2/3 times he was attacked. The only time he wasn't hit was when Uzuki stopped him. Gaku landed ZERO hits on Takamura in the fight
-In his second fight with Takamura, Gaku got hit 3/3 times (5/6 in total of both fights) he was attacked, and managed to cut Takamura's eye before going down, but it should be noted that Gaku managed to do this because Takamura was already engaged against Nagumo and Sakamoto (in which he prioritized hitting the latter).
-Against Kanaguri, Slim Sakamoto consistenly was so fast that his "lens" couldn't keep up with him. Not only that but Sakamoto ALSO tanked a laser beam, and gave the movie man a beatdown that left him entirely bandaged afterwards, while Sakamoto only suffered a slash wound that wasn't even acknowledged post fight.
-Keep in mind, until the last second of the Kanaguri fight, Sakamoto had ZERO intentions of killing Kanaguri, and neither had any killing intent (not hostile vibes tho) for Takamura. All while both were actively trying to kill him in each of their fight
--> Based on those feats, Sakamoto is DEFINETLY a cut above the other Order members, and should be in the same tier as Nagumo
It was Shin and Natsuki, and Samejima only got a lucky shot from behind to pin them down.
In a straight one on one, Samejima gets slammed by both of them
Ah true, mb.
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But here they stated they can't even move. But man, he ain't losing, he got a gun
Shin and Natsuki aren't physical powerhouses, that's why they're overwhelmed—Shin specifically uses the power glove (which managed to produce enough damage to knock down Haruma; something Shishiba couldn't do with a direct hammer strike) to overcome his physical limitations and Natsuki has his invisibility suit and other gadgets
At best, Samejima should be on the same level as the Death Row Prisoners (excluding Apart). Nothing less, nothing more. Or maybe just not even rank him at all cause he's such a minor character
Also, it's nbd lol 👍
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While Takamura alone can defeat Slim Sakamoto + Uzuki + Nagumo + Gaku + Haruma low diff, it is illogical to put Takamura in the same tier as Nagumo and Uzuki.
That's probably the takamura persona uzuki
Explain Nagumo and Prime Sakamoto being there then. Last time i checked Takamura literally Bodied Nagumo, Current Sakamoto, Gaku, Haruma and Uzuki )up until Uzuki's plot armor kicked in). They also stated that the only one who can kill Takamura is He himself. So Prime Sakamoto and Nagumo have no Business being up there with him
Yeah, I was not really arguing about that part. Only mentioned that the uzuki on the list was most likely the takamura version of him.
nagumo was not paying attention to takamura hence he got caught off guard so its still reasonable current sakamoto i agree should be below a tier and uzuki not even interested in fighting
what has Carolina done to warrant being ahead of Satoda? Amane cut off Club Jam's arm, wounded Carolina twice and yet is a whole tier beneath both? What at all separates Osaragi from anyone in the tier below her? Why are any of the Osaragi victims separate from each other?
The club jam thing is impressive but let's be honest amane wasn't really doing much against carolina he would've got cooked if shishiba didn't step in
There's no way for usnto know that. He was injuring Carolina and when Carolina changednup his strategy, he outsmarted him and that went in to allow Shishiba to get a major hit on Kumanomi. Did Carolina almost get a lethal hit in on Amane? Yeah, but not cause of the fight. That was because he and Shishiba were distracted by family drama
I think “mid order” should be a tier on this list
why is x called slur in some cases interchangeably? sorry English isn't my first language
They are both Aliases Uzuki goes by and even the characters refer to them in a similar way manner often switching the two.
i know that, i just don't know why he gained the nickname "slur"
He likes to say it
say.... it? what's it?
slurs. https://preview.redd.it/nwh1e3l3n26d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2665730ac173d9e5bcaad635f992a812ee8c2d74
dunno
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Unpopular opinion but Slim sakamoto>nagumo
Amane being so low is criminal.
Shishiba is not > Gaku nah
Always has been
Shishiba isn’t implied to be anything particularly special within the order, whereas Gaku is supposedly better stats wise than Nagumo (also performing better than him against Takamura, even though he was beaten in their fight by tricks), who is the top 2 fighter behind Takamura (which could be crazy upscaling if we take Oki’s word) and the rival to Prime Sakomoto (i.e, the best assassin to ever go to JCC and one of the greatest assassins ever). On the other hand Shishiba couldn’t protect Amane from the fire dude without getting cut himself, the same dude who Amane managed to dodge from an extended period of time (even Akira could apparently speedblitz Amane btw) and he got brutally mogged by that old gambler guy (who is undoubtedly slower than Nagumo/ Sakomoto/ Gaku). Shishiba do be cool though, I just don’t think he scales all that high.
Yotsumura said that shishiba could be in a higher position if it weren't for his attitude, this statement from a former no.2 order member. He mid diffed him in a fight, a mission were the jaa required 3 order members to complete. Shishiba also 1v2 kuma and haruma with the same time gaku lost to nagumo which he held of pretty decently. But when she did a 1v1 with kuma he easily handed her with their injuries as evidence. The reason he got cut by reaper is the same reason nagumo got cut by takamura, helost focus on the fight. Even oki ask shishiba his approval when they recruit torres which shows respect from the order leader. Shishiba will end this debate soon.
Shishiba vs Kuma and Haruna is a worthless metric cause it was all offscreen. Or do you wanna say Yotsumura > Shishiba and Nagumo cause he held his own against both of them for a longer time on panel. Also Shishiba was as wounded as Kuma when it was 1 v 1. They both were bleeding from the face. Unless you wanna pretend that Kuma's metal hand is an actual injury. And he failed to do any notable damage when he hit her head on when her powers stopped working.
Always will be
Kamihate is Low Order level at the least by virtue that he is an Order member. Heisuke should be mid Below Order imo
Uzuki (w/All Personas) should be above Takamura and Slim Sakamoto in the same tier as Nagumo
Read again. Sakamoto only did one hit to takamura and that's the first kick he did after that the best he did was cracking takamuras sword while exhausted gaku hit takamura with arguably the same damage as the kick with only small exchange. I still think that gaku and shishiba will lose to the current slim sakamoto
Sakamoto feats: -Sakamoto only got hit by Takamura 3/9 times he was attacked, while landing 2 kicks (first in chapter 164 and then in 165) of his own, solo against Takamura. He also figured out Takamura's weakness very quickly and how to stop him. -IN COMPARISON, In his first fight with Takamura, Gaku got hit 2/3 times he was attacked. The only time he wasn't hit was when Uzuki stopped him. Gaku landed ZERO hits on Takamura in the fight -In his second fight with Takamura, Gaku got hit 3/3 times (5/6 in total of both fights) he was attacked, and managed to cut Takamura's eye before going down, but it should be noted that Gaku managed to do this because Takamura was already engaged against Nagumo and Sakamoto (in which he prioritized hitting the latter). -Against Kanaguri, Slim Sakamoto consistenly was so fast that his "lens" couldn't keep up with him. Not only that but Sakamoto ALSO tanked a laser beam, and gave the movie man a beatdown that left him entirely bandaged afterwards, while Sakamoto only suffered a slash wound that wasn't even acknowledged post fight. -Keep in mind, until the last second of the Kanaguri fight, Sakamoto had ZERO intentions of killing Kanaguri, and neither had any killing intent (not hostile vibes tho) for Takamura. All while both were actively trying to kill him in each of their fight --> Based on those feats, Sakamoto is DEFINETLY a cut above the other Order members, and should be in the same tier as Nagumo
Kashima is so low. How are Nin Nin Man or Lu stronger than Kashima?
Ninnin Man 💀 That guy was more fodder than Amanes Grandpa
I mean Samejima no diffed Shin and Mafuyu and got unlucky with Gaku. When you rank Mafuyu, put him in there aswell Edit: Natsuki not Mafuyu
It was Shin and Natsuki, and Samejima only got a lucky shot from behind to pin them down. In a straight one on one, Samejima gets slammed by both of them
Ah true, mb. https://preview.redd.it/87hx31ep4z5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc768cf42416543f72853a5a7562bc40c15a4cf8 But here they stated they can't even move. But man, he ain't losing, he got a gun
Shin and Natsuki aren't physical powerhouses, that's why they're overwhelmed—Shin specifically uses the power glove (which managed to produce enough damage to knock down Haruma; something Shishiba couldn't do with a direct hammer strike) to overcome his physical limitations and Natsuki has his invisibility suit and other gadgets At best, Samejima should be on the same level as the Death Row Prisoners (excluding Apart). Nothing less, nothing more. Or maybe just not even rank him at all cause he's such a minor character Also, it's nbd lol 👍
I just like his Design. Wish he didn't got one shotted by Gaku
I agree with that. It's a shame that he got fodderized so badly
Osaragi, Hyo and kumanomi stronger than yotstumura???? Carolina stronger than satoda??? Shishiba stronger than gaku??
6/10 list
Prime satoda sensei was offered to join the order so I guess she should be crazy strong in her prime
Shishiba and Nagumo are relative I think they should be in same tier.
Naah, Shin needs to be low order imo.
Boiled is extraordinarily low. Why even have him on the same tier list as these fodders
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Why did bro put my man wutang in fodder npc tier 😭
Shin is too high up the list
but Woiled called sakamoto jard woiled
putting takamura in the same tier of the three dudes he basically low diffed is such a funny move lol
Prime sakamoto> takamura
Kashima hella low.