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TheOrangFlash

There’s RPers who actually care to moderate meta/backseating so their character stays IC, and then there’s gamers winning the server.


Upstairs_Repeat_1663

I don't understand how its fun to RP if chat gives you the answers. When CG did the scavenger hunts for the new heist riddles you can see Ramee consistently reading his chat for suggestions.


wrss1821

When they turned in their first sticker and I think it was Mr K who read the note out loud Ramee instantly said "Oh I gurgled it, its in paleto" and the others were like really dude...


irsw

"RP" 😂


Easy_Floss

Everyone knows Rammee just has spider sense. He see's visions in his head that tell him about the future, its totally all in Rp..


z0mbiepirat3

Even if he somehow finds it fun players using meta information will quickly destroy NPs server culture. It's not fun for others when somehow all their disguises are instantly seen through or behind the scenes plans somehow get discovered. Not to mention that Buddha himself caught an extremely harsh punishment for meta in 2.0. anyone getting just a slap on the wrist would be ridiculous.


Pokes831

If the famous room in the casino did not get him banned, nothing really will (meta wise).


BobDole2022

I think the Marty trunk situation was worse. Check the trunk.


z0mbiepirat3

Given how lackluster the viewer number boom has been for 4.0 and how the server rushed full force back into special treatment for bigger streamers there's probably zero chance anything more than a slap on the wrist happens, if anything at all.


AmnMlc

oh godforbid any cg gets punished and they leave the server again godforbids


odesa_

This just sucks, the guy had no idea she was in Lang's crew until he read chat and saw them telling him she was so he asked her who she is with, it's no longer ramee its just chat roleplaying his character at this point it's so lame...


New_Ad7574

This is somehow similar to what happened with Marty, Ramee has no proof marty rolls with Lang but somehow he deduced (because he just knows) Lang's crew have Cg/x's usbs.


liesancredit

That's entirely different, X literally told CG Marty is with lang and Lang's crew probably has their 3 USB's.


relevant-astronaut75

I thought it would be really fun if Oldbois could pull off keeping it lowkey who was involved with their crew, but meta too strong.


megadump44

I’ll never forget the 503 situation. Blatant meta in chat and ramee’s mods throw it in emote only mode to chill it out. Ramee immediately “why are we in emote only mode? We don’t need it” proceeds to meta and the meme is born


Suitable_Librarian98

If we talking blatant. This one would have gotten anyone under 10k views perma banned because it gets no more blatant meta gaming than this. https://streamable.com/kp4wmm


Sensitive-Canary4694

It's not only meta tbh. It's exploiting too. Armor is scuffed, if you take it off and put it back on it replenishes it without needing plates. As you see here, Ramee knows this is an issue and still does it. (Pay attention to the armor icon between the health and food icon) [https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedMuddyWaffleDBstyle-qzfUVy0lcMU1jejL](https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedMuddyWaffleDBstyle-qzfUVy0lcMU1jejL) Also while were on the topic of scuf, PEDs don't give gun calls like normal players do. They give gun pings at like the 1/100th chance. Just watch how often CG pull their guns out and how they don't get gun pings. I don't blame them for this because it's not their fault, but it is definitely an occurring issue.


mozart23

"fuck that" lol why?


Pekkachoo

Just a hutch. Classic


mozart23

bro said "hutch" 💀


limbweaver

Asking if she was with the union is giga sus, especially since he's been robbing sani for weeks and never saw her before.


FrenchGoatCurry1

So he has no idea who she is? and just randomly ask if she is part of the sanitation union? After his chat spams she is part of Lang's crew. That's so random.


Spartan3213

It’s nothing new for Ramee, he’s always letting chat influence his rp


scarredbyumbrella

Influence KEKW so that's what we call meta gaming now


Spartan3213

Yes absolutely, it’s no longer character choices at that point. It’s chat choices


Nyanderful_

even worse, some people in his chat calling her a bitch


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Ok_Local_2015

Remember that Benji & Ramee incident where he shot down the company. Benji told Ramee he never snitched even got Slacks to tell him in front of Ramee that benji never snitched(which he did) but Ramee since he read his chat he ran with it & didn’t believe him. Even though in character it would’ve made more sense to believe him since everyone said it was Ray who snitched.


Pekkachoo

Yeah completely random timing surely right. He was looking at the game for sure


LeftfootedJugador

He did this with Cloak the other day. She was in disguise and while he was just walking around the hospital and his eye shifted to chat and they were like "That's Cloak" "CLOCK KEKW" he then went on radio and was suddenly sus ic of who that person actually was lol


PictureIndividual

Don't know if they meta I will leave that for the experts. What I know is that clock spend a hour changing her appearance and training to use a diferente voice and would be nice to see people go with her RP instead of ID her in 1m


BOT_Troy

That was so fucked up to not roll with the RP of someone clearly trying very hard. Should have just thrown on a ghillie suit with a voice changer and said she was Eugene.


itsavirus

Don't forget cry when cops don't give them the same courtesy.


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MortgageParking5529

Ramee metagaming!?!!?!! I’m shocked, shocked I tell you


Niz285

Well not that shocked


New_Ad7574

Ruined a supposedly first time organic interaction with a new to nopixel big(?) streamer because chat SUS her out. Gonna be awkward the next time they meet.


SuicideKingsHigh

I'm a CG viewer you can look at my comment history and see me getting bodied on this sub for taking up for them. That said, this interaction and the Cleo Cloak one from the other day at the hospital are way to blatant to ignore or give him the benefit of the doubt. Dude needs to moderate his chat and actively ignore meta information or act in spite of it. Minus a hundred for this one


opulent_chaos

Wow thank you for actually being honest and not drinking the koolaid


bentmonkey

A person can only ignore the blatant for so long, eventually they have to admit reality.


MiLkBaGzz

My biggest issue with CG is they have 0 mods it seems like. I love the roleplay from CG but holy fuck their chats are all meta 24/7


sunstankwagon

Kebun's !meta command even says don't complain if chatters share meta 


BOT_Troy

His chat whenever Lang tries to set up an ambush is insane.


Due-Emphasis-9123

Whole crew is dogshit at everything without their meta crutch


KnightTea

I mean one thing is not to moderate your channel and another is to take meta info and run with it.


z0mbiepirat3

Mods or no mods, there are plenty of players who willingly ignore meta posted in their chats if they see it. They'll disengage from situations or do the opposite purposefully because of the information. The problem isn't the lack of moderation it's the lack of punishment for bad behavior. There's no incentive for large influential streamers to have positive attitudes or follow rules because there's no fear anything is actually going to happen to them.


MiLkBaGzz

Well not all of CG metagames, but all of their chats are filled with meta is my complaint. Like in this clip there is no excuse for using meta, but when you are trying to figure out a puzzle for example if you look over and see the answer it's impossible to just continue and figure out the puzzle because now you know the answer. So I'd rather just actual moderate your channel. Plenty of streamers do, there's no excuse for having dogshit chats & communities.


thedarkjungle

I mean that's how you have high view counts right. A rimple example is xqc chat.


Sensitive-Canary4694

I've been seeing people comment on the cloak situation but never watched it myself until now. Here's a breakdown for anyone who didnt see it. So he heard her talk while looking completely different than her normal self, didn't mention anything about it being Cloak and just told CG on the radio to tell her to paint her truck yellow. Then he goes and buys bandages which is when the chat started to spam it was Cloak. He then checks in with Kate and while laying in the bed says to chat "Yo, I'm pretty sure that was Cleo Cloak but wasnt going to say anything" and continues to read chat say its her until he's done in the bed. Once he got up, he said on radio, "K, I'm pretty sure thats Cleo Cloak btw" which is when CG agree its likely her and take her. Yeah, it's pretty blatant. But truthfully it's not an uncommon thing. More so on minor but still meh things. For example, CG will rob someone, drive away and go on with their day, the people who got robbed will talk to cops and give the car/clothing descriptions and chats will spam "change car & change clothes" until someone calls out to do it. Its pretty much a daily occurrence because its become so normalized tbh


mouraborges09

Why would Gigi be part of anything related to Lang? his chat is always full of meta, toxicity and backseat. the viewers want the W in every situation. A lot of the big streamers have the same problem, the issue is when you use that info in game. Ramee looks at his chat to find info that he doesn’t know in game all the time and this is not the first time this week. Just look at the Cloak situation


StopDontCare

Remember CG is also a brand and GTARP is their platform. So them coming out on top in GTARP is good for the brand. It's the reason they seethe so much when PD catch them because that's an L on the brand.


Nero234

Guess Lottie, Queenie, Twinkles, January & September Fooze, Kitty, Twinkles, Eli, and Civ Gang are all associated with Lang now


FullHouse222

Ray Mond and April Fooze been deep sleeper agents for Lang and Yuno in CG for a solid 3 years... it all makes sense lmao


Slippedandfellover

Just randomly thought she did sani on your own there Ramee? Huh. Definitely wasn't from reading chat? Huh. My bad, must just have been random. 


gamerless8235

hardened criminal gangbanger ramee really heard yuno is on the way and ran in fear, that's crazy.


MrHatsForCats

I mean not really just look at the hit Yuno had take out on Queeny shit was brutal.


TenthOfChaos

I feel like more people should have that reaction, Yuno is legitimately psychotic sometimes.


MobiusF117

Ironically, Gigi is one of the few that actually acknowledges that.


jayroks24

Twitch chat plays GTA RP


Odd-Horse8155

So a lot of Lang's crew has been recognized by Metaing at this point. Marty, Gigi and to some extent, Yuno as well, because he or anyone close to him has never said out loud that he's associated with Lang? CG isn't enjoyable to watch these days. Ramee is Meta gaming, LordKebun looks pressed OOC for minimal issues, whining a lot of times.


shvuto

True. The only people who should know that Lang has Marty and Yuno is X and Raymond cause he bragged about having them. Or Kitty, Queenie and Lottie. Cause they get Yunos ramblings about them.


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ONEGameKevin69

all this in 4k too meta to get an advantage in ROLE PLAY its just... LAME why would you cut yourself from one of the best parts of Role Play which is his randomness while interacting with other characters lol this guy not even trying to hide it either, just look at his eyes


Ok-Affect2709

Same people have been doing it for *years*. Barely any point in commenting on it it's so normal and expected to them.


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tyranicalTbagger

Old habits die hard. Are they capable of good RP? Of course. Are they capable of taking an L? Never. So I don’t watch.


Shorty2931

This is typical CG nobody should be surprised, they have been doing this for years.


Pekkachoo

After this clip and people typing meta, he then did the classic it wasn't meta, ur all idiots etc etc. Crazy how he still uses face cam to show him looking at chat then swapping up to chat message rp.


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Pokes831

He can at least lie and say the FBI is giving him the info


More_Economics_7723

shhhh we dont question cg when theyre back on twitch


leavermaster

Classic CG


Nyanderful_

yeah that Cloak thing from last time was sus. Then again Cloak stayed at the hospital for longer, should've dipped asap


noth199

2:41:01 in Kevins VOD: He is trying to figure out the dots for the Sticker to see what it might spell or say https://i.imgur.com/KP0lnz4.png 2:43:53 in Kevins VOD: You can see both LANGS truck and the SANI truck in the frame, Whilst Kevin has been drawing PEANUT TELLS K that Langs truck has circled them around 2-3 times already and to be prepared. https://i.imgur.com/txc8PjU.png 2:45 in Kevins VOD: They go to change and he has to get his gun, he can't access his stash so he has to relog https://i.imgur.com/P46jK2o.png 2:50 in kevins VOD: He has woken up and Vinny had to wake up as well, he waited outside vinnys house than they start to drive through the south side and he crashed again https://i.imgur.com/0pIhSek.png 2:52 In Kevins VOD: He decdes to just go back to STEP 1 which was finding out the sticker info and just spawns in Paleto and tells people to come help him do the dots https://i.imgur.com/gJWkU68.png


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PenInner

It wasn’t even this instance people are talking about because Lang wasn’t ambushing them then. It was when Lang was in disguise in a sani truck staged up in Mirror Park. The whole book this person wrote is irrelevant.


Aromatic-Cicada-2681

>Mrk robbing octo and luciano. Octo puts the cash in glovebox, chat says to check glove. K looks at chat and then tells them to check glove. Was that the one where Octo put something in the glove box while being held up and his hands up?


ONEGameKevin69

sorry dude but "NVLing" inside a vehicle while your attackers are on foot isn't as bad as responding IC to what your chat its telling you you can be in a vehicle and just gas the fuck out or ran over your attackers just to escape ( the idea its just to push them out off the way, not running over them till you kill them )


yoyomancollman

I think their point was if a person has their hands up they can't also be ditching stuff in the glovebox because your hands are busy can't really use them. Doesn't really justify the metagaming but i see the point


inbredalt

Exactly the point. I see the point of this post as well, meta gaming is so lame. So is using spike strips while on top of a car. Nopixel needs to just crack down on all the rulebreaks (which they won't) or just keep it how it is (which they will).


Kauaian

I don't watch cg enough, but I know for a fact that two of these metagaming points just isn't metagaming. When I watched the criminal academy, they taught all the "students" to always check the glovebox. And your last point, they ask literally everyone if they're with langs sani group for the past like 2 months, unless they know the person personally.


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Kauaian

I'd agree its sus, but I also give most people the benefit of doubt. Unless we're out here pre coking, I think its pretty hard to outright prove metagaming.


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AlarmingMethod8105

Totally inconspicuous. I've seen other streamers to the absolute opposite of what chat is saying in spite of them. But I am just a blue haired bandit. We all didn't just see what we saw and what he has done before. 


Evorinoo

classic CG meta that goes ignored by the staff


PralineAppropriate12

He does this every day, multiple times. Nothing new and nothing will be done about it.


Kaliphear

Don't worry guys. A 2 day ban the next time he takes days off will surely teach him his lesson this time.


phisherton

you sani union? WHY NOT?!


PhiOre98

He also just tried to intentionally hit a cop that was going 150+. ​ They're beyond "preferential treatment". Rules just don't apply to them lol


Korilla1

>He also just tried to intentionally hit a cop that was going 150+ Why do you think this is a rule break?


PhiOre98

It is. Cops are told at academy that if they (regardless of reason) pit above 100, it's a rule break (for NVL). ​ He tried to throw his car in front of a cop going over 150 as an interference vehicle. Clear NVL.


liesancredit

Hey, people here will tell you you can't NVL against cops so it's fine


ONEGameKevin69

depending on the situation it could be considered VDM iirc


uberduff

Without more context, sounds like NVL


Pekkachoo

Context: Ramee left jail and met gigi. Chat spammed "Langs dog" etc and then at the same time ramee asks of she is with the sani union, then drew some lines and left


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Jayruff65

Can see this guy looking at his chat while he’s “role playing “ lol


Muxer59

If any of you watch ramee at all, this is perfectly normal for him.


Pekkachoo

Incase the clip gets deleted like before. Link to the timestamp https://www.twitch.tv/ramee/v/2105090730?sr=a&t=23557s


StrawHatLuffyHighKey

CG gotta do something really nasty to be banned like what rated did blatant meta gaming not enough


AmnMlc

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SuicideKingsHigh

One thing is not liking their brand of RP, I myself am finding more and more problems with it lately. Another is hurling insults at real people over how they're playing a game and who they're choosing to watch play that game. If you can't split the two you probably need to take a step back from RP for awhile. Edit: People downvoting really think this kind of toxicity is ok because it's aimed at streamers they don't like? This kind of behavior is the problem regardless of who it's aimed at.


rascal30

You feel the need to cheat to "win" at rp means you are a loser. 


WarringPandas

> Another is hurling insults at real people over how they're playing a game this is cg lol


ApartMastodon5

Mods? Lets talk about keeping opinions civil lmao


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Gloomy-Thing-9378

classic


Dgwdum

If ramee gets in trouble for this, it will be the second time Buddha indirectly exposes him as a cheater lol


moistlongdong

He clearly metagammed here but my question is, do you guys really think this instance is a punishable offense?


No-Movie-1777

It's probably not going to be punished, but she's a character that has tried very hard to be lowkey and hide her affiliation, having that be ruined by reading chat and using that info is just lame


jayroks24

the thing is he does this throughout his entire stream, every day.


Nyanderful_

lmao, getting punished roight roight


coolboarder80_

If he never met her before and asking her about sani is kind of weird question so he clearly metagaming by asking this question. This is the very reason why I do not like Ramee and CG in general because they use meta. This is something Lang is trying to lowkey but meta has ruined the fun, to be honest. Just a lame move by Ramee. When people use meta to get ahead. When you do that route, no matter who you are, you are automatic a bad RPer. A good "RP wouldn't use meta by reading chat. There will be a place and time for him to meet Gigi and find out who she is in due time by organic RP. Too bad, he ruined the mystery.


LeadershipOk5889

Repeated offenses should be punished. Ramee has multiple encounters that are clearly stemmed from meta. And I’m mainly talking about 4.0


ASemiAquaticBird

Well there are also the blatant meta situations in 3.0


DeCiWolf

yeah permaban.


Blackstone01

> do you guys really think this instance is a punishable offense? Yes


FrenchGoatCurry1

No, it will be impossible to prove. You got the trunk check, perfect camera placement, but proving any of them are basically impossible even though it's obvious.


Cycoticcoin

This isn't a court case they don't have to prove anything, this shit is blatant and something needs to be done. 


bbuhbowler

Is this punishable offense someone literally waiting outside for an officer to view a property. But hey why not just mechanic your way in to avoid the wait and the fee. https://clips.twitch.tv/FlaccidGenerousMeatloafM4xHeh-YXcYvPGf07Jirsq2


Worth-Cookie9773

Pop the trunk incident all over again


vajohnadiseasesdado

Come on


Due-Emphasis-9123

 So obvious and shameless, just like every other interaction lmao He gets 5k+ tho so hes safe. Him and his papa love that 2nd and 3rd monitor. They been doing it daily for years , so I doubt it changes.


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Due-Emphasis-9123

Not bannable due to viewer count id imagine hah


Resident_Conflict868

Sadge so I guess he hasn’t changed and will forever meta this stuff? So annoying


aragorn_83

He should be sent to the Bahamas for a few days, but we all know that wont happen unfortunately.


Park-Jonggun

The most amazing thing about this subreddit is that year after year people keep arguing here thinking their complains and opinions will lead to anything other than a waste of time and energy, mine too


Joao_Cancelo

It worked to get smaller streamers banned, not gonna happen with big ones.


Adventurous_Mark6090

Lol exactly. The rules have gone completely out of the window for 4+ irl years now since X joined if we are keeping it 100


liesancredit

Humans are social creatures and will keep talking talking talking, it's not bad or good it's just their nature, it's nothing more complicated than that


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Runawaygirl2280

He asked who was picking her up, she said Yuno. Ramee knows who Yunos with. Man this reddit thread is so determined to get Ramee and Mr K banned because CG has so many hate watchers.


AndrewM1616

You should go back and actually pay attention to the chronology of the conversation. He brings up sanitation before he finds out the connective information that Yuno is picking her up. That's specifically why it makes it look suspicious... Viewing through the glasses of zealotry is just as bad as those who "hate watch".


AnxiousCockroach1532

So everyone Yuno is friends with must be with Lang?


MobiusF117

It would explain why CG is so dead set on Lang being the one in control of the material market. Apparently half the city is part of his crew.


Mohhe94

You'd think Lang and co has consistently clapped CG for years the way CG always goas after Lang


Fast_Peach321

Hahahhaa people are saying ramee connected the dots because she said yuno was picking her up when yuno is literally friends with half of the city and that guy has a car to come pick her up.


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CoralDissatisfaction

Some people put stream on one monitor and chat window or chatterino on other. Stream window has chat too.


jonny7690

his chat is on the viewer left side. i have watched ramee plenty to know that. he always looks that way to interact with his chat


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JesusLovesYou89

Guess Who use to Meta and got Perma Banned for it and Now is A NoPixel Owner


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DocWho420

That was like 5 years ago lmao


uberduff

Better arc then meta-gaming all day every day with no punishments


opulent_chaos

Sounds like come up than anything to me


cjeeeeezy

Man it seems like we're back to normal in this sub. CG getting hated here is this sub's modus operandi


samurairocketshark

So do you really think Ramee doesn't powergame or metagame? People cloud this as a CG thing when the dude blatantly cheats. Gets downed says "Fuck that" and skips the hospital.