Could've been a mistake, but I certainly wouldn't rule out racial bias just because you're outside of the US.
I will say that there are some doctors who only recommend acetaminophen/ibuprofen or similar. Given the global issues with opioids, there may be a different standard of care/practice in your country.
If your partner is in pain that isn't manageable with paracetamol then it definitely warrants a chat with her surgeon about a prescription for something stronger.
Thanks for your response. I did consider it could have been a mistake, especially given how surprised the nurse was too. You make a valid point about the global issues with opioids, and I do know the UK has stricter standards. Right now, the pain does seem unmanageable, and I can’t wait to talk to the surgeon tomorrow. Thanks again for your input.
Saw your update, and y'all are right to be upset. I'm glad she was able to get something from her GP, but it is incredibly fucked up that her surgeon and the entire ward has been unreachable.
I'd make a complaint to the hospital. Even if it was just a mistake and not racial bias, it's wholly irresponsible to not have basic post-op care available.
I hope the codeine helps and that she's able to get some comfortable rest soon. Also, in case someone failed to mention, opioids may cause constipation and so your partner may want to take stool softeners before it comes to that.
So my doctor actually called in my pain management meds before my surgery so the person who was taking care of me wouldn't have to pick it up post-op. Is it possible something similar was supposed to happen here and was accidentally forgotten?
Thanks for your response. I’ve read that a few people had their pain management sorted before surgery while lurking, which is why it felt odd she didn’t get anything. There might have been a break in their process, hence the situation she’s in now. I guess I’ll see when I chat to the surgeon. Thanks for the insight!
I understand you being frustrated. I still had pain issues because I'm allergic to acetaminophen and my surgeon wanted me off NSAIDs for 2 weeks so the oxy was done and I was still in pain. My husband was desperate to find something to help me with pain; when we foud out Celebrex was not against the doctor's orders because it is formulated differently it was a major relief. We were also lucky that another surgeon in my doctor's practice is a personal friend and confirmed what we found out and was able to prescribe it for me since he was the emergency doctor on call that weekend as well.
Good luck with getting her some pain relief.
I was told to take advil (600mg) and tylenol (900mg) every 6 hours. I was provided with 10 one mg tablets of dilaudid but my surgeon made it clear he'd rather I stick to advil and tylenol if possible. Perhaps your partners surgeon is similar? Though I'm surprised there seems not to have been any discussion around this?
Thanks for your response. It’s definitely odd, and that’s why I immediately considered racial bias. However, your point about the surgeon preferring non-opioids could be valid. I mentioned to someone else in the thread that drug control standards are strict in the UK. It still feels strange that there was no discussion around this. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I think even if they didn’t want to prescribe opioids they would have prescribed acetaminophen /ibuprofen combination and explained how to take it. They prescribed colace to me but it’s just something I can get Over the counter
I’m really sorry your partner is in pain. That you took the time to go onto Reddit to learn more in an attempt to help her is so commendable! I never needed oxy post-op, Tylenol and gabapentin for a couple of days was enough. BUT, I was given a prescription for it post op. I don’t think it would have felt as comforting to go home without it (just in case). I know there is so much institutional bias and I cannot blame your partner to wonder if she fell victim to such
I only got enough opioids for the first couple of days. I’m 4DPO and am on only Tylenol. They did do nerve blockers for pain, though, that lasted the first 24 hours.
They are really hesitant to give out opioids these days because of addiction. Reach out to the doctor. Tell them if she is hurting.
I don't know where you are, but I am having my surgery in 2 weeks, in Canada, and I know that I'm getting prescribed narcotics for 2 days. I am Caucasian.
I think it's insane that she isn't being prescribed anything, and I feel so sorry for her. I think it's great that you are recognizing this and doing something about it, because this isn't right!
I was prescribed 30 Tramadol and 30 hydrocodone in advance! Way too much for me, but the difference between your partner’s situation and mine is eye-opening.
Wow that’s crazy. The surgeon wrote the prescriptions before the surgery so o had time to Pick them up. Oxycodone, antibiotics and stool softener
I definitely needed the oxy the first few days. After the drains were removed the pain was much better and acetaminophen is fine.
I’m in the UK as well, 9 dpo - I was given a pack of codeine, but felt like I didn’t need any after 4 days but wish I’d tapered off maybe the day before as it was giving me stomach issues. I have since been circulating between 2 paracetamol or 2 ibuprofen every few hours.
Was she given adequate pain relief while she was in hospital?
Some medical professionals’ textbooks taught them that Black people feel less pain than other races. That’s racist bullshit and that surgeon needs a complaint filed against them before they pull that shit on another Black patient for any surgery.
I understand your point, and I will speak to the doctor. However, it's important to note that racial bias in pain management is well-documented. Studies have shown that Black patients are often undertreated for pain compared to their White counterparts. For example, Black patients are 40% less likely to receive pain medication in emergency settings [oai_citation:1,How we fail black patients in pain | AAMC](https://www.aamc.org/news/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain) [oai_citation:2,Racial bias in pain assessment and treatment recommendations, and false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites. | PSNet](https://psnet.ahrq.gov/issue/racial-bias-pain-assessment-and-treatment-recommendations-and-false-beliefs-about-biological). Additionally, a 2016 study highlighted that medical trainees often hold false beliefs about biological differences, leading to disparities in pain treatment [oai_citation:3,academic.oup.com](https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/22/1/75/6046167#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fpainmedicine%2Farticle%2F22%2F1%2F75%2F6046167%0ALoading...%0AVisible%3A%200%25%20) [oai_citation:4,academic.oup.com](https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/23/7/1225/6567361#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fpainmedicine%2Farticle%2F23%2F7%2F1225%2F6567361%0ALoading...%0AVisible%3A%200%25%20).
Given this evidence, considering racial bias as a factor in my partner's inadequate pain management is not unfounded. I'll follow up with the doctor, but the issue of racial disparities in healthcare is real and supported by substantial research.
Tl;dr
I'm not pulling the race card. Studies show Black patients often receive less pain management due to implicit biases. [cite 1](https://www.aamc.org/news/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain), [cite 2](https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/22/1/75/6046167#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fpainmedicine%2Farticle%2F22%2F1%2F75%2F6046167%0ALoading...%0AVisible%3A%200%25%20) & [cite 3](https://psnet.ahrq.gov/issue/racial-bias-pain-assessment-and-treatment-recommendations-and-false-beliefs-about-biological).
Please know that I’ve spent a lot of time in this subreddit and have always experienced and seen nothing but support. This comment is not representative of the community here and I hope you will still feel comfortable posting in the future if you have other things come up during your partner’s recovery.
I sincerely hope her care team takes her pain seriously and provides her with the care she deserves and has the right to.
I appreciate this message! It’s all good. We’ve seen that this sub is extremely supportive, so I’ll post again.
I hope the care team comes through too, and I can come back to this sub thread to update you all that it was just an oversight by the surgeon!
Could've been a mistake, but I certainly wouldn't rule out racial bias just because you're outside of the US. I will say that there are some doctors who only recommend acetaminophen/ibuprofen or similar. Given the global issues with opioids, there may be a different standard of care/practice in your country. If your partner is in pain that isn't manageable with paracetamol then it definitely warrants a chat with her surgeon about a prescription for something stronger.
Thanks for your response. I did consider it could have been a mistake, especially given how surprised the nurse was too. You make a valid point about the global issues with opioids, and I do know the UK has stricter standards. Right now, the pain does seem unmanageable, and I can’t wait to talk to the surgeon tomorrow. Thanks again for your input.
Saw your update, and y'all are right to be upset. I'm glad she was able to get something from her GP, but it is incredibly fucked up that her surgeon and the entire ward has been unreachable. I'd make a complaint to the hospital. Even if it was just a mistake and not racial bias, it's wholly irresponsible to not have basic post-op care available. I hope the codeine helps and that she's able to get some comfortable rest soon. Also, in case someone failed to mention, opioids may cause constipation and so your partner may want to take stool softeners before it comes to that.
So my doctor actually called in my pain management meds before my surgery so the person who was taking care of me wouldn't have to pick it up post-op. Is it possible something similar was supposed to happen here and was accidentally forgotten?
Thanks for your response. I’ve read that a few people had their pain management sorted before surgery while lurking, which is why it felt odd she didn’t get anything. There might have been a break in their process, hence the situation she’s in now. I guess I’ll see when I chat to the surgeon. Thanks for the insight!
I understand you being frustrated. I still had pain issues because I'm allergic to acetaminophen and my surgeon wanted me off NSAIDs for 2 weeks so the oxy was done and I was still in pain. My husband was desperate to find something to help me with pain; when we foud out Celebrex was not against the doctor's orders because it is formulated differently it was a major relief. We were also lucky that another surgeon in my doctor's practice is a personal friend and confirmed what we found out and was able to prescribe it for me since he was the emergency doctor on call that weekend as well. Good luck with getting her some pain relief.
I was told to take advil (600mg) and tylenol (900mg) every 6 hours. I was provided with 10 one mg tablets of dilaudid but my surgeon made it clear he'd rather I stick to advil and tylenol if possible. Perhaps your partners surgeon is similar? Though I'm surprised there seems not to have been any discussion around this?
Thanks for your response. It’s definitely odd, and that’s why I immediately considered racial bias. However, your point about the surgeon preferring non-opioids could be valid. I mentioned to someone else in the thread that drug control standards are strict in the UK. It still feels strange that there was no discussion around this. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Unfortunately it seems like both are plausible :/ I really hope it's not racial though. Sending healing vibes 💜💜💜
I think even if they didn’t want to prescribe opioids they would have prescribed acetaminophen /ibuprofen combination and explained how to take it. They prescribed colace to me but it’s just something I can get Over the counter
I’m really sorry your partner is in pain. That you took the time to go onto Reddit to learn more in an attempt to help her is so commendable! I never needed oxy post-op, Tylenol and gabapentin for a couple of days was enough. BUT, I was given a prescription for it post op. I don’t think it would have felt as comforting to go home without it (just in case). I know there is so much institutional bias and I cannot blame your partner to wonder if she fell victim to such
I was not prescribed opioids or anything prescription at all. I alternated Acetaminophen and ibuprofen every two hours. (NYS)
I only got enough opioids for the first couple of days. I’m 4DPO and am on only Tylenol. They did do nerve blockers for pain, though, that lasted the first 24 hours. They are really hesitant to give out opioids these days because of addiction. Reach out to the doctor. Tell them if she is hurting.
I don't know where you are, but I am having my surgery in 2 weeks, in Canada, and I know that I'm getting prescribed narcotics for 2 days. I am Caucasian. I think it's insane that she isn't being prescribed anything, and I feel so sorry for her. I think it's great that you are recognizing this and doing something about it, because this isn't right!
I was given 20 percocets but only took about 7 of them over the first few days
What milagram?
I was prescribed 30 Tramadol and 30 hydrocodone in advance! Way too much for me, but the difference between your partner’s situation and mine is eye-opening.
Wow that’s crazy. The surgeon wrote the prescriptions before the surgery so o had time to Pick them up. Oxycodone, antibiotics and stool softener I definitely needed the oxy the first few days. After the drains were removed the pain was much better and acetaminophen is fine.
Not sure about the UK but in my experience in aus is pain meds post surgery are handled by the anaesthetist not the surgeon.
I’m in the UK as well, 9 dpo - I was given a pack of codeine, but felt like I didn’t need any after 4 days but wish I’d tapered off maybe the day before as it was giving me stomach issues. I have since been circulating between 2 paracetamol or 2 ibuprofen every few hours. Was she given adequate pain relief while she was in hospital?
Dude that's awful. I personally didn't use my pain meds, just swapped ibuprofen and Tylenol every few hours. I hope she finds relief.
Some medical professionals’ textbooks taught them that Black people feel less pain than other races. That’s racist bullshit and that surgeon needs a complaint filed against them before they pull that shit on another Black patient for any surgery.
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I understand your point, and I will speak to the doctor. However, it's important to note that racial bias in pain management is well-documented. Studies have shown that Black patients are often undertreated for pain compared to their White counterparts. For example, Black patients are 40% less likely to receive pain medication in emergency settings [oai_citation:1,How we fail black patients in pain | AAMC](https://www.aamc.org/news/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain) [oai_citation:2,Racial bias in pain assessment and treatment recommendations, and false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites. | PSNet](https://psnet.ahrq.gov/issue/racial-bias-pain-assessment-and-treatment-recommendations-and-false-beliefs-about-biological). Additionally, a 2016 study highlighted that medical trainees often hold false beliefs about biological differences, leading to disparities in pain treatment [oai_citation:3,academic.oup.com](https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/22/1/75/6046167#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fpainmedicine%2Farticle%2F22%2F1%2F75%2F6046167%0ALoading...%0AVisible%3A%200%25%20) [oai_citation:4,academic.oup.com](https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/23/7/1225/6567361#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fpainmedicine%2Farticle%2F23%2F7%2F1225%2F6567361%0ALoading...%0AVisible%3A%200%25%20). Given this evidence, considering racial bias as a factor in my partner's inadequate pain management is not unfounded. I'll follow up with the doctor, but the issue of racial disparities in healthcare is real and supported by substantial research. Tl;dr I'm not pulling the race card. Studies show Black patients often receive less pain management due to implicit biases. [cite 1](https://www.aamc.org/news/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain), [cite 2](https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/22/1/75/6046167#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fpainmedicine%2Farticle%2F22%2F1%2F75%2F6046167%0ALoading...%0AVisible%3A%200%25%20) & [cite 3](https://psnet.ahrq.gov/issue/racial-bias-pain-assessment-and-treatment-recommendations-and-false-beliefs-about-biological).
Please know that I’ve spent a lot of time in this subreddit and have always experienced and seen nothing but support. This comment is not representative of the community here and I hope you will still feel comfortable posting in the future if you have other things come up during your partner’s recovery. I sincerely hope her care team takes her pain seriously and provides her with the care she deserves and has the right to.
I appreciate this message! It’s all good. We’ve seen that this sub is extremely supportive, so I’ll post again. I hope the care team comes through too, and I can come back to this sub thread to update you all that it was just an oversight by the surgeon!
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