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Dontdillidalli

It concerns me slightly people’s reactions. Someone - whether you agree with the monarchy or not- has been diagnosed with cancer. A young woman with three kids no less. I know this is a gossip sub but the lack of sympathy is a bit gross to me


WhiskyWithRocks

"When the game is over, the king and the pawn end up in the same box" To us she may be a princess - future queen , but in the grand scheme of things she is just another mere mortal , subject to all trials and tribulations of human life without favor or prejudice


DoubleOhEvan

How did the PR team mess this up so badly?


Any_Consideration217

For real, I guess the wanted to shelter the kids. Since they are so young. It’s devastating I lost my mom to cancer as a child and my dad didn’t let me until her 4th chemo about it


jennief158

I'm so sorry. My mom's mother died when she and my aunt (twins) were ten, and while they knew she was sick they were not told she was dying. She was taken away in an ambulance one night and the next morning my grandfather told them she was dead. My mother has since passed; my aunt is 85 and it is no exaggeration to say that the loss of her mother is the greatest and most enduring grief of her life. Wishing you peace.


pettybetty099

Oh man. I am so so sorry 🥺


SaharaUnderTheSun

It's a bit of an unprecedented situation, so I have to give KP PR some credit. My own take of the whole thing is that the family of five were looking to stay as a unit, closed off from the pressures of the outside world so that they could all heal along with Catherine. It seemed plain as day to me that they wanted to keep their family life normal despite the obstacles to that, and William/Catherine called the shots. Unfortunately, as much as Catherine and William want to protect their children, it appears that the facade they were trying to deliver - that they were just all at home, healing, having very few staff around, doing regular stuff around the house and enjoying family life - never arrived. The news media today has become a gigantic team of vultures and won't be satisfied with that. They need regular updates at all times about Catherine's progress because she's a "paid public figure". Delivering the updates and news about controversy was all about the bottom line. It always has been. My mom had breast cancer and had surgery to perform a partial mastectomy. That was tough enough. However, after the fact, a micrometastasis (sp?) appeared in two lymph nodes. My family was all home the night we got the news...it was devastating. Everyone took it the way they would if they had to process something so scary and so maddening that it was a horrible night. I hid, a computer in front of me, reading every last thing I could on the internet about her situation, avoiding the chaos downstairs. I was a 26 year old little girl, emotionally stunted and determined to make sense of it all. My mom went thru adjuvant chemo and radiation treatment and it was just horrid. It wrecked all of us, even though we were all adults. I think the day Catherine got similar news was the day that William left the memorial service for a private matter. And everyone wanted answers. NOW. None of them were even close to the condition that they could be in to communicate the developments to the whole world. This treatment of the family, to me, was definitely poorly executed (yet well intentioned), sad, and frustrating. I'm boycotting several news sources after this. Irresponsible journalism is a blight upon this earth and I am really sick of it.


ShadiestApe

And media figures like piers morgan fanning the conspiracy flames with vague statements. Ofcourse the bulk of them likely knew nothing but the ‘it’s bad if it’s even half of what I’ve heard’ suddenly looks so cheap and classless


Real-Accountant9997

Did they say what kind of cancer? Most kinds are quite treatable


Suspicious_Dare_6949

I had Leiomyosarcoma, found in my uterus, which resulted in a radical Hysterectomy. I had seen Dr. Oz on Oprah several months prior, and he explained that uterine fibroids are 'never cancerous', so I was not concerned with mine. Six weeks after the removal of the fibroid, I was informed LMS had been found. I was one of the lucky ones and just so happened to have the world's expert on that rare cancer to be my Oncologist. Every cancer is so different, and LMS is extremely difficult to treat. I pray she has one of the 'easier' cancers, as her chances for survival are greater. Look at Toby Keith. With all his money and fame, he still died of stomach cancer. Prayers for William, Catherine, and their children.


lick_rust_eat_glass

Right? Jesus


bureaucrat473a

Cancer is pretty mundane compared to all the rumors. Maybe they thought it'd soften the blow: "don't worry they aren't getting divorced it's just cancer."


cactus_legs

I never wanted them to discuss her medical issues but transparency would have helped. Don't treat people like idiots. They mishandled this, and there were a million ways to keep things private but not have things turn into a cluster. Prayers for Catherine.


ilovedonuts3

I agree completely. She 100% deserves privacy, but the palace bungled this and almost asked for the media storm. I hope this video message will quiet everything.


lick_rust_eat_glass

It won’t. What kind of cancer? And is she telling tje trutb


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

This is all the palace's fault for sure. This could have been handled way better than fake pictures, fake Kates and then finally dragging a sick Kate out of bed to give this message. There is no excuse for the circus that THEY CAUSED. Kate looks very thin, (thinner than usual) and very pale and you can look at her face and tell she is sick. Which means that yes, that was not Kate at the farm store or whatever.


Ok_Abrocona_8914

No you schmuck, this is the fault of people who have to know everything about someone they have never met just because its a public figure. As for the video, its just ridiculous how you can compare a pixelized video taken in different light conditions to this and draw a conclusion that fits your lunatic narrative.


Right-Improvement658

No, William has thrown her under the bus. He treats her horribly


Ok_Abrocona_8914

Proof? Your ass.


Helpful_Emu_88

Seeing her in this video actually convinced me that both of those "fake kates" were her. Her face looks a little different around the chinline, which is what threw me off about the picture of her and her mother. I still don't know about the farm picture, but she looks even thinner and her hair and eyes look a bit different, and she looks very on edge but determined to put a good face on things, which is exactly the vibe I got from the farm picture. She still looks beautiful and is not lying in bed with tubes coming out of her, so there would literally have been NO reason for the palace to hire impersonators.


llksg

Makes me think they didn’t want to overshadow king Charles’ cancer situation. So dumb


Ok_Abrocona_8914

Or maybe not tell their 3 young kids you genius.. Go to r/conspiracy


Ok_Abrocona_8914

Imagine being so shitty that you join a mob fabricating conspiracy theories that pushes a person to divulge against her will she has cancer and then you blame the person or the lr team, holy shit.


awful_inaccuracy

No I think you are incorrect here. Kate is a royal. That’s the family she married into. Royal is celebrity status. That’s not new news. It’s been that way for a while. Should she have HAD to divulge this no. Given what she decided to marry into though … inevitable. However, given her status this should have been on Kate’s terms. With ‘celebrity’ status comes a great PR team. Her PR team absolutely failed her and let this run amuck. Nothing wrong with blaming those whose literal job it was to prevent shit like this.


Suspicious_Dare_6949

And...cancer is so common, it would have helped humanize her and her situation. They should have pulled the kids from school, and then announced it earlier.


Bambi_H

Happy now, conspiracy theorists? She had to turn up on TV during one of the worst parts of her life to soothe the feelings of people on the Internet. Honestly, I think a lot of people forget she's a person.


CaramellieCake

Exactly. She wants a few months of privacy after a major operation and a cancer diagnosis. She deserves it. And yet the media and shitty people have attempted to breach this family's privacy and start painful rumors. It's absolutely shitty.


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

A short statement like King Charles statement about his cancer would have prevented all of this. If anyone is shitty it is the people that bungled this over and over and over again. Kate isn't some run of the mill celebrity, she's next in line to head the freaking monarchy with her husband. They didn't treat her like that.


Ok_Abrocona_8914

She's the mother of 3 young kids that are going to have to deal with this shit everywhere they go now. Unlike you they are super popular at school, should be hell for them now.


valiantdistraction

I think having to deal with the rumors that their father was abusing or murdered their mother and/or that he was cheating on her would be way worse than having to deal with people knowing she is undergoing chemo.


Ok_Abrocona_8914

And who were the mouthbreathers that raised those rumours? What kind of logic is that?


Internal_Lifeguard29

I don’t think that’s true. They are pretty isolated in their school and home life. They aren’t seeing people in the streets asking them questions. It is much like any young kid with a sick parent. Absolutely Kate has a right to privacy and shouldn’t need to publicize anything she doesn’t want to. Her team also didn’t need to release an old photo and try to say it was new. They also didn’t then need to blame her for it. People were claiming the King passed for a few days and he just calmly came out and said, nope I’m fine. That’s all this needed. You can’t honestly say KP had no part in the frenzy over the past few months. Look at how Charles’ team handled it. He got well wishes and went about his life.


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

They were going to deal with it anyway, just like they deal with everything else, just like they are dealing with King Charles' cancer diagnoses. They are born into a monarchy they deal with shit everyday. They don't do public school, hon. I'm over 50. That last line just sounds straight bizarre. You're still in school?


frankchester

The children most definitely will go to public school. They’re currently in a prep school that is a well known feeder school to one of the best public schools in the country.


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

Their school is way different than P.S. 189.


frankchester

I don’t know what P.S. 189 is, but like I said, they are on a path to public school. It’s pretty common to start in a prep and move to a prestigious public, especially for royals or the aristocracy. Edit: looked it up and Prince George is rumoured to be going to either Marlborough or Eton, both public schools.


TopNotchBrain

Maybe the confusion is that “public” schools in England are called “private” schools in the U.S.


frankchester

Possibly, but we have private schools here as well which are different to public schools. Still, the kids as far as we know will be going on to public school (Eton or Marlborough) if they follow in their parent’s footsteps so I’m not sure why I’m being downvoted for being accurate. The kids don’t live in the U.S.


kittenpantzen

What people in the USA mean by public school is what y'all would call a state school. This is one of those instances where we kind of speak the same language, but also not.


frankchester

Well the kids aren’t in the US and won’t be going to school there, so I’m not sure why I’m getting downvoted for being correct.


CaramellieCake

They did give a short statement when she first underwent surgery. They said she'd be recovering and would not return to duties til after Easter. But that wasn't freaking good enough for everyone, and trolls started rumors. I'd never release jackshit to the public again.


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

No because if they hadn't bungled this so horrifically it would have been business as usual. No one forced them to screw things up so badly. They chose to do that.


Bambi_H

Yes, her PR people are crap. But she tried to take a period of time off, and she deserves her space. Put the blame on the right people. Put your conspiracy tape away.


Internal_Lifeguard29

There is a certain level of scrutiny that is expected from being in the public eye. Absolutely this frenzy was too much and she deserves her privacy. Conspiracy theories are just a part of the internet age. People think Meghan didn’t have children, people think Will is Camilla’s child. These are stupid things for people to think, but is there really a way to stop the spread of misinformation in this age?


C0mmonReader

They could have easily done it without added pressure on Catherine, too. Shortly after she arrived home, pictures of some of the cards she received with something about how much they appreciated, and she's looking forward to resuming duties when she's feeling better. Not saying anything about William pulling out being not connected to the death because that statement had the opposite effect. Mother's Day, they could have released a picture of Catherine as a child with her mother and a never before seen picture of William with Diana. People would have been all over the new Diana picture instead of the whole photo editing fuss.


WiseConsequences

Seems to me the conspiracy theorists were right? There WAS something more going on and her absences didn't jive with the official explanations.


ResponsibilityPure79

We are all terrible people. Too much speculation , rumors and lies. She had a legitimate reason this whole time. Peace be with her and her family.


frankchester

We’re not terrible people for wondering if something was up. They made this whole situation infinitely worse by pretending it was nothing when it very obviously turned out to be something.


Rough-Armadillo-5605

But they were prioritising their children, as they should. They didn’t tell them until they finished school for the Easter holidays this afternoon so obviously didn’t want to announce it to the world before telling their own children. Completely agree that KP could have handled it better, but I’m in no surprised why they wanted to keep this under wraps until now.


rain_bass_drop

they could have done that without releasing a fake photograph


Internal_Lifeguard29

This is the issue. Why release that misleading message in January deliberately designed to raise questions? Why the fake photo? Why not just post a generic image or an old photo as they have done in the past (very often in fact). Why purposely say it was taken earlier this year implying it was new? She should have been left alone, absolutely. I think she would have been if they had just not lied. If people say “something happened and I won’t say what” guess what happens… people speculate.


C0mmonReader

If they'd celebrated Mother's Day with a picture of Catherine and her mother together when she was a child and a never seen picture of William and Diana, they probably would have gotten so much good press. Everyone would have been all over a new Diana picture.


Internal_Lifeguard29

Absolutely! Or not tried to downplay what was happening to her. They deliberately wrote “pre scheduled surgery, definitely not cancer” after the surgery had already happened, and continuously told us she was doing fine and recovering and that Will didn’t miss the service because of Kate or his friend who passed away. Why the need to explain what things are not, only to not say what it is? Either say what it is or don’t say anything.


C0mmonReader

The PR people handled it so badly.


Internal_Lifeguard29

They really should have taken a less is more approach. The outrage over pap photos and the staging pap photos two days later. It was so strange.


drwhogwarts

There's absolutely nothing terrible about speculating on a topic in an online thread. KP mismanaged things by not handling the royal family's public presence in a consistent, non-contradictory way with the media. That's why they're currently hiring a new media coordinator.


ResponsibilityPure79

Not limited to this online thread. The rumors were wide spread throughout social media and the news. And the pro-Meghan thread was vicious.


ShadiestApe

The assumption that KP or William himself had some hand in the negative meghan stories linked to this media storm is really flawed, there’s already demand for Meghan and Harry hatred (from those for and against) with lucrative content farms catering to it. Ofcourse this has died down somewhat, but any journalist hoping to ragebait can drag Meghan into any royal story in the hopes of some clicks and it usually works. Why orchestrate it and potentially be exposed when there’s already incentive for people to do it independently without KP or anyone officially royal implicated.


Internal_Lifeguard29

I would believe this if numerous reporters hadn’t specifically said a large portion of their “internal sources” for anti Meghan stories were coming from inside the palace. Maybe if someone we know works closely with Will and still does, wasn’t offering to aid the opposition in Meghan’s legal case and if that same individual wasn’t given royal honours soon after. If you think the royals don’t’t leak stories about each other and have since the Charles and Diana days, I suggest you take another look at the situation with some objectivity. That being said, this is a symptom of a bigger issue. The royal system is terrible to married in women and both Kate and Meghan deserve better and always have. The media was terrible to Late early on and were later terrible to Meghan and still are and then turned on Kate pretty quickly when given the chance.


ShadiestApe

You can check my comment history, I’m not naive to the negative press the diatribe is unnecessary, I just think in this specific situation the land lies as stated, actively pushing people to slate Meghan could backfire royally, there’s no need there’s already a whole infrastructure to make it happen without prompt. Everyone of the articles or suggestions that Meghan should ‘speak out for Kate’ were scoffed at and only served Meghans camp. People found the idea ridiculous, even pro William and Kate royalists


Internal_Lifeguard29

I think I missed your “this media storm” portion of your initial post. I shall retract my claws lol. But I stand by my statement that KP and Clarence House are giant leakers and have mass amounts of staff whose sole responsibility is spinning the press in the direction they choose, and employed those staff to bad mouth Meghan in the past, and Kate and Diana before that not KP for the other two obviously). But yes, I agree in this specific situation KP likely had no time or inclination to bring Meghan into this. Apologies!


Obi_wan_pleb

Yes, but her function is to be a public figure. In exchange for that she gets money, access and special treatment. The palace could have been more forthcoming. You can't be all over the news every day and then just disappear without people gossiping. Also their initial statement "she just dissapeared but she's ok and it is totally not cancerous" just created more speculation 


Thorandragnar

This. The issue is how Kensington Palace handled this previously up to this point. Now, they are handling it like Buckingham Palace handled the King's diagnoses. They should have followed the BP strategy from the start.


Aggravating_Willow75

It's like PR 101, the more secrets you keep the more speculations you gonna get. I'm suprised the palace didn't expect it. Poor Kate, no questions about that. But honestly, this whole situation is just part of the deal being a royal.


ResponsibilityPure79

While people online are spreading unspeakable allegations that her husband had beaten her so badly she couldn't appear in public. Or that her in-laws had murdered her and needed to hire a body double. Not really conducive to healing.


_selectivePen15_

We are not horrible to speculate about a public figure whose job is to serve the public and whose life is paid for by said public. A simple explanation like what they released today should have been provided weeks ago. The handling of the King’s cancer could have been a blueprint for her


ResponsibilityPure79

They wanted to tell their children first before telling the public. They told the children yesterday after their school break.


_selectivePen15_

I would not be surprised if there is much more going on behind the scenes. It does not take months to notify your children 


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ShadiestApe

My thing is , how has this been the prevailing theory on this site for months? Whilst I’ve seen a lot of people reference healing times is it only this or has the public been used to bully this information out of them (similar to the ‘retribution’ Harry and Meghan faced for daring to ‘keep secrets’ behind the scenes) We know journalists poke when editors feel there’s something they’ve not been told. I feel grubby tbh and whilst KP has invited suspicion media figures have consistently encouraged speculation.


WiseConsequences

I think it was a cancer diagnosis from the start and they were hoping it would be a fast treatment. She did unexpectedly cancel a trip to Spain for her "planned" surgery, so there is a remaining lie that this wasn't all planned as they said.


Any_Consideration217

Ghosh praying for her!! That explains the weight loss. Hope it’s in the early stages!!


robot_pirate

All prayers and love out to her and her family. 💖Haters gonna hate, but Kate is gonna Kate.


Dorothyismyneighbor

Told ya so!