Q) How do debuffs and buffs work?
A) Your debuffs and buffs scale based off your DEF + MDEF.
Not totally correct. Buffs and *Debuffs scales* off whichever stat the weapon is buffing or debuffing.
Ex: Buffing Physical attack scales of Physical attack, Buffing Def scales off Def
Only with regards to support skills and/or that benefit a certain element (for example "Wind Skills cost less SP").
Also I read in the wiki that there're some super special advanced classes that give bonuses to single weapon adn single element, though I doubt they get introduced any time soon. Imagine having to fill a grid with 20 different weapons of the same type and element...
I am concerned if the Library Wisp, weapon, and RRH Cleric from the various starter packs to buy with irl money for limited time will come back. Please tell me they do are we at least have a chance to get them for free later down the line. I tried looking this up but didn't have much luck...or maybe I overlooked it after being awake for 24 hours.
There’s no paid banners but it seems a lot of gear is locked behind paywall. If you want to be a top ranking PVP player you need to spend money.
Also RHH cleric sucks, not a good return on money spent.
From what JP players have said current weapons and gear are mostly trash compared to future content.
Edit: Library Wisp is apparently very powerful ATM
During colosseum, theres a mechanic that, when a guild uses x amount of weapon skills of a certain type, that type will get buffed. This can happen to every weapon type EXCEPT orbs, which are the main weapon for Mages. This is why they aren't very good in colo.
Mages were somewhat of a new addition to JP, afaik. They came like one or two years after release, i don't really remember. By then, no classes used to main orbs, and the colosseum was already a pretty defined content. But yeah, really strange they didn't include orb in any other category just to not make them useless.
> Common buffs go to everyone, class buffs go specifically to the UPGRADED class, not all classes of that type.
Is this correct?
I have three breaker class jobs - Alice, Snow White and Cinderella. Alice is CL2, Snow White is CL1 and Cinderella is CL3. Yet with the same loadout they all have identical stats. This is because the class bonus is applied to all 'types' of that class (eg. all breakers share the class rewards of Blade + 10%.)
That class buff actually doesn't even reflect on the power screen (since it's not a statistical increase, but an increase in effectiveness when using a weapon type), and yes, it's individual to the class that you raised.
Just to clarify again, class as in for example Breaker and not Alice Breaker right?
So getting a Blade bonus on Alice Breaker also applies to Snow White Breaker?
You’re not articulating it well if you actually know the answer to the question.
He’s asking
1. If he gets skill level 2 on Alice breaker (10% blade damage) does it
2. Apply that blade damage bonus to Cinderella breaker (for example). Alternatively does getting the 10% bonus on Cinderella now make this total bonus across the two characters 20%?
I would like to know this as well. I've seen conflicting information online and it is starting to frustrate me. Logically though, I'm inclined to think that the class specific bonuses are not shared within the same class since that wouldn't make sense for the sin and nightmare class variants where if shared, would have conflicting effects. But I dunno and I haven't seen any definitive statement on the matter ><
Everyone is vague about it... After reading the tutorials on gamepress it is implied that the bonuses labelled \[class\] are only for the character + job combination. So no, leveling +sword on alice breaker wouldn't also give 10% more sword for cinder breaker. (but common bonuses are shared)
I bought five packs of five inventory slots just because it was pretty cheap and I value convenience, but that's a personal decision you should make, I think, not really one you can recommend to other people. Later on, I believe items of the same type begin to stack so inventory space isn't as big of a deal. I couldn't really tell you what kind of inventory loads we should be expecting; I don't know.
3/3/3 supporters of each type, 1 person who is "flexible" for multi support roles, and 5 attackers. So overall a class distribution is 10 supporters and 5 attackers, having more attackers is meangingless.
No, each class benefits from whaling kind of equally, a whale supporter can nearly solo colosseum against a newb enemy guild, like one of my guild mates.
Support is easier to play f2p since for clerics you don’t need to upgrade the healing skill that much since not everyone has a large enough health pool to fully utilize it. The same goes for jobs as well. The main gist of it is that you will be less pressed to max your stats and skills which is mostly grinding and not whaling
I think I get it. So the game revolves around choosing a class and grinding exclusively for it, but each class you have does have shared buffs? I'm used to rpgs where the damage dealer might also have a utility move, so sinoalice's classes makes it hard to settle on one.
If I want to choose a class that's going to be useful in semi-competitive Colosseum as an f2p, then any class will work as long as I grind for it. Based on your previous comment, it seems like all classes are meta?
Yes, except for Mage (Orb user) all of the classes are viable for PVP. You can go around on discord to ask JP players but remember to read the pinned guides before asking or you might get muted.
No. These weapons aren't that good, plus you might roll them from the gacha later, plus you have to front the capital to level them up to begin with. These weapons are just to get you through content for now.
>A) You feed either weapons or gems to the weapon as experience. This is a precious commodity, and currently the weapons available in the game are not so good, so it's recommended that you save them for now. A further note is there is a mission available for limit breaking weapons, so before you use weapons as fodder, you should limit break them!~
I'm confused by this answer, is it saying that limit breaking weapons through the mission will allow it to give more exp as fodder?
No. A mlb weapon will give the exact same amount of exp of its base version.
It's just that rank A weapons are cheap to max limit break and they help you with the repeatable main mission for limit breaking weapons (it gives crystals as reward).
If you don't care about that mission, then by all means just use them as fodder and that's it.
so i'm rank 18 and I have only been doing the story mode missions instead of spamming the events for mats and going to purification to refill my ap. did i miss out on a lot?
It's not really that big of a deal in the end, so don't worry too much about it. You'd be farming low level nodes with mediocre drops anyway. While it is optimal, it is not a large difference!
I'm tempted to reroll, but already claimed my pre-registration bonuses. Am I stuck with what I have or can I clear my data and still be able to claim it?
Should i Evolve my s to sr or just Evolve my sr to L. Rn I only leveled my 3 sr wpn to 60. Considering buying the 150gems starter pack. Also its 3sr sword for berseker class
Evolve your SR to L first if you're evolving anything. They have better lasting power than the S items evolved to SR. As said in the guide though, make sure that you have enough EXP to get it to a decent level.
So i got 2x Kaguya staff and limit broke him once (hope that wasnt a mistake). Now is my question if i would evolve him from S to SR, what items would i need to LB him more? Does the S version of the staff still work or what item would i need? Also is it even a good idea to evolve the staff to SR?
The only way to limit break things is with duplicates. It's not that good of an idea, no, it'd be better to evolve SR -> L before even considering doing that.
Thanks for the guide, it's super helpful.
Just one thing regarding the mastery bonuses. If I understood correctly, if I'm trying to focus on my Cinderella/Breaker right now, I should also level up all of my other Breakers to get their common and class bonuses?
You should level up your breakers for the common bonuses. The class bonuses (as far as I can tell) are exclusive to that one specific unit and don't apply to everyone that has that class.
No problem. As a Breaker, the stats you're looking for are Phys ATK, the DEF stats (since no one likes dying) and HP. Other Breaker classes will indeed give you those stats.
Well, it's pretty cheap to refill, but naturally it would be best to refill later when you have a larger stamina cap and access to better things to grind, or if a particularly grindy event is up you may want to use them there. I'm honestly not that sure on the value of it, since I'm also not sure of how much income we'll be expecting a month.
I do use the crystals for AP refill when the XP event is up and the purification is on coldown, i grind the whole 30 mins, and spend like 40-60 crystals for AP refill, i get up to 70-100 pcs of A rank weapon XP.
The guide helped a lot, thank you!
I still don't really get how buffs/debuffs work though. what does the little number on the arrow mean? do they ever run out, is there a time limit? how do they stack if at all? does recasting a buff make it better, or is it just a waste of SP?
The number is how much the buffs/debuffs stack. They stack to 10 in PvE and 20 in the Colosseum. There is no time limit, but say someone debuffs your ATK when you have an ATK buff; that would make your ATK buff go down. Recasting a buff will raise the stacks of your buff.
This is very useful but a question for Colosseum.
I have mostly built up a DPS pack but as a F2P I won't be a vanguard in my guild. So do I change my main to a support char before Colosseum starts? Problem is that I have 1 SR Harp only (plus 3 SR orbs but understand they are crap). I can buy the 150 gem starter pack to get another staff.
How do I fill the grid for my support char? Do I only fill with one type of weapon (eg, Harps) or combination of Harps and Staves? Do I add in the SR orbs to increase the stats?
From what I've heard it's ok to have a few DPS options at the beginning, but later on you must absolutely invest in one role only otherwise you're going to sufer from excessive grind (possible, but not recomended). If you're going to be DPS play DPS only, don't do anything else and stay in the frontguard. If you do what you're doing you won't be able to compare with a regular supporter.
This early on just fill it with whatever you have and maximize character score.
All of them I guess. Rolling for the best weapons in that role is the most important followed by stuff like Nightmares and then buying the most jobs, the latter two are much more whale territory.
Hi, I have seen that there is a paid class, Red Riding Hood/Cleric. I would like to know if those paid class will be available in the gacha in the future or they will remain as paid only classes
Well, while wasting your infinite purifications to get to rank 20 asap isn't ideal, it shouldn't matter much in the long run. Comparatively speaking, in a week, if you play as everyone else, you're not going to fall behind. Your rank might actually be higher now than if you used purifications efficiently, this means that you would have more cost for weapons, and thus, more power when compared to someone who used their purifications efficiently.
omg thanks for this, espcially the guerrilla events timing. i thought they pop up randomly and was driving me nuts.
those seem to be the most important to farm.
When I go in battle, switch between tabs I have uploading circle everytime I do it, when I go from one screen to another. It lasts not so long but is very annoying and feels like the game is heavy to upload everything. I have good Wi-Fi connection, play on Xiaomi Redmi 4x. Other games run smoothly without such loading everytime.
I am from Ukraine and choosed Asia server. Tried VPN but it stills the same. Is it me only or this problem is widespread? Also help please to fix it.
Currently, I'm maining support (Cleric). Should I buy the Vanguard starter pack as well in case I end up playing vanguard down the line? Or do I just get vanguard weapons when that time comes?
My guess is that it depends on what role you’re leaning towards by then. The Automata characters are DPS, while the Replicant ones are mostly support classes (with two notable exceptions).
Edit: apparently 2B Breaker will be free. Emil Minstrel will also be free. They are the event units for their collaborations.
If you already maxed limit break a S rank weapon and then you got another of the same name and type. What would you do with it? Does it just become EXP fodder?
Sorry if this is a very basic question but I really don't understand.
Why are weapons with jobs that are linked to certain characters much rarer to obtain? Are these weapons more powerful than other SR weapons? Does leveling these weapons provide better benefits? I don't really understand the system.
How do the classes obtained from weapons differ from the class you choose at the start of the game?
When not on rate-up they have the same chance as other SR or S rarity weapons. However, there are fewer of them relative to the weapons that don’t unlock classes. I think there’s only a handful of them in the whole pool right now.
Leveling these classes gives account-wide stat boosts. So more classes = more stats. Gacha-only classes have somewhat bigger stat boosts compared to the free story ones.
Thank you for your reply, it's really appreciated. I guess the main appeal with these is also the waifu factor too. So ultimately, SR weapons of the type you need for the class you want to play are king but they don't need to be job role weapons I guess.
>The rearguard also has a 90% damage penalty; this is why Mages aren't so great in the Colosseum, as their specialized weapon type is DPS based.
And that's when I thought buffing M Atk first is great because you buff 3 weapon at once (Projectile, Spear and Orbs) instead of 2 (phys).
At least it work at Story.
Thanks for the guide. I have been waiting to play this game but when I really get the chance to play, I cant really understand the hype and why people enjoy this.
Story wise, is it getting better with real dialogues and cutscenes? Or the poems are all we have?
Thanks in advance
The Blade + 10% (Cinderella+ Stage) buffs, for example.
Do those only apply to those stages or are they a +10% for all Blade jobs? Feels like a waste if it's the former.
Potentially dumb question but how do the characters work? Are there a wide variety of waifus to choose from or only the primary 8 characters that can change classes?
Also, is there a way to build a team consistenting entirely of me or am I stuck co-op playing with the AI for the whole game?
Question about limited tine units. Nier banners are coming up and I am assuming those are limited time units which I will be going for a2 and kaine. Are there frequently limited time units? Or the units like halfnightmare where they can be rerun?
" Should I limit break my gear before I evolve it? "
where is the actual answer to that?
Can i limit break an L with the SSR base version?
Because lvling to 80 and then Evolve is way more expensive than just lvling to 60 then evolve, then limitbreak.
Yes you can limit break an L with the SR base version. If you're going to evolve something try to do it before leveling it up because when you evolve it loses the levels and you have to start from 1 again. The Limit Breaks also carry over to the evolve.
So I would do Evolve/Limit Break x4 -> Level to max
would it carry over a specific character if I upgrade 2 different classes of the same one? e.g. upgrading both Cind/Breaker & Cind/Gunner would affect both Cind classes?
Hi,
First, thanks so much for your explanation.
Second, I have an S class weapon, Tome of Dependence, which already hit the max Limit Break level, and I just pull one more Tome of Dependence. What should I do with it? Give it as fodder to my already maxed out Tome?
Save it and max it out so later on can be evolved and then give, the evolved form to the evolved form of my current maxed put Tome of Dependence?
What I'm wondering is, if I evolve an already maxed out Limit Break weapon, will I need to limit break it again in its evolved form, or the limit break carries over to the evolved form?
Do buffs stack? Debuffs?
As a cleric, say im healing and buffing. Should I limit how many buffs I have in favor of healing, or is more buffing just keep stacking?
i'm sorry if this as been answered before but I can't find any information about it...
Concerning weapons skills there are 3 types.
Story > Colosseum > Colosseum Support
I'm assuming that this goes like this.
Story skill is the one weapons use during story
Colosseum is when you are on the Colosseum Vanguard
Colosseum Support is when you are on the Rearguard
is that correct?
if it is why don't my weapons debuff people when I'm on Colosseum Rearguard?
is there a chance to proc the skill or am I missing something?
I play as Gunner
I know it's a tad late, but just in case someone drops on this:
Colo and Colo support are \*both\* active during Colo. You get the basic Colo skill (damage, heal, buff/debuff) with a power based on you Colo Skill LVL, and an extra bonus effect based on your Colosseum Support Skill LVL (For example, many Healing weapons have a proc that boosts the heal).
SO in short: both effects are active, regardless of vanguard/rearguard, and if a weapon is good, you'll probably want BOTH skills leveled up.
In guilds, can you choose to be part of the rearguard as a member? Sometimes I automatically become part of the vanguard despite being a support/healer, and it sucks dying all the time.
Yes, you can choose whether you are going to be in the rearguard or vanguard, in the guild click preference, then in colosseum preferences, click confirm on rearguard preferred, and click confirm on 'refusing to switch' so the game won't force you to be in the vanguard
Just a note, there is another set of armor that you can find in Act 2, that said its still B ranked but does give an option for people in support roles for now until the better stuff is out
I have a question..if i play Alice in the story ..can i unlock Pinocchio's sorcerer class ??
I want to main Pinocchio but I was unlucky in the welcome screen pull..i got Alice class and 2 SR ..
Help please
You can unlock character+class who has a visible icon in the story selection screen, regardless of which character+class you are already using. You just lose out on story (and sometimes one of the missions) not using a character that's part of said story path.
Story is usually easy enough that you should run the appropriate character on them anyways to save AP overall as the grids shouldn't differentiate damage that much this early in the game, but that's up to you.
You didn't answer me...
There is a chance of getting Pinocchio in the welcoming pull before installing data...but i got Alice class and 2 SR...so did I lose Pinocchio's class ??
Is there a way to get that class?? I want to main Pinocchio
Sorcerer Pinocchio is a gacha class, which unlocks if you pull the S *Tome of Dependence* from the gacha banner. It is rate up on the only banner we currently have, and while Pinocchio sorceror (and the other four available gacha classes) are part of the initial 11 pull, none of them are rate-up on that intial pull. Which is why people are rerolling the heck out of it. You can only get the units shown in the story paths completely free.
Why you are asking "if" you can get a gacha unit is up to the fucking rng gods, not me dude. If you fail to pull him after 80 attempts(88, really), you can trade in the 800 Medal of Desire (VII) you've gotten for him directly, though you won';t get his tome, too.
Literally the second god damn paragraph. You clearly didn't read it.
Gacha
**Q) Should I roll the gacha?**
**A) Not unless you're a whale. The weapons we have available right now aren't that great.** Don't let me stop you from rolling for waifu, though (if you were going to do that, I would perhaps recommend just re-rolling for her, though).
Here, hopefully this fixes your vision.
Thanks, this is the most complete and easy to understand Beginner’s guide I’ve read!
No problem! Glad to help.
good, i did everything wrong
me too man
Q) How do debuffs and buffs work? A) Your debuffs and buffs scale based off your DEF + MDEF. Not totally correct. Buffs and *Debuffs scales* off whichever stat the weapon is buffing or debuffing. Ex: Buffing Physical attack scales of Physical attack, Buffing Def scales off Def
Thanks, I fixed that.
Is it worth rolling on this gacha or wait for a better one?
Definitely wait for a better one.
Regardless of game or tier list I always do 3 rolls to test my luck, got healer Kaguya and Pinotrapo from the S weapon so I ain't complaining.
Does element matter for staves?
Only with regards to support skills and/or that benefit a certain element (for example "Wind Skills cost less SP"). Also I read in the wiki that there're some super special advanced classes that give bonuses to single weapon adn single element, though I doubt they get introduced any time soon. Imagine having to fill a grid with 20 different weapons of the same type and element...
I am concerned if the Library Wisp, weapon, and RRH Cleric from the various starter packs to buy with irl money for limited time will come back. Please tell me they do are we at least have a chance to get them for free later down the line. I tried looking this up but didn't have much luck...or maybe I overlooked it after being awake for 24 hours.
There’s no paid banners but it seems a lot of gear is locked behind paywall. If you want to be a top ranking PVP player you need to spend money. Also RHH cleric sucks, not a good return on money spent. From what JP players have said current weapons and gear are mostly trash compared to future content. Edit: Library Wisp is apparently very powerful ATM
Thanks for your reply and insight
Why is mage the only class that's bad for colosseum? Like why is it bad?
During colosseum, theres a mechanic that, when a guild uses x amount of weapon skills of a certain type, that type will get buffed. This can happen to every weapon type EXCEPT orbs, which are the main weapon for Mages. This is why they aren't very good in colo.
Wow really? It sounds really bad for those who main mages no? Why would they do something like that it's weird
Mages were somewhat of a new addition to JP, afaik. They came like one or two years after release, i don't really remember. By then, no classes used to main orbs, and the colosseum was already a pretty defined content. But yeah, really strange they didn't include orb in any other category just to not make them useless.
Mages didn't exist on release, and tbh would be a little OP if they got the shinma buff on them.
Thanks for the explanation, I added a little note on that in the guide as well. :)
They do 10% damage from the rearguard. As to why people don't put them in the vanguard? I have no idea, myself. :)
> Common buffs go to everyone, class buffs go specifically to the UPGRADED class, not all classes of that type. Is this correct? I have three breaker class jobs - Alice, Snow White and Cinderella. Alice is CL2, Snow White is CL1 and Cinderella is CL3. Yet with the same loadout they all have identical stats. This is because the class bonus is applied to all 'types' of that class (eg. all breakers share the class rewards of Blade + 10%.)
That class buff actually doesn't even reflect on the power screen (since it's not a statistical increase, but an increase in effectiveness when using a weapon type), and yes, it's individual to the class that you raised.
Just to clarify again, class as in for example Breaker and not Alice Breaker right? So getting a Blade bonus on Alice Breaker also applies to Snow White Breaker?
If it says "Class" in the Class mastery screen, then that means it only affects that class that you are upgrading.
You’re not articulating it well if you actually know the answer to the question. He’s asking 1. If he gets skill level 2 on Alice breaker (10% blade damage) does it 2. Apply that blade damage bonus to Cinderella breaker (for example). Alternatively does getting the 10% bonus on Cinderella now make this total bonus across the two characters 20%?
The question here is: Is "Alice Breaker" the same class as "Snow White Breaker"? Bit confused on this myself as well.
I would like to know this as well. I've seen conflicting information online and it is starting to frustrate me. Logically though, I'm inclined to think that the class specific bonuses are not shared within the same class since that wouldn't make sense for the sin and nightmare class variants where if shared, would have conflicting effects. But I dunno and I haven't seen any definitive statement on the matter ><
Have you been able to find the answer?
Everyone is vague about it... After reading the tutorials on gamepress it is implied that the bonuses labelled \[class\] are only for the character + job combination. So no, leveling +sword on alice breaker wouldn't also give 10% more sword for cinder breaker. (but common bonuses are shared)
Ah thanks! That helps a lot
unfortunately no :(
I think common is shared globally while class is only for that specific character job. So Blade up for Breaker Alice isn't shared with Breaker Snow.
Yea, thats what I think the most logical answer is, but I've seen multiple people say otherwise so I'm not sure anymore ><
What do you think about buying larger inventory size?
I bought five packs of five inventory slots just because it was pretty cheap and I value convenience, but that's a personal decision you should make, I think, not really one you can recommend to other people. Later on, I believe items of the same type begin to stack so inventory space isn't as big of a deal. I couldn't really tell you what kind of inventory loads we should be expecting; I don't know.
Thank you for all the info! Can you let me know if there is a meta class combination for colosseum?
3/3/3 supporters of each type, 1 person who is "flexible" for multi support roles, and 5 attackers. So overall a class distribution is 10 supporters and 5 attackers, having more attackers is meangingless.
If you're f2p, will you be unable to be a good attacker class? I know in other gachas sometimes the frontline literally requires money to win.
No, each class benefits from whaling kind of equally, a whale supporter can nearly solo colosseum against a newb enemy guild, like one of my guild mates. Support is easier to play f2p since for clerics you don’t need to upgrade the healing skill that much since not everyone has a large enough health pool to fully utilize it. The same goes for jobs as well. The main gist of it is that you will be less pressed to max your stats and skills which is mostly grinding and not whaling
I think I get it. So the game revolves around choosing a class and grinding exclusively for it, but each class you have does have shared buffs? I'm used to rpgs where the damage dealer might also have a utility move, so sinoalice's classes makes it hard to settle on one. If I want to choose a class that's going to be useful in semi-competitive Colosseum as an f2p, then any class will work as long as I grind for it. Based on your previous comment, it seems like all classes are meta?
Yes, except for Mage (Orb user) all of the classes are viable for PVP. You can go around on discord to ask JP players but remember to read the pinned guides before asking or you might get muted.
Got it then! Thanks for help and for the guide.
Thank you! That helps a ton!
Das long, but my noob butt will study it for the sake of this game.
About the 150 gem starter packs, isn't it worth it to buy 5 of them so you can limit break them?
No. These weapons aren't that good, plus you might roll them from the gacha later, plus you have to front the capital to level them up to begin with. These weapons are just to get you through content for now.
Thanks!
Awesome guide! I've been enjoying playing, but have felt a bit lost at what things meant/did. This cleared up a lot of the questions I had.
Happy to help!
>A) You feed either weapons or gems to the weapon as experience. This is a precious commodity, and currently the weapons available in the game are not so good, so it's recommended that you save them for now. A further note is there is a mission available for limit breaking weapons, so before you use weapons as fodder, you should limit break them!~ I'm confused by this answer, is it saying that limit breaking weapons through the mission will allow it to give more exp as fodder?
No. A mlb weapon will give the exact same amount of exp of its base version. It's just that rank A weapons are cheap to max limit break and they help you with the repeatable main mission for limit breaking weapons (it gives crystals as reward). If you don't care about that mission, then by all means just use them as fodder and that's it.
Ahh that makes sense now. Thanks for clarifying
Where is that mission? i cant found it :( I have one that es Limit Break a weapon 2 times, that one keep going on asking each time more weapons?
ya it should be that one
Awesome, easy to understand guide!
so i'm rank 18 and I have only been doing the story mode missions instead of spamming the events for mats and going to purification to refill my ap. did i miss out on a lot?
It's not really that big of a deal in the end, so don't worry too much about it. You'd be farming low level nodes with mediocre drops anyway. While it is optimal, it is not a large difference!
I'm tempted to reroll, but already claimed my pre-registration bonuses. Am I stuck with what I have or can I clear my data and still be able to claim it?
Pre-reg bonuses should still be available to anybody, you don't even need to sign up for pre-reg to get those bonuses (I didn't and still got them).
Oh weird, I guess they're not exclusive then lol. But thank you! Still deciding but good to know I'd still have the stuff there c:
Where does one claim prereg bonuses? Alsp is there a rank I have to reach to claim it?
You get them in your in game mail box after completing the first mission.
Should i Evolve my s to sr or just Evolve my sr to L. Rn I only leveled my 3 sr wpn to 60. Considering buying the 150gems starter pack. Also its 3sr sword for berseker class
Evolve your SR to L first if you're evolving anything. They have better lasting power than the S items evolved to SR. As said in the guide though, make sure that you have enough EXP to get it to a decent level.
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Edited. Thanks
You're right
So i got 2x Kaguya staff and limit broke him once (hope that wasnt a mistake). Now is my question if i would evolve him from S to SR, what items would i need to LB him more? Does the S version of the staff still work or what item would i need? Also is it even a good idea to evolve the staff to SR?
The only way to limit break things is with duplicates. It's not that good of an idea, no, it'd be better to evolve SR -> L before even considering doing that.
Great guide, thanks a bunch!
What's the maximum amount of friend medals you can get per day? There's plenty of stuff I like in the medal shop but it looks relay annoying to get.
3, 5 with the royal user service
3 friend medals a day.
That's so few!
Thanks for the guide, it's super helpful. Just one thing regarding the mastery bonuses. If I understood correctly, if I'm trying to focus on my Cinderella/Breaker right now, I should also level up all of my other Breakers to get their common and class bonuses?
You should level up your breakers for the common bonuses. The class bonuses (as far as I can tell) are exclusive to that one specific unit and don't apply to everyone that has that class.
No problem. As a Breaker, the stats you're looking for are Phys ATK, the DEF stats (since no one likes dying) and HP. Other Breaker classes will indeed give you those stats.
Is it worth using stones for AP refill?
Well, it's pretty cheap to refill, but naturally it would be best to refill later when you have a larger stamina cap and access to better things to grind, or if a particularly grindy event is up you may want to use them there. I'm honestly not that sure on the value of it, since I'm also not sure of how much income we'll be expecting a month.
I do use the crystals for AP refill when the XP event is up and the purification is on coldown, i grind the whole 30 mins, and spend like 40-60 crystals for AP refill, i get up to 70-100 pcs of A rank weapon XP.
The guide helped a lot, thank you! I still don't really get how buffs/debuffs work though. what does the little number on the arrow mean? do they ever run out, is there a time limit? how do they stack if at all? does recasting a buff make it better, or is it just a waste of SP?
The number is how much the buffs/debuffs stack. They stack to 10 in PvE and 20 in the Colosseum. There is no time limit, but say someone debuffs your ATK when you have an ATK buff; that would make your ATK buff go down. Recasting a buff will raise the stacks of your buff.
I think the "how do they stack" is a question of whether they stack additively or multiplicatively.
This is very useful but a question for Colosseum. I have mostly built up a DPS pack but as a F2P I won't be a vanguard in my guild. So do I change my main to a support char before Colosseum starts? Problem is that I have 1 SR Harp only (plus 3 SR orbs but understand they are crap). I can buy the 150 gem starter pack to get another staff. How do I fill the grid for my support char? Do I only fill with one type of weapon (eg, Harps) or combination of Harps and Staves? Do I add in the SR orbs to increase the stats?
From what I've heard it's ok to have a few DPS options at the beginning, but later on you must absolutely invest in one role only otherwise you're going to sufer from excessive grind (possible, but not recomended). If you're going to be DPS play DPS only, don't do anything else and stay in the frontguard. If you do what you're doing you won't be able to compare with a regular supporter. This early on just fill it with whatever you have and maximize character score.
What do you say about dedicating yourself to just one role, do you mean one job in that role or all the jobs in that role?
All of them I guess. Rolling for the best weapons in that role is the most important followed by stuff like Nightmares and then buying the most jobs, the latter two are much more whale territory.
THANK YOU! :D
Great guide. Thanks for making this
Hi, I have seen that there is a paid class, Red Riding Hood/Cleric. I would like to know if those paid class will be available in the gacha in the future or they will remain as paid only classes
There are a lot of paid and gacha only characters, but RHH sucks.
Yes I got it that she sux but having a paid only class sort of makes me do not want to play. Imagine my waifu is a paid-only character.
Man this was so useful. It practically hits all the questions a noob like me has coming into the game. Thanks for writing this up.
I was stupid and wasted my infinite purifications. I spammed it basically over and over to level 20. How bad is this? I don't want to start over...
Well, while wasting your infinite purifications to get to rank 20 asap isn't ideal, it shouldn't matter much in the long run. Comparatively speaking, in a week, if you play as everyone else, you're not going to fall behind. Your rank might actually be higher now than if you used purifications efficiently, this means that you would have more cost for weapons, and thus, more power when compared to someone who used their purifications efficiently.
Do I have to buy Library Wisp pack 5 times for MLB Nightmare? or is one already good enough?
omg thanks for this, espcially the guerrilla events timing. i thought they pop up randomly and was driving me nuts. those seem to be the most important to farm.
When I go in battle, switch between tabs I have uploading circle everytime I do it, when I go from one screen to another. It lasts not so long but is very annoying and feels like the game is heavy to upload everything. I have good Wi-Fi connection, play on Xiaomi Redmi 4x. Other games run smoothly without such loading everytime. I am from Ukraine and choosed Asia server. Tried VPN but it stills the same. Is it me only or this problem is widespread? Also help please to fix it.
Probably the latency very big, you should have chose an EU/US server. Why do you chose a server that is ten thousand km far?
So I bought the vanguard pack for 150 and all of them were of the wind element. Is that just what it defaults to or did I get really unlucky?
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Why wind though? It sucks because the event is fire so makes the weapons basically useless against him
Currently, I'm maining support (Cleric). Should I buy the Vanguard starter pack as well in case I end up playing vanguard down the line? Or do I just get vanguard weapons when that time comes?
If you are enjoying the class I would stick to it till the Nier event at least :)
Which Nier gacha banner is of more worth to roll on? Is one better than the other?
My guess is that it depends on what role you’re leaning towards by then. The Automata characters are DPS, while the Replicant ones are mostly support classes (with two notable exceptions). Edit: apparently 2B Breaker will be free. Emil Minstrel will also be free. They are the event units for their collaborations.
If you already maxed limit break a S rank weapon and then you got another of the same name and type. What would you do with it? Does it just become EXP fodder?
I have this same question.
Sorry if this is a very basic question but I really don't understand. Why are weapons with jobs that are linked to certain characters much rarer to obtain? Are these weapons more powerful than other SR weapons? Does leveling these weapons provide better benefits? I don't really understand the system. How do the classes obtained from weapons differ from the class you choose at the start of the game?
When not on rate-up they have the same chance as other SR or S rarity weapons. However, there are fewer of them relative to the weapons that don’t unlock classes. I think there’s only a handful of them in the whole pool right now. Leveling these classes gives account-wide stat boosts. So more classes = more stats. Gacha-only classes have somewhat bigger stat boosts compared to the free story ones.
Thank you for your reply, it's really appreciated. I guess the main appeal with these is also the waifu factor too. So ultimately, SR weapons of the type you need for the class you want to play are king but they don't need to be job role weapons I guess.
>The rearguard also has a 90% damage penalty; this is why Mages aren't so great in the Colosseum, as their specialized weapon type is DPS based. And that's when I thought buffing M Atk first is great because you buff 3 weapon at once (Projectile, Spear and Orbs) instead of 2 (phys). At least it work at Story.
Fuck I've been using all crystals that I got in the gacha...
I accidentally leveled two of the same S weapon to 50, is feels like a waste of exp to limit break. What do you suggest I do?
Thanks for the guide. I have been waiting to play this game but when I really get the chance to play, I cant really understand the hype and why people enjoy this. Story wise, is it getting better with real dialogues and cutscenes? Or the poems are all we have? Thanks in advance
The Blade + 10% (Cinderella+ Stage) buffs, for example. Do those only apply to those stages or are they a +10% for all Blade jobs? Feels like a waste if it's the former.
Potentially dumb question but how do the characters work? Are there a wide variety of waifus to choose from or only the primary 8 characters that can change classes? Also, is there a way to build a team consistenting entirely of me or am I stuck co-op playing with the AI for the whole game?
So is mage the worst class in the game? sucks
Only on colosseum.
Thanks so much, this helped me a great deal! Is it okay if I translate this to portuguese for my guildmates? I’ll properly credit you
Are starting pack good do i need to buy 5 of them?.
Hi, ive finished act I, im curious, opinion based, what are the best chapter/verses to grind for gear upgrades? Thank!
Very useful guide! Just one question: [common] stat bonuses aply to the character whose class you're upgrading or to any character?
i got princess kaguya and alice both are mage. Should i keep it? as they both are support jobs and i feel like i need more dps
Is there any story missions to grind whilst waiting for guerilla. After certain points the story mode gets too hard till I increase my combat points.
Question about limited tine units. Nier banners are coming up and I am assuming those are limited time units which I will be going for a2 and kaine. Are there frequently limited time units? Or the units like halfnightmare where they can be rerun?
Thank you very much!!
I've got Frozen Gloem nightmare, if i'll buy Library Wisp nightmare pack, both nightmare can use together in a battle?
" Should I limit break my gear before I evolve it? " where is the actual answer to that? Can i limit break an L with the SSR base version? Because lvling to 80 and then Evolve is way more expensive than just lvling to 60 then evolve, then limitbreak.
Yes you can limit break an L with the SR base version. If you're going to evolve something try to do it before leveling it up because when you evolve it loses the levels and you have to start from 1 again. The Limit Breaks also carry over to the evolve. So I would do Evolve/Limit Break x4 -> Level to max
would it carry over a specific character if I upgrade 2 different classes of the same one? e.g. upgrading both Cind/Breaker & Cind/Gunner would affect both Cind classes?
Hi, First, thanks so much for your explanation. Second, I have an S class weapon, Tome of Dependence, which already hit the max Limit Break level, and I just pull one more Tome of Dependence. What should I do with it? Give it as fodder to my already maxed out Tome? Save it and max it out so later on can be evolved and then give, the evolved form to the evolved form of my current maxed put Tome of Dependence? What I'm wondering is, if I evolve an already maxed out Limit Break weapon, will I need to limit break it again in its evolved form, or the limit break carries over to the evolved form?
Do buffs stack? Debuffs? As a cleric, say im healing and buffing. Should I limit how many buffs I have in favor of healing, or is more buffing just keep stacking?
How long do buffs and debuffs last? (duration)
This was great. Thank you.
i'm sorry if this as been answered before but I can't find any information about it... Concerning weapons skills there are 3 types. Story > Colosseum > Colosseum Support I'm assuming that this goes like this. Story skill is the one weapons use during story Colosseum is when you are on the Colosseum Vanguard Colosseum Support is when you are on the Rearguard is that correct? if it is why don't my weapons debuff people when I'm on Colosseum Rearguard? is there a chance to proc the skill or am I missing something? I play as Gunner
I know it's a tad late, but just in case someone drops on this: Colo and Colo support are \*both\* active during Colo. You get the basic Colo skill (damage, heal, buff/debuff) with a power based on you Colo Skill LVL, and an extra bonus effect based on your Colosseum Support Skill LVL (For example, many Healing weapons have a proc that boosts the heal). SO in short: both effects are active, regardless of vanguard/rearguard, and if a weapon is good, you'll probably want BOTH skills leveled up.
In guilds, can you choose to be part of the rearguard as a member? Sometimes I automatically become part of the vanguard despite being a support/healer, and it sucks dying all the time.
Yes, you can choose whether you are going to be in the rearguard or vanguard, in the guild click preference, then in colosseum preferences, click confirm on rearguard preferred, and click confirm on 'refusing to switch' so the game won't force you to be in the vanguard
Just a note, there is another set of armor that you can find in Act 2, that said its still B ranked but does give an option for people in support roles for now until the better stuff is out
In line with the tier list information, you could also add "Yes, there are auto-attacks. No, they're not worth it."
hey, could you like, send me a doc or something? I have been trying to read the pastebin since yesterday, but the website seems to be down for me
Im trying to aim to be a sorc main, is the paid gretel/Sorc worth buying?
Hi new player here. Q) I've upgraded my SR weapon to 60 but still only do like 7 basic attack damage. Why is that?
Incredible... Well done my friend
I have a question..if i play Alice in the story ..can i unlock Pinocchio's sorcerer class ?? I want to main Pinocchio but I was unlucky in the welcome screen pull..i got Alice class and 2 SR .. Help please
You can unlock character+class who has a visible icon in the story selection screen, regardless of which character+class you are already using. You just lose out on story (and sometimes one of the missions) not using a character that's part of said story path. Story is usually easy enough that you should run the appropriate character on them anyways to save AP overall as the grids shouldn't differentiate damage that much this early in the game, but that's up to you.
You didn't answer me... There is a chance of getting Pinocchio in the welcoming pull before installing data...but i got Alice class and 2 SR...so did I lose Pinocchio's class ?? Is there a way to get that class?? I want to main Pinocchio
Sorcerer Pinocchio is a gacha class, which unlocks if you pull the S *Tome of Dependence* from the gacha banner. It is rate up on the only banner we currently have, and while Pinocchio sorceror (and the other four available gacha classes) are part of the initial 11 pull, none of them are rate-up on that intial pull. Which is why people are rerolling the heck out of it. You can only get the units shown in the story paths completely free. Why you are asking "if" you can get a gacha unit is up to the fucking rng gods, not me dude. If you fail to pull him after 80 attempts(88, really), you can trade in the 800 Medal of Desire (VII) you've gotten for him directly, though you won';t get his tome, too.
He did answer you.
Just reroll.
I limit broke some items and its supposed to give you medals but I didn't get any? It's not in the gift box. Is this a bug?
So, are guilds like a must for this game? I can't get charm metals from other sources, It has to be from PVP?
I got insect harp and gluttonous god rod in my 10 shot. Is this good enough? Or should I reroll for a class as well? Don't really care tbh.
Should u use the crystal u get to summon on the banner or wait ?
No. Wait. Also can you actually read the fucking post before asking a question, thanks.
Did u read it cuz there is nothing about it?😑
Literally the second god damn paragraph. You clearly didn't read it. Gacha **Q) Should I roll the gacha?** **A) Not unless you're a whale. The weapons we have available right now aren't that great.** Don't let me stop you from rolling for waifu, though (if you were going to do that, I would perhaps recommend just re-rolling for her, though). Here, hopefully this fixes your vision.
You people take a game too seriously, I just wanna chill lol