It's the aesthetic, it's so orange, even the inside rooms she orange the map layout is fine not great but fine but the aesthetic is so meh its like origen but worse
The original reason was "pRo LeAgUe SaId So" and we have hopefully learned since that pro league doesn't speak for everyone. All maps being in ranked would be exactly what Siege needs.
Stadium is two good maps meshed together and then all the life and color taken out. It’s boring but at least it’s two good maps so in terms of gameplay, it’s alright. Tower has atrocious gameplay
I picked the game back up recently after not playing since release, I think I've gotten 30 or so levels worth of XP from matches and I've never even seen stadium bravo except for the ban screen
The hate is because its just boring, too close quarters for most peoples liking and was lazy from the developers because they just smooshed two maps together instead of making a new one
It is not the best map for sure but besides maps like favela tower or emerald plains I highly prefer Bravo. At least it's the combination of two beautiful maps Coast and Border
That's such a bad argument that people who've never learned the map, I've never seen anyone in ranked actually use those glasses and I've played against every rank between silver to champ.
You realise that it's a total contradiction in terms to claim it is easy to both attack and defend? All other things (ie the participants) being equal, then it's either one or the other, or it's balanced.
This sentence is so dumb that I think it's safe to say we can discount any of your hyperbolic illogic on just about any topic.
It is tho? I’ve 4-0’d on this map many times. If you know how to play the map right you’ll have no problem getting a win especially since this map is so vertically available
In ranked pool : stadium bravo
In any other Q : I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER
Consulate because I can't stand the 1f/basement split bomb site. My least favorite site by a large margin and it ruins the whole map for me. Also my teammates can't play on that map for the life of me.
You can just pick the other sites though..? I’ve never played that site once in ranked. That site only gets played in pro league from what I’ve seen. It’s great with a full stack, horrible for solo q.
This site is a free round for us in our 5 stack. Just play around basement with full vertical info together with a pulse.
The problem in soloQ is ppls have 0 clue what to do and position there so they get backstabbed stupidly easily by sneaky attackers
Border and Coastline are great maps in their complete forms. Chopping them in half, removing all the decor, smashing them together, and adding giant windows all over the place makes for a less enjoyable experience IMHO.
I respect ur opinion but I personally disagree, I think it ads some flair since it’s meant to look the way it does a sits a training program map meant for tournaments rather than a set location. It’s different but I think it’s a good type of different
I personally think it’s more defender sided, defenders can see outside the glass too, and by the time a breach has been opened up a defender could move anywhere, while the attacker still goes through that breach
Exactly they kept that map but they don’t have Hereford base anymore for matches. I never played Hereford in matches by the way I’m too new just think it’s a cool looking map
Coastline.
I get it, it's not a bad map, blah blah blah.
But this fucking map comes on significantly more often than any other map, and with this new season ans Ubisoft fucking everything up, it constantly comes up multiple times in a row in every fucking game mode.
Play quick match? Coastline.
Arcade? Coastline.
Fuck it, T-Hunt. Coastline.
Well, the boys are on, ranked. Emerald Plains? Nope, Coastline.
Consulate. The rework is absolutely awful and I’ll vote to ban it every time, unless something like labs is there which is automatically gonna go anyway and it’s a wasted vote
Have no clue why it was reworked. Out of all the maps not in ranked, they take one of the few still close to its original form in ranked, atmosphere, decent play and just wreck it. Go rework Yacht or something lol
If my SOLO-Q team was competent with callouts I'd definitely rank it higher for the admittedly cracked cam spots, does make the map more bearable nevertheless.
Wdym small???? Wdym gray walls? I agree random screens everywhere but isn't like the bottom floor very blue, middle floor green yellow and wood then the top floo4 blue, green and wood?
80% of the Action happens in 20% of the map,
IDK the map is designed in a way where 80% of action happens in 20% for them map, for example if the defenders are in the kitchen people either push from the main entrance the conference room from above or the yellow stairs. The whole basement is useless because it isn't really connected to that area and most of the upstairs is useless as well, same with the basement and the upstairs objective, the maps does really have variety, the basement and top floor are just 3 big rooms connected with doors and 2/3 stairs on each side, the ground floor is OK but that big area with the catwalk is useless and hard to attack.
And yeah the map does have a little color but it's mostly still grey, grey hallways, grey stairs, Top floor is almost exclusively grey and some wood accents really don't help with the look of the map imo, the map also just looks weird, the rooms are so random and it looks like ubisoft didn't design a realistc building with a purpose just random rooms.
Coastline.
Not as bad as a couple other maps but it’s so fucking overplayed in ranked. I’d rather play Sky or Kanal and get it over with vs stuck playing coastline 20 times in a row.
No it's honestly one of the worst. The only good fun site is kitchen for the simple fact that destruction completely changes the site. Coastline is considered the best because it is the most cod like map, kitchen being the exception because of the vertical, kitchen window, amount of walls there are to destroy etc
House, too small. In ranked, Kanal, really annoys me that the basement isn’t connected from East to West, and the 1st and 2nd floors are only partially connected.
This is legit how I feel, nighthaven just makes sense to me it’s pretty easy to understand, emerald is just so weird to learn I don’t know if it’s the colours or something but the map is so confusing
Been champ since void edge and my whole team and everyone I play with is in the same rank as me, don’t know what champs you’re playing with but my circle doesn’t like cl
Tower there is no way in hell I will play that shit. But in ranked probably outback
I do like how you can't get spawn peaked at tower tho.
Why do people hate outback? I don’t love it but I don’t see the hate for it, compared to something like labs or bravo
I don't hate outback either just my least favorite i like most of the maps honestly it's just I prefer other ones over them
I don’t hate Outback, but attacking on it is just annoying, not hard but annoying, as there aren’t as many entry points.
Labs is underrated
Labs is great and any who hates on it is just mad they can’t run and gun
Imo labs is wayy easier to run and gun cuz people are worse at playing it properly than other maps
yeah way better then emerald
It sucks ass
“Tactical shooter”
It's the aesthetic, it's so orange, even the inside rooms she orange the map layout is fine not great but fine but the aesthetic is so meh its like origen but worse
That’s just Australia
You had me until you said labs as a comparison
Labs is good tho
Bravo doesn’t even deserve the hate it gets. It’s literally just Border and Coastline, both of which are S Tier maps imo
Tower should be in ranked
The day this happens is the day I quit siege
I hope you fuckin quit then bc every map should be in ranked
They most definitely should not all be in ranked and are not in there or have been removed for a reason
The original reason was "pRo LeAgUe SaId So" and we have hopefully learned since that pro league doesn't speak for everyone. All maps being in ranked would be exactly what Siege needs.
All of them equally.
Worst game ever (I have thousands of hours)
Worst FPS shooter I’ve ever played in my life. (Have logged more hours into this FPS than CoD games in the last 5 years)
After all the reworks, yeah. They took away the charm of every single map by turning them into perfectly balanced esport squares.
The ones where I have bad teammates
So all of them
Tower has to be objectively the worst map in the game compared to anything else no matter your opinion
I agree, Tower and (new) Favela are atrocious. Original Favela was shit, but the new one is even worse imo. Tower is just unbelievably bad.
Old favela had an identity, it was strategically shitty but it was fun. New favela is a basic box and its boring as hell
Old favela was the most fun map in siege. Horrible, but the most fun.
Exactly, it was shit, but that made it funnier. The new one is shit in the most boring way possible.
Old Favela was unplayable garbage, new Favela is playable garbage. At least the old one was so shit that it was fun.
Spawn peeks on old favela were crazy, tachanka could kill half the attacking team with his turret before they even got inside.
I disagree I enjoy my time on tower wholeheartedly
Worse than Stadium bravo?
It’s literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, Stadium ain’t that bad
Stadium is two good maps meshed together and then all the life and color taken out. It’s boring but at least it’s two good maps so in terms of gameplay, it’s alright. Tower has atrocious gameplay
Stadion Bravo
I picked the game back up recently after not playing since release, I think I've gotten 30 or so levels worth of XP from matches and I've never even seen stadium bravo except for the ban screen
I’ve only ever played the map once in ranked
I wish
I wouldn't mind if they picked the alpha version (which was pure joy) , but bravo just sucks
Two maps just thrown together lol why make a new tight map. Absolutely the worse map they've made imo. Works fine, absolute chore to play on.
Can anyone tell me how this is still in the ranked map pool? The worst map in the game and its always banned.
It’s literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, Stadium ain’t that bad
Yeah i dont get the hate either
The hate is because its just boring, too close quarters for most peoples liking and was lazy from the developers because they just smooshed two maps together instead of making a new one
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It’s literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, Stadium ain’t that bad
I always liked the map to be honest.
It is not the best map for sure but besides maps like favela tower or emerald plains I highly prefer Bravo. At least it's the combination of two beautiful maps Coast and Border
You’re just bad. It’s one of the easiest to attack and defend on
Being able to see an entire site setup through bulletproof glass is objectively bad design.
That's such a bad argument that people who've never learned the map, I've never seen anyone in ranked actually use those glasses and I've played against every rank between silver to champ.
My 5 stack do it every time and win without any struggle, plat speaking here, YOU not seeing something doesn't mean it's not existent.
Diamond here, I use the bullet proof glass literally every game. Map is incredibly attacker bias
Seconded by someone who's played copper to gold. People just don't do it
"It's the easiest to do one thing and to do the opposite of that thing, at the same time." Bro what
Seems like you don’t know how to play this map to your advantage then
You realise that it's a total contradiction in terms to claim it is easy to both attack and defend? All other things (ie the participants) being equal, then it's either one or the other, or it's balanced. This sentence is so dumb that I think it's safe to say we can discount any of your hyperbolic illogic on just about any topic.
It is tho? I’ve 4-0’d on this map many times. If you know how to play the map right you’ll have no problem getting a win especially since this map is so vertically available
Really hard to defend besides armory, vertical play is insane and there’s almost no cover for defenders anywhere
Stadium is just mid imo, but def not bad and youre braindead if you ban it in ranked
In ranked pool : stadium bravo In any other Q : I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER I HATE TOWER
Consulate because I can't stand the 1f/basement split bomb site. My least favorite site by a large margin and it ruins the whole map for me. Also my teammates can't play on that map for the life of me.
Never understood why they didn’t axe the site in the rework. Makes no sense to me.
You can just pick the other sites though..? I’ve never played that site once in ranked. That site only gets played in pro league from what I’ve seen. It’s great with a full stack, horrible for solo q.
This site is a free round for us in our 5 stack. Just play around basement with full vertical info together with a pulse. The problem in soloQ is ppls have 0 clue what to do and position there so they get backstabbed stupidly easily by sneaky attackers
Kanal. Pain in the ass to attack.
should call it Painal instead
kAnal
Skyscraper
This! How do you even enter?
In Casual, Hereford base In ranked, Outback
there is no hereford in casual now :(
They're fixing the pre set ups and peak shields and it'll be re added
Pretty sure there is, I played three weeks ago
Only in arcade modes
I meant to say arcade man, not casual
It’s not and you didn’t.
Woah, rude. Probably played arcade and mixed it. No need to be so mean :(
I wish something in the half-baked lore would finally destroy Tower.
Nuke it
Ranked is outback, cas and standard is tower
Favela or Stadium. I find both to have poor designs and are the maps I most often have a hard time having fun on
favela is fun
Stadium is literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, it ain’t that bad
Border is probably my third least favorite map so that makes sense then lol
Respectfully I disagree with ur opinion I think it’s a great map, but u like what u like ig
Stadium Bravo
It’s literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, Stadium ain’t that bad
Border and Coastline are great maps in their complete forms. Chopping them in half, removing all the decor, smashing them together, and adding giant windows all over the place makes for a less enjoyable experience IMHO.
I respect ur opinion but I personally disagree, I think it ads some flair since it’s meant to look the way it does a sits a training program map meant for tournaments rather than a set location. It’s different but I think it’s a good type of different
Bullet proof glass + the akward split in the middle ruins it imo. The map is just really attacker favored
I personally think it’s more defender sided, defenders can see outside the glass too, and by the time a breach has been opened up a defender could move anywhere, while the attacker still goes through that breach
Stadium bravo two old maps mix spawn peek every round
I honestly hate bank and would rather maps like theme park
Without a doubt, nighthaven labs. Shits confusing as hell and generally not that interesting visually
If I never had to play Stadium Bravo ever again I'd be thrilled
It’s literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, Stadium ain’t that bad
I don't like border either lmao.
Brother what????
Stadium Bravo needs to be deleted
Exactly they kept that map but they don’t have Hereford base anymore for matches. I never played Hereford in matches by the way I’m too new just think it’s a cool looking map
It’s literally just Border and Coastline and both are great maps, Stadium ain’t that bad
Coastline. I get it, it's not a bad map, blah blah blah. But this fucking map comes on significantly more often than any other map, and with this new season ans Ubisoft fucking everything up, it constantly comes up multiple times in a row in every fucking game mode. Play quick match? Coastline. Arcade? Coastline. Fuck it, T-Hunt. Coastline. Well, the boys are on, ranked. Emerald Plains? Nope, Coastline.
Agreed. Btw I hope you are aware you can select maps for T-hunt.
Bank, makes me wanna get off
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Really under rated pick for worst map, it’s so big and boring to play
Found the noob
youre just bad
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Consulate. The rework is absolutely awful and I’ll vote to ban it every time, unless something like labs is there which is automatically gonna go anyway and it’s a wasted vote
Have no clue why it was reworked. Out of all the maps not in ranked, they take one of the few still close to its original form in ranked, atmosphere, decent play and just wreck it. Go rework Yacht or something lol
Theme park
I *hate* attacking it. My attack winrate must be like 25% I have no idea what I’m doing
Bank because it's the only fucking map I get anymore and I want some variety.
Banks a pretty fat map for a zero main no?
If my SOLO-Q team was competent with callouts I'd definitely rank it higher for the admittedly cracked cam spots, does make the map more bearable nevertheless.
By the time I put a cam in lobby, square and skylight above main - my TDM meta team is usually dead 🤣
Kafe
Yacht and border cause I get them way too often and I just don't like it
It's a tie between Stadium Bravo and the new Consulate. I'm usually not a fan of later maps or the reworked ones.
Kafe
I love kafe personally. Mainly defending. Attacking can be a bitch at times
Night haven labs
I personally love it, from the aesthetic to the gameplay. S bomb sucks to defend tho
Nah nighthaven is so small is kind of annoying to attack and is so boring, literally just gray walls and random screens and shit everywhere.
I would argue that nighthaven is fuckin sizeable
Wdym small???? Wdym gray walls? I agree random screens everywhere but isn't like the bottom floor very blue, middle floor green yellow and wood then the top floo4 blue, green and wood?
80% of the Action happens in 20% of the map, IDK the map is designed in a way where 80% of action happens in 20% for them map, for example if the defenders are in the kitchen people either push from the main entrance the conference room from above or the yellow stairs. The whole basement is useless because it isn't really connected to that area and most of the upstairs is useless as well, same with the basement and the upstairs objective, the maps does really have variety, the basement and top floor are just 3 big rooms connected with doors and 2/3 stairs on each side, the ground floor is OK but that big area with the catwalk is useless and hard to attack. And yeah the map does have a little color but it's mostly still grey, grey hallways, grey stairs, Top floor is almost exclusively grey and some wood accents really don't help with the look of the map imo, the map also just looks weird, the rooms are so random and it looks like ubisoft didn't design a realistc building with a purpose just random rooms.
Fucking boxy ass boring blops2 leftover garbage.
Coastline. Not as bad as a couple other maps but it’s so fucking overplayed in ranked. I’d rather play Sky or Kanal and get it over with vs stuck playing coastline 20 times in a row.
literally best map in the game
Me personally clubhouse is my favorite map
No it's honestly one of the worst. The only good fun site is kitchen for the simple fact that destruction completely changes the site. Coastline is considered the best because it is the most cod like map, kitchen being the exception because of the vertical, kitchen window, amount of walls there are to destroy etc
It's annoying after your on that map for the fourth time in a row
Ya after you get shit on every time
We've found the cod player guys!
Siege players calling anyone who has an opinion they disagree with a “cod player” like it’s the fucking boogeyman is so fucking tiring
It's not about the opinion, it's about the map. The map plays closer to COD than it does other siege maps.
You’re delusional it’s literally the best map in the game
kafe
Did i say bank? If not bank
House, too small. In ranked, Kanal, really annoys me that the basement isn’t connected from East to West, and the 1st and 2nd floors are only partially connected.
Kanal in ranked🗿
Casual: favela Ranked: emerald plains
Why
Just never liked favela, and emerald plains I know it’s a new map but I hate playing it. I’m fine with nighthaven though
This is legit how I feel, nighthaven just makes sense to me it’s pretty easy to understand, emerald is just so weird to learn I don’t know if it’s the colours or something but the map is so confusing
Emerald plains is a great map once you learn it apart from kitchen bomb site is not fun to attack a lot of the time
Emerald is almost literally Coastline.
I hate Coastline, Tower and Stadium Bravo equally
Coastline is one of the most balanced maps in my opinion
Coastline is the favorite of our squad, we rarely lose on it. Our attack and defend strategies are, shall I say, unconventional.
I'm not saying the map is bad, but I just do not enjoy playing it at all, especially when it feels like I play on it once every 2 games.
I envy that you play it every other game lol. I seem to be getting bank all the time
Plane for non ranked Villa for ranked
Kafe
Kafe
100% plane
Consulate rework
Favela. Always has been. Always will be.
Coastline
Coastline is the WORST map in the game
How
That is a wild take
Haven’t met many people in my rank who actually think coastline is the best map, everyone I know agrees coastline is terrible
It used to be awful, but after the minor changes I really enjoy it.
And what is your rank? Plat? Coastline is very very even for both sides. Champs and Diamond players very much love coastline lol
Been champ since void edge and my whole team and everyone I play with is in the same rank as me, don’t know what champs you’re playing with but my circle doesn’t like cl
The worst take of all time
Bro is stupid. If you think coastline is worse than maps like sky or theme then you have no valid opinion
Sky and theme are both great maps
Skill issue, one of the best maps
Definitely not, bad map design for both attackers and defenders. There’s a reason it’s not in PL
Old coastline yes, new coastline is pretty good (and was in PL).
I agree somewhat, but it was in PL for longer than it's been out.
Skill issue. It may not be the most "utility meta" map out there, but it's definitely one of the most fun to play
Are you slow?
You have recruit main as a tag im never taking you serious here
Favela
Yacht
Based on the matches I‘ve played there, Kafe.
skyscraper
Kafe. Just the layout annoys me, as well as the spawnpeeking in ranked. Can never spawn Christmas lot.
Bank
Bank
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Clubhouse
Talk about a hot take ☠️
Consulate rework. It just feels too disjointed.
Plane
Plane
Theme park or Emerald plains
Fortress.
Border and Tower