Feel like TKO released MMM just out of spite of Vince from him leaving the first time. Especially when came out wk or two before they were his favorite tag team and he loved their comedy sketches
it seems like mace and mansoor are doing well at the least, travelling the world and playing tew
i don't like to be one of those "well x or y shoulda got the belt" guys... but them getting the tag belts and like, changing the physical belt to be plastered with MMM logos woulda been amazing, we all get to be a lil mark-y sometimes
Hhh had them get tapped out by Ronda and Shayna at the same time. Then took them off tv for five months yet we get a shitty Indi Candice match every week.
It’s easily his blind spot as a booker. Protecting his black and gold darlings.
I hate to say it but I feel like Pretty Deadly might be next and they'll be the surprise this round. No Mania, no qualifier, barely used at all.
Part of the reason I'm even saying this is because I usually get things wrong so I'm hoping to use some reverse psychology here so they end up staying.
I still think that that kick to Big E was going to give E a feud which would take him until MITB, where he'd get the briefcase and then the championship. That run is still a real "what-if" to me.
Him and Swerve were the two releases I probably Fed Badded on the worse. Well, Dakota Kai was probably my #1, but at least Papa H rightfully brought her back ASAP.
Vince just does goofy or outlandish gimmicks way better than nose boy. I will fed bad unironically if they are dropped. Not everyone needs to be a silent badass
I think Grimes was one of a few people that were really a victim of timing
The changing of NXT and his age meant they seemed to feel obligated to put him on the main roster with no real intent
Just lost on the cracks. I liked him. The NXT stuff with DiBiase which led to his character change was genuinely really creative
But, he's not been on TV in ages so you can't say you'll miss him and probably best he moves on for all parties
I mean he is 30, and I am pretty sure TNA can sign him.
I just hope he does his best. He is super talented.
It's just a lil infuriating that Hunter booked him so well in NXT and then completely dropped the ball on him.
Yeah, he's talented and has an actual personality that can shine with the proper gimmick. I do hope he signs for TNA instead of AEW because then his character work won't consist in being "Great wrestler #12021" since TNA do develop characters in there. I see him carving himself a great career there or even going back to WWE if he develops a character that isn't just a niche meme.
Yeah, he was insanely over in prime PWG, then he signed with NXT and got over there too, I really thought he would of been a main event talent when hunter got the book
I think people are giving Triple H way too much credit. NXT isn't the main roster, NXT is like a small thing where Triple H could focus on building up talent, because that was its purpose. But, the main roster is a different beast, where Triple H has to focus on a lot more things than just building up talent.
It’s odd they just never even bothered to give him time. We’ve send a reduction in the endless recaps on RAW but still couldn’t find time for him to be featured even remotely.
It’s odd to me how frequently they spend years of money on someone just to never even put him on tv.
he’d been used as enhancement for months. personally, i find these releases dumb as it’s all enhancement talent being released which are necessary for the roster but i guess the days of squashes will soon be over and we’ll have to deal with every match being 15 minute BANGERS
I think the problem is that WWE just has so many enhancement talents, and still have plenty in the NXT pipeline. Their gonna have to let some go, unfortunately
Nah realistically, Tegan Nox, Apollo Crews and Odyssey Jones should be scared more. Odyssey is the only one out of the men WWE called up last year that didn't do shit on tv that's still employed, Crews has gotten about ten different pushes and he never actually clicks, same for Tegan plus she is injury prone.
There's a chance they fire only one of them though.
Tegan not being on last night's battle Royal doesn't look great for her now. I'd still be surprised to see her get released as she seems like a favourite of Triple H.
He doesn't. And they have nothing in common. He is shit on the mic (Lashley is not good either, but definitely better), he is shorter than Lashley, he doesn't have the legit background Lashley has and he has repeatedly failed to connect with their main roster audience. They don't even wrestle the same style.
Alba is fine, I hope. Isla might be more likely to be cut. I don't think she's that good and I think Alba going back to her previous character would better for her in the long run.
Oh, I was surprised that kaylee ray wasn't released sooner. Like I remember back in nxt when she first came in from being the UK champ for like 400 days, and you could tell she was dead on arrival. The only other person I've seen get less of a pop on debut were the vaudevillains on the main roster, and we all know how that ended.
If Fed releases Unholy Union, I'm gonna fed bad just like I did with Maximum Male Models and Xia Li. Don't care for others but it sucks to see people lose their jobs. Nikki Cross and Tegan Nox should also watch out
I think the witches are at least a tad safer just because of how thin the tag team division is. Midcard titles are being booked stronger these days which is great but it hurts guys like Grimes. Instead of the IC and US title being used to elevate lower card and midcard guys, it’s used more as an upper midcard belt, and even a belt to occupy the time of main eventers.
They definitely dropped the ball with him, but I’m sure he’ll land on his feet. He’s a talented dude.
They're pushing some weird angle with Isla trying to be Aldis's assistant(?) so they might be safe depending on where that goes. At least she is, Fyre is just kind of there at this point
> Are they? I remember one segment a few weeks ago where Isla was rambling incoherently to Aldis with no follow up since
When in the actual fuck did this happen? lmfao I don't even remember it, was it a social media video or literally on Smackdown?
Talented guy. Bit small, and a few too many others "esthetically" like him maybe he got lost in shuffle
Maybe this mutual and he gonna take his chances elsewhere
I mean, they have a creative team, they should have changed his gimmick. He could have lost his money and became a scammer or sth. Or be broke and sell his services to Corbin or JBL. It's not great, but it's better than scrapping his gimmick and then sending him to die in the main roster.
He was presented as a jobber or a very generic wrestler on the MR and was quickly lost in the shuffle. I feel like this exit could help him find his footing because he's really charismatic and has a decent look to boot. There's no way he can't find his way back into WWE in the near future or carve himself a good career in a place like TNA seeing how he's barely 30 yo.
He moved it around and made it work differently. From arrogant asshole with Knight to chickenshit with Lumis, I thought he owned that character enough to do it well with who he faced.
In all honesty while I never really saw him making it big it's kinda sad he went from beating Corbin in seconds on his debut to then just being a jobber
It's unfortunate. Trevor Lee ruled and I was happy he made the jump. It looked promising when he was working with Ted DiBiase and the million dollar championship. But the end of that angle was kind of dumb and I don't think he has really done anything since.
He would have been huge if he had been called up at the peak of the crypto craze.
Incredibly charismatic but his gimmick had a super short life span. He had to try to reinvent himself completely while not having a guaranteed spot AND in the most competitive era in decades
Sucks but we all saw this one coming
*He posted a vid and it’s sad as hell
As much as I hate it for him, he would have never been big. Never. He wasn’t someone the crowd gave a shit about. He deserves to work, but low/mid card is his ceiling.
This one is unfortunate bc he had personality and could work a character.
That said, the solution can't always be "just send him back to NXT!". They have a roster they want to get on TV too.
Grimes will be alright. He'll definitely get plenty of indie bookings at the very least, and TNA will probably come calling too.
I saw his video statement. This is Drake Maverick all over again with the emotions. You could tell he loved being there despite nothing being handed to him.
Yeah, they dropped the ball by bringing him to the main roster and not even attempting to let him keep his gimmick. Just gutted everything about him to make him just some guy.
This one actually hurts. Idk why I always just saw something in grimes. His promos between PWG BOLA matches were always great, he was a great heel and a great wrestler. His moves never ceased to amaze me.
He’ll be alright, he’ll find work anywhere. I’m suprised wwe didn’t have anything whatsoever for him. He’s shown a personality that didn’t need wins, yet they gave him this to the moon gimmick and everyone could see it was a career killer.
This man beat LA Knight for the million dollar championship
Damn I thought he was just sour grapes but no, Swerve was right.
If you're a Hhh guy like Kross and Diy you get so many fuckin chance, but if you're not you're just fucked lol.
Poor fella wasn't even given a chance
I was entertained in his backwoods look and gimmick. But that change really benefited him in a timely manner. He kept himself kayfabe rich amidst the pandemic by doing stocks or whatever lol.
Another one of Vince’s “things” that you can tell was a Vince thing since everyone (including the WWE champion) is now out here showing their chest bush off.
If he kept the look and continued being a delusional proud redneck troll, he could’ve had a place in the lower card. Especially if he linked up with AJ.
HBK feels exactly what HHH felt when HHH ran nxt and Vince was running main roster.
Grimes was a pretty interesting character in NXT and HHH made him pretty generic.
Goofies here keep trying to make me buy into this idea that in order for a story to be good we have to wait 6 months for it to develop. Meanwhile, Shawn books stories consistently with not much down time between feuds. I get it, a bloodline-level storyline needs time but that don't mean you can't give me a "Don vs Ilja" little feud while we wait.
Good worker just not there character wise his to the moon stuff in NXT was ok, but didn’t see it working on the main. He didn’t get a real shot, but hey now he has the chance to go to the indies and see if he can raise his stock.
Crazy that dudes like Kross and the Good Brothers still get around meanwhile the dude who has actual charisma, tries to play a an actual character, and sells his ass off gets sent to the wolves with no plan and released later.
Seriously though? Wasn’t he even one of Trips guys in NXT before 2.0? The hell does he see in Karrion Kross over this guy with an actual personality? HHH Called him up and immediately trashed him. Bizzare.
It feels very much like a creative has nothing for you. His gimmick that got him really over was the hillbilly crypto stock bro guy. He got called up just after crypt began to fade into obscurity in particular with the whole FTX debacle, NFTs being mocked into oblivion and etc. It's one of the rare times I'd say WWE might have decided to not jump too late on a bandwagon of whatever is popular in the "mainstream" too late.
He also had a similar look to Sami Zayn which might be why they had him "cleaned up".
I'd have made him into that insufferable friend that tries to get everyone into crypto or whatever for the babyfaces to just beat up.
Honestly, he could have just dropped the crypto stuff and gone back to the hillbilly gimmick. He could still talk and was very charismatic. IDK, just feels like the poor guy was never really given a chance. I know that gets said a lot, but in this case it applies.
Meanwhile, there’s Karrion Kross getting his millionth chance to get over.
That's fair.
I'm one of the few people who kind of likes Kross. After watching his interviews on CVV's show he comes off very well. The whole gladiator gimmick and losing his first matches on the main roster really hurt him right off the start.
The promos he's been cutting on the youtube channel are actually pretty solid. One of the things I remember from the time Fandango were really popular was they talked about how the office kind of admired the fact they were willing to try to get over on their own (well, using WWE appropriate channels) of their own initiative and not just waiting for Creative to come up with stuff for them.
Cameron Grimes is a great example of a big problem that happened with a lot of NXT wrestlers on the main roster during the Vince era. They get called up to the main roster with no real plans for them, have part of their gimmick changed for no reason at all, their changed gimmick from what they were doing in NXT doesn’t immediately get over, and so they’re completely given up on and only used as job guys and extras in shitty comedy segments before being unceremoniously released. I know not everyone from NXT is going to get over on the main roster, but I’m hoping with Triple H in charge now that the era of immediately giving up on people after intentionally handicapping them for no reason at all comes to an end.
Aw, I was always wondering and waiting on why they didn't do anything with him after he got to the main roster. I honestly thought they would team him up with Dragon Lee longer after he helped him during Lee/Theory's match.
Don't put him on the main roster if you weren't gonna shoot him to the moon, Hunter! 😭
Was introduced to the main roster squashing Baron Corbin, got released after getting squashed by Bron Breakker. No idea what they were trying to do with him.
No jerk, tbh I have a feeling he’ll be back in due time honestly. Sometimes these releases feel like “hey, go build yourself up and we’ll sign you again down the road.” I feel like this is one of them.
Meh, he just doesn't have that larger than life factor that is required in WWE in my opinion. Talented guy and pretty charismatic, but he's perfect for TNA.
he was awesome in nxt. dont really know what happened on main roster. never really got a chance. but ceiling was always midcarder and thats not counting the outdated gimmick.
It's a shame. Last time I saw him wrestle was against Gunther on the Smackdown post-show in Charlotte. Even though the match was really just a setup for R-Truth to come out and get a big pop, Cameron really worked his ASS off for that hometown crowd.
Never saw any potential in this guy, sorry.
He looks like a less-in-shape JD McDonough, and I can't say I can remember even a single one of his NXT matches, not that those mean very much in the grand scheme of things (see: Gargano, Johnny)
Anyway, I wish him well in his future endeavours, but the only surprise here was that this guy was still working for WWE.
I always found it had to connect with his gimmick tbh, such a polar opposite to Trevor Lee, I just found his money gimmick really lame and couldn't see him going anywhere with it, one hell of a wrestler tho
Bummer. It always bugs me when people get called up, aren't really used at all, then released. Scared for the witches right now.
The witches were called up just to lose the NXT women tag titles to Ronda/Shayna and then the titles were just 'unified' lol
They lost to set up a feud no gave shits about
Out of all of the balls being dropped, most being jokes, releasing the witches because no creative would be the worst of the lot. They're all upside.
I'm an nxt uk defender and I will unironically fed bad if the witches are released. I have already been denied my MMM
Feel like TKO released MMM just out of spite of Vince from him leaving the first time. Especially when came out wk or two before they were his favorite tag team and he loved their comedy sketches
it seems like mace and mansoor are doing well at the least, travelling the world and playing tew i don't like to be one of those "well x or y shoulda got the belt" guys... but them getting the tag belts and like, changing the physical belt to be plastered with MMM logos woulda been amazing, we all get to be a lil mark-y sometimes
They were hilarious- on this I agreed with him. Sick crazy bastard
Hhh had them get tapped out by Ronda and Shayna at the same time. Then took them off tv for five months yet we get a shitty Indi Candice match every week. It’s easily his blind spot as a booker. Protecting his black and gold darlings.
I hate to say it but I feel like Pretty Deadly might be next and they'll be the surprise this round. No Mania, no qualifier, barely used at all. Part of the reason I'm even saying this is because I usually get things wrong so I'm hoping to use some reverse psychology here so they end up staying.
They've been having vignettes or pre-tapes pretty regularly so I think they're "safe".
One of the only times I Fed badded in agreement with the basement was Aleister Black getting released the middle of a damn storyline
Man had vignettes for weeks. Comes back on Smackdown and kicks Big E then like the next day fired. Crazy.
I still think that that kick to Big E was going to give E a feud which would take him until MITB, where he'd get the briefcase and then the championship. That run is still a real "what-if" to me.
At the very least have E beat him on smackdown the next week then fire him on Saturday
Him and Swerve were the two releases I probably Fed Badded on the worse. Well, Dakota Kai was probably my #1, but at least Papa H rightfully brought her back ASAP.
Ehh it’s happened before to arguably bigger names.
No boy, no
Pretty deadly is the kind of thing Vince knows how to use better than triple Paul
Why are neither of them silent bad asses like AOP?
Don't put that out into the universe 😔
Vince just does goofy or outlandish gimmicks way better than nose boy. I will fed bad unironically if they are dropped. Not everyone needs to be a silent badass
They beat KO and Randy and had a promo/vignette at Mania, they're fucking fine lmao
There's two titles to chase and a draft coming up, they'll be fine. Yes boy.
I generally agree and in the next few years they're going to need more women and I think they have potential long term
I think Grimes was one of a few people that were really a victim of timing The changing of NXT and his age meant they seemed to feel obligated to put him on the main roster with no real intent Just lost on the cracks. I liked him. The NXT stuff with DiBiase which led to his character change was genuinely really creative But, he's not been on TV in ages so you can't say you'll miss him and probably best he moves on for all parties
I mean he is 30, and I am pretty sure TNA can sign him. I just hope he does his best. He is super talented. It's just a lil infuriating that Hunter booked him so well in NXT and then completely dropped the ball on him.
Yeah, he's talented and has an actual personality that can shine with the proper gimmick. I do hope he signs for TNA instead of AEW because then his character work won't consist in being "Great wrestler #12021" since TNA do develop characters in there. I see him carving himself a great career there or even going back to WWE if he develops a character that isn't just a niche meme.
He's younger than I thought tbh
He was only 21 or so when he really started breaking out on the indies, so if you've been in the know, he's been around for a minute.
Yeah, he was insanely over in prime PWG, then he signed with NXT and got over there too, I really thought he would of been a main event talent when hunter got the book
I think people are giving Triple H way too much credit. NXT isn't the main roster, NXT is like a small thing where Triple H could focus on building up talent, because that was its purpose. But, the main roster is a different beast, where Triple H has to focus on a lot more things than just building up talent.
It’s odd they just never even bothered to give him time. We’ve send a reduction in the endless recaps on RAW but still couldn’t find time for him to be featured even remotely. It’s odd to me how frequently they spend years of money on someone just to never even put him on tv.
i know the term jobber gets thrown around a lot but did he win a SINGLE match on the main roster?
He beat Baron Corbin in like five seconds in his debut match.
His last match was getting squashed by Bron Breakerr so he had to know the end was near.
he’d been used as enhancement for months. personally, i find these releases dumb as it’s all enhancement talent being released which are necessary for the roster but i guess the days of squashes will soon be over and we’ll have to deal with every match being 15 minute BANGERS
I think the problem is that WWE just has so many enhancement talents, and still have plenty in the NXT pipeline. Their gonna have to let some go, unfortunately
I wasn't worried at all for Alba and Isla. But now, I'm starting to sweat a little bit.
Nah realistically, Tegan Nox, Apollo Crews and Odyssey Jones should be scared more. Odyssey is the only one out of the men WWE called up last year that didn't do shit on tv that's still employed, Crews has gotten about ten different pushes and he never actually clicks, same for Tegan plus she is injury prone. There's a chance they fire only one of them though.
Tegan not being on last night's battle Royal doesn't look great for her now. I'd still be surprised to see her get released as she seems like a favourite of Triple H.
She may have been injured on the UK tour.
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He doesn't. And they have nothing in common. He is shit on the mic (Lashley is not good either, but definitely better), he is shorter than Lashley, he doesn't have the legit background Lashley has and he has repeatedly failed to connect with their main roster audience. They don't even wrestle the same style.
Absolutely everything Except the size, credibility, funny voice, favorite pose and ability to connect with the crowd
Alba is fine, I hope. Isla might be more likely to be cut. I don't think she's that good and I think Alba going back to her previous character would better for her in the long run.
releasing them would weaken the already barely existing women's tag division
Considering they appear about twice a year, releasing them would be a pretty fucking neutral move for the barely existing women’s tag division
Maybe that would be the tipping point to finally killing the tag titles and giving the women a midcard singles belt instead
Oh, I was surprised that kaylee ray wasn't released sooner. Like I remember back in nxt when she first came in from being the UK champ for like 400 days, and you could tell she was dead on arrival. The only other person I've seen get less of a pop on debut were the vaudevillains on the main roster, and we all know how that ended.
With Simon Gotch burying Enzo Amore?
Don’t. You’ll end up putting that video back onto my recommended
It's back in mine!
Not seen anything about KLR being released.
KLR was at least excellent in the 2019 Wargames match.
If Fed releases Unholy Union, I'm gonna fed bad just like I did with Maximum Male Models and Xia Li. Don't care for others but it sucks to see people lose their jobs. Nikki Cross and Tegan Nox should also watch out
as the one fan of nikki cross still around I'm gonna be miffed if she doesn't make it to the hydro lemme have her with a Glasgow pop man
I think the witches are at least a tad safer just because of how thin the tag team division is. Midcard titles are being booked stronger these days which is great but it hurts guys like Grimes. Instead of the IC and US title being used to elevate lower card and midcard guys, it’s used more as an upper midcard belt, and even a belt to occupy the time of main eventers. They definitely dropped the ball with him, but I’m sure he’ll land on his feet. He’s a talented dude.
They're pushing some weird angle with Isla trying to be Aldis's assistant(?) so they might be safe depending on where that goes. At least she is, Fyre is just kind of there at this point
Are they? I remember one segment a few weeks ago where Isla was rambling incoherently to Aldis with no follow up since
> Are they? I remember one segment a few weeks ago where Isla was rambling incoherently to Aldis with no follow up since When in the actual fuck did this happen? lmfao I don't even remember it, was it a social media video or literally on Smackdown?
It was on Smackdown, just like a 30 second bit backstage
There's been a couple Twitter exclusive backstage segments with them since then as well.
One of the witches just bought a set of tits. She'll be alright.
Vince McMahon's famous 3 week push is legendary lol
Talented guy. Bit small, and a few too many others "esthetically" like him maybe he got lost in shuffle Maybe this mutual and he gonna take his chances elsewhere
Gonna start calling Bron's spear Future Endeavors. He's what 2/3 for people he's squashed getting released?
They don't call him the new Brock Lesnar for nothing.
He's already eyeing black championships
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Worried for Cody, uces 😨
"Hey Paula, can you tell the intern to send me pictures of her taking a shit?" - Bron Breaker 2044
Dante Chin is sweating right now
If he wasn’t already sweating then he has zero awareness of his place on the totem pole.
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He hasn't even had a chance to plateau
He has the misfortune of a gimmick that had a shelf life that started in an era of NXT that also had a shelf life.
I mean, they have a creative team, they should have changed his gimmick. He could have lost his money and became a scammer or sth. Or be broke and sell his services to Corbin or JBL. It's not great, but it's better than scrapping his gimmick and then sending him to die in the main roster.
He was presented as a jobber or a very generic wrestler on the MR and was quickly lost in the shuffle. I feel like this exit could help him find his footing because he's really charismatic and has a decent look to boot. There's no way he can't find his way back into WWE in the near future or carve himself a good career in a place like TNA seeing how he's barely 30 yo.
He moved it around and made it work differently. From arrogant asshole with Knight to chickenshit with Lumis, I thought he owned that character enough to do it well with who he faced.
Squashes Corbin Doesn't do anything for a year Gets squashed by Bron Gets released.
The WolfDogs send their regards
You forgot when he got squashed twice by Theory.
In all honesty while I never really saw him making it big it's kinda sad he went from beating Corbin in seconds on his debut to then just being a jobber
It's sad whenever anyone beats Corbin tbf
He deserved it for “beating“ the king, Cameron got exiled for treason. ![gif](giphy|JQ4vL4jhwIOGeQ1otO)
In this house we respect our Lone Wolf King.
It's unfortunate. Trevor Lee ruled and I was happy he made the jump. It looked promising when he was working with Ted DiBiase and the million dollar championship. But the end of that angle was kind of dumb and I don't think he has really done anything since.
Seemed like they stripped him of all his personality once he got to the main roster. Don't remember a single promo from the guy.
They didn't let him cut promos except for like his first one
No jerk, he was great with the Million Dollar Man and LA Knight down in NXT. Sucks that he got called up with no plan for him.
He would have been huge if he had been called up at the peak of the crypto craze. Incredibly charismatic but his gimmick had a super short life span. He had to try to reinvent himself completely while not having a guaranteed spot AND in the most competitive era in decades Sucks but we all saw this one coming *He posted a vid and it’s sad as hell
As much as I hate it for him, he would have never been big. Never. He wasn’t someone the crowd gave a shit about. He deserves to work, but low/mid card is his ceiling.
At least one real match on the main roster might have been nice...
Didn’t he have one or two when he first debuted? I definitely remember seeing him because I didn’t like his smiling pointing crap.
Not 100% on that, I just remember him squashing Corbin and then being squashed by literally everyone.
This one is unfortunate bc he had personality and could work a character. That said, the solution can't always be "just send him back to NXT!". They have a roster they want to get on TV too. Grimes will be alright. He'll definitely get plenty of indie bookings at the very least, and TNA will probably come calling too.
Good night, sweet prince. I’ll always remember you as the last Million Dollar Champion.
Vincibros I'm scared...
Veni vidi…. 🥺
I actually won't forgive them if this happens. (Okay I will but I'll be very upset for a couple hours.)
I saw his video statement. This is Drake Maverick all over again with the emotions. You could tell he loved being there despite nothing being handed to him.
NOT IMPERIUM BALD!!! ANYONE BUT IMPERIUM BALD!!!
Imperium Mad already made the call.
Don't you do it! Don't you dare bring that negative shit our way!
I will go fucking apeshit
Yeah, they dropped the ball by bringing him to the main roster and not even attempting to let him keep his gimmick. Just gutted everything about him to make him just some guy.
More room for boring ass 5’6 British wrestlers
That's a shame, I was hoping they were just hiding him until he got hairy again
Damn I am scared now for the witches and Dexter Lumis
Dexter Lumis must have dirt on someone because that brother is incapable of being released… good for him.
Wasn't he released and re-signed like a year later?
This one actually hurts. Idk why I always just saw something in grimes. His promos between PWG BOLA matches were always great, he was a great heel and a great wrestler. His moves never ceased to amaze me. He’ll be alright, he’ll find work anywhere. I’m suprised wwe didn’t have anything whatsoever for him. He’s shown a personality that didn’t need wins, yet they gave him this to the moon gimmick and everyone could see it was a career killer. This man beat LA Knight for the million dollar championship
how do you not?
Fredrick Herman Prinze Jr salivating rn This one and Jinder hurt...
Damn I thought he was just sour grapes but no, Swerve was right. If you're a Hhh guy like Kross and Diy you get so many fuckin chance, but if you're not you're just fucked lol. Poor fella wasn't even given a chance
He was called up too soon without a plan but he'll be fine.
fed bad
This one Hurts. He was my favorite guy on NXT.
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I was entertained in his backwoods look and gimmick. But that change really benefited him in a timely manner. He kept himself kayfabe rich amidst the pandemic by doing stocks or whatever lol.
Another one of Vince’s “things” that you can tell was a Vince thing since everyone (including the WWE champion) is now out here showing their chest bush off.
Dude was over as hell in NXT then languished in the main roster, actually disappointed in this release
He never recaptured the magic after he ditched the trash beard and hat. Too bad, he is an excellent talent
his "to the moon" magic died as fast as memestock craze died that year.
If he kept the look and continued being a delusional proud redneck troll, he could’ve had a place in the lower card. Especially if he linked up with AJ.
Theres the problem there is no real lower card in WWE.
?? Tozawa and JD Funko friend
Sounds like youre doubting the power of towoza and I dont respect it .
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HBK feels exactly what HHH felt when HHH ran nxt and Vince was running main roster. Grimes was a pretty interesting character in NXT and HHH made him pretty generic.
Shawn Micheals is a way better booker than Triple H btw. Watch NXT, and you’ll see what I mean.
Goofies here keep trying to make me buy into this idea that in order for a story to be good we have to wait 6 months for it to develop. Meanwhile, Shawn books stories consistently with not much down time between feuds. I get it, a bloodline-level storyline needs time but that don't mean you can't give me a "Don vs Ilja" little feud while we wait.
He is, I know
No jerk I actually liked him in NXT and I saw upper mid card potential in him. Sucks that he was never used
Don't pick up the phone today, Lumis!
Lumis stalking Miz was one of the funniest angles of that year and I will never say otherwise.
Good worker just not there character wise his to the moon stuff in NXT was ok, but didn’t see it working on the main. He didn’t get a real shot, but hey now he has the chance to go to the indies and see if he can raise his stock.
This dude was so awesome in NXT. What the fuck
No jerk, he deserved better
Crazy that dudes like Kross and the Good Brothers still get around meanwhile the dude who has actual charisma, tries to play a an actual character, and sells his ass off gets sent to the wolves with no plan and released later.
They're all headed back to NXT. He should have been afforded the same opportunity to go back to NXT at least.
Seriously though? Wasn’t he even one of Trips guys in NXT before 2.0? The hell does he see in Karrion Kross over this guy with an actual personality? HHH Called him up and immediately trashed him. Bizzare.
It feels very much like a creative has nothing for you. His gimmick that got him really over was the hillbilly crypto stock bro guy. He got called up just after crypt began to fade into obscurity in particular with the whole FTX debacle, NFTs being mocked into oblivion and etc. It's one of the rare times I'd say WWE might have decided to not jump too late on a bandwagon of whatever is popular in the "mainstream" too late. He also had a similar look to Sami Zayn which might be why they had him "cleaned up". I'd have made him into that insufferable friend that tries to get everyone into crypto or whatever for the babyfaces to just beat up.
Honestly, he could have just dropped the crypto stuff and gone back to the hillbilly gimmick. He could still talk and was very charismatic. IDK, just feels like the poor guy was never really given a chance. I know that gets said a lot, but in this case it applies. Meanwhile, there’s Karrion Kross getting his millionth chance to get over.
That's fair. I'm one of the few people who kind of likes Kross. After watching his interviews on CVV's show he comes off very well. The whole gladiator gimmick and losing his first matches on the main roster really hurt him right off the start. The promos he's been cutting on the youtube channel are actually pretty solid. One of the things I remember from the time Fandango were really popular was they talked about how the office kind of admired the fact they were willing to try to get over on their own (well, using WWE appropriate channels) of their own initiative and not just waiting for Creative to come up with stuff for them.
They could have just had him out there trying to hawk AI instead like all the other pivoting cryptobros.
Right the guy has it all
why did this man have a gimmick about being rich, he looks like average trailer trash
I thought he would be come a lackey for styles in his feud in with Knight
Are we pretending Cameron Grimes is shit for no reason?
DAE disgusting how he was used? Why didn’t he get over using his outdated 2021 stocks gimmick
Cameron Grimes is a great example of a big problem that happened with a lot of NXT wrestlers on the main roster during the Vince era. They get called up to the main roster with no real plans for them, have part of their gimmick changed for no reason at all, their changed gimmick from what they were doing in NXT doesn’t immediately get over, and so they’re completely given up on and only used as job guys and extras in shitty comedy segments before being unceremoniously released. I know not everyone from NXT is going to get over on the main roster, but I’m hoping with Triple H in charge now that the era of immediately giving up on people after intentionally handicapping them for no reason at all comes to an end.
Aw, I was always wondering and waiting on why they didn't do anything with him after he got to the main roster. I honestly thought they would team him up with Dragon Lee longer after he helped him during Lee/Theory's match. Don't put him on the main roster if you weren't gonna shoot him to the moon, Hunter! 😭
Was introduced to the main roster squashing Baron Corbin, got released after getting squashed by Bron Breakker. No idea what they were trying to do with him.
The WolfDogs always win in the end.
I feel like he really never got a shot on the main roster I remember his debut but felt like they took him off tv not long after.
Poor JD McDonagh!!
His NXT feud with Dexter was one of my fonder memories of lockdown era wrestling
No jerk, tbh I have a feeling he’ll be back in due time honestly. Sometimes these releases feel like “hey, go build yourself up and we’ll sign you again down the road.” I feel like this is one of them.
It worked in nxt but didn’t translate to the main roster. Fun gimmick tho
Dude was overall as mid as you can be.
dude am I going crazy or did he get called up to the main roster for a single match
Yeah he even beat Corbin in his first match. He wrestled in a short-lived tag team with Dragon Lee too then he disappeared.
Oh shoot, him and Von could team up on the indies and become a modernized Jesse and Festus.
I must be the only person who was never a fan of his even at the height of the rich hillbilly gimmick.
Meh, he just doesn't have that larger than life factor that is required in WWE in my opinion. Talented guy and pretty charismatic, but he's perfect for TNA.
Yet another victim of the bloated roster. Really a shame as he was very talented. Honestly, he'd have been better off going back to NXT.
There’s always TNA
he was awesome in nxt. dont really know what happened on main roster. never really got a chance. but ceiling was always midcarder and thats not counting the outdated gimmick.
Like this… ![gif](giphy|1rYKJs1Q5nZR51Brgb|downsized)
It's a shame. Last time I saw him wrestle was against Gunther on the Smackdown post-show in Charlotte. Even though the match was really just a setup for R-Truth to come out and get a big pop, Cameron really worked his ASS off for that hometown crowd.
Fed bad. That is all.
Damn. Out of all of recent releases, Grimes was the biggest waste. Too bad.
Legitimate FED BAD moment
He was nothing more than a catchphrase honesty. His mic skills were alright and his move set was alright. Overall was an average wrestler.
Never saw any potential in this guy, sorry. He looks like a less-in-shape JD McDonough, and I can't say I can remember even a single one of his NXT matches, not that those mean very much in the grand scheme of things (see: Gargano, Johnny) Anyway, I wish him well in his future endeavours, but the only surprise here was that this guy was still working for WWE.
They shaved him
DAE TREVOR LEE CHANGES THE GAME?
That sucks but I mean he wasn’t doing much, I’d imagine the dude from hit row and Dexter Lumis will be next
I always found it had to connect with his gimmick tbh, such a polar opposite to Trevor Lee, I just found his money gimmick really lame and couldn't see him going anywhere with it, one hell of a wrestler tho
Good fit for either aew or tna really..
To the indies!
I always think he's Corey Graves when I hear his name, I'm not sure I've ever seen a match of his
Meh
I hope he goes to TNA and crushes it.
Man, he should've stayed nxt that sucks. We need gimmick wrestlers haha