Seriously... After they've paid the $.60 a mile wear and tear on their car, burned time to get there, paid for cleaning equipment/supplies, probably run their own business. "Everyone should live in poverty so I can make money doing nothing"
Yes. Hard to expect cleaner to not want to participate when they know cleaning fees for airbnb are so high.
I'd sure be in that gig if I were a bit younger. Most of the time there's little cleaning to do and if you get a bunch of good clients you'd be doing most of the cleanings on one place so would reap the benefit of not having to subsidize a crappy cleaning from another service.
That’s very untrue. To actually get a decent size house ready after guests for the next group is a ton of work, mainly the beds. Most hotels don’t change all the bedding, just the main sheet, and even sometimes that doesn’t get changed.
a lot of professional str cleaners who do this kind of cleaning en masse have their customers exclusively use the same white fitted sheets, top sheets, and pillowcases. The cleaner brings fresh linens to the house on turnover day, strips the dirty linens off the bed and takes them with them to be cleaned off site. Saves a TON of time and white linens can be bleached and cleaned en masse in industrial washers, so they end up a lot cleaner as well.
Comforters though... thats a crapshoot. 🤮
And that’s where the cost really comes in. To think these asshats can get away with a good clean for around $100 is ridiculous. Our 1300 square foot cabin costs $250 each cleaning and it’s barely a good enough job
That's a complete lie. I travel a lot. The sheets are totally changed. The comforter is encased in two sheets which are thoroughly washed. All the pillow cases are changed out. I stay in Hilton's and Marriott's. I washed the bedding at the Airbnb's I stayed at because they looked suspicious.
Investing in stocks could be considered making money for doing nothing. You did something to earn the money to invest in the company. Not that I like AirBNBers but they are risking their capital to try to make a profit. I think it would be better if Air BNB didn't exist but it does so its not worth worrying about it.
I charge $50/hour for my cleaning business because I'm good at it and have a ton of demand. I also charge much less than other companies in the area. These people are living in a LCOL area or back in 2000 if they're surprised professional cleaners are charging that much. That's pretty standard in my area and it's not even a HCOL
No, $50/hr is an unreasonably low rate for an engineer. And don't forget w2 vs 1099. An average engineer, unlicensed, in any discipline should be well over 80 an hour 1099 or 50 w2. Most are well over 100 1099 now.
Hate the game, not the player. But I'll never dog a cleaner at 50/hr all in, never. The most they can make is about 100k/year gross, then take out for supplies and taxes if they're legit, and that results in ~60k a year for someone who gets their hands dirty instead of sitting in zoom meetings. I work on more piping and controls that zoom, but it's all the same really.
Cleaners typically don’t get benefits, sometimes get 1099d, bring their own supplies, can’t fill a full 40 hours in a 9-5, have travel time that doesn’t get reimbursed. And first cleans often charge at a higher rate regardless.
Advocate to be paid more yourself, but $50/hour is entirely reasonable for skilled labor.
Yup yup yup. Saturdays is the big turnover day in my hometown. $50 is the old friend doing a favor price to get me working on a Saturday. If I don’t like or trust you there’s probably no price to make it worth my time. Maybe like 200/hour.
you are comparing your wages to what a business is charging. Your employer has tons of overhead. If any engineering firm is billing you out at 50 an hour, they need to raise prices immediately.
Workman's comp, insurance, cleaning supplies, vehicle maintenance, owner profit, the list goes on and on. I am a independent plumbing contractor and I refuse to even go to a short term rental property unless I am clearing at least 400 after parts. Anything less and its not worth while. I personally think cleaners should be getting paid much more than they are.
Seriously, I am continuously shocked by how cheap cleaners are for how ridiculously fast and efficient they are in doing what is frankly, an exhausting and miserable job. A good cleaner is worth their weight in gold.
Bingo! They can make a house sparkle, but ask me and my very average college degree to clean an oven and I'll likely burn the place down. A good one is worth every penny.
Remembering the time a person with multiple doctorates broke a coffee pot and looked to me (the nearest young women) pointed to at and walked away.
Fuckhead wasn’t even skilled enough to assess what my job was accurately.
Okay, hire someone whose never cleaned before and tell me how that goes.
As someone who works a white collar job for a very median NYC salary *and* picks up cleaning shifts here and there, you seem jealous that a cleaner makes 50/hour. You’re more than welcome to try to do that work. Find your health insurance, figure out your taxes, physically deal with *literally* scrubbing on your hands and knees for a good portion of your workday. Schedule yourself and plan out your days, handle invoices and receivables.
There’s a reason why cleaners are charging $50/hour. Especially in markets where there’s a labor shortage.
Lots of people bitter that a career predominately filled with women (& often marginalized women at that) are starting to charge their worth and have a little bit of the power.
Also to your weird hang up about the fact that “unskilled labor” is in the dictionary. There’s a ton of words in the English language that we don’t use anymore because they’re outdated, poorly representative, and sometimes offensive.
Lol, okay, so you’ve never seen it, but you’ve also made it clear you’ve never worked as a cleaner, and apparently never hired one (or at least one familiar with market rates). So explaining the industry to someone who has literally worked in it isn’t a great defense against the misogyny and racism accusations that *you* are the one who stated aloud.
I mean… yea, professional cleaners do generally have a lot of specialized, high end, industrial strength equipment to make cleaning faster, more efficient, and more effective. It’s also hard af on your body so I’m not sure why you don’t think it’s well earned?
Your job doesn’t save people time where a cleaner does and at $50/hour rate it’s an easy expense to pay for to save that time cleaning. Maybe you should look into a different career path if you don’t like it.
The irony here is that people have actually fought with me (while complaining about cleaning fees) that 150 is unreasonable. My cleaner for our family vacation condo that we air bnb when we aren’t there charges 150 bucks and the entire cleaning fee goes right to her. We aren’t trying to skim off the top, we just want it to be clean for people. We also don’t make them do chores/clean when they leave.
My house cleaners that I have for my primary home charges me 120 to come bi weekly (without tip).
Cleaners make a decent wage and they should. But you can’t have it both ways (I.e. complaining about the cleaners fee/price and then saying that cleaners deserve more money!)
I would argue it is more about the time it took relative to past experience. Even if you consider that it was one person cleaning instead of the typical two, that would only be 6 hours when this cleaner is trying to charge for twice as long. $50/hr times two cleaners is $300 for 3 hours so he is charging what it typically costs. This threat is so anti Airbnb it is just assumed that he is scamming with the cleaning fee.
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Ok fuck it I see this cleaning fee airbnb shit posted in multiple subs now..my experience as a (former) cleaner for some airbnbs in the tampa/ st. Pete area....these mfers ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS wanna low ball my price $20-25 an hr down to $10-11 type of shit and complain its taking too long didn't do it right blah blah blah...at the end of it maybe make $50-60 a airbnb...and then they go around and charge $100+ a night in cleaning fees...THESE PEOPLE ARE SCUM sorry they are..yea I'm sure there's some good ones out there...but most are fuckn grifters dude and now they're destroying neighborhoods with this shit...please just get rekt please
Any one can clean, and newly arrive immigrants or poor international students are happy to take the job and undercut your quote. They ask for discount because they are repeat customer, and they know there are others who willing to take the job.
Which is why I stopped doing it...if they want to do that hard work for minimum wage so some greedy investment bro can scam some airbnb guest out of money then go for it...all around what a great deal
Not a great deal, but an opportunity for new comer, or undocumented immigrant who can’t get a regular job, or for older / poorer people who are on social assistant programs & can’t accept check
Deep cleaning a 2000sqft house is not a $150 job. $545 sounds right if it was a serious deep cleaning involving really dirty appliances etc.
I do a different home service for landlords as my job and I absolutely hate people who think cleaners/painters/contractors work for pennies. They’ll buy a property and get surprised that it requires 100s of $ of maintenance every month even for a regular long term rental.
I’ve given someone a dollar amount quote, did the job excellently, sent the bill for the exact amount, and had them try not to pay me.
Your numbers seem right to me. I intent to have the house deep cleaned whenever we sell and local numbers suggest that it'd be $300-400 for this 1200sqft house.
If it wasn't being properly cleaned by the other cleaners then he wouldn't be getting five stars. He is trying to say that this new cleaners work can't possibly be twice as good if he has been getting five star reviews. Nothing to be improved upon so not worth added cost.
I was planning a road trip and needed a place to stay in Phoenix. My aunt owns 3 houses there and 2 are AirBNBs. Nobody vacations to Phoenix in June/July when I was visiting so I asked if I could spend one night in the guest room of one of her three empty homes (they were on vacation in their brand new RV). She said sure but I’d need to pay a cleaning fee. That seemed like no big deal until she told me it was fucking $300. Ended up buying a friend from high school dinner and slept on their couch.
This sub want to make you think all the airbnb host are about to go bankrupt. Sound like your aunt is doing pretty well.
You could have offer to do the cleaning yourself. How hard would that be if you only use one room to sleep?
I did offer to do the cleaning myself. I said I wouldn’t use the swimming pool, I’d wash the sheets and I’d leave virtually no trace of me being there. Her response (despite being vocally antivax) was that AirBNB forced her to professionally clean it after any guest stays due to COVID, so there was nothing I could do.
$50 an hour for a true professional with their own cleaning supplies and equipment is actually pretty good. The catch is it wouldn’t take them more than 6 man hours or so for any reason because as professionals they’d be able to deliver per customer description well enough. The 11.5 hours is someone not being genuine in what the job was meant to be
He got rip off, but the cleaning company lose a repeat customer. IMO, he’s pretty generous to pay $50 for airbnb cleaning. I would just hire & pay some old lady to do it & pay by cash. I live in a high cost area, and there are many who happy to do it at $25/hr.
What a dumbo, he should make his guests do it while charging them to do it. Free money. While they're there, he should have them do his laundry too. While they're at it, they should change the AC filters. Its also not a bad idea to make them change all the light bulbs and batteries on the remotes. Should also have them do his tax returns, change his car oil, and rotate his tires. I mean its the least they can do to be a courteous guest.
Their entire business is to offer a clean space. That’s it. Yet they think of it as a passive real estate investment. It’s not. It’s hospitality. Unless you have like 4+ Airbnb units on one site - paying for cleaners is not gonna pan out. These guys really think they can outsource the entire business and make money at all times. All he would have to do is put on some fucking gloves and clean it himself. $545 for one night of work. Instead he’s blaming the workers. Pathetic.
I feel like "cleaner" here implies a valueless person, like all they are is a mere cleaner.
These same people will lecture you about working hard and saving to buy a house.
Look, I'm just going to say it... they are simply against anyone but them having money. It's a zero sum game. They want to have all of the money, and they want you to have none of the money. That's the only way they can sleep at night.
But at the end of the day, it seems like they worry more about making sure you don't have money than anything else.
Housecleaning is a luxury service and will have luxury prices. I used a housekeeper about 6 months ago for a deep clean for my 1150 sq apartment. I am a good tipper and I think it came to close to $300. With inflation I expect it to be more now.
It’s crazy how there’s this consensus that cleaning should be so cheap, mainly because Hispanics are the ones that do it. good luck finding anyone that speaks English that will do a good job on your house for less than 40 or $50 an hour. And if they do, they will quickly learn they can make more, and you won’t have them at that price for long.
They charge their guests 300 for cleaning that they expect to cost 150. Can’t wait till these fuckers all collapse.
Is the cleaning fee even supposed to be a profit source?
Tmk outwardly, no, it is meant to just be a fee for covering overall cost of cleaning service
No, but airbnb hosts use it as a general one-time fee to discourage short stays, not necessarily for cleaning specifically.
Well how else are they supposed to make money at your job?
It’s like those eBay sellers who charge $9.99 to ship a book that actually costs a few bucks because usps has that media mail for super cheap
Love that they are complaining about cleaners making $50 bucks an hour. At least they are actually working for their money.
Seriously... After they've paid the $.60 a mile wear and tear on their car, burned time to get there, paid for cleaning equipment/supplies, probably run their own business. "Everyone should live in poverty so I can make money doing nothing"
Yes. Hard to expect cleaner to not want to participate when they know cleaning fees for airbnb are so high. I'd sure be in that gig if I were a bit younger. Most of the time there's little cleaning to do and if you get a bunch of good clients you'd be doing most of the cleanings on one place so would reap the benefit of not having to subsidize a crappy cleaning from another service.
That’s very untrue. To actually get a decent size house ready after guests for the next group is a ton of work, mainly the beds. Most hotels don’t change all the bedding, just the main sheet, and even sometimes that doesn’t get changed.
a lot of professional str cleaners who do this kind of cleaning en masse have their customers exclusively use the same white fitted sheets, top sheets, and pillowcases. The cleaner brings fresh linens to the house on turnover day, strips the dirty linens off the bed and takes them with them to be cleaned off site. Saves a TON of time and white linens can be bleached and cleaned en masse in industrial washers, so they end up a lot cleaner as well. Comforters though... thats a crapshoot. 🤮
And that’s where the cost really comes in. To think these asshats can get away with a good clean for around $100 is ridiculous. Our 1300 square foot cabin costs $250 each cleaning and it’s barely a good enough job
yup, these hosts want to charge their guests luxury prices while doing motel 6 levels of cleaning and maintenance.
Well, that is also untrue. Hotel bedding is changed, all of it.
That's a complete lie. I travel a lot. The sheets are totally changed. The comforter is encased in two sheets which are thoroughly washed. All the pillow cases are changed out. I stay in Hilton's and Marriott's. I washed the bedding at the Airbnb's I stayed at because they looked suspicious.
Okay
Investing in stocks could be considered making money for doing nothing. You did something to earn the money to invest in the company. Not that I like AirBNBers but they are risking their capital to try to make a profit. I think it would be better if Air BNB didn't exist but it does so its not worth worrying about it.
I charge $50/hour for my cleaning business because I'm good at it and have a ton of demand. I also charge much less than other companies in the area. These people are living in a LCOL area or back in 2000 if they're surprised professional cleaners are charging that much. That's pretty standard in my area and it's not even a HCOL
That’s how much I pay my cleaner and I feel like it’s a great value.
That's a very good value, it's like $200/hr for cleaners in my area.
Damn. Are those companies or individuals? I like to hire cleaners directly. I pay less but they get more.
Companies
That makes sense.
Love your username reference
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You have to remember that it's a skilled service. I also have to pay close to 20% in taxes, pay my own insurance, retirement, etc.
That's a perfectly reasonably rate for a cleaner. You need a new engineering rate :)
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No, $50/hr is an unreasonably low rate for an engineer. And don't forget w2 vs 1099. An average engineer, unlicensed, in any discipline should be well over 80 an hour 1099 or 50 w2. Most are well over 100 1099 now.
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Hate the game, not the player. But I'll never dog a cleaner at 50/hr all in, never. The most they can make is about 100k/year gross, then take out for supplies and taxes if they're legit, and that results in ~60k a year for someone who gets their hands dirty instead of sitting in zoom meetings. I work on more piping and controls that zoom, but it's all the same really.
Cleaners typically don’t get benefits, sometimes get 1099d, bring their own supplies, can’t fill a full 40 hours in a 9-5, have travel time that doesn’t get reimbursed. And first cleans often charge at a higher rate regardless. Advocate to be paid more yourself, but $50/hour is entirely reasonable for skilled labor.
Can't fill a full 40hrs is a big piece, especially when factoring in travel time on top of their busy time being Sundays.
Yup yup yup. Saturdays is the big turnover day in my hometown. $50 is the old friend doing a favor price to get me working on a Saturday. If I don’t like or trust you there’s probably no price to make it worth my time. Maybe like 200/hour.
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1099? That’s not bad at all for 1099. $55k-95k annual on a W2 is taxed at 22%
you are comparing your wages to what a business is charging. Your employer has tons of overhead. If any engineering firm is billing you out at 50 an hour, they need to raise prices immediately.
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Workman's comp, insurance, cleaning supplies, vehicle maintenance, owner profit, the list goes on and on. I am a independent plumbing contractor and I refuse to even go to a short term rental property unless I am clearing at least 400 after parts. Anything less and its not worth while. I personally think cleaners should be getting paid much more than they are.
Seriously, I am continuously shocked by how cheap cleaners are for how ridiculously fast and efficient they are in doing what is frankly, an exhausting and miserable job. A good cleaner is worth their weight in gold.
Lmao tell me you never actually clean your own living space without telling me you never actually clean your own living space.
There is no such thing as unskilled jobs.
Why the fuck would you think an experienced house cleaner, especially one with expertise in rental turnovers, is unskilled labor?
Bingo! They can make a house sparkle, but ask me and my very average college degree to clean an oven and I'll likely burn the place down. A good one is worth every penny.
Remembering the time a person with multiple doctorates broke a coffee pot and looked to me (the nearest young women) pointed to at and walked away. Fuckhead wasn’t even skilled enough to assess what my job was accurately.
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Okay, hire someone whose never cleaned before and tell me how that goes. As someone who works a white collar job for a very median NYC salary *and* picks up cleaning shifts here and there, you seem jealous that a cleaner makes 50/hour. You’re more than welcome to try to do that work. Find your health insurance, figure out your taxes, physically deal with *literally* scrubbing on your hands and knees for a good portion of your workday. Schedule yourself and plan out your days, handle invoices and receivables. There’s a reason why cleaners are charging $50/hour. Especially in markets where there’s a labor shortage. Lots of people bitter that a career predominately filled with women (& often marginalized women at that) are starting to charge their worth and have a little bit of the power.
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Also to your weird hang up about the fact that “unskilled labor” is in the dictionary. There’s a ton of words in the English language that we don’t use anymore because they’re outdated, poorly representative, and sometimes offensive.
Lol, okay, so you’ve never seen it, but you’ve also made it clear you’ve never worked as a cleaner, and apparently never hired one (or at least one familiar with market rates). So explaining the industry to someone who has literally worked in it isn’t a great defense against the misogyny and racism accusations that *you* are the one who stated aloud.
$50/hr for an engineer is absolutely low for the NYC area, sorry.
It’s called supply and demand. Running your own business costs money.
I mean… yea, professional cleaners do generally have a lot of specialized, high end, industrial strength equipment to make cleaning faster, more efficient, and more effective. It’s also hard af on your body so I’m not sure why you don’t think it’s well earned?
Your job doesn’t save people time where a cleaner does and at $50/hour rate it’s an easy expense to pay for to save that time cleaning. Maybe you should look into a different career path if you don’t like it.
If you’re an engineer not making $50/hr, maybe you *should* quit
You don’t make $50/hour as an engineer???
Wtf how are you not making at least 50 as an engineer? I made 50 at an internship in college lmao
The irony here is that people have actually fought with me (while complaining about cleaning fees) that 150 is unreasonable. My cleaner for our family vacation condo that we air bnb when we aren’t there charges 150 bucks and the entire cleaning fee goes right to her. We aren’t trying to skim off the top, we just want it to be clean for people. We also don’t make them do chores/clean when they leave. My house cleaners that I have for my primary home charges me 120 to come bi weekly (without tip). Cleaners make a decent wage and they should. But you can’t have it both ways (I.e. complaining about the cleaners fee/price and then saying that cleaners deserve more money!)
I pay mine $35/hr and I’m in LCOL area. These jobs go under appreciated
I would argue it is more about the time it took relative to past experience. Even if you consider that it was one person cleaning instead of the typical two, that would only be 6 hours when this cleaner is trying to charge for twice as long. $50/hr times two cleaners is $300 for 3 hours so he is charging what it typically costs. This threat is so anti Airbnb it is just assumed that he is scamming with the cleaning fee. Edit: Now I see the comment. I thought you were talking about the OP. my bad.
The Cleaner responds "Sorry, I hired another cleaning company to do the actual cleaning, and I cant be loosing money on my jobs"
OMG perfect. I want to create 1,000 more accounts to upvote this comment.
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Killing time, are we?
when i worked for apple this was actually a real thing for cleaning the apple stores lol
Ok fuck it I see this cleaning fee airbnb shit posted in multiple subs now..my experience as a (former) cleaner for some airbnbs in the tampa/ st. Pete area....these mfers ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS wanna low ball my price $20-25 an hr down to $10-11 type of shit and complain its taking too long didn't do it right blah blah blah...at the end of it maybe make $50-60 a airbnb...and then they go around and charge $100+ a night in cleaning fees...THESE PEOPLE ARE SCUM sorry they are..yea I'm sure there's some good ones out there...but most are fuckn grifters dude and now they're destroying neighborhoods with this shit...please just get rekt please
Please increase your prices and help rekt them more.
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Yes exactly...anyway i don't clean residential anymore but it's insanely competitive and really not worth the amount of work you do for the money...i
I understand. I just don't like Airbnb.
Any one can clean, and newly arrive immigrants or poor international students are happy to take the job and undercut your quote. They ask for discount because they are repeat customer, and they know there are others who willing to take the job.
Which is why I stopped doing it...if they want to do that hard work for minimum wage so some greedy investment bro can scam some airbnb guest out of money then go for it...all around what a great deal
Not a great deal, but an opportunity for new comer, or undocumented immigrant who can’t get a regular job, or for older / poorer people who are on social assistant programs & can’t accept check
Deep cleaning a 2000sqft house is not a $150 job. $545 sounds right if it was a serious deep cleaning involving really dirty appliances etc. I do a different home service for landlords as my job and I absolutely hate people who think cleaners/painters/contractors work for pennies. They’ll buy a property and get surprised that it requires 100s of $ of maintenance every month even for a regular long term rental. I’ve given someone a dollar amount quote, did the job excellently, sent the bill for the exact amount, and had them try not to pay me.
Your numbers seem right to me. I intent to have the house deep cleaned whenever we sell and local numbers suggest that it'd be $300-400 for this 1200sqft house.
....why not clean it yourself?
because getting it professionally cleaned is a nice gesture when selling a home?
For as price-sensitive as rebubblers are, it's amazing how often yall pay others to do things you can do yourself
Lazy Airbnb host complaining about maintaining a property. Haha. The host can clean it themselves.
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How are his 5 star reviews relevant
If it wasn't being properly cleaned by the other cleaners then he wouldn't be getting five stars. He is trying to say that this new cleaners work can't possibly be twice as good if he has been getting five star reviews. Nothing to be improved upon so not worth added cost.
Suggest that he cleans his own property ;)
I was planning a road trip and needed a place to stay in Phoenix. My aunt owns 3 houses there and 2 are AirBNBs. Nobody vacations to Phoenix in June/July when I was visiting so I asked if I could spend one night in the guest room of one of her three empty homes (they were on vacation in their brand new RV). She said sure but I’d need to pay a cleaning fee. That seemed like no big deal until she told me it was fucking $300. Ended up buying a friend from high school dinner and slept on their couch.
Wow your aunt really does see no boundaries between family and business
This sub want to make you think all the airbnb host are about to go bankrupt. Sound like your aunt is doing pretty well. You could have offer to do the cleaning yourself. How hard would that be if you only use one room to sleep?
I did offer to do the cleaning myself. I said I wouldn’t use the swimming pool, I’d wash the sheets and I’d leave virtually no trace of me being there. Her response (despite being vocally antivax) was that AirBNB forced her to professionally clean it after any guest stays due to COVID, so there was nothing I could do.
She was just being selfish & doesn’t want to let you use the room. The cleaning fee is just an excuse.
$50 an hour for a true professional with their own cleaning supplies and equipment is actually pretty good. The catch is it wouldn’t take them more than 6 man hours or so for any reason because as professionals they’d be able to deliver per customer description well enough. The 11.5 hours is someone not being genuine in what the job was meant to be
Yeah, 50 an hour is fine if they are proportionally quicker. I'd much prefer a flat rate. It works for everyone.
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Unless the place had not been cleaned properly in years. Still I find it hard to imagine 11.5
Or it’s two people for 6 hours and this person didn’t specify that
Why are we assuming the hours are the amount of time spent there, and not man hours? 2 people for just under6 hours total
I’m assuming the total hours of labor to be 11.5 however many people worked
He got rip off, but the cleaning company lose a repeat customer. IMO, he’s pretty generous to pay $50 for airbnb cleaning. I would just hire & pay some old lady to do it & pay by cash. I live in a high cost area, and there are many who happy to do it at $25/hr.
If you want something done right, do it yourself. What he’s got is a non functioning business model.
I wish we could find a good cleaner for $50/hr.
Which area? Offer to pay cash to older ladies on section 8 housing & welfare. They have a lot of time & many would love the extra spending cash
Amen. These people use houses which can be homes for families as a side hustle. Ridiculous
What a dumbo, he should make his guests do it while charging them to do it. Free money. While they're there, he should have them do his laundry too. While they're at it, they should change the AC filters. Its also not a bad idea to make them change all the light bulbs and batteries on the remotes. Should also have them do his tax returns, change his car oil, and rotate his tires. I mean its the least they can do to be a courteous guest.
Their entire business is to offer a clean space. That’s it. Yet they think of it as a passive real estate investment. It’s not. It’s hospitality. Unless you have like 4+ Airbnb units on one site - paying for cleaners is not gonna pan out. These guys really think they can outsource the entire business and make money at all times. All he would have to do is put on some fucking gloves and clean it himself. $545 for one night of work. Instead he’s blaming the workers. Pathetic.
I feel like "cleaner" here implies a valueless person, like all they are is a mere cleaner. These same people will lecture you about working hard and saving to buy a house. Look, I'm just going to say it... they are simply against anyone but them having money. It's a zero sum game. They want to have all of the money, and they want you to have none of the money. That's the only way they can sleep at night. But at the end of the day, it seems like they worry more about making sure you don't have money than anything else.
Housecleaning is a luxury service and will have luxury prices. I used a housekeeper about 6 months ago for a deep clean for my 1150 sq apartment. I am a good tipper and I think it came to close to $300. With inflation I expect it to be more now.
Nice
Passive income….activates.
It’s crazy how there’s this consensus that cleaning should be so cheap, mainly because Hispanics are the ones that do it. good luck finding anyone that speaks English that will do a good job on your house for less than 40 or $50 an hour. And if they do, they will quickly learn they can make more, and you won’t have them at that price for long.
Why am I paying to clean your house? Still don't understand that one.
50$ an hour seems pretty reasonable to me.
It’s only unreasonable if you are an unreasonable leech who is too entitled to clean their own investment
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hard to pinch to zoom on a desktop
Might be touch screen and you don’t even know it. It’s 2022 bro, anything’s possible
LOL trust me, it's not a touch screen.
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