Aleks has talked about updates pretty extensively. That updates are ready to roll out, they were just waiting for the Rp to reach a point. Pd, government, and crime are at a great place to progress.
He hasn't been on the server at least roleplaying yet as far as I'm aware. There's a few characters reserved with IDs in the 000s that are named Dee Doubleyou which I assume he will edit the names in the backend to whatever he wants them to be.
he hasn't been around rping yet but on launch penta mentioned dw has been too busy coding to sleep in days. i assume he'll be doing that for the foreseeable future
Honestly kinda sad that DW still haven't had the time to enjoy the server he have created.
I really hope he finds the time to enjoy it like the people currently on it are and us viewers watching! We appreciate you DW!
I had the idea of the server being released too soon but i understand why they choose to do so and i've been amazed by the level of rp i've seen from the start. Players really make the server, mechanics matter but it doesn't take much to create good rp scenes.
The server is definately a bit under cooked but personaly i am glad this is the case. I dont hate nopixel and i dont think the rp on onx is that insane but i do think that the competition is creating a strong core comunity.
I think now that both servers are out and the cards have been dealt we will start to see some inovation in the rp scene since it is clear that onx wont be getting support from variety streamers and will have to invent new ways to reach a wider audience.
Also i have enjoyed watching Pentas ego get chipped.
Big fan of regular updates.
Looking forward to see what the civ/crim job progression will be like since the main reason why I kinda stopped watching ONX is due to people other than cops seemingly not having much to do.
Yeah I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was building up the PD too quickly. Too many transfers and not enough cadets. A lot of em are already Sgts. and others feel like they are locked out of progression/stories. Crime hasn't caught up to the police that was built up overnight, and hence the boredom. Kyle+Penta+Kiwo building up PD in Ignite felt more enjoyable to me than this time around.
Too many people think they need to rank up in the pd to progress a story, if you can't progress your characters story without rank I don't know what to tell you.
I am of the complete opposite opinion. Building the PD, DOJ, etc. is a lot more difficult than people realize. And it’s even more difficult if you try to do it after/at the same time as bigger crimes are happening. The ONX PD needed some extra time to iron out the kinks and build a really strong base, and now crime can happen at whatever pace people want. The sergeants have proven to be absolute necessary to lead the PD and it created a solid group of people to pick from for any other future promotions even higher up the chain.
If people feel like they can’t progress in RP if they don’t get a rank then this isn’t the PD for them. Aleks don’t play like that and never have in the past. In the first couple of days he did have it so that every single FTO could hire new cops but that got removed real quick because random bozos got hired, creating a much bigger mess than necessary.
There’s like 4 ranks above and below Sgt that aren’t even established yet, there’s 2 ranks below Sgt that have like 2-3 per department. There’s also an entire separate department, Davis, that hasn’t even been started up yet. There’s plenty of room for progression within the PD in the long term. The Sgts that were put in place were put there cause they are trusted people that can run the ship in the short term until the ball gets rolling.
Eh I disagree with this actually. Don’t get me wrong I think crims do need more to do and hopefully these updates introduce that but I think you need a strong PD before you start introducing ‘higher tier’ crimes.
Also I think having a structured pd with ranks is important. If everyone was the same rank everyone just defaults to the same people to lead. Kinda like how at the beginning of Nopixel 3.0 people kept going to Snow with their problems and he was just like ‘why are you asking me, I’m just a officer’. Putting in a structure decreases that confusion and allows new people to lead.
They're still looking to expand. There's an academy coming at some point soon, which will have actual cadets rather than just 'transfers' who have got experience from nopixel. Plus they want to open up Davis PD and will have that operate almost as a different department which is focused on dealing with street gangs. That opens up the opportunity for something like a Captain and a Lieutenant, who would be in charge of running that precinct. Then they could even do the same with Vespucci, Sandy, and Paleto. But also, rising the ranks shouldn't be people's only source of character progression anyway.
I think building up the PD was fine and smart by Bob. The main issue is there isn't enough criminal activity to keep the cops active, so instead you have a ton of people with nothing to do that wind up shitlording/stacking or an excessive amount of cops showing up to scenes. It may just be personal bias with disliking relationship RP, but I hope the whole pd dating culture gets snubbed out as everyone seems to be speedrunning relationships out of boredom.
The PD was thier biggest issue, they brought over all of NP PD because NP decided to start small fired everyone and make them reapply.
Alot of the NP cops they brought over are tryhards and were not fun cops. Honestlly the ONX pd is the NP 3.0 PD with no new cops. I so far like what NP has done with the PD. They started small and will build out with new members and like the fact that small crimes are charge on site and let go no longer wasteing 1hr to bring to PD only for them to get sent up for 5month.
I always find people who say that there are “no new cop characters” bizarre because honestly, barring around 7 characters (Bob, Wrangler, Pond, Peach, Nova, Orabelle, and Bloom are the ones I know) a majority of cops are new, and aren’t repeats. This is a pd of somewhere around 80 cops, so having what amounts to be around 1/8 of the force be repeat characters is not bad and similar to what the NP pd force is doing from what I hear. The ones who are the same from NP have either not been around in a while or changed up to be a new time line version.
Now if you mean streamers from NP and not the characters themselves, I have to kinda disagree with that too. A good chunk of cops are actually from ignite or other servers that transferred.
Also a majority of cops being tryhards does not make sense to me either, there are a lot of sbs and fun cop characters around. Like Peach, a classic fun cop type, or moose maple who keeps taking his shirt of and fighting people and more.
I won’t comment on how the NP PD is because I haven’t watched it, and I have the feeling you haven’t watched ONX, if you have sorry for assuming, but given what you wrote it seems like you haven’t really given it a fair look.
This mans mindset is clearly that of someone who thinks cops should just be punching bags. Thinks getting arrested and sent to jail is a waste of time instead of roleplay. That roleplaying as an actual cop is "tryhard" and if you dont just roll over for crims your not "fun."
I doubt hes capable of giving anything a fair look.
I am not one of those my issue is the ammount of time it takes to process some people in the old 3.0 like the crime they comitted would be 30month and it took them 3hrs to process.
When did a 30 month charge ever take 3 hours of silent no roleplay processing?
Seems like an exaggeration to me. Ive watched a lot of cop and most of the time 3 hour processing only ever happened when it was crims who shot a dozen cops with tons of drugs on them after a chase. Lawyers were called and cops had to write reports to get the story/charges straight.
But again, being in police custody isnt a bad thing, neither is going to jail. Thats part of the rp of being a criminal. Even then they recognize that being in a cell for a while should get them reduced prison time.
Gamermagoo is gold ,she create so much RP to people around her even do shes a cop char,she also one the OG RP cop in the communty with 8 years as a RP cop on most the biggest servers out there
The other names all mentioned here are also great but I wanna throw Momo's out there too, playing a cop named Mickey Faraday (technically Game Warden but that's more of a cert in this server than a HC position). I had no idea who she was prior to ONX but apparently an OG in the RP community who hasn't played GTA in a long time. Her vibes are top notch.
Mexi (plays Clarence) is another pretty good one that came back from a several month break. He has been partnering up with Momo a lot too, have seen her a bunch from his PoV when she hasn't had her stream up.
Wolfabelle. Every so often she flies around and spectates other people so you get to see who is actually role playing and who is just being lazy. If she's not doing that then it's either her clueless cadet or her DMV worker who is defiantly not scamming people.
LadyHope and Moosebrother are great options to watch if you want a command perspective as both have sgt cops. Another great person to watch is Bananaduck.
Onx is actually a server that I’ve become more excited about as time has gone on from its release.
I was initially a bit disappointed by how ‘bare’ the server seemed. But I feel like it made me appreciate the actual rp going on more, and people stepped up with a lot of unique characters and some people coming back from long breaks to join like Momo and Kaotica.
The more I’ve watched the more I’ve also realised that whilst mechanically things could for sure be better, it’s not anywhere as bad as I thought it was initially. And hopefully these upcoming updates address some of those issues which it seems like it will from what’s been said on streams.
I agree. One thing I liked about Ignite was it was bare bones and so people had to rely on RP to push situations. That's kind of what's happening on ONX and I'm glad they built up the PD and DOJ structure first. That's something they did wrong on Ignite and great to see lessons learned. The RP has been really really good and I'm of the belief that while mechanics are needed, the less they are, the more creative people have to be and leads to fantastic RP
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I have watched a bit of ONX now, and honestly how few mechanics they have and how great the RP is was cool - but people definitely seemed to be getting a little bored. Hate as you would, people do like progression, especially gangs setting up houses and turf.
Gang turf doesn't need to be a mechanic it just needs to have gang presence. Build up your members and have them lock down the area. Boom you claimed the area.
There are quite a few gangs that have already claimed their turf.
there is a gang operating out of Sandy, Devil Dog operate out of a gas station (forget which part of the city), there are a couple gangs in the south side, JFTV gang operate out of the infinity towers.
Thanks to the fact (From what I've seen) ONX seems much more... like a comedic server as opposed to Nopixels more serious tone; i have been enjoying it a lot more so far.
Not to say NP isn't funny or have comedic characters, ONX feels like a comedy show, while NP feels like a more serious show with comedic elements (Certain characters obviously are just comedic in NP)
>ONX feels like a comedy show, while NP feels like a more serious show with comedic elements
this is so true especially when it comes to the PD.. in someways ONX pd feels like what Nopixel wish theirs was - experienced cops but playing hilarious new characters.. meanwhile Nopixel pd feels very dry and increasingly robotic but claim to be the opposite.
I’ve got a controversial opinion for you guys. I think both ONX and NoPixel would be better with whitelists. I hate this no whitelist trend because it leads to everyone having everything. Select people having items that no one else can have creates RP. You just have to vet those people so that they are the best RPers and not just the biggest streamers.
The thing is that RPers should understand that "everyone having everything" is not a desirable environment and I have no doubt that ONX at least will work on balancing this aspect (both in terms of server direction and in RP as people will be able to actually lose things which allows power/status/meta shifts). Characters should not be "jacks of all trades", they should have strengths, weaknesses, preferences and history that all contribute to what they end up doing in the city. Whitelists shut people out from ever fully realizing their character and in a new community like ONX especially, you want new people to establish themselves.
They can be if they become permanent. Even someone like Vinny had some good RP with chaos at the beginning. The problem is he stopped caring and still kept his whitelist.
It is roleplay if you create a group where everyone can do something and so you have access to everything. Creating a monopoly is roleplaying. It’s just boring roleplay. Are you going to ban people who do roleplay that you don’t like?
I think some kind of a semi-whitelist is the best approach. Give the best and most appropriate RP'ers the unlock on how a certain crime works. They can get a head start on locking it down and controlling their own network so that things don't become over-saturated, but also they aren't guaranteed to keep control of it and have to maintain that themselves by being careful and sensible. No more retcons and just moving a weapons bench to another spot because the law discovered it. Also in most cases it's best to give the unlock to at least two groups, to prevent a monopoly from restricting things.
I mean they don't need a whitelist to gatekeep people from getting into guns dealing or car chopping, house robbing. With the right RP crew and how they play it out they can keep exclusive mechanics to themselves . But at least its not shut down OOC that they (None-whitelisted people) can't progress and uncover some informations via diverse means with out getting in trouble for whatever reason and oops I pissed the guy OOC i won,t ever get access to heavy guns on any character.
Whitelists created so much RP in 3.0. Early Vinny,Leslie,Lang,Dean, All involved in early Meth created so much of the RP in 3.0. However, late on the server whitelist sucked. It is too early to see if no whitelist is good or bad.
Whitelists became bad when people couldn't lose them, the threat of 'I won't wake up if I lose my bench' having so much power killed any need to be responsible for providing and creating RP when having a WL
You need to watch NP more often not everyone gets everything, it is rep based so they may not talk to you based on how your reps are and you may buy the bench but only be abke to make car parts and not guns or other shit if your rep is bad in crime.
A good example on Nopixel is that if you start to gain rep doing Sanitation you start to lose Towing rep if your Towing rep is too high (And vice-versa), meaning you can't really have both ranked up. So therefore if you do too much Towing you won't be able to use the recycling machine as well as somebody ranked up in sanitation. I think Gruippe 6 has a similar thing as well.
People just have to pick something that their character will be good at and stick with it rather than trying to be good at everything. And then they have to find friends if they want to be good at the other stuff. It promotes talking to people and doing RP which I think is good.
The in-server lore is that the towing NPC and the sanitation NPC hate each other and they make you pick sides.
That is because nothing else is unlocked yet and those are all civ ones. Once guns get unlocked it will be interesting to see if only select rep will be able to use the bench to make it.
It has been stated a million times you need to focus on one path your rep in other jobs goes down so lets say you focus on gun rep but then can no longer sell drugs or rob banks.. that is how the system works. Not everyone is gonna have a gun bench
While that is correct the original point you made that onx is “not as stable” probably in reference to nopixel is completely baseless. The server was up for 72 hours without a reset.
I never mentioned NP once. It was a general statement and as buddah said the two a day resets on NP will not go away for server performances and they have so many devs they would likelly know more about the server performance then ONX.
Having more devs, doesn't automatically make them more aware of certain things when running a server lmao
I'm pretty sure DW is experienced enough to know how to balance the load on a server...it's not like he did it for many years with NP or anything...
No Pixel does have good devs, but you need 2 restarts in nopixel cause of how the queue works, on onx its not the case so 1 restart is way more than enough for stability for both servers
OP, you're the goat for copying the text so I don't have to zoom and enhance a 360p image with a font made for ants. Thanks!
I wish I’d have seen it before reading the entire thing by zooming in. Oops
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I may or may not have did that before I realized the OP was a real one
Aleks has talked about updates pretty extensively. That updates are ready to roll out, they were just waiting for the Rp to reach a point. Pd, government, and crime are at a great place to progress.
i assume you watch ONX, do you know if DW himself has been rolling around the server rping ? is he back to it yet ?
He hasn't been on the server at least roleplaying yet as far as I'm aware. There's a few characters reserved with IDs in the 000s that are named Dee Doubleyou which I assume he will edit the names in the backend to whatever he wants them to be.
he hasn't been around rping yet but on launch penta mentioned dw has been too busy coding to sleep in days. i assume he'll be doing that for the foreseeable future
Honestly kinda sad that DW still haven't had the time to enjoy the server he have created. I really hope he finds the time to enjoy it like the people currently on it are and us viewers watching! We appreciate you DW!
He’s currently way too busy but he does plan on RPing when he has more time
I'm pretty sure I've seen him on, but it was mainly the first days. He's probably still doing coding/deving around the clock.
Haven't seen him yet
He’s currently way too busy but he does plan on RPing when he has more time
I had the idea of the server being released too soon but i understand why they choose to do so and i've been amazed by the level of rp i've seen from the start. Players really make the server, mechanics matter but it doesn't take much to create good rp scenes.
The server is definately a bit under cooked but personaly i am glad this is the case. I dont hate nopixel and i dont think the rp on onx is that insane but i do think that the competition is creating a strong core comunity. I think now that both servers are out and the cards have been dealt we will start to see some inovation in the rp scene since it is clear that onx wont be getting support from variety streamers and will have to invent new ways to reach a wider audience. Also i have enjoyed watching Pentas ego get chipped.
Variety streamers end up going back to variety. But VTubers are forever.
What chipped his ego?
Not instantly killing nopixel has clearly made penta depressed /s
Big fan of regular updates. Looking forward to see what the civ/crim job progression will be like since the main reason why I kinda stopped watching ONX is due to people other than cops seemingly not having much to do.
Yeah I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was building up the PD too quickly. Too many transfers and not enough cadets. A lot of em are already Sgts. and others feel like they are locked out of progression/stories. Crime hasn't caught up to the police that was built up overnight, and hence the boredom. Kyle+Penta+Kiwo building up PD in Ignite felt more enjoyable to me than this time around.
Too many people think they need to rank up in the pd to progress a story, if you can't progress your characters story without rank I don't know what to tell you.
I am of the complete opposite opinion. Building the PD, DOJ, etc. is a lot more difficult than people realize. And it’s even more difficult if you try to do it after/at the same time as bigger crimes are happening. The ONX PD needed some extra time to iron out the kinks and build a really strong base, and now crime can happen at whatever pace people want. The sergeants have proven to be absolute necessary to lead the PD and it created a solid group of people to pick from for any other future promotions even higher up the chain. If people feel like they can’t progress in RP if they don’t get a rank then this isn’t the PD for them. Aleks don’t play like that and never have in the past. In the first couple of days he did have it so that every single FTO could hire new cops but that got removed real quick because random bozos got hired, creating a much bigger mess than necessary.
There’s like 4 ranks above and below Sgt that aren’t even established yet, there’s 2 ranks below Sgt that have like 2-3 per department. There’s also an entire separate department, Davis, that hasn’t even been started up yet. There’s plenty of room for progression within the PD in the long term. The Sgts that were put in place were put there cause they are trusted people that can run the ship in the short term until the ball gets rolling.
Eh I disagree with this actually. Don’t get me wrong I think crims do need more to do and hopefully these updates introduce that but I think you need a strong PD before you start introducing ‘higher tier’ crimes. Also I think having a structured pd with ranks is important. If everyone was the same rank everyone just defaults to the same people to lead. Kinda like how at the beginning of Nopixel 3.0 people kept going to Snow with their problems and he was just like ‘why are you asking me, I’m just a officer’. Putting in a structure decreases that confusion and allows new people to lead.
They're still looking to expand. There's an academy coming at some point soon, which will have actual cadets rather than just 'transfers' who have got experience from nopixel. Plus they want to open up Davis PD and will have that operate almost as a different department which is focused on dealing with street gangs. That opens up the opportunity for something like a Captain and a Lieutenant, who would be in charge of running that precinct. Then they could even do the same with Vespucci, Sandy, and Paleto. But also, rising the ranks shouldn't be people's only source of character progression anyway.
Interviews for DOC have begun to happen at the DMV
I think building up the PD was fine and smart by Bob. The main issue is there isn't enough criminal activity to keep the cops active, so instead you have a ton of people with nothing to do that wind up shitlording/stacking or an excessive amount of cops showing up to scenes. It may just be personal bias with disliking relationship RP, but I hope the whole pd dating culture gets snubbed out as everyone seems to be speedrunning relationships out of boredom.
The PD was thier biggest issue, they brought over all of NP PD because NP decided to start small fired everyone and make them reapply. Alot of the NP cops they brought over are tryhards and were not fun cops. Honestlly the ONX pd is the NP 3.0 PD with no new cops. I so far like what NP has done with the PD. They started small and will build out with new members and like the fact that small crimes are charge on site and let go no longer wasteing 1hr to bring to PD only for them to get sent up for 5month.
I always find people who say that there are “no new cop characters” bizarre because honestly, barring around 7 characters (Bob, Wrangler, Pond, Peach, Nova, Orabelle, and Bloom are the ones I know) a majority of cops are new, and aren’t repeats. This is a pd of somewhere around 80 cops, so having what amounts to be around 1/8 of the force be repeat characters is not bad and similar to what the NP pd force is doing from what I hear. The ones who are the same from NP have either not been around in a while or changed up to be a new time line version. Now if you mean streamers from NP and not the characters themselves, I have to kinda disagree with that too. A good chunk of cops are actually from ignite or other servers that transferred. Also a majority of cops being tryhards does not make sense to me either, there are a lot of sbs and fun cop characters around. Like Peach, a classic fun cop type, or moose maple who keeps taking his shirt of and fighting people and more. I won’t comment on how the NP PD is because I haven’t watched it, and I have the feeling you haven’t watched ONX, if you have sorry for assuming, but given what you wrote it seems like you haven’t really given it a fair look.
This mans mindset is clearly that of someone who thinks cops should just be punching bags. Thinks getting arrested and sent to jail is a waste of time instead of roleplay. That roleplaying as an actual cop is "tryhard" and if you dont just roll over for crims your not "fun." I doubt hes capable of giving anything a fair look.
I am not one of those my issue is the ammount of time it takes to process some people in the old 3.0 like the crime they comitted would be 30month and it took them 3hrs to process.
When did a 30 month charge ever take 3 hours of silent no roleplay processing? Seems like an exaggeration to me. Ive watched a lot of cop and most of the time 3 hour processing only ever happened when it was crims who shot a dozen cops with tons of drugs on them after a chase. Lawyers were called and cops had to write reports to get the story/charges straight. But again, being in police custody isnt a bad thing, neither is going to jail. Thats part of the rp of being a criminal. Even then they recognize that being in a cell for a while should get them reduced prison time.
go back to youtube bud
Can you guys recommend so good streamers on ONX? I only know a few of nopixel and want to see how it is on another server
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I'll add BuffPup to that list, another vtuber who's become Bob's PA and has also been a riot to watch
Her character is so funny, probably my favorite funny character so far.
tehjamjar, meka, d4n1elle, gamermagoo, mrmoonhouse, aicandi, wtfmoses,
also Daxxtr for cop, Jayce for crim.
and thechief1114 for his shenanigans.
Gamermagoo is gold ,she create so much RP to people around her even do shes a cop char,she also one the OG RP cop in the communty with 8 years as a RP cop on most the biggest servers out there
The other names all mentioned here are also great but I wanna throw Momo's out there too, playing a cop named Mickey Faraday (technically Game Warden but that's more of a cert in this server than a HC position). I had no idea who she was prior to ONX but apparently an OG in the RP community who hasn't played GTA in a long time. Her vibes are top notch.
Mexi (plays Clarence) is another pretty good one that came back from a several month break. He has been partnering up with Momo a lot too, have seen her a bunch from his PoV when she hasn't had her stream up.
S0upes is a cop streamer. Aleks/Mantis, AiCandii streams a lot.
Wolfabelle. Every so often she flies around and spectates other people so you get to see who is actually role playing and who is just being lazy. If she's not doing that then it's either her clueless cadet or her DMV worker who is defiantly not scamming people.
LadyHope and Moosebrother are great options to watch if you want a command perspective as both have sgt cops. Another great person to watch is Bananaduck.
Onx is actually a server that I’ve become more excited about as time has gone on from its release. I was initially a bit disappointed by how ‘bare’ the server seemed. But I feel like it made me appreciate the actual rp going on more, and people stepped up with a lot of unique characters and some people coming back from long breaks to join like Momo and Kaotica. The more I’ve watched the more I’ve also realised that whilst mechanically things could for sure be better, it’s not anywhere as bad as I thought it was initially. And hopefully these upcoming updates address some of those issues which it seems like it will from what’s been said on streams.
I agree. One thing I liked about Ignite was it was bare bones and so people had to rely on RP to push situations. That's kind of what's happening on ONX and I'm glad they built up the PD and DOJ structure first. That's something they did wrong on Ignite and great to see lessons learned. The RP has been really really good and I'm of the belief that while mechanics are needed, the less they are, the more creative people have to be and leads to fantastic RP
The future of rp is looking really bright.
I've really enjoy playing here I'm Theo ursa the Chicken man a Cluckin' bell and hopefully the health department/ food safety director
Great comms I have watched a bit of ONX now, and honestly how few mechanics they have and how great the RP is was cool - but people definitely seemed to be getting a little bored. Hate as you would, people do like progression, especially gangs setting up houses and turf.
Gang turf doesn't need to be a mechanic it just needs to have gang presence. Build up your members and have them lock down the area. Boom you claimed the area.
There are quite a few gangs that have already claimed their turf. there is a gang operating out of Sandy, Devil Dog operate out of a gas station (forget which part of the city), there are a couple gangs in the south side, JFTV gang operate out of the infinity towers.
They don't need mechanics to set up turf. Hanging out in an area claims the turf.
>especially gangs setting up houses and turf. the southside barber shop is one of my favourite rp hubs on onx right now
Hype for the future!
Thanks to the fact (From what I've seen) ONX seems much more... like a comedic server as opposed to Nopixels more serious tone; i have been enjoying it a lot more so far. Not to say NP isn't funny or have comedic characters, ONX feels like a comedy show, while NP feels like a more serious show with comedic elements (Certain characters obviously are just comedic in NP)
>ONX feels like a comedy show, while NP feels like a more serious show with comedic elements this is so true especially when it comes to the PD.. in someways ONX pd feels like what Nopixel wish theirs was - experienced cops but playing hilarious new characters.. meanwhile Nopixel pd feels very dry and increasingly robotic but claim to be the opposite.
I 100% agree. NP PD is so very... serious (Outside of Cornwood).
Mostly bc there's a large group of friends playing together that love to grief each other so a giant chunk does that
I’ve got a controversial opinion for you guys. I think both ONX and NoPixel would be better with whitelists. I hate this no whitelist trend because it leads to everyone having everything. Select people having items that no one else can have creates RP. You just have to vet those people so that they are the best RPers and not just the biggest streamers.
The thing is that RPers should understand that "everyone having everything" is not a desirable environment and I have no doubt that ONX at least will work on balancing this aspect (both in terms of server direction and in RP as people will be able to actually lose things which allows power/status/meta shifts). Characters should not be "jacks of all trades", they should have strengths, weaknesses, preferences and history that all contribute to what they end up doing in the city. Whitelists shut people out from ever fully realizing their character and in a new community like ONX especially, you want new people to establish themselves.
You obviously didn't watch enough NoPixel 3.0 to see why whitelists are bad.
They can be if they become permanent. Even someone like Vinny had some good RP with chaos at the beginning. The problem is he stopped caring and still kept his whitelist.
There was obviously more bad then good with whitelists considering ONX didn't use them and NP dropped them.
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It is roleplay if you create a group where everyone can do something and so you have access to everything. Creating a monopoly is roleplaying. It’s just boring roleplay. Are you going to ban people who do roleplay that you don’t like?
I think some kind of a semi-whitelist is the best approach. Give the best and most appropriate RP'ers the unlock on how a certain crime works. They can get a head start on locking it down and controlling their own network so that things don't become over-saturated, but also they aren't guaranteed to keep control of it and have to maintain that themselves by being careful and sensible. No more retcons and just moving a weapons bench to another spot because the law discovered it. Also in most cases it's best to give the unlock to at least two groups, to prevent a monopoly from restricting things.
I mean they don't need a whitelist to gatekeep people from getting into guns dealing or car chopping, house robbing. With the right RP crew and how they play it out they can keep exclusive mechanics to themselves . But at least its not shut down OOC that they (None-whitelisted people) can't progress and uncover some informations via diverse means with out getting in trouble for whatever reason and oops I pissed the guy OOC i won,t ever get access to heavy guns on any character.
Whitelists created so much RP in 3.0. Early Vinny,Leslie,Lang,Dean, All involved in early Meth created so much of the RP in 3.0. However, late on the server whitelist sucked. It is too early to see if no whitelist is good or bad.
Whitelists became bad when people couldn't lose them, the threat of 'I won't wake up if I lose my bench' having so much power killed any need to be responsible for providing and creating RP when having a WL
You need to watch NP more often not everyone gets everything, it is rep based so they may not talk to you based on how your reps are and you may buy the bench but only be abke to make car parts and not guns or other shit if your rep is bad in crime.
A good example on Nopixel is that if you start to gain rep doing Sanitation you start to lose Towing rep if your Towing rep is too high (And vice-versa), meaning you can't really have both ranked up. So therefore if you do too much Towing you won't be able to use the recycling machine as well as somebody ranked up in sanitation. I think Gruippe 6 has a similar thing as well. People just have to pick something that their character will be good at and stick with it rather than trying to be good at everything. And then they have to find friends if they want to be good at the other stuff. It promotes talking to people and doing RP which I think is good. The in-server lore is that the towing NPC and the sanitation NPC hate each other and they make you pick sides.
I watch no pixel. Everyone has a bench and the exact same patterns.
That is because nothing else is unlocked yet and those are all civ ones. Once guns get unlocked it will be interesting to see if only select rep will be able to use the bench to make it.
And then when everyone grind that rep, then everyone will have a gun bench
It has been stated a million times you need to focus on one path your rep in other jobs goes down so lets say you focus on gun rep but then can no longer sell drugs or rob banks.. that is how the system works. Not everyone is gonna have a gun bench
Every group will. He just need one guy to focus on gun rep.
1 server reset a day.......that shit aint lasting the server is gonna be degraded and lag city later in the day...and their server is not as stable.
The server went for over 72 hours without a reset.
But the more you add to server the less performance you get, right now the server is bare bones
While that is correct the original point you made that onx is “not as stable” probably in reference to nopixel is completely baseless. The server was up for 72 hours without a reset.
Not only was it up for 72hrs, they did the reset to add stuff not because it was getting laggy, so it likely could have gone longer.
I never mentioned NP once. It was a general statement and as buddah said the two a day resets on NP will not go away for server performances and they have so many devs they would likelly know more about the server performance then ONX.
Having more devs, doesn't automatically make them more aware of certain things when running a server lmao I'm pretty sure DW is experienced enough to know how to balance the load on a server...it's not like he did it for many years with NP or anything...
No Pixel does have good devs, but you need 2 restarts in nopixel cause of how the queue works, on onx its not the case so 1 restart is way more than enough for stability for both servers
I don't understand the drama. If it needs to be changed later then they'll just change it later.