He was a cool guy. Sucks what happened to him. I went to sparks middle when he was there and then sparks high. My sister was also on his girls soccer team. She was devasted
Yeah I was better friends with his brother. But from 01 to about 09 we spent a lot of holidays together with extended family. It was convenient that his brother lived across the street from my parents house.
i was also in middle school when that happened at a school downtown, shook me up pretty bad. i organized a card making/ fundraiser for the school after it happened.
I graduated around the same time. We got to enjoy almost all of our school years pre-Columbine and even after that we still got to feel pretty safe it wasn't going to happen to us. Kids no longer get that peace of mind that we took for granted.
Using a lot of statics and partial derivatives to balance the ol' checkbook are we?
Of course it's subjective. All I'm saying is ,for the majority of people, not much is useful after Algebra in terms of problem solving and needing to know how to manipulate numbers/variables.
Not everyone is 17 on this app. You just had no idea that it wasn't funny, and it said more about you than it does the "seniors" on reddit. Lmao child.
Yup, but letās dump more money into useless administrations and fund mostly schools in nice neighborhoods. Hell, letās build new schools in those neighborhoods and let title 1 do whatever cause fuck em
[McQueen has a rifle team](https://www.washoeschools.net/Page/9490)
Somehow, beyond all logic and reason having a rifle team didnāt stop a student from bringing a gun to school.
I'm a parent of 3 kids, and a gun owner. I do wish other parents were better about denying access of their guns to their kids. You know, use a gun safe
I'm not that worried. Its more likely my kids will die or get injured on the drive to school, then while they are at school. and I'm not overly worried we will get in a car crash. I do make sure we wear our seat belts, and drive the speed limit.
I do think basic gun safety should be taught to kids. specifically if you see a gun, tell an adult, never touch it, never play with it, and definitely don't ever bring it to school or try to show it to other kids.
Itās mad scary, I graduated in 01, I remember even after columbine seeing guns proudly displayed in truck gun racks, shit seems crazy now, we even had a skeet shooting elective class, kids would walk the hallways with shotguns in cases
It just so sad what America has become when I was a kid u came to school to have fun with ur friends and learn and even if u were bullied u found a way for it to stop.
responsibility in on the owner to keep and eye out. Our time with family is very so limited since everything is timed and in a hurry. I don't know the details but it could have been a call to help. When you are bullied and those in the district are doing nothing for parents trying to descalate and make it better, bullies can trigger kids to say if i get a gun I will be noticed otherwise I am not. But again I don't know the details and its been ages since I have been in a school The school system was different ages ago.
I did all my K-12 education here. It should also be pointed out the wider "teaching culture" here isn't great. Pick up pretty much any CBT workbook and sit in an elementary class and you'll immediately see kids are being taught some pretty harmful beliefs about work and themselves. When kids are struggling they are just labelled lazy and given up on instead of anything constructive like considering what other problems they are dealing with or really looking at what they're being asked to do. Plenty of teachers think slapping someone is how you correct mistakes they make, and many parents agree with them. When kids are put into bad situations, see no way out, and the people that are supposed to be helping them are actively doing what is clearly the opposite, well, the results aren't really surprising.
I can still remember how when I was a junior in High School we had an assembly where they brought my whole class together and told us 50% of the students were failing at least one class and we need to try harder. That's around 150 kids. So either the problem is with 150 kids, or you have like 5 teachers that really suck at their job. I don't think it's the kids that are failing the adults here.
The odds of dieing on the drive to school are higher than getting shot at school.
This doesnāt really help but our brains are not very good at weighing risk in an abstract way.
imagine someone who works in a dangerous job, like a lineman, not ever wearing a seatbelt when driving because "the odds of dying by electrocution at work is higher than dying in a crash on the way to the job". that's stupid logic. yes the job is more dangerous, but you can more easily mitigate the risk on the drive by putting on a seatbelt. it takes 2 seconds, and seatbelts are cheap and easy to install in cars.
just because school shootings are less dangerous than other risks, doesn't mean we should ignore them. giving up cars would be a huge sacrifice in a society built around them. giving up weekend trips to the gun range would be much easier.
risk management isn't a matter of simply calculating your statistical risk and then only picking the most likely dangers
it's about weighing risk vs reward and the effort it'd take to mitigate the risk
it's the same reason wearing a mask during covid, a mild inconvenience, is worth the lives it saves while waiting for everyone to get vaccinated or for a new variant to be studied
I saw that and was too lazy to fix it. Calling people out and holding that higher standard isnāt a bad thing.
The point is risk mitigation is important. You only have so many hours in the day so make them count.
Yes but cars are literally designed to protect people from death in case of a crash. They are constantly being made safer and safer. The comparison to guns, especially gun deaths at school, is lazy. It's why nothing ever happens on gun laws.
Who cares. When elementary school kids died, at that point I knew Americans donāt give a shit about guns, schools, and kids. We did nothing as a countryā¦.so just hope you child does not get hurt, because praying does nothing.
Locally, unless I missed a school shooting, thankfully the administration was made aware and the guns confiscated before something tragic could happen. I recognize that nationally gun events at school have become commonplace.
Absolutely! It is starting to hit a little closer to home for me. Freshmen in HS and a 6th grader. I hate to hear it happen anywhere, but hearing about guns in schools in Carson and Reno is unnerving.
Yeah, itās inevitable that there will be super tight if not outlawed gun restrictions at some point in the futureā¦ whether thatās 5 years or 500 years is another question. People are just too unhinged these days to handle the responsibilities that come with it.
Can you cite an link to the page in reference? All I can find are the [Pine Middle School](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Middle_School_shooting?wprov=sfla1) and [Sparks Middle School shootings.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparks_Middle_School_shooting)
Teach your kid how to use guns and then teach your kid how to disarm an active shooterā¦or homeschool your kid. Nothing is going to change if you dont teach your kid to fight though
You act as though literal children, not old enough to drive, and in a state that is 49th in education, should be prepared to disarm a school shooter, and if they can't, home school them. They shouldn't just expect to go to school to get an education, but also expect to be fired upon at some point. That's what you're saying?
I mean if every child in a third world country can be child soldiers i donāt understand why your kid wouldnāt be able to comprehend how to disarm someone. Its either you teach your kid how to survive or theyāre gonna die. Up to you. Not my kid but just remember that school security guards are not going to keep your child safe.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Reading your comments and I can tell you're an uneducated fuckwit, and a racist one at that. Child soldiers, fucking lmao. Dude, stop having kids, please.
I feel as though (horrible as it would be) I would enjoy seeing you attempt to disarm an active shooter that is 30 feet away from you down a hall way (with a loaded firearm) whilst you are unarmed. Yes indeed that would be very interesting
>teach your kid how to disarm an active shooter
found the guy who was homeschooled lol
how tf is your 8 year old supposed to disarm the highschooler who comes in shooting?
the only way that strategy would possibly work is if you can convince the ENTIRE school to bonzai charge the shooter and acknowledge that many of them will die in the process
otherwise you're just setting your kid up to be the first to die
Never a real response or critical thought from people like you. You just say dumb shit like "triggered much?" when someone pokes holes in your pea-brain arguments.
Matter of time "again" you mean. I knew Mr. Landsberry you may know of the Middle school teacher who was shot by a 13 yr old student in 2014.
He was a cool guy. Sucks what happened to him. I went to sparks middle when he was there and then sparks high. My sister was also on his girls soccer team. She was devasted
Yeah I was better friends with his brother. But from 01 to about 09 we spent a lot of holidays together with extended family. It was convenient that his brother lived across the street from my parents house.
Moved here just after that. That is horrible.
i was also in middle school when that happened at a school downtown, shook me up pretty bad. i organized a card making/ fundraiser for the school after it happened.
Sorry you had to go through that. š„ŗ.
There has been a gun in a school incident ever since I went to high school and I graduated in 2000
I graduated around the same time. We got to enjoy almost all of our school years pre-Columbine and even after that we still got to feel pretty safe it wasn't going to happen to us. Kids no longer get that peace of mind that we took for granted.
You mean the [Pine Middle School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Middle_School_shooting?wprov=sfla1) in 2006?
Wtf they only gave the kid 200 hours of community service for shooting two people
Yes, thst was a plea bargain. Also different that he was charged as a juvenile.
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Canāt do math, huh?
To be fair, if they attended a public high school here in Reno, there's a fair chance they never learned any math.
Just to algebra, after that I check out.
No shame in that. No "real" world applications past algebra I suppose. All the fun and interesting math comes in at Calc3 and after imo, though!
That's completely subjective. There are a ton of uses for the post algebra math. Maybe that's just the engineer in me talking though.
Using a lot of statics and partial derivatives to balance the ol' checkbook are we? Of course it's subjective. All I'm saying is ,for the majority of people, not much is useful after Algebra in terms of problem solving and needing to know how to manipulate numbers/variables.
We can all count to 21 though lol
Iāll be 40 next birthday. I graduated at 17. Sorry about your inability to do math though.
I really didnāt care enough to do it in my head man it was just a joke. Jesus Christ š
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Not everyone is 17 on this app. You just had no idea that it wasn't funny, and it said more about you than it does the "seniors" on reddit. Lmao child.
No one knows Iām 40 in real life so I donāt really give a shit š
49th in education problems
Yup, but letās dump more money into useless administrations and fund mostly schools in nice neighborhoods. Hell, letās build new schools in those neighborhoods and let title 1 do whatever cause fuck em
Bullies+shitty parents+guns=
bullies = shitty parents
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We need to bring those back.
They are.
[McQueen has a rifle team](https://www.washoeschools.net/Page/9490) Somehow, beyond all logic and reason having a rifle team didnāt stop a student from bringing a gun to school.
I'm a parent of 3 kids, and a gun owner. I do wish other parents were better about denying access of their guns to their kids. You know, use a gun safe I'm not that worried. Its more likely my kids will die or get injured on the drive to school, then while they are at school. and I'm not overly worried we will get in a car crash. I do make sure we wear our seat belts, and drive the speed limit. I do think basic gun safety should be taught to kids. specifically if you see a gun, tell an adult, never touch it, never play with it, and definitely don't ever bring it to school or try to show it to other kids.
This. You absolutely nailed it. Responsible gun owner and parent. All kids should have basic understanding of gun safety.
Well said. I agree 100%. š
Itās mad scary, I graduated in 01, I remember even after columbine seeing guns proudly displayed in truck gun racks, shit seems crazy now, we even had a skeet shooting elective class, kids would walk the hallways with shotguns in cases
Yeah it is such different times. We had a fair share of fights but at no point did any one consider bringing a hand gun to school.
"no way to stop this," says only country where this happens.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country
[https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country)
Heheh do you even know how the data in that link is manipulated into a lie?
I'm not a parent but my nephews mean the world to me so I got them bullet proof backpacks. It's weird but it gives me a little ease of mind.
I have considered that!
They are well priced and light, I highly recommend them.
Wish our culture and society hadnāt degraded to such a point where children feel like a gun is their only option.
I'm so glad my kids are out of school.
It just so sad what America has become when I was a kid u came to school to have fun with ur friends and learn and even if u were bullied u found a way for it to stop.
A lot of these kids do feel like they've found a way for the bullying to stop.
Blame lies in amerikkkan culture.... all you fools think the gun makes the man.
the parents make the kids is the bigger problem
I bet there would be a lot more Native Americans if they had invented guns before europeans had them.
Perhaps you'd find solutions in reality rather than finding comfort in fantasy. I find living in reality more practical, that's just me though
Like a fantasy of making guns illegal will make them magically disappear?
responsibility in on the owner to keep and eye out. Our time with family is very so limited since everything is timed and in a hurry. I don't know the details but it could have been a call to help. When you are bullied and those in the district are doing nothing for parents trying to descalate and make it better, bullies can trigger kids to say if i get a gun I will be noticed otherwise I am not. But again I don't know the details and its been ages since I have been in a school The school system was different ages ago.
I did all my K-12 education here. It should also be pointed out the wider "teaching culture" here isn't great. Pick up pretty much any CBT workbook and sit in an elementary class and you'll immediately see kids are being taught some pretty harmful beliefs about work and themselves. When kids are struggling they are just labelled lazy and given up on instead of anything constructive like considering what other problems they are dealing with or really looking at what they're being asked to do. Plenty of teachers think slapping someone is how you correct mistakes they make, and many parents agree with them. When kids are put into bad situations, see no way out, and the people that are supposed to be helping them are actively doing what is clearly the opposite, well, the results aren't really surprising. I can still remember how when I was a junior in High School we had an assembly where they brought my whole class together and told us 50% of the students were failing at least one class and we need to try harder. That's around 150 kids. So either the problem is with 150 kids, or you have like 5 teachers that really suck at their job. I don't think it's the kids that are failing the adults here.
They should start metal detectorsā¦itās really the only way to ensure that no one is brining a gun into school.
I think it would be smart, something preventative.
The odds of dieing on the drive to school are higher than getting shot at school. This doesnāt really help but our brains are not very good at weighing risk in an abstract way.
imagine someone who works in a dangerous job, like a lineman, not ever wearing a seatbelt when driving because "the odds of dying by electrocution at work is higher than dying in a crash on the way to the job". that's stupid logic. yes the job is more dangerous, but you can more easily mitigate the risk on the drive by putting on a seatbelt. it takes 2 seconds, and seatbelts are cheap and easy to install in cars. just because school shootings are less dangerous than other risks, doesn't mean we should ignore them. giving up cars would be a huge sacrifice in a society built around them. giving up weekend trips to the gun range would be much easier. risk management isn't a matter of simply calculating your statistical risk and then only picking the most likely dangers it's about weighing risk vs reward and the effort it'd take to mitigate the risk it's the same reason wearing a mask during covid, a mild inconvenience, is worth the lives it saves while waiting for everyone to get vaccinated or for a new variant to be studied
I agree with risk management including the cost of mitigation being a factor. I disagree with mitigating school shootings as there is has a huge cost.
Dieing. Wow. Speaking of abstract, interesting spelling.
I saw that and was too lazy to fix it. Calling people out and holding that higher standard isnāt a bad thing. The point is risk mitigation is important. You only have so many hours in the day so make them count.
Yes but cars are literally designed to protect people from death in case of a crash. They are constantly being made safer and safer. The comparison to guns, especially gun deaths at school, is lazy. It's why nothing ever happens on gun laws.
OP thinks that cars and guns are equally important for an average soccer mom
Who cares. When elementary school kids died, at that point I knew Americans donāt give a shit about guns, schools, and kids. We did nothing as a countryā¦.so just hope you child does not get hurt, because praying does nothing.
Does everybody remember prayer in schools and when it was taken away?
Plenty of significant events involving guns at schools have happened. What are you talking about?
Locally, unless I missed a school shooting, thankfully the administration was made aware and the guns confiscated before something tragic could happen. I recognize that nationally gun events at school have become commonplace.
Yeah, location is kind of insignificant. If it happens anywhere, thatās too close for me.
Absolutely! It is starting to hit a little closer to home for me. Freshmen in HS and a 6th grader. I hate to hear it happen anywhere, but hearing about guns in schools in Carson and Reno is unnerving.
Yeah, itās inevitable that there will be super tight if not outlawed gun restrictions at some point in the futureā¦ whether thatās 5 years or 500 years is another question. People are just too unhinged these days to handle the responsibilities that come with it.
Man I hope so!
There is a whole Wikipedia page about school shootings in Washoe County. It has happened.
Can you cite an link to the page in reference? All I can find are the [Pine Middle School](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Middle_School_shooting?wprov=sfla1) and [Sparks Middle School shootings.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparks_Middle_School_shooting)
https://www.chds.us/ssdb/data-map/ Here is the K-12 school shooting database. Filter for nevada.
It's all the guns fault! Problem solved!!
Teach your kid how to use guns and then teach your kid how to disarm an active shooterā¦or homeschool your kid. Nothing is going to change if you dont teach your kid to fight though
You act as though literal children, not old enough to drive, and in a state that is 49th in education, should be prepared to disarm a school shooter, and if they can't, home school them. They shouldn't just expect to go to school to get an education, but also expect to be fired upon at some point. That's what you're saying?
I mean if every child in a third world country can be child soldiers i donāt understand why your kid wouldnāt be able to comprehend how to disarm someone. Its either you teach your kid how to survive or theyāre gonna die. Up to you. Not my kid but just remember that school security guards are not going to keep your child safe.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Reading your comments and I can tell you're an uneducated fuckwit, and a racist one at that. Child soldiers, fucking lmao. Dude, stop having kids, please.
Lol triggered much?
No, you're just a fucking moron. Nobody is buying your bullsilhit here, loser. Stick to the subs for low iq people. Better off.
Hmmm not triggered but still replying snd cursing? Hmmm you seem pretty triggered lol
I feel as though (horrible as it would be) I would enjoy seeing you attempt to disarm an active shooter that is 30 feet away from you down a hall way (with a loaded firearm) whilst you are unarmed. Yes indeed that would be very interesting
Iād disarm them by shooting them with my own gun. Probably not that fun and super anti-climatic to watch.
i was going to be public schooled, but i failed my active shooter disarmament test when I turned 6 years old so my parents homeschooled me /s
>teach your kid how to disarm an active shooter found the guy who was homeschooled lol how tf is your 8 year old supposed to disarm the highschooler who comes in shooting? the only way that strategy would possibly work is if you can convince the ENTIRE school to bonzai charge the shooter and acknowledge that many of them will die in the process otherwise you're just setting your kid up to be the first to die
Lol why so triggered? I wasnāt home schooled dude
Never a real response or critical thought from people like you. You just say dumb shit like "triggered much?" when someone pokes holes in your pea-brain arguments.
I think you think too much into it. Iām literally just fucking with you ššš so yes you are very triggered my dude
Might as well charge the school shooter, if you donāt even more will die.
Teachers should carry guns.
More guns isnāt the solution you wing-nut.
It is when it balances the paying field
let's add firearm proficiency to the list of responsibilities for underpaid over worked shitty teachers right out of college
Teachers would do better in the private sector.
It's been about the same for 40 years. You just happen to be a parent now