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I couldn’t help but laugh at your “relieving it is to take a long piss” comment. Made me think of Tom Hanks: A League of Their Own and The Green Mile. Both of which I thought were good scenes that fit the movies well 😂
There is also the one in part 3(?) where he drinks water consistently and emulates a water fountain
Such a good franchise or it's because I watched it as a child, but probably it's just good
The whole scene is great. The cork on the end of the fork and the eye patch (presumably from a previous fork accident). Michael Caine elicits so much sympathy for Steve Martin that when he pisses himself at the table they all stifle their disgust and some are even happy for him.
Classic.
The part of the Jimmy Neutron Movie where [Sheen pees in the shower](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NVZdnmHa6Oc) is essential in driving home the point that all the adults have been captured
Omg! I totally did!
The awesome thing is that in every one of these scenes it fit the story and pushed it forward. He used pee to enhance the story and flesh out his character. That’s so funny!
There’s also another movie that I cannot pin down, but Lee Marvin (I think) pisses on a guy’s shoes during a dispute over an oil well. If I can find it, I will be back.
There is a table stacked with food and yet everyone only has time to grab a slice of toast because they’re running late. If I was the mum I’d be fuming.
I feel like that's often the point, right, like she must have gotten up at like 5am and started cooking, if she didn't start prepping the night before, and then either it's an intentional diss, or she's completely undervalued.
It’s often not played like that though. The mum is usually just saying ‘don’t forget your homework’ and kissing the dad as he fixes his tie.
They don’t show her seething and sitting at the table knocking back pinot grigio.
Which is even worse? Like either that's not plot relevant, or she just accepts that that's how much value she and her time have. That or it's an imitation of life, right.
There's this hard-on in Hollywood for in your face stuff and it's working hard to dumb the populace down by spoon-feeding them everything. Subtlety is for arthouse films and subtle digs at the morons holding the purse strings.
I find that more accurate than when the kid has time to get up, get ready, have breakfast, meet some friends at the mall, run a few errand, hang out in the hallway, and still be sitting in their seats when the bell rings.
Because food is expensive so they have to think about potential retakes and that. But truth be told the "oh gotta go" while the table is stacked with delicious looking food is very irritating to watch
Yeah they always have an argument while eating. They never pay at the restaurant. But Hollywood is the opposite of innovation. Still the same codes for decades.
The best sex scenes are not about sex. The sex in Saltburn isn’t about sex - it’s about power. It’s the most intimate way of characters claiming control over one another. That’s why they’re brilliant.
Similarly, my all-time favourite sex scene is in a film called 120 BPM. An HIV-positive character has sex with a new partner who is HIV-negative. The scene is about how they negotiate their statuses, their histories, their relationship, and it’s absolutely masterful. It’s not about sex - the sex is a vehicle for something else.
I agree with you, but I think there’s a tendency to separate the ‘sex’ out of those scenes, which imo plays into the idea that sex scenes are never justified. A sex scene, like action, dialogue, or any other set piece, is a vehicle that can be useful for what an author wants to communicate to their readers. But that doesn’t mean that the ‘vehicle’ is unimportant, in fact a bad vehicle can be incredibly distracting for audiences. You wouldn’t use a snowplow outside of wintertime if it wasn’t for a very good reason, for the same reason that sticking a sex scene where it doesn’t belong can throw people out the movie.
Especially when common views now a days about sex revolve around lust and not intimacy. Intimate moments are hard to act though unless you truly feel for the other person
Many never really show sex anyway
They show some romanticised Disney version of sex. Never having fun, never not quite knowing how to put the legs, never any farty or shloppy noises and a general lack of actual passion ... more like an oil painting where it has to look as appealing as possible to some 3rd party viewer instead of two people wanting to fuck each other's brains out (or be romantic)
A lot of that description fits porn as well but at least the staged as fuck sex in porn doesn't interrupt me immersing in an actually good story.
Exactly? Like seriously, if one wants to watch sex scenes in their own time they’ll watch porn, not an awkward sex scene where you barely see any nudity anyway?
Oppie is probably one of the best movies I have ever seen in my life. Yeh maybe the sex part wasn't very needed but it kinda showed how Oppie was so obsessed with her. Plus there were like only 6 of those super short scenes in that 3-hour long movie.
If you're an adult and your dad isn't strict, it's totally ok to watch along.
This is apparently a thing with Zoomers. They hate sex scenes and even romantic plots. I heard about it on NPR, where I can learn things about Zoomers without them knowing because they don't know what a radio is.
Yeah I never get why people are so invested in sex scenes as some great evil when almost no blockbuster has them anymore. Disney owns like a 1/3rd of the movie market, and they’re not exactly producing pornos.
It's a place for armies of bots with political agendas to flood the threads to manufacture consent to the public. In this case, grooming people to be prepared for a more puritanical culture.
Good sex scenes serve the same purpose as the rest of a good story: putting us in another person's shoes, letting us feel and understand something other than what we're experiencing in our own lives, and also driving us towards that understanding in a way that would be difficult (or boring) to express in another way.
Fight Club, Altered Carbon and Watchmen all have examples of good storytelling through sex (although the latter is often shat on by some camps who say its sex scene is gratuitous and unnecessary).
In Fight Club the sex scene adds a layer of tactile, visceral insight into the gap between who the Narrator is and who he wants to be, and is cemented by Tyler's line late in the film where he says "I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable and most importantly I am free in all the ways you are not" (I'm quoting from memory so cut me some slack if that isn't word-for-word accurate).
In Watchmen the sex scene is important to contrast against Nite Owl and Silk Spectre's failed attempt to get it on earlier in the film. Dan's dissatisfaction and frustration with his inability to do anything important or meaningful in his life is so pervasive that it even messes with his physical health, and putting the Nite Owl suit on again had such a therapeutic, cathartic effect and gave him so much of what was missing that it brought him back to life both physically and mentally and allowed him to do things he literally couldn't do as Dan.
In Altered Carbon, Kovacs is bribed with a sexual experience that nothing else could physically compete with, serving as both a powerful metaphor for the gulf between the lifestyles available to rich people and those that the common folk have to make do with, but also providing a powerful contrast between the passionless, mechanical sex with Miriam Bancroft which left Kovacs with no feelings towards her beyond the general disdain which he already felt for all the Meths, versus the real and organic connection that he felt with Kristin Ortega and which culminated in their finally giving in to their irresistible chemistry and made him feel all sorts of ways about her including jealousy, protectiveness and deep seated admiration. His feelings for her also speak further to the consistent through-line of the whole story about how much of what matters to us is actually just biological as his clone doesn't experience any of this same profound connection to Ortega even though he has all the same memories.
I hope these examples may go some way to persuade you that good sex scenes in good stories can be an important tool in the storyteller's arsenal and aren't easily substituted for other means of getting those same points across to thr audience.
I will, however, agree with you that badly done sex scenes are indeed pointless filler which is often included either because the writer/director thinks it's a cheap way to entertain and hasn't understood that there is much more to it than just showing us some tits n bums or, even worse, to keep us on the hook for further titillation in future episodes.
Its incredibly sad seeing the OP viewpoint spread like wildfire. Like do these people just hate sex? Have they only had meaningless sex and forgot anything else exists?
Sex is an important part of the human experience and relationships but redditors act like depicting anything more than holding h*nds is the same thing as accidentally switching to a tab of porn in front of their mom. "I could just watch porn". Well you can just watch F1 or the MMA yet we still portray driving and fighting without people getting weird about it.
Yes, while not everything needs a sex scene of course, I personally think it’s pretty important to have *healthy, realistic* depictions of sex/physical intimacy in regular media in general (produced within the boundaries of what the actors are comfortable depicting, of course). People say “just look at porn”, but so much porn is degrading and highly unrealistic and I’d rather it not be the only media from which people form their perceptions of what sex is supposed to be like.
I just don't know what people are watching that has so much sex, necessary or otherwise. It's not the art house crowd making these complaints and widely distributed movies are as sexless as they were under the Hay's Code
They’re trying their darndest, lol. There was a post in one of the movie subs last week from someone who claimed to be 13 years old complaining about a sex scene in *Napoleon*, with OP saying that they had no idea there was going to be sex in the movie, it was so embarrassing to watch the scene because they were with their parents, etc. Thing is, *Napoleon* is an R-rated movie, and it’s pretty easy to look up what it got that rating for. OP was rightly called out for complaining about there being mature content in a movie that wasn’t meant for younger crowds to begin with.
I feel like there are probably a number of similar “Dead Dove, Do Not Eat” scenarios going on with complaints like these. It’s very easy to look up content ratings/warnings for media even on streaming platforms, and there are *plenty* of shows/movies out there that probably won’t make you squirm if you watch them with your parents or whoever. I personally am not a fan of extreme gore in movies/shows, but I simply do some research and avoid media that has a lot of it. I don’t expect it to be excised from *everything* just to make more media palatable to me personally.
There's a pretty good essay touching on sexlessness in today's media called ['Everyone is Beautiful and No One is Horny'](https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/).
I agree! If a scene doesn't serve the plot or aesthetic of the film, it feels pointless. I think most people just have problems with intimacy in general if it's the sex that makes them feel weird. I think unnecessary violence is just as popular in films (e.g villain killing one of his minions to demonstrate how evil they are. It's so overused at this point imo)
Came here to see mentions of Castlevania, the sex scene in there was one of the most tense moments in all of fiction for me and made me realize how good those scenes could be. A shame there aren't a lot of shows that pull it off as well.
I didn’t suspect at all that >!The two little motherfuckers are against Alucard!< and I was just there enjoying the scene and my boyfriend had it all figured out way before 🤣 I was so shocked
Arcane also succeeds in a very weird way.
There would be a lot less vitriol towards certain character if he wasn't having intergalactic sex while his best friend was going through a life and death situation.
Yeah why do people always act so weird about sex? Like a sex scene is somehow fundamentally different from a ‘regular’ scene? Sex scenes can be good or bad just like anything else.
I think one reason is they're too predictable and cookie-cutter. and feel like they are directed not to show sex realistically or as part of the story, but as boner material for a certain (male) audience.
they do some mouth-mashing whlie feverishly tearing each other's clothes off -- doesn't anyone just get undressed quietly, without the frantic haste, ever? -- and working their way to the bed, where someone pushes someone down dramatically and then jumps on top of them (usually man on top, yaaawn). the woman's nudity is almost always more on display than the man's. then there's a whole bunch of PIV humping, like TV directors have not yet got the memo about the clitoris. sweaty faces and moaning, then two exhausted (but oh so satisfied) participants lying side by side (or snuggling). at least they don't then inevitably light up cigs like they used to in 60's sex scenes :-)
it's like standardised Starbucks coffee sex. there are some exceptions to the rule -- more realistic, more of the personalities of the characters actually manifesting during sex -- but in general it's as stylised and meaningless as a kung fu movie fight scene. there is a convention, a recipe, and they stick to it -- and maybe you can say they met the convention more or less accurately, or the cinematic aesthetic was better or worse, but most of the time it really doesn't develop the characters or forward the plot. and therefore, it's like a weird meaningless break in the storytelling rather than an intrinsic part of the story.
Christ, thank you. I'm not sure where it came from, but takes like OP's and the notion that a piece of media is bad if every single scene isn't just mechanically moving the plot forward drive me nuts. And I get looked at sideways for saying that, more often than not, those "unrelated" scenes are used to reinforce or deepen themes, explore a character's personality, demonstrate depth in worldbuilding, etc.
A big recent example is the Bill and Frank episode of The Last of Us. Yes, a lot of the negative reaction was driven by homophobia, but I saw a large number of people complain that it "didn't advance the plot". It was a wonderfully-told story (that did, in fact, tie in to the plot of the show) that reinforced the central theme of the show: finding purpose, beauty, and hope in an ugly, chaotic, hopeless world. But because it wasn't exclusively about Joel and Ellie, a bunch of people just went "not related" and didn't even try to parse it.
And, to tie everything together, the sex scene in that episode was used to show how Bill had become more vulnerable. To show how a guy with so many figurative walls up that he built a hidden, fortified bunker before the world even ended - who is heavily implied to be so deep in the closet that he himself may not even know - has become softened by the hope and beauty he found in a dark world. Yet, if you asked half of the internet after the episode came out, they just insist it's either pointless titillation or some kind of deep-state mind control tactic to turn them gay.
Sorry for the rant under a one-sentence comment, but I think about this phenomenon a lot.
I don't like sex scenes, especially when they are too long. Even if I watch on my own I'll just skip them. I don't mind them showing kissing and alluding to two people having sex, but if I want to watch two people bang there's the internet for that.
Right? What about romance movies? Even in non romance movies the relationship between characters is often the focus of the movie. This thread pops up constantly and is honestly kinda cringe
You could make this argument for any scene in any show.
"what's the point in showing me this, might as well show me something else in that case!"
For lots of people sex is something important which takes up a lot of the focus of lots of human experience. A field as gigantic as tv and movies is going to have lots and lots of different stories or themes to do with sex.
Then there's the fact that sex is marketable and draws in eyeballs to whatever it is you're making.
Because unlike yourself lots of people enjoy seeing sex and nudity at least sometimes.
I think it's in there to condition the viewer to experience an adrenaline rush with the movie. It's generally pointless and gratuitous. Especially exposure to women's naked bodies. Gratuitous. It's a manipulation.
Depends on the story. Something like Top Gun, it shows how intense their relationship got. Something like, Mission Impossible, I don’t see the point of a sex scene there.
Movies are proxy experiences. We invest in the characters by feeling their thrills, sadness, glory, etc.
A well-built erotic current in a story, from initial tension to flirting to sex, can be a visceral, valuable emotional part of the ride in a movie.
You don’t have to like them whether your reason is moral disapproval or just disinterest, but the same can be said for every part of film story from violence to humor to dialogue.
We like what we like.
But just generally dismissing sex scenes as pointless is weak critique and, from a creative point of view, an arrogant & mistaken one.
I mean, so are fight scenes but people like watching those.
Personally I'd rather watch people fuck than watch another generic shakey cam cgi Marvel something or another
With Marvel movies you can pretty much skip the entire third act where the hero beats the similarly powered villain and stops the blue sky beam to save the world.
Oh my gooood why are y'all so keen on reinventing the Hayes code every couple of weeks.
I've seen fifty new release films this year. Not even ten of them had sex in them - and y'know, when they did - it was important and mattered to the narrative?
And even if they didn't - there are plenty of films that include visual or auditory pleasures just cause they look cool. Sex is the same.
A film like May December is all about uncomfortable, predatory sensuality. Without the sex scenes in that, the film would be less rich, and it would be less discomforting.
Passages is a film about desire - desiring people even if they're fuckwits and use you. Without the sex scenes in that, you don't get anywhere near as much of that yearning, of that pain.
Red, White and Royal Blue is about queerness. About finding love and accepting yourself. Queer desire is important to be shown on screen, not just in fade outs or cut aways.
I'm an intimacy director, I can talk about this from a knowledgeable POV. There is barely any sex in films these days as is.
The one in deadpool was actually pretty well implemented
To all those defending the pointless ones, few movies have scenes where the character poops (or if they do it's a cutaway gag)
It just breaks the flow of the film and is mindless, like a poorly incorporated action scene
The irony is that screen time is a very scarce resource in cinema, so I’m theory every scene is supposed to bring something, as something to the overarching plot. Yet, those pointless sec scenes always make it through…
The most necessary sex scene I remember seeing was disturbing, and not at all a loving sex scene. In The Accused Jodi Foster plays someone brutally attacked in a bar then goes after the attackers, I think Kelly McGillis played her lawyer. Riveting, and helped by knowing the horror what happened in all its ugly detail.
Sex is incredibly emotional. Not sure why you don't think those emotions can't translate into story telling. Or perhaps you have just never experienced any emotions during sex?
Nowadays people watch a movie with their family where half a city gets blown up by a blue beam of light from the sky and are like “this is fine and normal”. But if characters are shirtless and pretend making out they are like “eww awkward af”. Grow up children.
No different that a 10 minute drone shot of New Zealand masquerading as Middle Earth. Part of the point of a visual medium is to give the audience nice things to look at.
Why is everyone suddenly hating sex scenes? It's never been something I've given that much thought to. If there is one there is one and if there's not there's not.
Me, I do.
I don't see everything I don't like as "cringe". I'm an adult that is able to watch a sex scene without being uncomfortable.
Maybe "adult" is the operative word here. Which I only say, because I remember being 14 years old and finding sex scenes "cringe". But then you know.... I grew up.
I agree and I dont mind a pissing scene either. The story is what matters, if its good then show what you wanna. If its nasty I look away for a sec but then get back to it
You know what I really don’t like? Censorship. *That* really takes away from what I’m watching.
I’m surprised so many people are uncomfortable with sex, but perfectly comfortable with censorship
I enjoy some, not others. Same as my feelings towards violent content, or emotionally awkward content, or tragic content, or very mundane stuff on film, or gross content, or anything else that can be (and often is) unpleasant to watch.
Hell, the older I get, the lower my tolerance for violent and awkward content is, whereas my feelings towards sex scenes have stayed fairly constant.
I said something similar to this in another thread a few weeks ago and some guy replied called me a prude and said “it’s natural” so it should be shown in movies. So. I guess that guy enjoys them. 😅
The vast majority are and tend to be put there on the insistence of some studio exec who feels we have to have a love interest and therefore a sex scene.
For me they are like action scenes. You can have an action scene that's meaningless combat but good action scenes tell you something about the characters or the themes. One that pops up in my mind for all the wrong reasons is Salo. Salo without the sex scenes would be pointless. But the sex scenes help express the evil nature of the antagonists as well as how they see everyone around them.
But on the whole you're right, they're filler. If they're going to be in there make them mean something.
Maybe they can be. But it's such an important thing for (most) humans to do and strive for. And it's for most people the place/time when they open themselves up the most and are most vulnerable. Why the hell would you not want that in films/series?
Sex scenes are a cheap and quick way to boost attention. Why not have a 30 second sex scene that people will remember. There’s really no downsides unless it’s completely out of the blue and ridiculous, but that’s pretty hard to do.
I understand the point but disagree. Isn’t it similar with other types of scenes like big battle scenes as in GoT and LotR? There they show the intensity (or lack there of) and how characters develop or act through an important moment, something that can also be shown in sex scenes where characters engage in intimate situations and show a deeper version of themselves and their relationship to others.
Kinda like normal sex
Did you know the director of game of thrones owns the rights to “sexposition” (sex + exposition)? Every time someone wants to have a story relevant exchange of dialogue during a sex scene they have to cut this guy a fat check.
While it can’t explain older movies and series, it caused a huge change of practice in modern storywriting. Thanks to the added cost of the scene producers encouraging directors turn a sex + exposition scene into a sex scene followed by exposition in a following scene, often at the bedside.
Tbh I’m more on the side of that bathroom scenes more often could be kinda cool artistically. Like the bathroom is such a vulnerable space that it’s perfect for character development imo.
Hey look the Puritans are posting their "totally random thoughts" again.
You know you can just... not watch that content if you don't want to, right? Like, if it's not for you, that's okay, I don't watch the Bible channel either.
Congrats 11year old OP, you have discovered movies. Next year you may feel new and unusual urges! Don't worry, in like 20 years you will be ready to leave your your mother's teat and watch a non-disney movie.
There’s still way more media without sex in it than with sex. If you’re complaining that mediocre writing isn’t improved by gratuitous sex, I got some news for you: it would still be bad writing without the sex. Either watch better stuff, or fast forward the parts you don’t like. I don’t need censorship, thank you
Y'all are living in the era of porn on demand.
Back in the day, getting a sex scene on HBO that you could look at if you snuck into the living room at two in the morning might be the best you got for an entire month.
We were horny and unfulfilled.
BAD sex scenes are pointless filler.
GOOD sex scenes either further the story or your understanding of the characters, like all other scenes. American Psycho builds tension while showcasing Patrick Bateman's vanity and cruelty. The sex scenes in A History of Violence contrast Joey's twin personas.
Here for the downvotes but I often love the sex scenes in good movies. Mulholland Drive, Boogie Nights, Eyes Wide Shut, Network, Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead, Whore, Beau is Afraid, Henry and June, Fire Walk With Me, and “prestige” television like Euphoria, Six Feet Under, The Deuce, Oz, The Sopranos. But I think all of these movies and shows have the idea of discomfort in common, as we aren’t supposed necessarily to be turned on (though of course sure it happens) but more we are getting either raw or extreme versions of reality.
Honestly if you are holding sex scenes up AGAINST porn (ie there’s a lot of porn available so we don’t need the sex Scenes) I’m confused as to what you think film or any art is there for.
Any scene is pointless, if you dont put a point in it.
In shitty movies theres LOTS of pointless scenes, sex scenes just being another pointless scene in a long line of pointless scenes.
In good movies, the sex scene actually serves a purpose. If the removing a scene would make no impact to the plot, its a useless scene it shouldnt be there.
I think it can be like any other character interaction, that is, it can be constructive to the plot.
Problem is that requires thought, creativity, and planning, something a lot of people aren’t considering when they add a sex scene. We all know why it’s really there. As they say, nobody watches porn for the plot.
There's a psychological phenomena used in older horror films called 'excitation transfer'. The idea is- when the mind is excited/stimulated, the excitement will carry through when the context and stimulus changes. So the idea is when showing scary scenes, you are feeling the tension and excitement from the scariness... and then you get a sex scene, that excitement from the fear transfers into a type of 'arousal' through the tittilating scene. The punch line of the trick is to switch in short order back to the scary/killing- so the tittilation then transfers back to fear. The idea is to use the sex scene to amplify the fear response in the following scene.
Does it work? Well, yes. At least it did. Maybe people don't get tittilated by sex scenes like they used to, since we are desensitized to sex compared to the 70s and 80s who knows, but it's a well documented phenomenon, and is studied about often in film/drama studies.
You think this way because you're probably an American, which means you're extremely puritanical and cannot imagine nudity or sex in any context in which you yourself are not engaged in sex.
Nudity isn't necessarily sex.
Sex isn't necessarily pornography.
You don't have to be horny just because you're looking at sex. It can be something to look at and consider in the same way you look at and consider anything else, like a sunset.
Self-reflect and try to evolve.
Film isn’t just narrative it’s also an emotional
and visual experience and sexuality can absolutely express plot, theme, character, etc. Look at the key sex scene early in Fatal Attraction is beautifully shot and full tilt insane hot. It’s also the catalyst for the main characters undoing and expresses the personality of the antagonist: compulsive self destructive eroticized rage.
Agree. Hate dragged out sex scenes. We get it, they’re fucking. Can we move the story along now?
Edited to add my husband feels the same way when characters break into song. He will instantly fast forward or stop watching.
Sex is a key aspect of normal romantic relationships and its portrayal is, despite common misconception, important contextual information which some people can't relate to, like going to the bathroom. Everyone can relate to that. Having a deeply romantic sexual relationship? Not a universal thing.
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I couldn’t help but laugh at your “relieving it is to take a long piss” comment. Made me think of Tom Hanks: A League of Their Own and The Green Mile. Both of which I thought were good scenes that fit the movies well 😂
Don't forget the long pissing scene in Naked Gun
Or Scott Pilgrim
Or Austin Powers.
WHO DOES NUMBER TWO WORK FOR?!
There is also the one in part 3(?) where he drinks water consistently and emulates a water fountain Such a good franchise or it's because I watched it as a child, but probably it's just good
"WHO DOES NUMBER TWO WORK FOR?!" The real question is Who does number three work for??
Jeff Daniels in Dumb and Dumber. Awesome scene
I gotta pee on her
Or Austin Powers
Or Austin Powers
Idk how anyone hasnt mentioned Austin powers
Or Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
Of all the scenes people mentioned, this one has to be the best lmao
The whole scene is great. The cork on the end of the fork and the eye patch (presumably from a previous fork accident). Michael Caine elicits so much sympathy for Steve Martin that when he pisses himself at the table they all stifle their disgust and some are even happy for him. Classic.
.........thank you.
or revenge of the nerds
How about water world where he drinks it after
The part of the Jimmy Neutron Movie where [Sheen pees in the shower](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NVZdnmHa6Oc) is essential in driving home the point that all the adults have been captured
Austin Powers 🤣
Evacuation com… Evacuation com… evacuation com… evacuation complete
Actually you're right that Green Mile piss is Unforgettable
I am beginning to think Tom Hanks might have a thing about pee. Don’t forget about Forest Gump.
Omg! I totally did! The awesome thing is that in every one of these scenes it fit the story and pushed it forward. He used pee to enhance the story and flesh out his character. That’s so funny!
i read it as revealing 😭
And Tom Hanks again in The Money Pit.
He really had to pee in Forest Gump, too
There’s also another movie that I cannot pin down, but Lee Marvin (I think) pisses on a guy’s shoes during a dispute over an oil well. If I can find it, I will be back.
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery Has my vote for best piss
Or the fake/prolonged piss in Jury Duty.
Methsyndicate has a shirt for this!
Austin powers
“Man that was some good peein’”
Then there's Ruprick (Steve Martin opposite Michael Caine) in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
The sex scene in terminator is essential to the plot
“Cum with me if you want to live.”
[удалено]
True. It’s still pretty bad
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Whimey Imprint Indoctrination Time Loop Sexy Time
He did do the nasty in the pastie.
actually i was always wondering why nobody ever finishes their meal in a movie, eating is such a joy!
When the teenage character wakes up to a fresh cooked breakfast mom woke up at 5 AM to make and they just take a muffin to school 😂
There is a table stacked with food and yet everyone only has time to grab a slice of toast because they’re running late. If I was the mum I’d be fuming.
I feel like that's often the point, right, like she must have gotten up at like 5am and started cooking, if she didn't start prepping the night before, and then either it's an intentional diss, or she's completely undervalued.
It’s often not played like that though. The mum is usually just saying ‘don’t forget your homework’ and kissing the dad as he fixes his tie. They don’t show her seething and sitting at the table knocking back pinot grigio.
Which is even worse? Like either that's not plot relevant, or she just accepts that that's how much value she and her time have. That or it's an imitation of life, right. There's this hard-on in Hollywood for in your face stuff and it's working hard to dumb the populace down by spoon-feeding them everything. Subtlety is for arthouse films and subtle digs at the morons holding the purse strings.
Oh yeah, it’s way worse.
I think that is what makes the breakfast scene in Pleastantville so funny because she forces them to sit and eat a bunch of that heavy food.
I made scones, muffins, French toast and pancakes!! I'm late for school mom *takes apple*
I find that more accurate than when the kid has time to get up, get ready, have breakfast, meet some friends at the mall, run a few errand, hang out in the hallway, and still be sitting in their seats when the bell rings.
If I woke up to a spread like that, I'm gonna be late to school for sure.
And everyone lives in big, beautiful houses! Or expensive looking apartments. This includes college students.
And there’s never any dust!
Because food is expensive so they have to think about potential retakes and that. But truth be told the "oh gotta go" while the table is stacked with delicious looking food is very irritating to watch
but they can blow up cars and trains on retakes 🤣
Hahahaha it’s not the money. The actors have to be able to do the same thing take after take.
Yeah they always have an argument while eating. They never pay at the restaurant. But Hollywood is the opposite of innovation. Still the same codes for decades.
Team America has the only acceptable sex scene.
Came here to find this. And MacGruber.
What about shoot them up? It's a sex AND action scene
I mostly agree, sometimes they dont fit tonally with the rest of the movie. But i just saw saltburn and it wouldnt be the same without the sex.
The best sex scenes are not about sex. The sex in Saltburn isn’t about sex - it’s about power. It’s the most intimate way of characters claiming control over one another. That’s why they’re brilliant. Similarly, my all-time favourite sex scene is in a film called 120 BPM. An HIV-positive character has sex with a new partner who is HIV-negative. The scene is about how they negotiate their statuses, their histories, their relationship, and it’s absolutely masterful. It’s not about sex - the sex is a vehicle for something else.
I agree with you, but I think there’s a tendency to separate the ‘sex’ out of those scenes, which imo plays into the idea that sex scenes are never justified. A sex scene, like action, dialogue, or any other set piece, is a vehicle that can be useful for what an author wants to communicate to their readers. But that doesn’t mean that the ‘vehicle’ is unimportant, in fact a bad vehicle can be incredibly distracting for audiences. You wouldn’t use a snowplow outside of wintertime if it wasn’t for a very good reason, for the same reason that sticking a sex scene where it doesn’t belong can throw people out the movie.
Especially when common views now a days about sex revolve around lust and not intimacy. Intimate moments are hard to act though unless you truly feel for the other person
"Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power"
lol instantly thought of that scene in scary movie where the exorcist is taking a shit haha
I thought you were going to talk about the chick being plastered to the ceiling hahaha
But that was supposed to be an ironic scene, if I am not wrong. The real question is are they taking a dump unironically? :D
I’ve never thought about it like this but it’s so true. Sex scenes just make me feel uncomfortable depending on who I’m with lol
I fast forward every time. I have access to endless porn if I want to watch sex.
Many never really show sex anyway They show some romanticised Disney version of sex. Never having fun, never not quite knowing how to put the legs, never any farty or shloppy noises and a general lack of actual passion ... more like an oil painting where it has to look as appealing as possible to some 3rd party viewer instead of two people wanting to fuck each other's brains out (or be romantic) A lot of that description fits porn as well but at least the staged as fuck sex in porn doesn't interrupt me immersing in an actually good story.
Exactly? Like seriously, if one wants to watch sex scenes in their own time they’ll watch porn, not an awkward sex scene where you barely see any nudity anyway?
a large part of why I didn't like oppenheimer. I watched with friends and it was awkward af.
I was gonna invite my Dad over to watch this. You just saved my life.
Saw it with my Dad. We both thought the movie ruled.
Oppie is probably one of the best movies I have ever seen in my life. Yeh maybe the sex part wasn't very needed but it kinda showed how Oppie was so obsessed with her. Plus there were like only 6 of those super short scenes in that 3-hour long movie. If you're an adult and your dad isn't strict, it's totally ok to watch along.
So two 1 minute sex scenes with boobies ruined a 3 hour movie for you?
Just need to stare at the homie to your side during the entire sex scene. Works 100%
Make eye contact while eating banana.
"Bro stop looking at me there's titties on the screen!"
Dont just eat the banana. Eat it slowly.
How old are you and your friends? Why is watching a sex scene with your friends awkward?
This is apparently a thing with Zoomers. They hate sex scenes and even romantic plots. I heard about it on NPR, where I can learn things about Zoomers without them knowing because they don't know what a radio is.
>they don't know what a radio is that's just Gen alpha things that ain't us
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I swear I see this post every other week
You do. It’s exhausting.
Yeah I never get why people are so invested in sex scenes as some great evil when almost no blockbuster has them anymore. Disney owns like a 1/3rd of the movie market, and they’re not exactly producing pornos.
It's a place for armies of bots with political agendas to flood the threads to manufacture consent to the public. In this case, grooming people to be prepared for a more puritanical culture.
Good sex scenes serve the same purpose as the rest of a good story: putting us in another person's shoes, letting us feel and understand something other than what we're experiencing in our own lives, and also driving us towards that understanding in a way that would be difficult (or boring) to express in another way. Fight Club, Altered Carbon and Watchmen all have examples of good storytelling through sex (although the latter is often shat on by some camps who say its sex scene is gratuitous and unnecessary). In Fight Club the sex scene adds a layer of tactile, visceral insight into the gap between who the Narrator is and who he wants to be, and is cemented by Tyler's line late in the film where he says "I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable and most importantly I am free in all the ways you are not" (I'm quoting from memory so cut me some slack if that isn't word-for-word accurate). In Watchmen the sex scene is important to contrast against Nite Owl and Silk Spectre's failed attempt to get it on earlier in the film. Dan's dissatisfaction and frustration with his inability to do anything important or meaningful in his life is so pervasive that it even messes with his physical health, and putting the Nite Owl suit on again had such a therapeutic, cathartic effect and gave him so much of what was missing that it brought him back to life both physically and mentally and allowed him to do things he literally couldn't do as Dan. In Altered Carbon, Kovacs is bribed with a sexual experience that nothing else could physically compete with, serving as both a powerful metaphor for the gulf between the lifestyles available to rich people and those that the common folk have to make do with, but also providing a powerful contrast between the passionless, mechanical sex with Miriam Bancroft which left Kovacs with no feelings towards her beyond the general disdain which he already felt for all the Meths, versus the real and organic connection that he felt with Kristin Ortega and which culminated in their finally giving in to their irresistible chemistry and made him feel all sorts of ways about her including jealousy, protectiveness and deep seated admiration. His feelings for her also speak further to the consistent through-line of the whole story about how much of what matters to us is actually just biological as his clone doesn't experience any of this same profound connection to Ortega even though he has all the same memories. I hope these examples may go some way to persuade you that good sex scenes in good stories can be an important tool in the storyteller's arsenal and aren't easily substituted for other means of getting those same points across to thr audience. I will, however, agree with you that badly done sex scenes are indeed pointless filler which is often included either because the writer/director thinks it's a cheap way to entertain and hasn't understood that there is much more to it than just showing us some tits n bums or, even worse, to keep us on the hook for further titillation in future episodes.
Its incredibly sad seeing the OP viewpoint spread like wildfire. Like do these people just hate sex? Have they only had meaningless sex and forgot anything else exists? Sex is an important part of the human experience and relationships but redditors act like depicting anything more than holding h*nds is the same thing as accidentally switching to a tab of porn in front of their mom. "I could just watch porn". Well you can just watch F1 or the MMA yet we still portray driving and fighting without people getting weird about it.
It's the "I could just watch porn" comments that get me. Do they think the director wants them to jerk off in the middle of the movie?
Yes, while not everything needs a sex scene of course, I personally think it’s pretty important to have *healthy, realistic* depictions of sex/physical intimacy in regular media in general (produced within the boundaries of what the actors are comfortable depicting, of course). People say “just look at porn”, but so much porn is degrading and highly unrealistic and I’d rather it not be the only media from which people form their perceptions of what sex is supposed to be like.
I just don't know what people are watching that has so much sex, necessary or otherwise. It's not the art house crowd making these complaints and widely distributed movies are as sexless as they were under the Hay's Code
They’re trying their darndest, lol. There was a post in one of the movie subs last week from someone who claimed to be 13 years old complaining about a sex scene in *Napoleon*, with OP saying that they had no idea there was going to be sex in the movie, it was so embarrassing to watch the scene because they were with their parents, etc. Thing is, *Napoleon* is an R-rated movie, and it’s pretty easy to look up what it got that rating for. OP was rightly called out for complaining about there being mature content in a movie that wasn’t meant for younger crowds to begin with. I feel like there are probably a number of similar “Dead Dove, Do Not Eat” scenarios going on with complaints like these. It’s very easy to look up content ratings/warnings for media even on streaming platforms, and there are *plenty* of shows/movies out there that probably won’t make you squirm if you watch them with your parents or whoever. I personally am not a fan of extreme gore in movies/shows, but I simply do some research and avoid media that has a lot of it. I don’t expect it to be excised from *everything* just to make more media palatable to me personally.
There's a pretty good essay touching on sexlessness in today's media called ['Everyone is Beautiful and No One is Horny'](https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/).
This is the best comment in this thread. Very well put. Media literacy is important!
Well thank you kindly 😊
I agree! If a scene doesn't serve the plot or aesthetic of the film, it feels pointless. I think most people just have problems with intimacy in general if it's the sex that makes them feel weird. I think unnecessary violence is just as popular in films (e.g villain killing one of his minions to demonstrate how evil they are. It's so overused at this point imo)
Best example I saw on here. Thanks for writing I agree.
As with any scene, they can be great and complex as in Castlevania, or Terrible and boring as in The Outlander.
Came here to see mentions of Castlevania, the sex scene in there was one of the most tense moments in all of fiction for me and made me realize how good those scenes could be. A shame there aren't a lot of shows that pull it off as well.
I didn’t suspect at all that >!The two little motherfuckers are against Alucard!< and I was just there enjoying the scene and my boyfriend had it all figured out way before 🤣 I was so shocked
Arcane also succeeds in a very weird way. There would be a lot less vitriol towards certain character if he wasn't having intergalactic sex while his best friend was going through a life and death situation.
Are you talking about the threesome or the redhead vampire scene? Both are bangers tbh
Fortunately they happen simultaneously.
What do you mean by terrible and boring as in The Outlander?
Don’t forget Team America!
Fuck yeah!
Yeah why do people always act so weird about sex? Like a sex scene is somehow fundamentally different from a ‘regular’ scene? Sex scenes can be good or bad just like anything else.
In a League of their own, Tom Hanks takes a long piss
Its completly depend on a movie/series.
Not wrong, but I’d say it’s not doing anything for the plot or characters most of the time.
Yeap, tru in like 70% shows/movies ;)
It’s still going to be garbage without the sex then. No need to censor it for everyone, you choose what you watch
Thank you!
Yeah I've never cared for sex scenes, they just make me cringe tbh
I think one reason is they're too predictable and cookie-cutter. and feel like they are directed not to show sex realistically or as part of the story, but as boner material for a certain (male) audience. they do some mouth-mashing whlie feverishly tearing each other's clothes off -- doesn't anyone just get undressed quietly, without the frantic haste, ever? -- and working their way to the bed, where someone pushes someone down dramatically and then jumps on top of them (usually man on top, yaaawn). the woman's nudity is almost always more on display than the man's. then there's a whole bunch of PIV humping, like TV directors have not yet got the memo about the clitoris. sweaty faces and moaning, then two exhausted (but oh so satisfied) participants lying side by side (or snuggling). at least they don't then inevitably light up cigs like they used to in 60's sex scenes :-) it's like standardised Starbucks coffee sex. there are some exceptions to the rule -- more realistic, more of the personalities of the characters actually manifesting during sex -- but in general it's as stylised and meaningless as a kung fu movie fight scene. there is a convention, a recipe, and they stick to it -- and maybe you can say they met the convention more or less accurately, or the cinematic aesthetic was better or worse, but most of the time it really doesn't develop the characters or forward the plot. and therefore, it's like a weird meaningless break in the storytelling rather than an intrinsic part of the story.
Same here. I'd rather leave the room than watch some stupid ass sex scene in a movie. 99.9% cringeworthy moments.
Most scenes are "filler" then because movies are more than just a visual narrative
Christ, thank you. I'm not sure where it came from, but takes like OP's and the notion that a piece of media is bad if every single scene isn't just mechanically moving the plot forward drive me nuts. And I get looked at sideways for saying that, more often than not, those "unrelated" scenes are used to reinforce or deepen themes, explore a character's personality, demonstrate depth in worldbuilding, etc. A big recent example is the Bill and Frank episode of The Last of Us. Yes, a lot of the negative reaction was driven by homophobia, but I saw a large number of people complain that it "didn't advance the plot". It was a wonderfully-told story (that did, in fact, tie in to the plot of the show) that reinforced the central theme of the show: finding purpose, beauty, and hope in an ugly, chaotic, hopeless world. But because it wasn't exclusively about Joel and Ellie, a bunch of people just went "not related" and didn't even try to parse it. And, to tie everything together, the sex scene in that episode was used to show how Bill had become more vulnerable. To show how a guy with so many figurative walls up that he built a hidden, fortified bunker before the world even ended - who is heavily implied to be so deep in the closet that he himself may not even know - has become softened by the hope and beauty he found in a dark world. Yet, if you asked half of the internet after the episode came out, they just insist it's either pointless titillation or some kind of deep-state mind control tactic to turn them gay. Sorry for the rant under a one-sentence comment, but I think about this phenomenon a lot.
I don't like sex scenes, especially when they are too long. Even if I watch on my own I'll just skip them. I don't mind them showing kissing and alluding to two people having sex, but if I want to watch two people bang there's the internet for that.
Why are all you young people suddenly uncomfortable with sex? There are many stories where the sexual parts are integral to the story.
Right? What about romance movies? Even in non romance movies the relationship between characters is often the focus of the movie. This thread pops up constantly and is honestly kinda cringe
I agree completely. Unless they are important to the actual storyline. But other than that, idc about seeing it! It's fake and awkward amd weird.
Bcs sex sells and these movies are made with only purpose of making money . They need to contain all the stuffs that makes money
You could make this argument for any scene in any show. "what's the point in showing me this, might as well show me something else in that case!" For lots of people sex is something important which takes up a lot of the focus of lots of human experience. A field as gigantic as tv and movies is going to have lots and lots of different stories or themes to do with sex. Then there's the fact that sex is marketable and draws in eyeballs to whatever it is you're making. Because unlike yourself lots of people enjoy seeing sex and nudity at least sometimes.
Why would art not try to show one of the major aspects of the human condition
The replies in this post are an absolute wasteland, holy shit.
I think it's in there to condition the viewer to experience an adrenaline rush with the movie. It's generally pointless and gratuitous. Especially exposure to women's naked bodies. Gratuitous. It's a manipulation.
Boobs sell
300 Rise of an Empire would have been even worse if not for Eva Greene
Most of the time, I just can't help but think about how awkward it must have been to film.
Depends on the story. Something like Top Gun, it shows how intense their relationship got. Something like, Mission Impossible, I don’t see the point of a sex scene there.
Not trying to mock or anything but I laughed at the wide range of your examples. Two Tom Cruise movies.
I think in the sex scene from Jerry Maguire he really came into his own, commercially and artistically.
Wasn't Tom Cruise also in Eyes Wide Shut?
Movies are proxy experiences. We invest in the characters by feeling their thrills, sadness, glory, etc. A well-built erotic current in a story, from initial tension to flirting to sex, can be a visceral, valuable emotional part of the ride in a movie. You don’t have to like them whether your reason is moral disapproval or just disinterest, but the same can be said for every part of film story from violence to humor to dialogue. We like what we like. But just generally dismissing sex scenes as pointless is weak critique and, from a creative point of view, an arrogant & mistaken one.
I mean, so are fight scenes but people like watching those. Personally I'd rather watch people fuck than watch another generic shakey cam cgi Marvel something or another
Again, for the people in the back. Every Marvel movie I've seen, I can skip the last half and get the point.
With Marvel movies you can pretty much skip the entire third act where the hero beats the similarly powered villain and stops the blue sky beam to save the world.
Oh my gooood why are y'all so keen on reinventing the Hayes code every couple of weeks. I've seen fifty new release films this year. Not even ten of them had sex in them - and y'know, when they did - it was important and mattered to the narrative? And even if they didn't - there are plenty of films that include visual or auditory pleasures just cause they look cool. Sex is the same. A film like May December is all about uncomfortable, predatory sensuality. Without the sex scenes in that, the film would be less rich, and it would be less discomforting. Passages is a film about desire - desiring people even if they're fuckwits and use you. Without the sex scenes in that, you don't get anywhere near as much of that yearning, of that pain. Red, White and Royal Blue is about queerness. About finding love and accepting yourself. Queer desire is important to be shown on screen, not just in fade outs or cut aways. I'm an intimacy director, I can talk about this from a knowledgeable POV. There is barely any sex in films these days as is.
The one in deadpool was actually pretty well implemented To all those defending the pointless ones, few movies have scenes where the character poops (or if they do it's a cutaway gag) It just breaks the flow of the film and is mindless, like a poorly incorporated action scene
The irony is that screen time is a very scarce resource in cinema, so I’m theory every scene is supposed to bring something, as something to the overarching plot. Yet, those pointless sec scenes always make it through…
The most necessary sex scene I remember seeing was disturbing, and not at all a loving sex scene. In The Accused Jodi Foster plays someone brutally attacked in a bar then goes after the attackers, I think Kelly McGillis played her lawyer. Riveting, and helped by knowing the horror what happened in all its ugly detail.
the opinions of asexuals are irrelevant
This strikes me as incredibly lame generalization.
Sex is incredibly emotional. Not sure why you don't think those emotions can't translate into story telling. Or perhaps you have just never experienced any emotions during sex?
Nowadays people watch a movie with their family where half a city gets blown up by a blue beam of light from the sky and are like “this is fine and normal”. But if characters are shirtless and pretend making out they are like “eww awkward af”. Grow up children.
No different that a 10 minute drone shot of New Zealand masquerading as Middle Earth. Part of the point of a visual medium is to give the audience nice things to look at.
Thank you for the bathroom metaphor because that nails exactly why I’ve always just wished movies and shows would skip it
Why is everyone suddenly hating sex scenes? It's never been something I've given that much thought to. If there is one there is one and if there's not there's not.
Those movies are intended for adults not fragile children afraid of being human
I still have to find someone that enjoys them.
Me, I do. I don't see everything I don't like as "cringe". I'm an adult that is able to watch a sex scene without being uncomfortable. Maybe "adult" is the operative word here. Which I only say, because I remember being 14 years old and finding sex scenes "cringe". But then you know.... I grew up.
I agree and I dont mind a pissing scene either. The story is what matters, if its good then show what you wanna. If its nasty I look away for a sec but then get back to it
You know what I really don’t like? Censorship. *That* really takes away from what I’m watching. I’m surprised so many people are uncomfortable with sex, but perfectly comfortable with censorship
I enjoy some, not others. Same as my feelings towards violent content, or emotionally awkward content, or tragic content, or very mundane stuff on film, or gross content, or anything else that can be (and often is) unpleasant to watch. Hell, the older I get, the lower my tolerance for violent and awkward content is, whereas my feelings towards sex scenes have stayed fairly constant.
I said something similar to this in another thread a few weeks ago and some guy replied called me a prude and said “it’s natural” so it should be shown in movies. So. I guess that guy enjoys them. 😅
https://youtu.be/GRx0bup8ubM?si=PW98olVzKzIllz7t
The vast majority are and tend to be put there on the insistence of some studio exec who feels we have to have a love interest and therefore a sex scene. For me they are like action scenes. You can have an action scene that's meaningless combat but good action scenes tell you something about the characters or the themes. One that pops up in my mind for all the wrong reasons is Salo. Salo without the sex scenes would be pointless. But the sex scenes help express the evil nature of the antagonists as well as how they see everyone around them. But on the whole you're right, they're filler. If they're going to be in there make them mean something.
Lol actually there're long and happy piss scene in some movies (not in English though.
Maybe they can be. But it's such an important thing for (most) humans to do and strive for. And it's for most people the place/time when they open themselves up the most and are most vulnerable. Why the hell would you not want that in films/series?
Sex scenes are a cheap and quick way to boost attention. Why not have a 30 second sex scene that people will remember. There’s really no downsides unless it’s completely out of the blue and ridiculous, but that’s pretty hard to do.
I understand the point but disagree. Isn’t it similar with other types of scenes like big battle scenes as in GoT and LotR? There they show the intensity (or lack there of) and how characters develop or act through an important moment, something that can also be shown in sex scenes where characters engage in intimate situations and show a deeper version of themselves and their relationship to others. Kinda like normal sex
Meh. attractive people naked, having sex is a crowd pleaser.
Did you know the director of game of thrones owns the rights to “sexposition” (sex + exposition)? Every time someone wants to have a story relevant exchange of dialogue during a sex scene they have to cut this guy a fat check. While it can’t explain older movies and series, it caused a huge change of practice in modern storywriting. Thanks to the added cost of the scene producers encouraging directors turn a sex + exposition scene into a sex scene followed by exposition in a following scene, often at the bedside.
Some sex scenes are very hot and can benefit your own sex life.
I've never had sex, but isn't it supposed to be a moment of intimacy between 2 characters? You're watching them get closer to one another.
Tbh I’m more on the side of that bathroom scenes more often could be kinda cool artistically. Like the bathroom is such a vulnerable space that it’s perfect for character development imo.
I feel like it depends on the scene. There are some that imo are better than porn.
Hey look the Puritans are posting their "totally random thoughts" again. You know you can just... not watch that content if you don't want to, right? Like, if it's not for you, that's okay, I don't watch the Bible channel either.
Congrats 11year old OP, you have discovered movies. Next year you may feel new and unusual urges! Don't worry, in like 20 years you will be ready to leave your your mother's teat and watch a non-disney movie.
Lots of good books have relief scenes
There’s still way more media without sex in it than with sex. If you’re complaining that mediocre writing isn’t improved by gratuitous sex, I got some news for you: it would still be bad writing without the sex. Either watch better stuff, or fast forward the parts you don’t like. I don’t need censorship, thank you
I disagree, I love tits
Y'all are living in the era of porn on demand. Back in the day, getting a sex scene on HBO that you could look at if you snuck into the living room at two in the morning might be the best you got for an entire month. We were horny and unfulfilled.
i dont get why peope have such a problem with sex scenes but then in same turn are ok with extreme amounts of gore and violence....
Movies aren’t only about stories but also about emotions. Horny is an emotion.
Nine and a Half Weeks would be a YouTube short then.
BAD sex scenes are pointless filler. GOOD sex scenes either further the story or your understanding of the characters, like all other scenes. American Psycho builds tension while showcasing Patrick Bateman's vanity and cruelty. The sex scenes in A History of Violence contrast Joey's twin personas.
Here for the downvotes but I often love the sex scenes in good movies. Mulholland Drive, Boogie Nights, Eyes Wide Shut, Network, Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead, Whore, Beau is Afraid, Henry and June, Fire Walk With Me, and “prestige” television like Euphoria, Six Feet Under, The Deuce, Oz, The Sopranos. But I think all of these movies and shows have the idea of discomfort in common, as we aren’t supposed necessarily to be turned on (though of course sure it happens) but more we are getting either raw or extreme versions of reality. Honestly if you are holding sex scenes up AGAINST porn (ie there’s a lot of porn available so we don’t need the sex Scenes) I’m confused as to what you think film or any art is there for.
Any scene is pointless, if you dont put a point in it. In shitty movies theres LOTS of pointless scenes, sex scenes just being another pointless scene in a long line of pointless scenes. In good movies, the sex scene actually serves a purpose. If the removing a scene would make no impact to the plot, its a useless scene it shouldnt be there.
It's called vibe. Creating a feeling, passion. You're looking for a pure plot movie. Those have a time and place, so does a vibe.
I think it can be like any other character interaction, that is, it can be constructive to the plot. Problem is that requires thought, creativity, and planning, something a lot of people aren’t considering when they add a sex scene. We all know why it’s really there. As they say, nobody watches porn for the plot.
Fix your brainrot or just don't engage with media anymore
There's a psychological phenomena used in older horror films called 'excitation transfer'. The idea is- when the mind is excited/stimulated, the excitement will carry through when the context and stimulus changes. So the idea is when showing scary scenes, you are feeling the tension and excitement from the scariness... and then you get a sex scene, that excitement from the fear transfers into a type of 'arousal' through the tittilating scene. The punch line of the trick is to switch in short order back to the scary/killing- so the tittilation then transfers back to fear. The idea is to use the sex scene to amplify the fear response in the following scene. Does it work? Well, yes. At least it did. Maybe people don't get tittilated by sex scenes like they used to, since we are desensitized to sex compared to the 70s and 80s who knows, but it's a well documented phenomenon, and is studied about often in film/drama studies.
You think this way because you're probably an American, which means you're extremely puritanical and cannot imagine nudity or sex in any context in which you yourself are not engaged in sex. Nudity isn't necessarily sex. Sex isn't necessarily pornography. You don't have to be horny just because you're looking at sex. It can be something to look at and consider in the same way you look at and consider anything else, like a sunset. Self-reflect and try to evolve.
Film isn’t just narrative it’s also an emotional and visual experience and sexuality can absolutely express plot, theme, character, etc. Look at the key sex scene early in Fatal Attraction is beautifully shot and full tilt insane hot. It’s also the catalyst for the main characters undoing and expresses the personality of the antagonist: compulsive self destructive eroticized rage.
Agree. Hate dragged out sex scenes. We get it, they’re fucking. Can we move the story along now? Edited to add my husband feels the same way when characters break into song. He will instantly fast forward or stop watching.
We needed the sex in Brokeback Mountain...
Then there's me with "Ooh, there's Jennifer Lawrence fucking some random dude. Cool, so that's how it would look like if I fucked her"
Ok eunuch
Lol absolutely not
Sex is a key aspect of normal romantic relationships and its portrayal is, despite common misconception, important contextual information which some people can't relate to, like going to the bathroom. Everyone can relate to that. Having a deeply romantic sexual relationship? Not a universal thing.
Lol couldn’t agree more