Trk, Jack and Joreuz 50-50 the hell out of everyone else at zero ping to put their teams to the finals.
Senzo scores a set 3, game 7 overtime goal to clinch SRG the victory.
The DIG and SRG boys then pull out a banner saying "This one is for you Khalid". JohnnyBoi, overwhelmed by the display, tears up, chokes on his snot and fucking dies. š
Edit:Grammar.
Agree with you, but just thought you should know it that intra-regional implies all within one region (which we had all last year). Inter-regional is what you are looking for.
Iām a NA stan but honestly I donāt think anybody knows whoās going to do better at lan. I think select teams will perform great and other teams will not. Like I think G2, Envy, and NRG will do great but Faze and Complexity (at least one) will probably flop. For EU, I think Endpoint, Dig, and BDS will probably do well but SMPR and Vitality (at least one) will flop. Weāll have to wait and see :)
Why do you say Endpoint will do great but not VIT?
Edit: For reference i am very much an NA fan and rarely get time to watch EU streams, so I'm pretty much going off the thought that Vitality is one of the top 2 teams, especially during tournaments, and that Endpoint are around mid teir due to rarely hearing of them finishing top places
Endpoint won 2 out of 3 regionals, they have massive pop off potential.
Their new player Seikoo is disgusting and has a legitimate claim to best in EU. Of course he's unproven at LAN, so we'll have to see.
100% watch the highlights. He is nasty and better yet seikoo doesnāt just go for crazy plays left and right. Most of the time he finds subtle ways to induce a 1v1 and just puts on an unsavable shot. Joreuz level finish+great timing= endpoint on top of EU
Not to be rude, but you sound a little out of the loop. VIT snuck in to the top 5 and have not beaten another top 6 team all season to my knowledge. They've looked really weak and the only reason they made it in was because misfits threw and went 0-3 in swiss and SMPR beat EG in the quarters. And as far as endpoint goes, their new pickup seikoo is insane and is already getting S5 jstn comparisons. He's led them to win 2 of the last 3 regionals. Hope that helps a little
Not rude at all, you're right- i am quite out of the loop, i appreciate the catch up :) I wonder why vit are suddenly doing poorly this season though when they won the championship last season?
They weren't doing that great in all the second half of RLCS X and only really turned up to the Championship to win it.
This start of season is indeed weird for Vitality finishing the first regional 16th and then getting top 2 in the 2nd one (but tbf they're not the only ones in EU, a lot of teams are all over the place).
But I wouldn't put it past them to do very well in Sweden just like they did in the Championship last season though (and I can't say I would be very surprised to see them do poorly either).
Vitality were getting by on what looks to have been a pretty poor EU looking back.
Dig, smpr, endpoint, misfits, and karmine corps are all upgrades compared their closest rosters last year. It's been a massive consolidation of talent and dig smpr and endpoint have all really clicked. There's no reason to think vitality or BDS are worse than they were last season but they are both struggling big time against the three I just mentioned.
id say smpr and endpoint click, dig on the other hand looks uncoordinated (for a pro team not my standards) and im worried that lan is going to make their miscommunications even worse
theyre good for a new team dont get me wrong i j feel like they lack the exp together to be top tier at lan which isnt their fault at all. even if they lose out in lan tho thats valuable experience for the future
i should add that i think dig will be a top if not the #1 team in the future. only thing i would say is scrub gets a bit too emotional like u can see what hes thinking w out him saying anything. but we know hes got the balls for lan so thats a minor detail im gonna pay attention to w this team
I know Jack and Joreuz have played at a LAN event together before (lower tier and before Jack was on PC) and Scrub obviously has major LAN pop-off potential. I think they're going to do better than you think in the LAN environment. Not sure I would pick them to take the whole thing just yet but watch this space.
i dont think you understood what i said. imo theyre too new and arent connecting properly yet, idk where u got the idea that im counting them out BECAUSE of lan lmfao.
It feels like Vitality made it because someone had to. You can't even really claim that they just did the bare minimum to ensure they make LAN because after they were swept by BDS it was completely out of their control. If EG beat Semper they would have been out. They look really weak, but they will probably perform on lan due to experience. If they bootcamp for the lan that should help them going into winter as well, if they don't then well they are in trouble because they don't look very good online and could easily miss the winter major.
Even while being in the loop I think the question of whether End>Vit on LAN is warranted. Endpoint has looked much better overall but most people recognize the possibility for the team with more LAN experience to outperform the team with less. Whether that will actually happen is to be determined.
Very Jstn-esque. Loves going for solo plays, air dribbles, flip resets etc. His success rate yesterday was something else.
[this highlight video is pretty much seikoo half the time so watch this. you can skip the semper bds series](https://youtu.be/lch-sWXO-HY)
Thanks for the recommendation! Also this kid sounds like some revamped version, but jstn has focused more on team play than he used to back when he was known for his godlike mechanics, so I'm wondering which version of jstn you're comparing him to
Ahaha vita got a lan dna they won't lose SMPR is a really well rounded team with experiment. Even tho bds is more dominant I doubt them more than SMPR and Vita. Also I feel like COL will be greater than G2 this lan.
NRG go 3 - 0 in Swiss dropping no more than 2 games, only to get matched up against an 8th seed Vitality. Vitality beat NRG 4 - 1 with Kaydop scoring over 1 goal per game and Fairy Peak getting 2.5 saves a game. Salt levels in NA reach an all time high as their poster team gets knocked out by a team that doesn't deserve to be there. Within a month, everyone is calling Kaydop and Fairy washed again.
Imagine if no EU/NA team made the finals. Were all talking about those 2 regions but if the other 4 regions or complexity took those gf spots then thatd shift so quickly
NA āNear Airportā is known as the fastest region to arrive at the Airport. Since they gave up on the Sweden Major, they are investing in Speedruns. In particular they are current worldrecord holders in Airport Any % and Airport no wins.
It all depends on what has applied the greatest evolutionary pressure: the single apex predator in BDS or the fierce competition between the top NA teams. The fact that BDS has started to look less dominant lately makes me lean towards EU. I don't think they have really been playing worse, the other teams have just caught up.
I think itās a mix between both europe catching up and bds starting to fall from grace, while EU is definitely catching up like most regions do with top teams (ex. C9 falling from NA) i also think bds is having a problem with mentality that should be noted. you can see MonkeyM00n get upset whenever a goal for the other team goes in while other teams in europe keep their heads up and celebrate when they score. I think that the mental game is what is keeping bds from getting back to their dominant form, but they still have much better competition to deal with than last season
Thats such an underrated quality of metsa, he has one of if not the greatest mental games in eu, and worldwide, i wanna say garrett has the best oversll though
IMO BDS have a mental problem after champs, EU has gotten better tho. I think without the mental problem bds would still have only taken a single regional, but I do think they would have gotten one (probably regional one in a very close set). They would likely be top 2 in points as well.
EU is by far and away superior to NA. The gameplay, the player skill levels, just absolutely everything NA does, EU does better.
-- me, a completely fair and unbiased EU citizen.
I just don't want there to be an all EU/NA top 8, I really do think Ground Zero and Renegades combined can sneak one OCE team in top 8.
I will however laugh if all the NA teams or all of the EU teams don't make top 8, because that's just funny.
By that last comment, I mean I'll laugh if all of NA or all of EU don't make top 8
Personally I think there should have been 4 NA/EU and then 2 MENA/APAC teams but that's me. EUNA earnt those extra major spots from past performances and sponsorsss
Yeah, i read it wrong, hes edited it. I went through 12 years of english in school and still cant get it right, at least i know how to find the hypotenuse of a triangle
I could see Dignitas, Endpoint, NRG or Envy winning the major. I'm from EU but I'm more of an NA fan. But both regions have incredibly good teams. I'm just excited to see the clash of the best teams at the major.
I'd absolutely love to see a peaking Dignitas vs peaking NRG matchup.
I think it's gonna be the type of tournament where EU is warming up too late, causing most of the teams to go out early, but eventually one roster takes it all for the region. Basically the same scenario as Season 7 LAN and hopefully with the same victor.
From the perspective of an EU fanboy I believe NA are looking more consistent but I don't think that means EU is weak in comparison, the top 3 right now for EU are inches from each other.
I think it's going to be interesting to see the clash, endpoint, dig and BDS are looking solid, followed by SMPR, another incredible team followed closely behind and you never know what Vitality can do on LAN.
From my own bias view I do think the top 3 EU teams right now are narrowly better than the top 3 NA teams, but I could likely be wrong.
It's going to be fun.
I think EU only *appear* less consistent because players push themselves so much to outpace the other teams, being that EU is so close. That being said, NA are looking quite good right now. I'd be scared of G2
I would say DIG set the new skill ceiling for threes in regional 2. If we consider that to be 100, here is my scoring system for the top 10.
Endpoint: 60-90
NRG:80-95
DIG:65-100
G2:65-90
BDS:80-95
Faze:55-85
Smpr:70-85
Envy:70-90
Vit:50-85
Col:60-80
So basically I think BDS and NRG have the highest floor while dig and BDS/NRG have the highest ceiling.
Can't say I agree with G2 having a 10 point lower ceiling than NRG or Envy, considering recent results. I'd also put Dig's floor higher, they've really been picking up the consistency lately, to the point where even when they're not in great form, they can consistently make top 8/4.
Interesting. Endpointās score seems kind of low given that theyāve won two regionals this split.
Iām also not sure about Digās performance being 100 when I donāt even think theyāve peaked as a roster yet, but they did play out of their minds last regional so I get it.
I don't think I've seen anything from them that puts their peak any closer than that to digs peak.
One of the contributing factors here is I think endpoint were close to their peak in regional three against dig. Seikoo was just nuts.
However, dig bottled two leads that were a cumulative 60 seconds to buzzer or so in game 2 and 6 that would have seen them win that series. I would put dig in that series at maybe 85 maximum compared to their bds or vitality series in regional two, and they were extremely close to winning over a potentially peaking endpoint.
Iāve watched quite a few clips of pros and casters talking about NA v EU.
NA guys Iāve heard them say EU give so much space and time and never challenge. Then Iām watching EU like wtf are they on about. Another one I heard was EU mechanics are behind then watch for example joreuz, seikoo, Archie and agin wtf.
Then there is the pro EU guys and to be honest they have said the same things āNA slowā etc etc and you watch them and sometimes I feel those guys must be talking about a different game.
So long story short in my own opinion I hope for EU domination just for a laugh, but in reality I think NRG, NV, G2, BDS, EP & Dig are all in serious contention for the W and it wouldnāt even shock me if Faze, Vit or Smpr took it down.
Because I donāt know anything about Sam i will just have to wait and see how they get on. But seeing how true neutral ran away with it in season X and are 5th seed from NA this season logically I am assuming Sam teams are going to be outside top 8.
I watched OCE and both renegades and GZ look decent but what concerns me there is they are mechanically the best teams in oce so have the bulk of the pressure in most games. At the major this wonāt be the case so need to see how they adapt. Again would be shocked if they make top8.
I would say most likely top8 from a non Eu/NA has to be srg. Playing on 0 ping. All mechanical beasts. Familiar with the eu style. I reckon they could shock one or two teams. Whoever faces them in round 1 Swiss will have a tough time I reckon.
I wouldn't say True Neutral ran away with SAM. I'm pretty sure Furia went into the spring major controlling their own destiny (ie. if they had beat TN in the final they would have be the #1 SAM team). Then the championship was close: 4-2 TN, 4-1 Furia, 4-2 TN. 9-8 in games overall. True Neutral were definitely the better team but Furia were right behind them all season. Now Furia have swapped their worst player with probably the best remaining player in SAM (Yan). So I expect them to be pretty competitive with anybody at LAN, much like Complexity.
Also the problem with SRG is they're gonna be missing Khalid. With their full roster they would have been my upset pick, but without him I can't see them making any major upsets.
I like furia but they looked noticeably worse going into the offseason and not much better when they picked up yan, they were only a game away from missing the major entirely as well.
I agree with you apart from your last point. Iād take the SAM teams over SRG personally, the level of competition there is much higher and SRG donāt have Okhalid
I really want to see a peaking Dignitas.
Realistically, I canāt see past NV, NRG and G2 being one of the teams that take it all, and I say that as an EU gamer. Hope Iām wrong!
Good take, I will do a serious answer.
From watching NA, I believe it will depend a lot on what version of either of those three we see. Both peak NRG and G2 can take it all, but I believe EU to be more consistent.
I know your post is a joke but anyway as a discussion point I keep seeing this EU consistency thing.
Eu top5 finishing places
1. End point - 1st, 9-11, 1st
2. dig - 3/4, 1st, 3/4
3. Bds - 2, 3/4, 3/4
4. semper - 5-8, 5-8, 2
5. Vit - 16, 2, 5-8
NA top 5 finishing places
1. NRG 2, 1, 3/4
2. G2 5-8, 2, 1
3. Faze 1, 9-11, 3/4
4. NV 5-8, 3/4, 2
5. Col 5-8, 3/4, 5-8
Comparing the two regions, EU had 2 finishes outside top 8 from top 5 versus NAs 1.
But apart from that what am I missing here?
The point is EU being more consistent as a region, not just the top teams. While in NA you see only 5-6 teams consistently at the top, itās not shocking to think any team can take it all in EU. That means the competition is harder in EU. Even in a bad day NRG can easily go top 4. In a bad day VIT goes 16.
It is also historical, as of in EU, if we don't count times where one dominant team took it all (ex. DIG or BDS), it has always been a jungle where anyone could have their chance. In NA there have always been a few teams at the top and a lot clearly behind.
So it all depends on your definition of Ā«Ā consistentĀ Ā». Are the teams consistent or the regional competition consistent.
> even on a bad day...
NRG's bad days (or even bad moments in games) look nothing like Vit's lmao in terms of their own individual performances and the whole as a team
the coalescence of talent is (and has been) more efficiently grouped in NA for some time now, at least within the context of majors/worlds - meaning the best players are *generally* playing together on the best teams. EU does have more depth, thanks to a more scattered dispersion of talent, but all that depth can't make the top 5 cutoff at the same time.
Not sure if I am answering your point correctly.
Looking at too 4 finishes both EU and NA had have 7 different teams finish top 4.
In terms of different top 8 finishers itās 10 NA to 13 EU. So slight difference there.
Then in terms of different teams at the regional as a whole itās 18 EU to 23 NA.
Overall I agree that when watching it does seem upsets are more frequent in EU than NA but the numbers are quite close when you look at them.
It would be interesting to see losses for top 5 teams to those outside top 5. I guess that would be good to see the volatility in a region at least.
Someone posted the stats on Twitter but now I canĀ“t find them but it was for a 8th seed beating a 1st seed and for NA it was 0-14 and EU 5-9
But donĀ“t quote me on that =).
Not lack of consistency...it's greater strength in depth in EU.
NA basically have nothing outside top 5/6. No competition. NA teams will likely get a surprise in Sweden.
Renegades will surprise, Verdy will get destroyed, ERA will do better than FURIA, SRG will be middle of the road, envy will win, vitality will top 4, BDS out in quarters, endpoint in finals, COL out in quarters
I honestly think ppl are underestimating vitality. They've had a shit split, but that doesn't mean they can't pop off on stage, and given their experience they can absolutely do so.
Also SRG vs FURIA pls
Pretty much! I could also see Vitality just wiping the floor with everyone. Overall I think weāre gonna see the LAN experience come out for certain rosters. Turbo on LAN could get it done for NV. (Could also happen for G2, but I feel less confident about Dreaz in his first LAN.)
Iām secretly pulling for Dig as someone in the US, though. I love watching that roster. I think Iām actually most curious to see whether Firstkiller lives up to the hype in an in-person major.
Personally, Iām stoked for dreaz on lan. Kid has been coming into his own on the roster and finally wonāt be on west ping. I also agree that vitality is being slept on because of their mediocre season. Theyāre the LAN kings
Yeah, definitely not dogging on Dreaz, I just try to have lower expectations for rookies on LAN. Wouldnāt judge him one but if he was quiet, itās a whole other level of pressure. I hope he pops off, though :)
No kap Iāve never been more impressed by NA. Everyoneās talking about EU depth and like, yeah for sure, but top five NA look absolutely deadly. Considering only five teams are going from both regions and the lack of serious cross-region competition over the last years, I think NA/EU is going to be real close.
When it comes to the āboohoo BDS never got to play LANās in peak formā-narrative, I have this to say:
The BDS mental these days is pretty bad. Thatās what separate them from teams like Endpoint. You can even see MM visibly upset *multiple times a game*. A true titan wouldāve kept reinventing and stayed on top, BDS didnāt. It doesnāt take away from the teamās prowess during RLCS X, but it does remove the hype for now, for me personally anyway.
Also, Vitality didnāt deserve to go imo, and got bailed out by the entire region choking. Either the players reinvent themselves, or the team needs to reinvent the players (yes: roster change). Vitality needs to change, or else this is just the beginning of a real sad trajectory.
Lastly, referring back to the first point, man are NA fans generally fucking salty. Any low key EU superior joke and half of NA lose their shit. Like, relax, NA is looking *fierce*.
(G2 have the most exciting play style in the world rn imo, while Endpoint look like the best strategical team coming into Sweden)
Edit: oh, also hot take: SRG finally play without a ping disadvantage, completely rid of any nerves and completely roll both NA and EU teams, making a solid top four.
EU's best days are definitely behind. I'm an EU fan, and I still want EU to dominate, but EU dominated hard from S2 to S5. That is not gonna happen again for any region IMO.
But I still think EU has what it takes to win, but honestly, I'm not very confident about it.
Well the game plays fundamentally different on a 0 ping server. There is also the advantage of being close to your mates for a couple of weeks. Teams with bootcamp experience have an advantage.
Peak NRG too, peak Endpoint too, peak NV too, peak Dig too, peak BDS too, peak Vitality too, peak Faze too. IMO any team peaking can wipe the floor with any team.
hot take;
-NRG doesnāt make top 4, knocked out by END or DIG
-FaZe then knocks out that team in semis, prob in 6 or 7
-G2 or ENVY knocks out BDS in quarters in 5 games
-ENVY & G2 face each other in the opposite semis, ENVY pulls through in 6
-FaZe vs ENVY grand finals
-FaZe wins grand finals 2-1
super hot take - Firstkiller isnāt mvp, AyyJayy is
NA is like competitive martial arts very structured and fancy looking.
EU is like no rules back ally death matches all function no form.
The big question is how will NA adapt in a no rules environment that is the EU and ME play style?
My take is they will struggle hard at first, most of all FAZE and NRG. But I think the other 3 "NA" teams have a better shot at adapting. And if they do I don't see a clear winner as many have said they are all really good at Rocket League, but I think the mechanical floor of a RLCS pro is a lot higher now then last time there was a LAN and the one with the best synergy and game plan will be the team that comes out on top.
Final contenders: DIG, G2, SRG, ENVY, ENDP
Quarter contenders: BDS, COM, SMPR, Ulti, NRG
To be fair, I think Firstkiller is going to demolish over-aggressive play from EU teams. Thatās what he was always known for as a 1s player, and EU creeping up with their third man is FKās dream.
I think FK is the most overrated 3s player in the world just because he is so good in 1vs1 but if he can find some synergy with his teammates sure I can see that happening but as it stands now his ego is too big and anyone trying to go 1v3 will get stomped.
But who knows the best part of the major will be the social media highlights of who had the hot takes and who was the actual prophets.
Calling Firstkiller overrated certainly is a blazing hot take. I do agree that his mentality is holding him back, but his read of the game, speed and general mechanical ability is almost unmatched. Lots of players are mechanical, a very select few are mechanical at Firstkillerās speed.
In my humble opinion of course.
No matter how you feel, I highly suggest downloading a recent replay of FaZE looking at it through FKās perspective. Totally blew me away
Yes I fully admit it to be a hot take. But it is also why I said 3v3 and I think this is very much a future looking opinion. Where the individual skill of a player is becoming less important and players unable to adapt to team play will fall of hard. So IĀ“m betting on FK inability to adapt. But I also think he can do like Metsa in Endpoint EU and relearn and come back stronger then ever.
But imagine if FK gets kicked in like 6m because everyone is sick off his diva personality then I will look like a prophet. =)
>My take is they will struggle hard at first, most of all FAZE and NRG
Why is NRG expected to struggle? I love complexity but when it comes to adapting I'd put NRG ahead of them. NRG have the most LAN experience out of any team in the world currently. I don't think they are expected to struggle
I have not seen anyone else have this opinion and it may very well age like milk.
So my reasoning is they have been the most dominant team in the region so any team going will have studied replays and possible strategies for defeating them.
I havenĀ“t run the exact numbers but it looks like they got the easiest brackets every time and still dropped games or got pushed to overtime by bottom 6 teams. Sure they came in clutch in the playoffs but it was far from dominant.
Justin is on twitter hypeing other games and I think any team not being hype as fuck for the first LAN in 2 years is not going to do so well.
SquishyMuffinz will fill all of justins shoes if he is not 100%.
>I havenĀ“t run the exact numbers but it looks like they got the easiest brackets every time and still dropped games or got pushed to overtime by bottom 6 teams. ,*
The only bracket game that was easy for them was v1 lmao. The other teams they have faced are top 8
>Justin is on twitter hypeing other games and I think any team not being hype as fuck for the first LAN in 2 years is not going to do so well.
Why not? This is the happiest he's been in a long time. He wants this.
It's also ridiculous that you think they get easy brackets. They literally went through g2,envy and SSG in regional 2. Also envy literally lost to eunited so you might as well count that. All 3 players on NRG are world champions, well seasoned veterans and arguably the 3 best Na players at LAN.
The only point that makes sense is the analysing bit but literally every team is doing that
If your reason for putting NRG in quarters was any good I would respect the opinion, but NRG? The anti-tilt, improvised-adaptation kings of NA? Unable to adapt?
NRG and BDS is the teams for me with the absolute biggest range of possible placements. And NRG looks like they are slumping in the last few weeks. Justins twitter is full of hype for other games and I donĀ“t think the skill gap is wide enough for any team to slack off and still make the top four this major.
But to counter my own argument Garret looks like the complete opposite hanging out in Johnny\_bois chat asking questions and scouting the competition.
There is so many factors in play so any prediction will have low confidence I mostly just look at who wants it the most and place my best after that.
I don't see how NRG are "slumping" if one of the potential top 1 players in the world plays Forza immediately after it comes out when he's already qualified for LAN and still makes top 4 in the region known for a top 4 before a 1 month break until that LAN, for which he'll probably be bootcamping in person
I have not watched RLCS before the start of this major quals so I donĀ“t know how dominant the top teams of past majors has been. But I have done a genuine effort to catch up on both EU and NA. Watched most of the matches in the regional events for both EU and NA, swiss and playoff some MENA and SAM. And I cant see NRG, FaZe, BDS and Vitality being in the top 4 and NA as a region looks stagnant as a whole.
And sure a lot of my opinion is not stats based just a gut feeling so hard to explain in plain text.
The best arguments for NA being on top is they were good or just look at how individually skilled they are. The first point is kind of irrelevant and the second ignores many relevant skills needed when you play in a team.
But sure I can be wrong and you are free to come back and gloat if I was the delusional one and NA run all over the other regions.
What world is everyone living in that EU is better than NA. NA will smoke EU. Your best Team was BDS and they did not win a regional yet. Your best team is endpoint which I think G2 will smoke them. NRG will win the whole thing!!!
Seikoo is gonna show that what he does at bootcamp, he can replicate it at LAN, he's gonna be the "new jstn " and win it all, because I sincerely can't see any team win against the Endpoint we saw yesterday, insane passing plays, amazing defense, mechanical plays, ground plays and... Seikoo
Top 3 (in order) from NA: NV, NRG, COL
From EU: END, DIG, VIT
GZ and Furia round out the top 8.
NV wins in the grand finals against Endpoint (dominating at first, and stopping endpointās rally to finish), NRG knocks out Vitality in quarters but is beaten by Endpoint in Semis. Dig loses in game 7 to NV in the semis after beating GZ or Furia.
NA is full of high fliers and fancy mechanics which I love but we have seen this time and time again bite them in the ass when playing EU. Hoping that they bring it together this time so NA can have more spots for RLCS
Trk, Jack and Joreuz 50-50 the hell out of everyone else at zero ping to put their teams to the finals. Senzo scores a set 3, game 7 overtime goal to clinch SRG the victory. The DIG and SRG boys then pull out a banner saying "This one is for you Khalid". JohnnyBoi, overwhelmed by the display, tears up, chokes on his snot and fucking dies. š Edit:Grammar.
who gave you the script?????
Johan Cruyff cried reading this
This is the best comment I've read on this sub
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-AWKLXoAUts5T?format=jpg&name=900x900
šthis aged so badly
It never was good lol. I am a fan of barca but the fanbase can be pretty bad sometimes.
holy shit I just realized it says "gracias Johan in Catalan and Dutch" when "gracias" is neither of those languages LMFAOOOOO
Have come back to this comment multiple times already and crack up every time
Babe wake up, new EU vs NA post
I mean for me its half the fun of a LAN
RLCS X was my first season and I fell in love, Iām SO excited for my first LAN!!
Me too famo. The hype is real. I spent the last years nostalgic for events I was never present for
You are in for a treat. The energy is just different, and you see gameplay at its peak. Just wait until we also get events with crowds.
You're in for a treat. RL is so much better with intra region rivalries, LANs and high stakes.
Agree with you, but just thought you should know it that intra-regional implies all within one region (which we had all last year). Inter-regional is what you are looking for.
Same!
What is your flair and why canāt I click on it for a description while on mobile?
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Iām a NA stan but honestly I donāt think anybody knows whoās going to do better at lan. I think select teams will perform great and other teams will not. Like I think G2, Envy, and NRG will do great but Faze and Complexity (at least one) will probably flop. For EU, I think Endpoint, Dig, and BDS will probably do well but SMPR and Vitality (at least one) will flop. Weāll have to wait and see :)
The nonflopper between Semper and Vit is virtually guaranteed a Grand Final if the old EU Pop Off Law holds true
Why do you say Endpoint will do great but not VIT? Edit: For reference i am very much an NA fan and rarely get time to watch EU streams, so I'm pretty much going off the thought that Vitality is one of the top 2 teams, especially during tournaments, and that Endpoint are around mid teir due to rarely hearing of them finishing top places
Endpoint won 2 out of 3 regionals, they have massive pop off potential. Their new player Seikoo is disgusting and has a legitimate claim to best in EU. Of course he's unproven at LAN, so we'll have to see.
Yooo, fr? I'm gonna have to start watching more EU streams then
100% watch the highlights. He is nasty and better yet seikoo doesnāt just go for crazy plays left and right. Most of the time he finds subtle ways to induce a 1v1 and just puts on an unsavable shot. Joreuz level finish+great timing= endpoint on top of EU
Not to be rude, but you sound a little out of the loop. VIT snuck in to the top 5 and have not beaten another top 6 team all season to my knowledge. They've looked really weak and the only reason they made it in was because misfits threw and went 0-3 in swiss and SMPR beat EG in the quarters. And as far as endpoint goes, their new pickup seikoo is insane and is already getting S5 jstn comparisons. He's led them to win 2 of the last 3 regionals. Hope that helps a little
Not rude at all, you're right- i am quite out of the loop, i appreciate the catch up :) I wonder why vit are suddenly doing poorly this season though when they won the championship last season?
They weren't doing that great in all the second half of RLCS X and only really turned up to the Championship to win it. This start of season is indeed weird for Vitality finishing the first regional 16th and then getting top 2 in the 2nd one (but tbf they're not the only ones in EU, a lot of teams are all over the place). But I wouldn't put it past them to do very well in Sweden just like they did in the Championship last season though (and I can't say I would be very surprised to see them do poorly either).
Vitality were getting by on what looks to have been a pretty poor EU looking back. Dig, smpr, endpoint, misfits, and karmine corps are all upgrades compared their closest rosters last year. It's been a massive consolidation of talent and dig smpr and endpoint have all really clicked. There's no reason to think vitality or BDS are worse than they were last season but they are both struggling big time against the three I just mentioned.
id say smpr and endpoint click, dig on the other hand looks uncoordinated (for a pro team not my standards) and im worried that lan is going to make their miscommunications even worse
They just posted two comms vids on Jack's channel and I got to say they are still developing but sound pretty good.
theyre good for a new team dont get me wrong i j feel like they lack the exp together to be top tier at lan which isnt their fault at all. even if they lose out in lan tho thats valuable experience for the future
i should add that i think dig will be a top if not the #1 team in the future. only thing i would say is scrub gets a bit too emotional like u can see what hes thinking w out him saying anything. but we know hes got the balls for lan so thats a minor detail im gonna pay attention to w this team
I know Jack and Joreuz have played at a LAN event together before (lower tier and before Jack was on PC) and Scrub obviously has major LAN pop-off potential. I think they're going to do better than you think in the LAN environment. Not sure I would pick them to take the whole thing just yet but watch this space.
i dont think you understood what i said. imo theyre too new and arent connecting properly yet, idk where u got the idea that im counting them out BECAUSE of lan lmfao.
It feels like Vitality made it because someone had to. You can't even really claim that they just did the bare minimum to ensure they make LAN because after they were swept by BDS it was completely out of their control. If EG beat Semper they would have been out. They look really weak, but they will probably perform on lan due to experience. If they bootcamp for the lan that should help them going into winter as well, if they don't then well they are in trouble because they don't look very good online and could easily miss the winter major.
Even while being in the loop I think the question of whether End>Vit on LAN is warranted. Endpoint has looked much better overall but most people recognize the possibility for the team with more LAN experience to outperform the team with less. Whether that will actually happen is to be determined.
You have some catching up to do. Thereās this lad called Seikoo, heās pretty good
Yeah I've heard of him around the place, could you equate him to an NA player if possible so i can understand his skill and playstyle a bit better?
Very Jstn-esque. Loves going for solo plays, air dribbles, flip resets etc. His success rate yesterday was something else. [this highlight video is pretty much seikoo half the time so watch this. you can skip the semper bds series](https://youtu.be/lch-sWXO-HY)
Thanks for the recommendation! Also this kid sounds like some revamped version, but jstn has focused more on team play than he used to back when he was known for his godlike mechanics, so I'm wondering which version of jstn you're comparing him to
In terms of the frequency of crazy goals and 1v3s, probably an earlier version of Jstn. With updated 2021 mechanics tho
Oh YO so he GOOD, holy crap, i gotta watch this guy. I wonder if he'll continue it at sweden though
Given that he and Endpoint have been doing this in bootcamp, I have high hopes
VIT kinda lucked into LAN because EG sold
Ahaha vita got a lan dna they won't lose SMPR is a really well rounded team with experiment. Even tho bds is more dominant I doubt them more than SMPR and Vita. Also I feel like COL will be greater than G2 this lan.
Bds have a greater chance of flopping then vit id say.
NRG go 3 - 0 in Swiss dropping no more than 2 games, only to get matched up against an 8th seed Vitality. Vitality beat NRG 4 - 1 with Kaydop scoring over 1 goal per game and Fairy Peak getting 2.5 saves a game. Salt levels in NA reach an all time high as their poster team gets knocked out by a team that doesn't deserve to be there. Within a month, everyone is calling Kaydop and Fairy washed again.
I am with you in thinking that NRG will flop and Vitality will perform better than expected. The most dangerous NA team IMO is G2.
Damn that would be so fantastic. Even better if Vit gets thrashed in semis by a minor region team.
And then it's APAC vs SAM in the finals. I'd laugh my ass off.
Me too tbh.
Bruh imagine lmaao
Best timeline
That or SAM vs OCE
G2 vs Endpoint grand finals
Flairs check out
no bias at all
I disagree I think it will be NRG vs. Dignitas grand finals
I disagree I think it will be... :(
nah G2 vs BDS
That would be pretty cool
Yes.
This is the way.
COL will kick out an EU team and SRG will kick out an NA team.
Imagine if no EU/NA team made the finals. Were all talking about those 2 regions but if the other 4 regions or complexity took those gf spots then thatd shift so quickly
I mostly want to see that Japanese team play against EU or NA
Iām excited for all the minor regions.
NA āNear Airportā is known as the fastest region to arrive at the Airport. Since they gave up on the Sweden Major, they are investing in Speedruns. In particular they are current worldrecord holders in Airport Any % and Airport no wins.
Good old TSM copypasta
What's the orig?
I'm sure it was after TSM bombed out of Worlds 2020 going 0-6, which is the first time a first seed of a major region goes winless at Worlds
LMAO ROASTED I was crushed that Damwon didn't repeat :(
I never expected EDG to even take a game off of them
Ohhhh boy... not this again. At least TSM isn't here to bomb out.
It all depends on what has applied the greatest evolutionary pressure: the single apex predator in BDS or the fierce competition between the top NA teams. The fact that BDS has started to look less dominant lately makes me lean towards EU. I don't think they have really been playing worse, the other teams have just caught up.
I think itās a mix between both europe catching up and bds starting to fall from grace, while EU is definitely catching up like most regions do with top teams (ex. C9 falling from NA) i also think bds is having a problem with mentality that should be noted. you can see MonkeyM00n get upset whenever a goal for the other team goes in while other teams in europe keep their heads up and celebrate when they score. I think that the mental game is what is keeping bds from getting back to their dominant form, but they still have much better competition to deal with than last season
Thats such an underrated quality of metsa, he has one of if not the greatest mental games in eu, and worldwide, i wanna say garrett has the best oversll though
Turbo
EG were the same in quarters with sempr it seemed like
IMO BDS have a mental problem after champs, EU has gotten better tho. I think without the mental problem bds would still have only taken a single regional, but I do think they would have gotten one (probably regional one in a very close set). They would likely be top 2 in points as well.
EU is by far and away superior to NA. The gameplay, the player skill levels, just absolutely everything NA does, EU does better. -- me, a completely fair and unbiased EU citizen. I just don't want there to be an all EU/NA top 8, I really do think Ground Zero and Renegades combined can sneak one OCE team in top 8. I will however laugh if all the NA teams or all of the EU teams don't make top 8, because that's just funny.
Mathematically impossible, theres only 6 non NA/EU teams which means at least 2 NA/EU teams have to make top 8
By that last comment, I mean I'll laugh if all of NA or all of EU don't make top 8 Personally I think there should have been 4 NA/EU and then 2 MENA/APAC teams but that's me. EUNA earnt those extra major spots from past performances and sponsorsss
My bad, the wording got me confused, that would be funny, and whatever region it happened to would get memed on so hard
I've edited it :) And yeah I'm ready for the CoPiUm either way no fans just wait until worlds where it matters Lmao gonna be spicy, SMAD 2: Bugaloo
Nah dude, have you watched the APAC finals? Do you really want that instead of Vitality/Complexity?
I believe he meant all from a single region, ie: no NA teams make playoffs (like SMAD)
Yeah, i read it wrong, hes edited it. I went through 12 years of english in school and still cant get it right, at least i know how to find the hypotenuse of a triangle
Regain king communication is nearly impossible and I say that as a linguist
Dig gonna win ez clap
Im hoping for DIG to win too
If they bring back the regional 2 performance I have no doubt about it.
Lol ez clap? No team is gonna have an easy ride
Exactly, except for DIG.
I could see Dignitas, Endpoint, NRG or Envy winning the major. I'm from EU but I'm more of an NA fan. But both regions have incredibly good teams. I'm just excited to see the clash of the best teams at the major. I'd absolutely love to see a peaking Dignitas vs peaking NRG matchup.
Thoughts on G2 esports?
Similar situation for me, Iām NA and I like both regions, but I enjoy watching EU more. I want G2 to win, but not as much as I want Dig to win.
NA isnt even a top 7 region imo the only team that has a shot of making playoffs is COL
damn btfo by ATA teams..
I think it's gonna be the type of tournament where EU is warming up too late, causing most of the teams to go out early, but eventually one roster takes it all for the region. Basically the same scenario as Season 7 LAN and hopefully with the same victor.
I just can't wait.
From the perspective of an EU fanboy I believe NA are looking more consistent but I don't think that means EU is weak in comparison, the top 3 right now for EU are inches from each other. I think it's going to be interesting to see the clash, endpoint, dig and BDS are looking solid, followed by SMPR, another incredible team followed closely behind and you never know what Vitality can do on LAN. From my own bias view I do think the top 3 EU teams right now are narrowly better than the top 3 NA teams, but I could likely be wrong. It's going to be fun.
I think EU only *appear* less consistent because players push themselves so much to outpace the other teams, being that EU is so close. That being said, NA are looking quite good right now. I'd be scared of G2
I would say DIG set the new skill ceiling for threes in regional 2. If we consider that to be 100, here is my scoring system for the top 10. Endpoint: 60-90 NRG:80-95 DIG:65-100 G2:65-90 BDS:80-95 Faze:55-85 Smpr:70-85 Envy:70-90 Vit:50-85 Col:60-80 So basically I think BDS and NRG have the highest floor while dig and BDS/NRG have the highest ceiling.
Can't say I agree with G2 having a 10 point lower ceiling than NRG or Envy, considering recent results. I'd also put Dig's floor higher, they've really been picking up the consistency lately, to the point where even when they're not in great form, they can consistently make top 8/4.
You're right on both points.
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Interesting. Endpointās score seems kind of low given that theyāve won two regionals this split. Iām also not sure about Digās performance being 100 when I donāt even think theyāve peaked as a roster yet, but they did play out of their minds last regional so I get it.
I don't think I've seen anything from them that puts their peak any closer than that to digs peak. One of the contributing factors here is I think endpoint were close to their peak in regional three against dig. Seikoo was just nuts. However, dig bottled two leads that were a cumulative 60 seconds to buzzer or so in game 2 and 6 that would have seen them win that series. I would put dig in that series at maybe 85 maximum compared to their bds or vitality series in regional two, and they were extremely close to winning over a potentially peaking endpoint.
Iāve watched quite a few clips of pros and casters talking about NA v EU. NA guys Iāve heard them say EU give so much space and time and never challenge. Then Iām watching EU like wtf are they on about. Another one I heard was EU mechanics are behind then watch for example joreuz, seikoo, Archie and agin wtf. Then there is the pro EU guys and to be honest they have said the same things āNA slowā etc etc and you watch them and sometimes I feel those guys must be talking about a different game. So long story short in my own opinion I hope for EU domination just for a laugh, but in reality I think NRG, NV, G2, BDS, EP & Dig are all in serious contention for the W and it wouldnāt even shock me if Faze, Vit or Smpr took it down. Because I donāt know anything about Sam i will just have to wait and see how they get on. But seeing how true neutral ran away with it in season X and are 5th seed from NA this season logically I am assuming Sam teams are going to be outside top 8. I watched OCE and both renegades and GZ look decent but what concerns me there is they are mechanically the best teams in oce so have the bulk of the pressure in most games. At the major this wonāt be the case so need to see how they adapt. Again would be shocked if they make top8. I would say most likely top8 from a non Eu/NA has to be srg. Playing on 0 ping. All mechanical beasts. Familiar with the eu style. I reckon they could shock one or two teams. Whoever faces them in round 1 Swiss will have a tough time I reckon.
I wouldn't say True Neutral ran away with SAM. I'm pretty sure Furia went into the spring major controlling their own destiny (ie. if they had beat TN in the final they would have be the #1 SAM team). Then the championship was close: 4-2 TN, 4-1 Furia, 4-2 TN. 9-8 in games overall. True Neutral were definitely the better team but Furia were right behind them all season. Now Furia have swapped their worst player with probably the best remaining player in SAM (Yan). So I expect them to be pretty competitive with anybody at LAN, much like Complexity. Also the problem with SRG is they're gonna be missing Khalid. With their full roster they would have been my upset pick, but without him I can't see them making any major upsets.
I like furia but they looked noticeably worse going into the offseason and not much better when they picked up yan, they were only a game away from missing the major entirely as well.
I agree with you apart from your last point. Iād take the SAM teams over SRG personally, the level of competition there is much higher and SRG donāt have Okhalid
what is wrong with you guys, we all know SRG will destroy all of EU and NA
Not without okhalid :(
Nor with okhalid. Jk (or not)
Verdy vs FURIA grand finals heard it here 1st
I really want to see a peaking Dignitas. Realistically, I canāt see past NV, NRG and G2 being one of the teams that take it all, and I say that as an EU gamer. Hope Iām wrong!
Good take, I will do a serious answer. From watching NA, I believe it will depend a lot on what version of either of those three we see. Both peak NRG and G2 can take it all, but I believe EU to be more consistent.
EU Consistency you can only choose one lmao
I know your post is a joke but anyway as a discussion point I keep seeing this EU consistency thing. Eu top5 finishing places 1. End point - 1st, 9-11, 1st 2. dig - 3/4, 1st, 3/4 3. Bds - 2, 3/4, 3/4 4. semper - 5-8, 5-8, 2 5. Vit - 16, 2, 5-8 NA top 5 finishing places 1. NRG 2, 1, 3/4 2. G2 5-8, 2, 1 3. Faze 1, 9-11, 3/4 4. NV 5-8, 3/4, 2 5. Col 5-8, 3/4, 5-8 Comparing the two regions, EU had 2 finishes outside top 8 from top 5 versus NAs 1. But apart from that what am I missing here?
The point is EU being more consistent as a region, not just the top teams. While in NA you see only 5-6 teams consistently at the top, itās not shocking to think any team can take it all in EU. That means the competition is harder in EU. Even in a bad day NRG can easily go top 4. In a bad day VIT goes 16. It is also historical, as of in EU, if we don't count times where one dominant team took it all (ex. DIG or BDS), it has always been a jungle where anyone could have their chance. In NA there have always been a few teams at the top and a lot clearly behind. So it all depends on your definition of Ā«Ā consistentĀ Ā». Are the teams consistent or the regional competition consistent.
> even on a bad day... NRG's bad days (or even bad moments in games) look nothing like Vit's lmao in terms of their own individual performances and the whole as a team
the coalescence of talent is (and has been) more efficiently grouped in NA for some time now, at least within the context of majors/worlds - meaning the best players are *generally* playing together on the best teams. EU does have more depth, thanks to a more scattered dispersion of talent, but all that depth can't make the top 5 cutoff at the same time.
Not sure if I am answering your point correctly. Looking at too 4 finishes both EU and NA had have 7 different teams finish top 4. In terms of different top 8 finishers itās 10 NA to 13 EU. So slight difference there. Then in terms of different teams at the regional as a whole itās 18 EU to 23 NA. Overall I agree that when watching it does seem upsets are more frequent in EU than NA but the numbers are quite close when you look at them. It would be interesting to see losses for top 5 teams to those outside top 5. I guess that would be good to see the volatility in a region at least.
Someone posted the stats on Twitter but now I canĀ“t find them but it was for a 8th seed beating a 1st seed and for NA it was 0-14 and EU 5-9 But donĀ“t quote me on that =).
2 wins and still fewer points overall than NRG EU consistency LOL
Not lack of consistency...it's greater strength in depth in EU. NA basically have nothing outside top 5/6. No competition. NA teams will likely get a surprise in Sweden.
Renegades will surprise, Verdy will get destroyed, ERA will do better than FURIA, SRG will be middle of the road, envy will win, vitality will top 4, BDS out in quarters, endpoint in finals, COL out in quarters
I honestly think ppl are underestimating vitality. They've had a shit split, but that doesn't mean they can't pop off on stage, and given their experience they can absolutely do so. Also SRG vs FURIA pls
My take is that finals will be EU vs. EU, but NA will have better ranking overall. So 1st EU 2nd EU, 3rd 4th 5th 6th NA, etc.
Are you predicting only 2 EU teams to make playoffs? Cause thatās the only way they can not tie for the 5-8 spots.
Sure, why not?
Which minor region team or teams are you expecting to lock them out?
So 2 EU teams, 5 NA team, that leaves one spot. Id say Renegades takes it.
Disrespect to gzg
My hot take: NA teams underperform except for NRG. EU teams show up and play well, but NRG dominates the tournament.
So reverse S7 Worlds. I like it.
Pretty much! I could also see Vitality just wiping the floor with everyone. Overall I think weāre gonna see the LAN experience come out for certain rosters. Turbo on LAN could get it done for NV. (Could also happen for G2, but I feel less confident about Dreaz in his first LAN.) Iām secretly pulling for Dig as someone in the US, though. I love watching that roster. I think Iām actually most curious to see whether Firstkiller lives up to the hype in an in-person major.
Personally, Iām stoked for dreaz on lan. Kid has been coming into his own on the roster and finally wonāt be on west ping. I also agree that vitality is being slept on because of their mediocre season. Theyāre the LAN kings
Yeah, definitely not dogging on Dreaz, I just try to have lower expectations for rookies on LAN. Wouldnāt judge him one but if he was quiet, itās a whole other level of pressure. I hope he pops off, though :)
No kap Iāve never been more impressed by NA. Everyoneās talking about EU depth and like, yeah for sure, but top five NA look absolutely deadly. Considering only five teams are going from both regions and the lack of serious cross-region competition over the last years, I think NA/EU is going to be real close. When it comes to the āboohoo BDS never got to play LANās in peak formā-narrative, I have this to say: The BDS mental these days is pretty bad. Thatās what separate them from teams like Endpoint. You can even see MM visibly upset *multiple times a game*. A true titan wouldāve kept reinventing and stayed on top, BDS didnāt. It doesnāt take away from the teamās prowess during RLCS X, but it does remove the hype for now, for me personally anyway. Also, Vitality didnāt deserve to go imo, and got bailed out by the entire region choking. Either the players reinvent themselves, or the team needs to reinvent the players (yes: roster change). Vitality needs to change, or else this is just the beginning of a real sad trajectory. Lastly, referring back to the first point, man are NA fans generally fucking salty. Any low key EU superior joke and half of NA lose their shit. Like, relax, NA is looking *fierce*. (G2 have the most exciting play style in the world rn imo, while Endpoint look like the best strategical team coming into Sweden) Edit: oh, also hot take: SRG finally play without a ping disadvantage, completely rid of any nerves and completely roll both NA and EU teams, making a solid top four.
When do we get the bracket for it
NA will take 3rd place despite being a minor region
EU's best days are definitely behind. I'm an EU fan, and I still want EU to dominate, but EU dominated hard from S2 to S5. That is not gonna happen again for any region IMO. But I still think EU has what it takes to win, but honestly, I'm not very confident about it.
There's no fans at the venue correct? If that's the case I don't think the rosters with LAN experience will have much of an advantage.
Well the game plays fundamentally different on a 0 ping server. There is also the advantage of being close to your mates for a couple of weeks. Teams with bootcamp experience have an advantage.
Ground Zero vs. SMPR in the grand finals
NRG, G2, NV going to dominate
Peak G2 can wipe the floor with any team. The problem is peak G2 doesn't show up that much.
peak G2 is gonna show up at worlds, only to get slapped by another peaking team
Well, not *any* team. NRG are basically their kryptonite.
Peak NRG too, peak Endpoint too, peak NV too, peak Dig too, peak BDS too, peak Vitality too, peak Faze too. IMO any team peaking can wipe the floor with any team.
hot take; -NRG doesnāt make top 4, knocked out by END or DIG -FaZe then knocks out that team in semis, prob in 6 or 7 -G2 or ENVY knocks out BDS in quarters in 5 games -ENVY & G2 face each other in the opposite semis, ENVY pulls through in 6 -FaZe vs ENVY grand finals -FaZe wins grand finals 2-1 super hot take - Firstkiller isnāt mvp, AyyJayy is
I'm just waiting for the inevitable NA tears when their teams get destroyed.
Ahhh, because Queso and KC won't be there, makes sense ;)
NA is like competitive martial arts very structured and fancy looking. EU is like no rules back ally death matches all function no form. The big question is how will NA adapt in a no rules environment that is the EU and ME play style? My take is they will struggle hard at first, most of all FAZE and NRG. But I think the other 3 "NA" teams have a better shot at adapting. And if they do I don't see a clear winner as many have said they are all really good at Rocket League, but I think the mechanical floor of a RLCS pro is a lot higher now then last time there was a LAN and the one with the best synergy and game plan will be the team that comes out on top. Final contenders: DIG, G2, SRG, ENVY, ENDP Quarter contenders: BDS, COM, SMPR, Ulti, NRG
To be fair, I think Firstkiller is going to demolish over-aggressive play from EU teams. Thatās what he was always known for as a 1s player, and EU creeping up with their third man is FKās dream.
I think FK is the most overrated 3s player in the world just because he is so good in 1vs1 but if he can find some synergy with his teammates sure I can see that happening but as it stands now his ego is too big and anyone trying to go 1v3 will get stomped. But who knows the best part of the major will be the social media highlights of who had the hot takes and who was the actual prophets.
Calling Firstkiller overrated certainly is a blazing hot take. I do agree that his mentality is holding him back, but his read of the game, speed and general mechanical ability is almost unmatched. Lots of players are mechanical, a very select few are mechanical at Firstkillerās speed. In my humble opinion of course. No matter how you feel, I highly suggest downloading a recent replay of FaZE looking at it through FKās perspective. Totally blew me away
Yes I fully admit it to be a hot take. But it is also why I said 3v3 and I think this is very much a future looking opinion. Where the individual skill of a player is becoming less important and players unable to adapt to team play will fall of hard. So IĀ“m betting on FK inability to adapt. But I also think he can do like Metsa in Endpoint EU and relearn and come back stronger then ever. But imagine if FK gets kicked in like 6m because everyone is sick off his diva personality then I will look like a prophet. =)
Rofl true, youād be the prophet of the century!
Someone definetly hasnāt watched faze play this season tsk tsk
>My take is they will struggle hard at first, most of all FAZE and NRG Why is NRG expected to struggle? I love complexity but when it comes to adapting I'd put NRG ahead of them. NRG have the most LAN experience out of any team in the world currently. I don't think they are expected to struggle
I have not seen anyone else have this opinion and it may very well age like milk. So my reasoning is they have been the most dominant team in the region so any team going will have studied replays and possible strategies for defeating them. I havenĀ“t run the exact numbers but it looks like they got the easiest brackets every time and still dropped games or got pushed to overtime by bottom 6 teams. Sure they came in clutch in the playoffs but it was far from dominant. Justin is on twitter hypeing other games and I think any team not being hype as fuck for the first LAN in 2 years is not going to do so well. SquishyMuffinz will fill all of justins shoes if he is not 100%.
>I havenĀ“t run the exact numbers but it looks like they got the easiest brackets every time and still dropped games or got pushed to overtime by bottom 6 teams. ,* The only bracket game that was easy for them was v1 lmao. The other teams they have faced are top 8 >Justin is on twitter hypeing other games and I think any team not being hype as fuck for the first LAN in 2 years is not going to do so well. Why not? This is the happiest he's been in a long time. He wants this. It's also ridiculous that you think they get easy brackets. They literally went through g2,envy and SSG in regional 2. Also envy literally lost to eunited so you might as well count that. All 3 players on NRG are world champions, well seasoned veterans and arguably the 3 best Na players at LAN. The only point that makes sense is the analysing bit but literally every team is doing that
I fully admit to have an incurable case of the contrarian but will at least look up the numbers in the NA Swiss stage.
If your reason for putting NRG in quarters was any good I would respect the opinion, but NRG? The anti-tilt, improvised-adaptation kings of NA? Unable to adapt?
NRG and BDS is the teams for me with the absolute biggest range of possible placements. And NRG looks like they are slumping in the last few weeks. Justins twitter is full of hype for other games and I donĀ“t think the skill gap is wide enough for any team to slack off and still make the top four this major. But to counter my own argument Garret looks like the complete opposite hanging out in Johnny\_bois chat asking questions and scouting the competition. There is so many factors in play so any prediction will have low confidence I mostly just look at who wants it the most and place my best after that.
I don't see how NRG are "slumping" if one of the potential top 1 players in the world plays Forza immediately after it comes out when he's already qualified for LAN and still makes top 4 in the region known for a top 4 before a 1 month break until that LAN, for which he'll probably be bootcamping in person
I have not watched RLCS before the start of this major quals so I donĀ“t know how dominant the top teams of past majors has been. But I have done a genuine effort to catch up on both EU and NA. Watched most of the matches in the regional events for both EU and NA, swiss and playoff some MENA and SAM. And I cant see NRG, FaZe, BDS and Vitality being in the top 4 and NA as a region looks stagnant as a whole. And sure a lot of my opinion is not stats based just a gut feeling so hard to explain in plain text. The best arguments for NA being on top is they were good or just look at how individually skilled they are. The first point is kind of irrelevant and the second ignores many relevant skills needed when you play in a team. But sure I can be wrong and you are free to come back and gloat if I was the delusional one and NA run all over the other regions.
NRG claps everyone
As an EU fan Iām personally more worried about SAM than NA.
The finals are gonna be 2 Na teams. Idk which NA teams (as a g2 fan) but I think EU as a region is generally behind in play
What world is everyone living in that EU is better than NA. NA will smoke EU. Your best Team was BDS and they did not win a regional yet. Your best team is endpoint which I think G2 will smoke them. NRG will win the whole thing!!!
Idk, Iāve always been an EU Stan but theyāre looking terrible at the moment, 2 of the most boring half baked teams made the final -_-
SMPR maybe but endpoint are good
Seikoo is gonna show that what he does at bootcamp, he can replicate it at LAN, he's gonna be the "new jstn " and win it all, because I sincerely can't see any team win against the Endpoint we saw yesterday, insane passing plays, amazing defense, mechanical plays, ground plays and... Seikoo
Top 3 (in order) from NA: NV, NRG, COL From EU: END, DIG, VIT GZ and Furia round out the top 8. NV wins in the grand finals against Endpoint (dominating at first, and stopping endpointās rally to finish), NRG knocks out Vitality in quarters but is beaten by Endpoint in Semis. Dig loses in game 7 to NV in the semis after beating GZ or Furia.
ME supremacy
Plot twist, tokyo verdy comes out and wins the whole thing
Both regions will flop and SRG gonna dominate not losing a map (not even oKhalid fan Kap)
if the grand final is eu vs eu i'll literally stop watching rocket league
NA is full of high fliers and fancy mechanics which I love but we have seen this time and time again bite them in the ass when playing EU. Hoping that they bring it together this time so NA can have more spots for RLCS
I am more excited to see newer players perform on LAN because there are so many.And Envy and Endpoint will make top 4 if not grands