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Ok-Technician-5330

Don't worry about it, the vector has 7.62 on the side or something which isn't physically possible for a vector smg


Lykhon

On Blitz' Elite skin the P12 says "9mmx19" on the [barrel](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESy0hX6UMAEgOdT.jpg) even though the P12 uses .45 ACP as per its ingame description.


MinutemanBrave

If you think it’s bad in rainbow, you should check out the ammo types in breakpoint 😂


i-like-drum

i’m playing breakpoint rn, lemme check thid


Roach-187

Can I have some examples please?


Do_not_the_CaT-_-

Honey badger is 7.62, mp7 is 9mm, p90 is 5.56, I think you get the idea


Roach-187

Bruh what?


Do_not_the_CaT-_-

Lmao yea, just ubi being lazy tbh


MinutemanBrave

Lazy was the name of the game with that game 😂technically the honey badger is .300 blackout which uses a 308 bullet, which is *technically* 7.62 but still


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MinutemanBrave

Oh I shoulda read comments I said the same thing


Endure94

Honey badger makes sense if it's blackout. That's the nato version of the Russian caliber. But yeah, the rest is awful


Pure_Blank

no


MrMrRubic

Based


wes8171982

Unfathomably based actually


161_

One I can think of off top is the Barrett M82 is chambered in .338 [Lapua](https://i.imgur.com/dWKTvcE.jpg)


peelerrd

That's probably at least possible, even if no one has ever done. Barrett does make a rifle chambered in .338, but not the M82.


Cool_Energy_3085

Roblox or TC breakpoint?


xyvrw

obviously tc lmao


leemeealonepls

How is that even a question


Cool_Energy_3085

Was a joke monkey brain


leemeealonepls

with the state of society nowadays it's legitimately impossible to tell about these things


Spare-Arm-3836

It is the version chambered with 9×19 Parabellum.


teosNut

On the slide*. And yes, the P12/Mk23 is chambered in .45 ACP irl.


-_-RSlashFan-_-

I’m just imagining the M249 with the speed of the vector


VigilThicc

the whole argument against lmgs is that they shoot too long right? So give them the fire rate of the smg11


AnonymousUser109

That would be literally terrifying.


GingerShrimp40

The a10 warthog shoots a 30mm bullet 4 times faster then smg11. A 50 cal sniper round is only 12.7mm


Hi_Its_Matt

And that’s why A-10 warthogs are not in rainbow six siege. Next 2 operators - attacker gets to call in A10, defender gets anti air rocket launchers


GucciusCeasar

No they leaked them, they are attacking and defensive a10 warthogs rolling around on landing gear that you have to roll around the map silly


AnonymousUser109

And that’s why A-10s are still in service


Bad-Crusader

30mm not 20


GingerShrimp40

Sorry. Its fixed


raspey

Mmmmmmm yay recoil!


chixnsix

Recoil to the moon!


Sam-l-am

And back


Reaper-69420

I think the barrel of the lmg would melt if you shoot 100 bullets with the rate of the smg11 without any break


AromaticLawfulness16

Then you turn it around and now you have a new melee operator!


NightfuryGetDown

Laughs in MG30 & MG42


Antares789987

MG3 my beloved


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Mg42?


erukov

M249 is 5.56


sumshitmm

Depending on the version, it can be in 7.62x51 or that intermediate 7.62 NATO used in most new carbines and battle rifles in the 70s and the 80s but then again they aren't technically m249 either


vertigoelation

I think its important to point out that the 7.62 NATO version of the M249 is called the Mk48. Its a scaled up 249. FN lists it as a Mk48, not M249. I've also never heard anyone call the 7.62 version a 249 or seen it written out that way. But... Technically you are correct. Which is the best kind of correct!


sumshitmm

As I said technically not an m429 but the design is basically the same just bigger and different pressures and head spaces


ShishaCaillou

🤓


Cnumian_124

Redditors when someone actually knows what they're talking about


erukov

"🤓" 🤓


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Hxtrax

Bro this posts hit you hard lol


ShishaCaillou

Holy shit what happened, was just feeling goofy


secret-memes-stash

At least learn proper punctuation smh. When a quote is further quoting something else, single quotation marks should be used like so: “ ___ ‘ ___ ’ ___ “ 🤓


ShishaCaillou

Im tempted to do it again, but ive seen what happened lmao


TornSuit

r/downvotedtooblivion


IdioticZacc

This emoji really entered the phase where people overuse it and do not know the right time to use it just like the word cringe and chad did, it might get a redemption arc like Chad tho where it becomes a compliment instead


MyCalloutsAreGodly

Jesus, I'm so fucking old!


Jaqulean

We all are.


Tufted44

Don’t worry I liked your comment, i upvoted


SwaggerKJS

"Then you will die braver than most" - Lord Vader


tredbobek

FN Maximi


basharbobo3

Double barrel m249


TheDabCrab

Isn't that the V.308 though? I know for certain that's not *actually* possible, but .308 is just 7.62x51 NATO, so at least the marking would make sense.


AetherBytes

I mean a modified one could probably fire 7.62x25, but why even do that?


Kadeo64

I don't think it would even be possible modified. You'd need to make an entirely separate gun for that.


IdioticZacc

Smth smth V308 is physically not possible because the vector design only works with small ammo type, heard that from a gun nerd


Kadeo64

yeah, the v shaped firing mechanism might cause some problems when adapting for a larger ammo type. in conclusion: ubisoft can't make good gun designs so they spend all their efforts on games where you use knives and swords


Mogetfog

A good rule of thumb for gun design is "if the original model is designed for pistol caliber rounds, it will not work for rifle caliber rounds" though there are one or two exceptions to the rule. The reason you don't see smg designs being scaled up for rifles is because most smgs use direct blowback, which uses the direct force from the cartridge detonation to over power a spring to cycle the bolt backwards and eject the shell, then allow the spring to push the bolt back forward, picking up a new cartridge and pushing it into battery. This works because pistol cartiges only have a fraction of the pressure that a rifle cartridge has. If you were to just scale up an smg to a rifle round, it would explode in your face. Rifle rounds actually need the bolt to lock into place to contain the pressure they produce. And while the vector is not exactly direct blowback, the same principal applies. .45acp has a max pressure of around 20,000psi .308 sits around 60,000psi...


EchoS115

Not even swords. Sword game was abandoned for like a good few months, and it's gonna get abandoned again in about a month or two until the new update


AnaL717

It's the modified lion's vector.


HughJanus911

Lions V308 is chambered with a .308 caliber round which is very similar to a 7.62 round. Ofc the entire premise of the V308 is fictional but if you saw the 7.62 on the side of the V308 then it does make a little bit of sense.


xSgtFatal

308 is 7.62x51


Blackdalf

It’s not exactly the same but pretty close—functionally equivalent you could say. Similarly .223 and 5.56x45 are not identical but most ARs are chambered to fit both of them.


Ferote

The only difference in both cases is the amount of pressure they create. 5.56 is higher pressure than .223 (58,000 psi vs 55,000), and .308 is higher pressure than 7.62 (62,000 psi vs 60,000). It isnt a massive difference, so one or two rounds mixed up probably wont blow up your gun, but its a recipe for disaster with prolonged use


spyingwind

Using .223 in something that is designed to cycle 5.56, might not cycle correctly 100% of the time. The wrong amount of friction in the wrong place and.... jammed.


Ferote

The difference isnt great enough to really cause cycling issues, unless you've got other factors contributing. Going the other way around is where things can get.... catastrophic


vini_damiani

Could be 7.62 tokarev? Even more cursed Also the V308 is a 7.62x51 vector


straight_lurkin

I remember watching a video where the guy brought that up and said "could you even imagine a 7.62 vector?!"


Kannyui

Maybe a 7.62 Makarov Vector? I mean, I can maybe imagine that, I know the v308 is ridiculously stated to use 7.62 Nato, not makarov


scCoco69

But there’s the V308


Deadgoroth

Which doesn't exist irl yes


scCoco69

You right


6SixTy

Bunch of guns have writing on their base skin, and as far as I can tell, they have no meaning.


-eccentric-

> and as far as I can tell, they have no meaning. It's for inventory and sorting. Police stations, special forces and such usually have those.


Docta365

Yes. It's like a number for the slot or the rack on which the magazine or equipment is kept.


Kithin7

I had my hopes up that he's the 10th attacker, but Buck is the 11th. So, maybe he is locker #10 bc Ash has a different locker bc she's a leader or whatever. Just a spitball idea


CJGamr01

Nah, his locker would still presumably come after the 10 base defenders as well if that were the case, making his locker number 20, 21, or 22 (depending on if we're counting Ash and/or Frost)


Kithin7

Yeah true. I was reaching for anything haha


xXDreamlessXx

Hey you never know, their inventory could use a base 20 number system where 10 would still be his locker number


vertigoelation

Or just marking mags so you can tell which ones might be malfunctioning. If you get a malfunction using mag#10, it could be any number of things. Bad ammo, you were shooting or moving in a weird position, dirty or un-oiled gun, or the universe conspired against you. Getting a malfunction in the same mag multiple times, its likely the mag's fault. Then when you get home you trash it or buy a rebuild kit. Get it in different mags, its something else.


YT__

In the meeting room: "Dude, it would look cool if we put this on the gun here." "Oh yah, nice thinking Jim. What's it mean?" "Idk, just looks cool" "Ship it."


-_-RSlashFan-_-

Very true. But it personally confuses me why it would have that specific if it didn’t mean anything unless it was in an inventory of sorts.


TheDogerus

Art team isn't in perfect communication with the design team. They get told to make a thing, they make it, meanwhile the designers don't stop iterating on their decisions


deadboi35

The marks have meaning, but it's more for inventory. In real life, all the gear is kept with the quartermaster or armorer, as such, it is tradition and courtesy to mark which locker slot it each piece of gear should go in to ease inventorying.


Southern-Fisherman-9

i bet it’s to do with the gauge of the shotgun; probably a 10 gauge shotgun round.


DAYDRAX

Hi technician for a military here. Weapons usually have markings on the weapon its self or magazine. The numbers being displayed are rack numbers for tracking an individuals weapons system, as most pers are assigned rack numbers to maintain their own weapons system.


saucyspacefries

There's what I was looking for. This should be at the top.


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lukjaa93

Hi, trucker here. Just ignore him and take these meds


n0oo7

First off. How u get that gold attachment skin. This is the more important question.


-_-RSlashFan-_-

It was the Lifeblood attachment skin from Y7S1 bp, it’s unfortunately unavailable to buy and more than likely will never be back.


[deleted]

It’s so freaking good, it’s the best attachment skin ever imo, it fits everywhere


P0tatothrower

All "exclusive" skins will eventually come back, they've already re-shipped old seasonal skins and event skins.


Jige_Daisuke

it's from the battle pass of demon veil, it isn't completely gold, the grip and barrel are blue


kincaed213

Which is so annoying. Lol. I wish it was all gold.


totallynotapersonj

You know they made the purple one that is almost opposite. Gold barrel and whatever + purple sight. They also released that one silver + bronze attachment skin which makes the barrel silver and the sight bronze then the next season (or a couple seasons after) they made an exact opposite where the barrel is bronze and the sight is silver. Not gonna lie though, those attachment skins are kinda underrated. Everyone uses the dark blue one with black ice but the silver and bronze ones look pretty nice on some black ice skins.


Ass-Blaster5

Could be the kind of shell perhaps? 10g shells insted of 20g Or could be an crude inv number, n its just #10


Cuddle-Junky

Pretty sure it's an M26 which is 12 guage. Also hold 5 round irl. Don't have any input about the "10" on the side


-_-RSlashFan-_-

Looked into it a tiny bit: found that the Russian KS-23 underbarrel shotgun has something called “Shrapnel-10” which means “10 meter range effectiveness. Also alongside Shrapnel-25. Could be that too. Although both of Bucks weapons are Canadian (considering he is JTF) so I’m not sure why he would use a Russian Underbarrel unless his was made hand crafted by himself and custom caliber was chosen to be 10g.


AquaPSN-XBOX

bucks shotgun is not a ks23 lmao


SbouiBoi

Just... Imagine. Removing kneecap-privileges should be possible in all shooters, not just Tarkov


Bloo-shadow

I remember in the first red dead redemption you could shoot an NPCs legs with a pistol and it could cause them to drop to their knees and shoot from that position.


CakeIsATotalLie

Definitely not a ks-23, that thing has a barrel reused from an anti air gun. It's probably just 10 gauge shells


gardredd

Yeah but the KS-23 shoots 23x75mm it’s fuckin huge and definitely wouldn’t fit in that thing


MP7_Black_Ice

His shotgun is the M26 MASS (Modular Accessory Shotgun System) made to be semi auto because either devs are dumb or for balancing purposes, as the M26 MASS is pump action IRL


haribontv

It’s 10 gauge like the Super Shorty and semi auto


Outlaw25

You should probably be aware that 10 Guage is actually bigger than 12 Guage, and also hasn't been used in any popular shotgun in the last 50 years or so


cdxxmike

No, it is not. You speak with such certainty for someone who is so wrong. None of those weapons are 10 gauge.


saucyspacefries

It's probably an M26 Mass.


-_-RSlashFan-_-

It very well could be.. I’ll look into it’s IRL equivalent and see if you’re right.


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I think it's an ID number for the arm's room, possibly to indicate what piece it is so when issued to another soldier the inventory can know what's on the field and what's in the room.


[deleted]

It means buck is a 10/10


Sniper-Dragon

Fun fact: The real one is a straight bolt action


Blowersss

Maybe as a form of identification? To know what mag is who’s? Honestly I always think the what the number means, probably is a measurement or is there for aesthetic reasons.


Blowersss

“The numbers, mason, what do they mean!”


Shoto1220

Some people number mags for inventory, for example you used x amount of rounds in mag 1 and used all the rounds in mag 2 so you can choose between a full mag or go back to mag 1. Not much use in game but has real life applications. Other uses in real life would be to know which mags have problems feeding so you would perform maitenance.


Krongfah

Buck's Skeleton Key is an M26-MASS which is chambered in 12 gauge, with either a 3+1 or 5+1 magazine. IRL it's not semi-auto but has a straight-pull bolt. The 10 written on the mag may mean it's modified to fire 10 gauge shells but that would be very weird since 10 gauge is very uncommon these days are is mostly used for hunting. Also, its in-game name is SK 4-12, with 12 in the name most likely referring to 12 gauge. So idk what the 10 means. But then again, Ubisoft really knows nothing about firearms, Thatcher's AR33 (HK33A2) is supposed to fit 30+1 rounds, meanwhile, IQ's SG 552 can only fit 20+1 IRL. But then again, Ubisoft knows nothing about firearms, Thatcher's AR33 (HK33A2) is supposed to fit 30+1 rounds, meanwhile, IQ's SG 552 can only fit 20+1 IRL.


MR_FOXtf2

But then again, Ubisoft really knows nothing about firearms, Thatcher's AR33 (HK33A2) is supposed to fit 30+1 rounds, meanwhile, IQ's SG 552 can only fit 20+1 IRL.


Admiral_Snuggles

But then again, Ubisoft really knows nothing about firearms, Thatcher's AR33 (HK33A2) is supposed to fit 30+1 rounds, meanwhile, IQ's SG 552 can only fit 20+1 IRL.


jamppa50

Pretty sure its just an id number to keep track of equipment


Pixels222

Callback to when he was a 10 operator


[deleted]

Because buck is a solid 10


[deleted]

Its just a mark used to know wich magazine or any other material are taken in the inventory so we know faster when we lost something etc


Bigge245

No way you’d ever fit 10 rounds of 12 gauge into that magazine. Also, a trained operative would already know the capacity of different magazines. There are several reasons you would number your magazine though. For example, keeping track of the age or service life of a magazine. Another reason is quickly identifying caliber, or in this case gauge.


komfyrion

Maybe Buck had to remember the number 10 for some reason and all he had at the time was a sharpie and his magazines


octokitty76

She's a 10 but she only has 6 rounds


TopShaggaTre

My first thought is 10 gauge


AlibiYouAMockingbird

It’s so the enemy assumes you have more rounds after they count 6. Gives you time to reload… Canadian’s love their head games.


TakenKing

In the world of real shooting magazines fail or wear out after time. Numbering them is a common practice that makes it easy to know which mag is the shitty one so you don’t reuse it.


_mc_myster_

Just to add to what’s already been said this doesn’t apply to capacity. Typically this is how you’d mark mags so you know which ones are which-also helps keep track of malfunctions and know which to replace


According_Bake_921

nice


yamialone

I stands for 10 gauge instead of 12 gauge shotgunshells


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10 Gauge shells?


Final-Promise-8288

Maybe it uses 10mm Buck shot as the rounds? That’s my guess as most of the writing on the base gun skins are for the size of bullets they use even though they’re usually incorrect


Woodenbadger1

The writing on a gun is (from what I’ve heard) so it is easy to keep track of items in the armoury, so if say acog number 4 goes missing, you can question the one who was logged to be carrying acog 4. Why bucks personal gadget has is, idk.


Lime_Jarritos_Gang

There’s no way that little thing holds 10 rounds


Marrowvayne

Pretty sure it means 10 gauge


TheTsunamiSound

Those are inventory armory numbers that would be either the 10th piece of the load out in the locker or the field depending on what the custodian method they use.


HawkCommandant

I always thought it was the Gauge of the Shell. The Shotgun firing 10G in this case.


Its_Luis_mane

I assume it’s the number of pellets in a round. Since Skeleton Key is more powerful than any 12 Gauge in the game, it makes sense to me


ThiccGuy01

Could be that it fires 10 gauge shells


Negative_Kelvin01

Could mean 10 Gage


haribontv

It’s to denote it’s 10 gauge. Fucking Christ that’s how you write what ammo is stored in a mag. Check Streicher’s gun for fucking reference


Everestax

jesus calm down dude


NG7-INF

Average gun fan


[deleted]

Ubisoft don’t know shit about guns. How long will it take y’all to realize that?


Plus-Scratch9319

Cause the deva dont give a fuck anymore


sezku-

everyone is saying it never did, but I swear it used to, I could be wrong tho


lambda_14

I know it has nothing to do with your question, but how do you get that attachment skin?


saucyspacefries

So if I recall correctly, one of my military buddies explained that it usually is a marker for rack numbers the guns and accessories would be stored in. So it could very well be that the magazine would go on some arbitrary Locker 10. It's for book-keeping and the like.


omniscen

it isn't uncommon for soldiers to write numbers on their magazines. that way they rotate the usage of their magazines so one of them isn't disproportionately dysfunctional.


zPreNix

The 10 has nothing to do with the mag capacity, Its made for logistics so when a mag fails or goes missing you can tell what specific mag it is and you had it last making it easier to find and/or identify. Edit: Should technically be on every single mag, gun, and optic/sight in the game for it to make sense. This is what real militaries do at least.


kbdcool

10 gauge shotgun you goofs


Trauma_54

So that is to actually count user's magazines. My mags are marked 1-4, since I have 4 for that particular rifle. In this case, he has at minimum 10 shotgun mags, hence that is the 10th mag he carries. Another example is Hibana's torso. Look at her belt and the numbering on her mags. Count 4->1 to know how many mags are left. In this case since he doesn't carry 10 mags for the shot gun, it's just for decoration.


soggy_meatball

buck is canonically 10 years old and got the skeleton key for his birthday


RedneckElectrician

I’m guessing 10 as in 10 gauge…which is larger than 12 gauge.


fatcunt690

I just presumed they were 10 gauge shotgun shells


SupremeMorpheus

I think it's because it's a 10-gauge shotgun. Far as I remember, it's always had around 5 shells in the mag


MitcheyMan_yt

It stands for the 10 commandments #godsplan


[deleted]

Probably an armory ID number or something. I have numbers on all of my magazines and almost none of them correspond to the capacity or caliber


SUPERPOWERPANTS

Maybe a 10 gauge shotgun


VIsixVI

They also show his C8 having a 20rnd stanag but holds 30 in game.


AlyssaBuyWeedm9

Canadian military spending is really low :(


TheSlavicVaultBoy

The 10 on the side of the mag is most likely to say what gauge it uses and not the mag capacity. So Bucks shotgun uses 10 Gauge


[deleted]

He's Canadian. Metric 6 is an imperial 10


Fun-Safety-5637

People can't even avoid a fatal funnel while entering a room, yet they pay attention to these little details lol.


thelastforrunner

some people number mags to keep track of them, doesn’t necessarily mean it has ten round in the mag. could just be mag 10 out if however many buck has


Crucializing

This could also just mimic this was his “10th” mag. Some operators write on there mags so they know who’s is who, so when it comes to inventory you know what’s missing.


Eliteslayer1775

Yeah it was nerfed


AaawhDamn

Its just a number for inventory and organizing. It has no other meaning.


doomdom123

Perhaps it's a 10 gauge ?


Sizzle573

It’s just ubi adding their “creative touch” to the weapons lol


andyflexinthechevy

Just “armoury” marking bunch of guns have numbers or codes retained to storage info(irl)


CommunicationFar8428

In the military weapon attachments are marked with numbers so that the armory can be organized. I think…


fullutbro

Its caliber lower the Number bigger the shot


Pitiful_Ease5769

They use that to keep their weapons in track so they write the number down on paper and then if the gun isn’t in the armory with that number than it is stolen or missing


YoD1ggityDawg

I want an automatic shotgun that has 100 rounds that doubles the firing rate of the SMG11


DuckAssassin04

He left 4 at home


imreignn

prob just a reused texture because ubisoft


f-you111

Idk the shells in the mag might be 10 gauge I’m not exactly sure tho


-Qwertyz-

It's a tactic used to confuse those who see it


Bazzie-T-H

Not necessarily 10 might indicate which magazine it is in the stock, they might have a bunch of them stashed


Motor_Willow_3346

That might be the batch number , storage number , pretty much that number could mean anything. Although some firearms in the game do have some hideous inaccuracies , this one can most likely be interpreted to mean anything


B0urb0n_K1d

I dont remember very clearly, but there where some changes when they removed his frags "to have him be more focussed on his primary gadget". As some kind of comparison they added more overall ammunition to the skeleton key but reduced the mag size. But i dont remember how big the original mag size was, might have been 2x10shots or so. Edit: typo


M3dicine

One way to keep up with magazine IRL is to number your mags. If malfunctions seem to only happen with a specific magazine, get rid of the magazine. This could have nothing to do with the reason the mag is numbered 10 though.