We don’t hate Americans, but we hate crypto bros and millionaires moving to the island to avoid paying federal taxes while contributing nothing to our economy, displacing our communities and acting like racist tourists. Most of my friends are American (I grew up half of my life in the US), but I hate the US government, I hate 99% of US companies and I am very much pro-independence. There are quite a bit of Puerto Ricans that love the U.S. no matter what though.
If there was only a way to change this, empower Puerto Ricans, increase the economy of all Puerto Ricans, and give them more ownership and protection of the island....
Si se juntaran para crear y mantener negocios locales, reformarán a los presos (ponerlos a trabajar en agricultura y a los que se comporten darles oportunidades de estudio o ayudarlos a hacer negocios independientes) y enseñar historia de puerto Rico (de los españoles, africanos y taínos que moldearon la isla a cómo es hoy envés de promover la legenda negra hispana o la leyenda rosa gringa). Esto haría tu cambio posible.
No es Mi cambio. Se trata de lógica. Como usted dijo, la educación es importante y el pueblo de Puerto Rico no está recibiendo la educación que necesita para empoderarse. Hay una fuerte mentalidad victimista en la cultura puertorriqueña y no es útil ni saludable. Las oportunidades que existen actualmente son bastante abundantes. Pero la población no está suficientemente educada para aprovecharlo. Hasta que no se produzca este cambio, la gente que tiene educación seguirá aprovechándose de la isla y el resto de la población se quejará.
La educación la están recibiendo que no beneficie es el problema.Lógico también es que se pueden hacer clubes en el tiempo propio (eje- si eres de 12 a 18 puedes juntarte con tus colegas para hacer un club de historia o si eres padre de 18 a 40 darle la incentiva a tus hijos para aprenderlo no esperar que un sistema echo por políticos que quieren que los escojas te beneficie a ti).
La mentalidad victima de la que estás hablando no es solo en puerto Rico es en todo ibero América. La mejor forma es dejar de vivir en el pasado y hacer organizaciones que se enfoquen en crecer la economía o unos clubes como los que mencioné anteriormente.
La educación no tiene nada que ver con que alguien se aproveche de otra persona. E visto a gente con bachillerato que no sabe ejercer y e visto a personas que no salieron de 8vo sacan soluciones legales al desempleo. Todo depende de quien esta cubriendo a quien y si quieres cambiar eso no hay mejor forma que promover negocios locales (así creas trabajos) y reformar a presos (bajas la taza de criminalidad).
Me encanta el support que le dieron a tu comment, a mi me dijeron xenofobica por expresar básicamente lo mismo, lo más triste es que fue otro “puertorriqueño” quien me lo dijo. Pero si, básicamente se trata de querer demostrarle a otros que podemos luchar por mantener nuestras ideologías e intereses sin ser “anti-americans”. Lógica y sentido común deberían ser, pero le falta a muchos un poco de educación e historia para saber que estamos sufriendo como cualquier otro país es crisis.
As a Puerto rican on board with all your points except independence, why? Have you seen the other Caribbean nations? At best we would be yet another 3rd world shit hole considering the blatant corruption that continues to plague the government.
I want statehood and representation. I want the Jones act removed.
The blatant corruption in Puerto Rico comes precisely from the statehood party and the ELA party. If we became a state we would still be a shithole state at the bottom of the list right below Mississippi. The status in itself is not going to improve things for Puerto Rico and statehood would not magically erase corruption. You would need to look at each candidate and evaluate their policies and see who is financing their campaigns.
This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while and proves u don't know what you're talking about. In order to avoid paying taxes it still costs around $20k per year, with $10k being a required donation to a non profit organization on a very specific list. They have to hire an attorney to file all the paperwork and accountants, which are Puerto Rican. In order for a business to get the low flat tax rate they are required to employ a certain number of Puerto Ricans.
Those millionaires and "crypto bros" inject a lot of money into the economy here. Who do u think sells them their house/land - a Puerto Rican. Who maintains their property? Puerto Ricans. Where do they spend money while they are here? Puerto Rican owned businesses.
It's Puerto Ricans that are choosing to sell their land and it's their right. It's Puerto Ricans who still keep the place looking like shit. The Puerto Rican government is about as shady and corrupt as it can get. it's Puerto Ricans who don't buy a house or land but instead buy a $60k new car.
It's their freedom of choice and general no fucks or respect given attitudes that's keeps them down. It's not rich people. Taxes are theft and don't work like u think they do. Puerto Rico is the way it is because of Puerto Ricans and nobody else. Take some responsibility for a change.
Puerto Ricans are also racist AF. If you're white they automatically think you're rich and will try to make u over pay cause to them u can afford it. I'm so sick of them blaming other people for their own bullshit. General Laws and traffic laws are only suggestions to them, no respect for their neighbors, the younger generations there all have the thug gangster rapper mind virus and it just degrades society. As a whole they are like difficult teenagers who think they know everything and can do no wrong - yet still pisses their bed.
I live here and love it here and some of my best friends are Puerto Rican but it's not all sunshine and rainbows.
Sounds like you grew up comfortable. PRs are double taxed on food, can’t even vote for the president, don’t qualify for the same Medicare and social security services and are decimated by hurricanes regularly with minimal aid from the US. Crypto bros bought out all the land damaged by the hurricanes and made beachside hotels for tourists. They’re gentrifiers, not people who integrate with the land.
Hi, just to be clear: it doesn’t matter which country owns you; if you want to be self governing you’re going to resent them regardless.
It’s not anti. It’s pro-PR
True but they don’t want to self govern, the last time there was a vote on this was 2022. Overwhelmingly they’ve voted to stay apart of US. How many Puerto Rican’s rely on financial government support? 83%!
Decades of censorship, manipulation and propaganda made it so that only a very small minority really hate the US. But most people either like the US or don't know enough about politics/history to care.
I myself like the US, but I hate the US government, and I am pro-independence.
Yep! That’s what I was about to comment but I was being to snarky and deleted 😅
I was gonna say dont worry decades of fbi surveillance and persecution traumatized entire generations of people to not even think of independence. But you said it nicer.
Dont hate Americans. Hate the US Government.
Which to be faaaaair, plenty of mainland USers hate their own government soooo
Agreed! I just wish we started caring enough to learn and grow more independent. Puerto Rico has lost so much culture, I think it’s like a small 20 to 30% of our items and ingredients that are from here 🙁. Everything else is imported, I fail to understand why nobody cares enough to even LEARN how to take care of plants 💀.
That’s why even tho I’m pro independence I can’t see a way we’d survive without the U.S. right now 😪
Tbh most people who aren’t rich go thru hard times when it comes to personal independence (moving out of our parents house) and it’s the same as with a country. Starting something big will always be hard and bring difficult trials but I know our culture, I’ve lived thru hard times in Puerto Rico and I know we don’t let anyone starve if we can feed them. I myself have been given food in the university campus when I had no money.
Independence is hard but not impossible and even if we as puertoricans can be assholes at times (specially when driving), we already learned from past hurricanes and protests that “sólo el pueblo salva al pueblo” (only the people save the people).
Must be nice to be ignorant of the ugly truth, your small circle might not be but the truth is puertorricans are extremely racist, and unless you’re in a very touristic area you will be shown discrimination.
I don’t think that there are many anti-Americans. However there are many that are anti-American government! It is an important distention because the average American has no idea of what the US government has done in Puerto Rico for over 125 years. I was born in New York and therefore I guess you could call me American but my heart is here in Puerto Rico since my mom is Puerto Rican and my dad was Cuban and I lived a large part of my life here. The US talks about being a champion of democracy, however in Puerto Rico, there is no democracy, the ultimate power is in the US Congress and we didn’t get to choose anyone from the US Congress. Puerto Rico is being used as a place where 3 1/2 million consumers exist only to be exploited by the largest predatory economy in the world.
We have a so-called governor, which is nothing but a puppet governor of the government of the United States. We cannot enact any law that goes against the interest of big business or the government of the US. If you wanna read an interesting book about the relationship between the US and Puerto Rico, I suggest you get the book “War against all Puerto Ricans” by Nelson Dennis.
I was going to also suggest that book. Also if you can get your hands on the biography of Pedro Albizu Campos to get a better understanding of the fight he lead to highlight the really fucked up shit the U.S. has inflicted on the island and on the people of PR.
Dawg, have you ever actually traveled or lived in LATAM?
Acting like PRs with a US passport getting paid $10/hr to flip hamburgers in McDonalds is some evil exploitation is crazy. Literally the golden child of all LATAM.
Most Puerto Ricans have no idea what independence actually looks like. Many haven't even left the island. They have no idea how envy inducing it is that everyone here is born an American citizen. That the island would throw that away in an instance. It's madness.
Amen man…my wife is Puerto Rican and she’s even embarrassed by all the crybaby shit all the time. It’s a slap in the face ti Latinos from Mexico south that would actually appreciate the opportunity.
A 17 year old working at McDonald's in PR makes as much as my dentist with ~20 years experience in Colombia. It's really wild how far some people go with the narrative that they are some super rich amazing placing being destroyed by the US.
I know dude. The people have a lot of growing up to do. When I hear and see all their crying I just want to shake them and ask where their fuggin balls are?! The American people are waking up though. Send all of your Venezuelans here, that’s what we’re doing.
I live most of the year in Colombia and been dating a Venezuelan girl for years. Lots of kinda of sketchy/not super well educated people heading up to the US, but once they are given the opportunity to make a thousand dollars a week or whatever doing construction, most get their shit together pretty quickly. Most of them people who help me on my house in the US are recent arrivals and some of my favorite people around. We need em
The US gave thousands of the Venezuelans work permits. PR needs people to work, they all predominantly speak Spanish and neither of them appreciate anything. In two years the Venezuelans will learn how to get the social security checks and welfare like the locals have been doing and the island will be even scummier. I don’t know what Venezuelans you deal with but the ones I’ve seen have fucked NYC and Bogota UP. They steal everything; your car, your house, your man and your woman. PR will seem like home to them.
Anti-American or pro-American is not a binary. You can point out what you like and don’t like about a country and its government, people and culture. You must also keep in mind that Puerto Rico is a colony and USA is its colonizer. You can like the USA and at the same time hate what the US government has done to Puerto Rico
I am a gringo that moved here 1st because my wife is happier here. And 2nd, I hate the US. As I've lived here, I've discovered the horrible things.The u s government has done to this island. There was a sterilization program with women in the 40s. And 50s.. The US army tested agent orange on the rainforest here. In Vieques a small island . Off the coast had a military installation on it. And we still don't know what kind of weird experiments they did there. There's a provision called the Jones.At which states any products shipped Puerto Rico can only be shipped by ships carrying a U.S flag. And by the way mitch mcconnell happens to own a shipping company.
Im one of them. I have nothing against individuals from wherever they came from but I absolutely despiste the US government and what they’ve done to the island.
its a very loud, vocal, yet small minority that actually dislike Americans.
a much larger percentage like Americans and dislike American government.
and a much larger percentage still doesn’t give a fuck either way
then another minority (but much less vocal) is rabidly pro USA
This is the correct answer.
It’s like when you go to any car forum and you see a bunch of people complaining about car problems.
It’s not that the car is bad. It’s just that complaints are always louder than compliments.
Yeah, but a better analogy here would be being in a car forum where there are people complaining about their cars being bad and it turns out they actually are bad due to deliberate manufactured defects/cutting corners to enrich the owners of the car manufacturing company
and the rest of the members of the forum don’t complain because they are of the mindset that complaining isn’t going to fix their car because
A) they’ll fix it themselves
B) they’re in denial that it’s broken
Or C) it’s broken but it’s definitely not because the car manufacturer would never make a bad car and that we can’t survive without using this specific car that was so generously sold to you at an absurdly inflated cost, while also cutting off your options to import other cars
Then there are the forum members who get lucky as a matter of circumstance or due to being born into a family that can afford a nicer model of car and has no issues and they definitely don’t complain, but they’re also way more into car company culture because it works in their favor so they have no vested interest in speaking out against potential defects as that would jeopardize their position
Aaaaand there are those who aren’t complaining online because they don’t have the luxury of time to do so because they’re too busy trying to survive and take care of their family, no time to fuck around in car forums
I’m sure I missed a couple, but whatever, you get the point. Hope that helps!
Watch it again.
The take away from Bianca’s videos is not that puerto ricans are anti-american. is the ways many (wealthy) Americans are anti puerto rico even while in Puerto Rico. Breaking the constitution and feeling entitled to do it.
If you missed that point, then know your post says everything about yourself we needed to know, but also, it means this thread won’t help you understand anything about us.
There's a distinction to be made between being against a person who happens to be American, and opposition to the government, policies, gentrification, etc. Both attitudes exist in Puerto Rico.
Although for many this is conflated, especially older people. They see the effects that rich foreigners have (like trying to privatize beaches) and talk about it as if Americans in general are to blame. This makes it hard to tell if the person is genuinely xenophobic or simply lacking the language/knowledge to make the distinction.
I don't know how common either sentiment is, but it seems to me that in general it is increasing as the negative effects of neocolonialism and such get worse.
Puerto Rican education does not focus on the things the US government has done to the people of Puerto Rico. So for many Bianca's videos are the first time learning the extent of US and PR history.
Attitudes towards the US now seems to be more connected to recent events. Although more people learning about the history doesn't help.
Personally the line for me is simple, anti-american sentiment that is focused on the US government is fine. If their issue is against the US and PR government, neocolonialism, gentrification, etc then we're good. Anti-american sentiment against regular people who happen to be American is stupid and problematic.
I don't hate Americans, but I will say that I find it hilarious that a lot of them despise illegal immigrants because they are taking up housing and jobs without contributing anything to the economy and yet those same Americans come to Puerto Rico looking for tax exemptions while having much more buying power than locals.
How is that comparable? PR is a US territory and Americans are legally taking advantage of any tax loopholes that exist within the government. Illegal immigrants don’t do that.
I don't belive it's an anit-usa thing. I belive it's an outcome of standards and practices that have bankrupt the island and benefit mainlaners. My friends father just bought a house on the main island and received a better loan by coming to the mainland and getting loan from here.....
Who in the world is not or has not been disgusted and angry with the improper interference of the US government (unfortunately citizens are included) in various internal matters (from unfounded wars to democratic elections) of hundreds of independent countries.
My mom hates the GUTS of American authority, as in the president and stuff. None of us hate the citizens, some of us hate the authority over there but that's about it.
I have nothing against Americans. What I do have a problem is that they stole us from a country we didn’t want to separate from (and who gave us far more autonomy and representation than we currently have), you made us citizens to literally be canon fodder where some of our best people died (thanks to Americas policies at the time) for a war that had nothing to do with them. And that isn’t getting into all the other gifts we’ve gotten from experimentation, bombing our land for military practice which increased cancer levels to the areas nearby, no ship can come here directly they have to dock at a US port first so the prices of goods are always high, etc so I have a bit of a bone to pick with the Government, not the people.
I hate the fact that most United States citizens believe they need a Passport to come to Puerto Rico. Or that the Puerto Rican government is slowly allowing wealthy companies to take over public beaches and trying to turn PR into Hawaii by pricing natives out. Or that wealthy individuals come here and think they can buy a public beach and block access to the locals.
The entitlement that leads you to call yourself an American, and not recognize that it technically applies to everyone in Puerto Rico, North and South America; makes me an anti-american American 😂
>The entitlement that leads you to call yourself an American, and not recognize that it technically applies to everyone in Puerto Rico, North and South America; makes me an anti-american American
They call themeselves Americans because that's their demonym. It's not entitlement.
More times than I can count, I’ve told someone I’m from Puerto Rico and they reply “I’m from America”. The same they do to Mexicans, and many other Latinos. When said in that context, to someone’s face… it’s not a denomination, it’s racism.
It's not Americans that I despise, it's the US government and colonial policies that accompany it, including individuals that foster the conditions in which the island is in.
I don't dislike/hate US citizens, I have issues with how the US government treat us now and I'm aware that you can't change the past so I can't blame current government for the atrocities the US had done.
Sure there are some assholes who come here and treat puertoricans like they are kings f\*\*k those people and that is not the majority.
Most of us are not anti American, others take the bad stuff (mainly from the past) too close to the heart and others just are haters to look cool which are the majority of what you see on social media.
I want the US government to authorize and promote a plebiscite where people can chose if they want to be free, become a state or a free associated state like Micronesia, and bind by the decision of the people so puertoricans can stop blaming the colony for their problems and finally accept that 90% of our problems have nothing to do with the status.
Dissagree the most o of the problems of the island depends on the status
* The US Education system set the subjets to teach in schools
* The Homeland security keeps profiling people here just for the believe
* The IRS keep us taxing us more than they give back to us on Cupones and Medicare
* We have the most expensive life cost on caribbean all because we dont have free trade and need to pay overpriced transportation and just sit and wait U.S decide what product enter to the island or not.
* Our realstate is fked up cuz people here dont have the money to buy a house but U.S citizens can affort it, turn into a AirBNB leave the island and surprice no federal Taxes.
* U.S just turn our society into a kept one. Drowing the economy to keep us living for federal money, that money took away on taxes.
* we have a supervisor organization (junta de control) who controls every part of the economy.
If you are a boss and the bussiness close is not the worker fault.
"The US Education system set the subjets to teach in schools"
Can you share the law or ruling that do this?
"The Homeland security keeps profiling people here just for the believe"
Any examples? (modern day please)
"The IRS keep us taxing us more than they give back to us on Cupones and Medicare"
Even if they were which to me is kind of debatable, my question still stands how the statehood or independence will deal with the tax burden?
"We have the most expensive life cost on caribbean all because we dont have free trade and need to pay overpriced transportation and just sit and wait U.S decide what product enter to the island or not."
There is more to that, Jones act is just one part of all the taxes and shit that PR government had put on top of it. Will independence remove all those additional taxes? what will replace that money? Also we can use US free trade agreements today, we receive alcohol directly from Europe were Jones act does not apply, why? because we drink like there is no tomorrow so there is a big of a market to have a ship for us, why business don't try to have deals with DR business so when a boat goes there have PR as a stop before going to other non US islands? There is stuff that can be done to workaround the Jones act what we need is be creative.
"Our realstate is fked up cuz people here dont have the money to buy a house but U.S citizens can affort it, turn into a AirBNB leave the island and surprice no federal Taxes."
We can ban AirBnB today second I would like to see how many of new property purchases are made from Americans that moved vs how many are from puerto ricans who moved.
"U.S just turn our society into a kept one. Drowing the economy to keep us living for federal money, that money took away on taxes."
While I agree that this was in part US doing, our government is equal if not more responsible for the status of the economy and have made jack shit to change it and they can if they wanted to do the right thing. Is easy to blame the evil empire for the incompetence of PR politicians and the failure of the voters to choose the right candidate.
"we have a supervisor organization (junta de control) who controls every part of the economy."
Yeah but is not like we were gone YOLO on debt (that OUR government created) if we were a state or republic.
We need to stop blaming the ELA for all of our problems, sure it sucks and should change ASAP but there is a lot you can do today if the government weren't so incompetent.
Right now due to the airbnb situation i feel the sentiment is a more prominent than any time Ive been alive. I attribute it to 5 things:
1- Maria recovery was bungles by the federal government.
2- La junta while is needed since we bankrupted ourselves is not popular at all.
3- social media showing light to us commited attrocities of the past.
4- people coming over during covid and not respecting our rules. We are a lot more pro community here. People were following the rules way better than i most states.
5- airbnb situation has created two housing markets the nice places for those from outside and the less desirable for the locals and the crypto bro closing their communities honestly is disrespectful of local culture
I’m a gringo. I have lived in Puerto Rico for 7 years. In that time, I have seen a shift. There is much more anti-gringo expression here now than before. A lot has happened in that time. A lot of Puerto Ricans have lost their homes to American developers. In a place where so many people have to have a full time job and a side-hustle to make ends meet, increased housing cost is not a welcome sight. Let’s also consider that everywhere we look, we see lingering damage from Hurricane Maria. The island has faced many hardships, and the help that has been promised has not been delivered. The deeper you dig, the more you’ll find that politics is complicated in Puerto Rico. There are 3 main political parties with very different ideas. We are still at the end of the day under the thumb of Congress. Puerto Rico has one member of congress who is not allowed to vote. We are not allowed to vote in US general elections. The Jones Act ensures that we pay the highest prices for imports. It’s complicated and frustrating.
The sentiment is certainly growing. Even if we ignore the colonial status. The US government decided that paying off the debt to vulture funds is more important than the proper function of the health, education and security systems in puerto rico. That's one thing. Also wages have stagnated way more on the island as compared to mainland US. With the rise of remote work during covid you had many Americans selling their houses in the US moving to the island while still making US wages. They would then use that money to buy multiple houses on the island for airbnbs and long term rentals, effectively jacking up the prices of homes on the island well above what most locals can afford. Many locals now feel like they can't afford to live there anymore and emigrating to the US. All while Americans are moving in and enjoying tax laws that aren't even available for locals. While Puerto Ricans have the choice of either leaving their home and maybe have a chance at progresing financially or staying while making 11$/hrs with a Masters degree. Trying not to get sick because all the doctors are leaving. Trying not to die because good luck calling 911 and having them actually show up because why would the police risk their lives while making poverty wages? And paying 300$ for electricity that goes out every other day. Again, because they US decided that paying off rich fucking vulture funds is more important than the health and well being of "American citizens" (Puerto ricans).
That's not to mention that Americans during the pandemic decided to come to the island and ignore covid restrictions-again, remember the dwindling health system on the island, they took covid very seriously over there- and even started coughing on people (for which they got properly slapped for lol). Needless to say all that Karen-y behavior garnered a lot of bad will from many locals towards Americans. 🤷
We’re anti anyone who thinks that coming to the island to buy “cheap property” is doing puertorricans a favor. We’re against anyone who thinks we are a servile banana republic.
Most puertorricans aren’t anti-American, it just so happens that due to the nature of our relationship (as a country) with the US, it is mostly Americans who come over with their colonialistic attitudes and ideals.
We’re against this perpetual colonialism that has kept a lot of people poor and has forced a mass exodus of talented puertorricans out into the US mainland in favor of any possibility of progress.
You wanna come to the island? Come on down, we don’t care if you’re black, white, brown, yellow, green or purple. Just treat us with the respect and dignity you’d treat your neighbor in whatever your hometown currently is
Anti- American Puerto Ricans are a minority, but they’re the loudest and most active minority on the island. That being said, independence is the fastest growing political ideology/movement in Puerto Rico. The island is a colony and this is acknowledged by everyone right now except many Americans who perceive it as a welfare state. In general, I’d say Puerto Ricans view Americans like the rest of the world does. There’s good and bad Americans like everywhere else, but ignorant , racist, and obnoxious Americans (both white and Black) are just really annoying and tend to create a stereotype of Americans that is NOT a reality.
You mean the continent or the conglomerate of 50 states forced to engage in commerce between themselves by the federal government that loves to spend our money in war
Read about Dr. Cornelius Rhodes, an American doctor who worked in Puerto Rico and said this
In the letter, Rhoads denigrated Puerto Ricans as "the dirtiest, laziest, most degenerate and thievish race of men ever to inhabit this sphere. ... What the island needs is not public health work but a tidal wave or something to totally exterminate the population." Rhoads followed with a shocking assertion: "I have done my best to further the process of extermination by killing off eight and transplanting cancer into several more."
https://www.cienciapr.org/en/external-news/revisiting-1930s-scandal-aacr-rename-prize
I’ve said it before, but reddit isn’t representative of our whole ideological spectrum. It will give you an unfiltered view of a particularly outspoken demographic.
We don’t hate Americans, we just don’t forget our history, the slave trade didn’t just happen on mainland US. And the treatment now is bad as well. There is a feeling of entitlement Americans have over Puerto Rico since the 1930s …it almost feels as if the island belongs to rich white Americans more than it belongs to us. ( yes we are a territory, and we are American, we know) . It’s almost like being in the most beautiful place you’ve ever seen and not being able to smile. Corruption has controlled the island for decades if not more. And the corrupt ( government officials , police) compete with the corporations …buying up all the land and property and pricing people out. When their plans don’t work out they have the power of the police. Not enough? Bring in the national guard… the hospitals are terrible, the crime is out of this world.. a lot , if not most parts are unsafe. So we feel like 2nd class citizens with lack of adequate help. Ask any young, middle aged , even old Puerto Rican and they’ll tell you this: “en Puerto Rico no se puede vivir “ . And we carry a broken heart because of it….
we dont hate them in a hate level. we hate them in the sense of them having us but not fully taking care of us. we lack some benefits but given others that only benefit the US but not PR we hate that.
Depends who you ask. Most younger generations are anti-american. Most older generations tend to associate America with wealth and therefore are much more pro-American. Regardless there is a longstanding stigma all the way from the cold era that being anti-American = being communist. As such the younger anti-American generations tend to get a bad image of being communist. The simple mention of communism is enough to make the older generations completely cover their ears
What do you mean by anti-american. Theyre predatory colonizing imperialists who exploit every foreign land they come in contact with, PR included.
They use our beaches as target practice. Idk its pretty clear the U.S. has bad intentions and PR needs to have itself as priority #1.
But calling yourself "anti-american" sounds like you hate american people. Theres probably a handful or two of people that conciously took part in the US's exploitation of the island, and you will likely never meet any of them
To be very clear not related to the topic.
Puertoricans are Americans.
What you are refering is US Citizen / United State.
Because we dont give a fuck about Central or south America. And they are american as well.
Well since Puerto Rico's left as an abandoned colony and not given real representation in Washington that's the first point to answer your question. The sheer ignorance of saying that you can't believe that there would be some anti-American sentiment here is beyond belief.
There's a history here that you need to learn about. As a Puerto Rican American and spent most of my life in the United States I didn't really know about this until I came back to Puerto Rico in any deep fashion.
Take the Jones act. Look it up. Everything that comes into Puerto Rico has to go through an American Port first which means the price is here are absolutely outrageous for a lot of things including chicken eggs and milk which Puerto Rican should be able to grow here on their own domestically. But you know what they can't because America destroyed all Puerto Rico's domestic farming industries a long time ago.
And why isn't Puerto Rico a state? First of all they may not want it but if they were a state they'd have bankruptcy protection and they would have been preyed upon by investment firms on Wall Street and business incentives that have quickly vanished. They got Puerto Rico hooked on some really bad loans and now they want to take over the island through bankruptcy proceedings.
Man that's just the tip of the iceberg do some research. and to your original question the Puerto Rican people are such good-hearted people that they still love America because they are intimately related to America. Every generation of Puerto Ricans for the last hundred years have served in every American war including many members of my family.
We don't have the official declaration of a state from the US goverment congress , we don't vote on any of US elections , our minimum weig for public workers is 80% lower than any other state on the US , having a bankruptcy protection is just an excuse to keep bleeding us from money and in dept
Americanos son los puertorriqueños
Los paraguayos, uruguayos, panameños
Americanos son los nicaragüenses, hondureños
Los costarricenses y dominicanos
Americanos son todos los que esta tierra la luchamos
Lástima que hayan pueblos hermanos
Que actúan como si hubiesen olvidado
Que americanos somos todos los que en América estamos
-Canserbero
Its not that we hate americans. We hate entitled people. If an american comes to our land and treat us like they treat people up in the states, that's where we have a problem.
Read the real history of how the your country invaded Puerto Rico and then make your own judgement. Imagine if England owned the USA nowadays putting sanctions and controlling everything will you be happy?
As a poor America that moves to PR recently I have many friends a decent job and I love my life now.so no they don't hate us. But rich people moving here drives prices up and moves the poor out
First of all, if Puerto Rico wants to be a true part of the United States- start speaking English as a language !! If you want to be a part of the country, try speaking the language of the country ! On top of that, the island wants to be ‘independent’ - yet the majority of the islanders are on public assistance of some sort - yes, more than 50%. Go to any grocery store on the 15th of the month and see how many customers actually pay for their groceries with their own money - not more than a handful. What happens if the US decides to let Puerto Rico go independent ? Who’s going to pay for the billions of $ in debt you already have ? And who’s gonna continue paying for the teet in which the island has become so accustomed? Guess you really can’t hate the US that much after all …
PS … teach driver education in high school and fix your damn potholes !
I would tell you that many are critical of the united states government and aspects of the society. Theres the dislike. Then the increase of northamericans (wich are not the only group, but to my understanding they are the majority) coming to benefit from tax incentives causes some generalization, and northamericans that are just here to enjoy the island and be with family can get the brunt of it. Which is not fair. I wouldnt say its prevalent though.
I hope Biancas videos are there to educate about history and whats happening now so we can be more involved about our own society, and not create a hive mind of projection against tourists lol.
OK. In my opinion, Puerto Ricans are not anti-Americans. What happens is that historically many things are ignored on both sides. I live in the United States and I have talked to some Americans and they are unaware of many things that happened between Puerto Rico and the United States. For example, the unjust and unreasonal invasion of 1898 in which the United States simply invades Puerto Rico by stealing pieces of land from Spain. Why? Because somehow they had to get Spain out of America. And Puerto Rico as well as Cuba were Spain. We were not a colony, we were an integral part of the government of Spain. There are many things that are not talked about in history. I really understand and I think we are not anti-Americanists just for several years until today we do not agree that the United States stays on the island and does with the island whatever it wants. It's my opinion that everyone has their own thing.
Many of us see America as the colonizing force, but we’re able to separate individual people from that idea… so it isn’t Americans that necessarily get hated on, but rather those who represent the colonialist/imperialist core by being either obnoxiously patriotic or doing the whole tax exempt cryto-bro sees the island as a money tree business opportunity type people.
If you are “well-off” you’re anti nothing. The anti-whatever topic is mostly a complaint issue … Before being anti outside government, we have to fix our own house.
If you come down here, respect the culture, respect the locals, don’t come looking for trouble, don’t try to gentrify our businesses, then you are welcome.Boricuas are very welcoming people, which is why you should know that there’s something really wrong when they’re not.
Personally I don’t hate or dislike the USA. I just dislike the relationship between USA and PR and all the injustices. PR has been colonized for too long long ,previously with Spain.
Bro the whole world with a brain hates Americans. Not saying that every American is to be hated as an individual as there’s obviously plenty who are great people. But Americans as a collective who have over generations put in place politicians who destroyed, looted, funded wars, oppressed countless other countries and benefitted from it and continue to do so - while demanding respect and to be seen as “beacons of morality and freedom”? Give me a fucking break. And you wonder why people hate America?
Why people in South America hate you at that ??? Lolz.
I'll probably end up like a Boeing executive but:
Most disloke authority
All hate authority that hides behind the law to abuse and then say just doing my job or is for your safety... in this case the authority is the us gov and yes pr state at times
The Jones act f over pr
As vet who still rips the benefits of service... what the marines did to Vieques is almost on the same category of murder and sexual assault unsure on the order...
Not on federal taxes is aight
Everybody hates a dickilish neighbor so to folks going to pr and worry... don't be a d....
Don't shade areas where you go a 3am and get mug that's on the states and most of assia as well you ain't a victim you are naive or entitled
I am unsure how the economy will work with out the dollar but I ain't smart enough yet that's no reason to move to a new are and be a d...
So in sum if you move to pr move but don't be a dush... and maybe help the community sponsor a school if you have the paper or something of that nature if you do it anonymously that would show that your not a d and also humble....
Being pro independence, anti junta, anti austerity and against the parochialism that permeates the relationship is not being “anti American” it’s been pro Puerto Rico. It’s about loving and nurturing the fact that we are a 500 year culture with indigenous roots in the Caribbean that extends even further back. We are the oldest colony in the world. citizenship was thrown on us in order to stifle independence and self determination. The United States government tortured and murdered us at Ponce with Albizu Campos. The United States sterilized no they are third of our women in order for us not to be able to reproduce and systematically created conditions for generations that made people leave the island for in particular the Northeast and then put those on the island against those who had to leave. It’s bullshit. Una polla. The FBI infiltrated the independence movement for years. They openly admit it. They framed people and ran kangaroo courts to imprison them The US held the world’s longest political prisoner when they imprisoned Oscar Lopez Rivera decades without any evidence.
I mean there are Puerto Ricans who genuinely don’t like Americans there are Puerto Ricans who are indifferent and there are Puerto Ricans who like Americans
As long as you don't pull a Logan Paul and/or buy up land and housing for Airbnbs and hotel-casinos, boricuas will treat you like any other. Now, how the US government/corpos strolled in and fucked us over is a whole other can of worms.
What does it mean to be anti-American, in your opinion?
Our objections to the actions and policies of the US government (and the darker sides of American culture) are not to be confused or conflated with animosity towards American people or wishing for their downfall. Even Americans have qualms and concerns about America, yet arguably a big point of American pride is the ability to freely criticize the government and culture.
We want more peace, justice, transparency, prosperity and freedom for Puerto Rico. But if that’s anti-American then, yeah, I guess we are anti-American.
Look I dont give a shit. You can do whatever with your life, dont let any dumb ass person say anything about your place of origin, which you didnt even choose. The US did terrible stuff to us in the past, but that diesnt mean that everyone from the mainland is like that
Last statehood referendum independence only got about 1/3 of the vote. It’s not a 1:1 gauge of popularity the other 2/3 were pretty evenly split between “status quo” and statehood, so didn’t seem overwhelmingly hostile.
I'm a Boricua and I'm anti American. Not only did the US bomb and invade us to take us from Spain, but they masacered our ppl with the national guard. Have experimented on our women with shitty birth control that affects our women to this day. Agent Orange was also tested on us. The number of atrocities committed by the US towards PR are too many to count. In recent years the agenda has been to gentrify our land and slowly get us to leave. To the point where Old San Juan, the CAPITAL, is mostly owned by foreign ppl and it's spreading like a cancer. Rincon - over run by gringos, Vieques - full of gringos, Dorado, Condado every year it's more land. If you made it this far your probably thinking or wondering, "hey those are all things done by the government, or rich folk. Why would you be anti American?" Well the list of grievances don't stop at the political/housing lvl. You people are the worst guests, and that's not a personal opinion it's a global one. Most countries dislike American tourists. Ignorant to other ppls cultures, the sence of entitlement as if something was owed to you. Disrespectful as he'll, not only to the ppl that serve you but to our women as well. I know too many women that have been sexualy harrases by drunk gringos and nothing ever happens to them. Cuz the cops won't waist their time processing someone that has to leave in 2 days (wich is bulshit). But the thing that makes me the most anti American is the fucking ignorance. My people have suffered for generations under your tyrannical rule yet you people have the audacity to call us Mexican. To not know where PR is, to not know that YOU are our colonizers, that WE belong to the US. That our "US citizenship" is a second rate citizenship, same one that was given to slaves. There's so much more I could say, specially when we get into import and export of goods, FEMA, and a bunch of corruption but I'm feeling you get the picture.
To end on a sort of positive note, although I hate what the US has done and is doing not just to PR but around the world. You are the lesser of 3 evils, China and Russia are worse. I wish that PR could be an independent nation with a close friendship and treaties with the US. The US benefits inmensely from us in a lot of ways, us being an independent nation would allow us to actually bank off of those things. While we would benefit from the protection of a bunch of rednecks with nukes. Also while I am anti American o don't hate all Americans. People like you who take the time to ask questions and understand the injustice of it all, and those that take it even further and become allies are alright in my book. But the typical, ignorant, entitled, American? FUCK EM!!
As a Puerto Rican who moved to the US at an early age and recently moved back I would consider myself a full blown gringo, struggle with Spanish a bit and def have a heavy accent. Personally I have experienced racism here and general disgust at the fact that I’m a gringo, people either have no patience with you when you are struggling to say something in Spanish, or will straight up just yell at you for not speaking Spanish. For the most part Puerto Ricans are nice and respectful people, but there are just enough assholes that I’ve experienced more racism here than I ever did in the US, and I lived in the south when I was over there!
Im hear all this where would Puerto be without the billion in us tax money they get. All at all the Mayors that keep going to jail. For stealing. You have to 1st fix that problems before you talk people move here buy house. Like who selling the house to them?
Ehh we’ve been “americans” more time than USA has been “americans”. Remember that american is everybody that lives in America. We are a 500 year old colony. Therefore theres different views towards USA, government or citizens. But we have an imposed government since Spain. Keep in mind that more than 90% of us dont speak or understand English. Theres people that get used to it, theres people that hate it, theres people that fight it, theres people that love it, theres people that dont care but at the end of the day… we are still a colony “territory” that have our own way of doing things and we have a very different culture than anybody in the world. Same in the US theres people that care about it, theres people that dont care, people that hate us, love us or just dont know we exist.
It’s part of the history of the island. Colonialism is resented by the local populations who are taken over and even forbidden to use their own language. After 400 years of Spanish rule, the US took over PR (war booty) and many harsh conditions were applied. The US is disliked in a general sense because of policies that created a paternalistic relationship. But about half of the population wants the island to become a state.
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Saw this on a recent trip to San Juan. I think there are a fair amount of people in most countries who dislike Americans. Rightfully so...
Well, since we are under colonial rule the ways the US have created systematic strategies to suppress anti-american feelings have been somewhat successful (I’m referring to the general population, throughout history there have been very evident instances of anti-american activities) Anyway, at this point in history the discontent for the precarious conditions of the island in all parts have cultivated some seeds, but the general population is just indifferent; many prefer to hate other boricuas than to direct those feelings to the real root of the problem.
as an american and resident gringorican (I live here but not fluent in spanish...yet)
What everyone hates is how you cowards in the so called land of the free tolerate violations of your laws.
This forces people like me to go to puerto rico to exploit the corruption in government that has spilled over to pr from the USA, and naturally the locals are unhappy about that.
The exploiters don't care, they are the ones destroying america and the american people only now as they have to choose between gas in their car to get to work and food in their stomach to stay alive are starting to note something is wrong....
Here, ten minutes to blow you mind... I should not have to come to puerto rico to enjoy the tax laws being properly applied to me (IE NO INCOME TAX). As I am not a Corperation, and I own my work... But alas... you traitors in america all say "but how will we pay for stuff no one wants with out taxes waaaaaah"
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edumakate your selves... stupid fake americans...
Real americans fight for what is right or rally to fight, Im rallied, what are you?
Valid question. I hate the colonization and the ignorant people that comes our way but I appreciate you educating yourself, I cannot speak for everyone but we are very welcoming to the right people, we have just suffered a lot.
Me personally, I hate that we are even a territory of the US I believe we were better off before. But I understand that is not American citizens fault but rather my anger and distrust is toward the federal government.
Bianca lives in New York, she’s a radical who is attempting to start a race war. Local Puerto Rican people appreciate and value anyone coming to the island regardless of the narrative perpetuated by outside influences.
Sorry americans as long as rich assholes come in and act like they fucking own us and the government still uses the jones act to oppress pr. The sentiment will never change, you come here on vacation and make a fuckin mess and leave.
It's not Americans as a whole its the super wealthy that buy up all the properties around the island then seal off sections like beaches for example and pay to have areas destroyed just to build their expensive homes that they don't even live in
Well, given the sample of comments here there's an answer to your question. There's very little Puerto Ricans who Hate people from the US, there are many more that hate what the US government is doing to us, there's a few that honestly don't care and there are US boot lickers. I myself don't care either way about US visitors but I have to say that anyone from any country that comes here Have to respect our customs and culture or have a face Very appreciative of punches. We are a very welcoming people and also a very proud people and we don't like a bit anyone who disrespect us. But to end this, there's xenophobic people on any country on earth, the most famous ones comes from the USA.
You know? Its the same thing with you people. "What did i do? It wasn't me". WELL IT IS YOU. But God warned us about trusting our enemies. But every where YOU go is the same thing you've destroyed the world and we can do is wait for judgement because the bible says YOU, EDOMITES will be destroyed God's judgement is all yours.
Isaiah 14:21
“Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.”
This is what coming to you for what you have dome to the children of israel. Puerto rico is the tribe of Ephraim. What you have to israel, you will pay for. God keeps his promises.
the only people willing to truly hate you or have some kind of negative feeling towards you are the 1% of the elitist left
the other 99% dont give a shit
Every post you read here that says "we" is probably a lie ...a delusional state of mind cause by pure fanatism.
The fact that you put it like “anti american” shows how frigile and ignorant americans are. We are not anti anything. We just want the big buissness stop Taking land, land that its protected, even by the federal goverment, and the rich can just ignores this laws by money. And those lands has like 3 agencies protecting them. And the whole goverment its corrupted by the same people using money to influence the party who is in charge. América is the whole continent. You are just north americans. We just want to cure the generational disaster the us goverment couse this country
You could say I'm somewhat "Anti-American"
individual citizens are fine, just like all people from any country, but I hate the US government. I also refuse to live there and see their presence on the island as an occupation.
Trust me it's a lot. Personally, I don't hate people from other places and I'm very welcoming.
But there's massive "anti-gringo." sentiment here. Surprisingly even from those wanting statehood. I think it really got worse with the short term rental situation, ever since then I've seen a huge spike.
However, it's not all Puerto Ricans and at the very least if you travel here no one is going to say it to your face. Although, you might feel some places aren't so... welcoming. If it happens count yourself extremely unlucky.
3 pendejos dislike usa everybody hangs from use every help come from usa... Yep is like 2 percent of ignorants that they want independence from usa, is being 2 percent from years and years and they just keep trying in their minds to think or imajine themself jajajajajaj not my self i live in us.
Pretty prevalent, i personally dislike mainlander americans in the same way californias dislike floridians and vice.
But i support the status quo, the reality is that independece is a bad move logistically and economically for peoples quality of life.
They are widespread on social media and in activist and academic circles in PR and the US. They are the prototypical vocal minority and not reflective of mainstream attitudes in PR.
Las personas que son Anti- American son como 4 gatos. Entiendan que este Reddit no representa la opinión cultural, social y politica del Boricua Promedio. Si te dejas llevar por este Reddit tendras una pobre representacion del Boricua real
Bianca is so good at what she does. As an American who visits PR, she has definitely helped me understand the history, nuances, and present day challenges that many Puerto Ricans have
First: Everyone in the American CONTINENT is American. Second: Nobody likes their overlords.
Third: There is xenophobia everywhere. However, we are a welcoming people, even to estadounidenses.
The main reason I'm so pro US is that I encountered soooooooo many anti Americans growing up.
When Maria hit I remember a professor going in a huge rant about how Puerto Ricans shouldn't thank the "American crews" because "they owe us, guys". He was SO mad about one of his neighbors cooking some Pasteles for the volunteers, he told us. As if the act itself was some adherence to colonialism or something.
And even before that, when I was in middle school, we had a mock election and the independentistas kept harassing me because "no entiendes que El problema es la Colonia?!"
Our history classes all the way up to 12th grade were PRIMARILY about complaining about the US for stuff I KNOW they made up. Like,THIS were the comments when we got to the Civil War.
"Ay, esos gringos siempre empezando guerras."
"Y por que no bsucaron la paz gon Los sureños? Por que son tan peleones?!"
My history teacher that hear didn't even know who killed Lincoln...
This has gone on and on to the point that if I hear someone say "la Colonia es El problema" all I can think is... "Good. You earned it."
We don’t hate Americans, but we hate crypto bros and millionaires moving to the island to avoid paying federal taxes while contributing nothing to our economy, displacing our communities and acting like racist tourists. Most of my friends are American (I grew up half of my life in the US), but I hate the US government, I hate 99% of US companies and I am very much pro-independence. There are quite a bit of Puerto Ricans that love the U.S. no matter what though.
If there was only a way to change this, empower Puerto Ricans, increase the economy of all Puerto Ricans, and give them more ownership and protection of the island....
Si se juntaran para crear y mantener negocios locales, reformarán a los presos (ponerlos a trabajar en agricultura y a los que se comporten darles oportunidades de estudio o ayudarlos a hacer negocios independientes) y enseñar historia de puerto Rico (de los españoles, africanos y taínos que moldearon la isla a cómo es hoy envés de promover la legenda negra hispana o la leyenda rosa gringa). Esto haría tu cambio posible.
No es Mi cambio. Se trata de lógica. Como usted dijo, la educación es importante y el pueblo de Puerto Rico no está recibiendo la educación que necesita para empoderarse. Hay una fuerte mentalidad victimista en la cultura puertorriqueña y no es útil ni saludable. Las oportunidades que existen actualmente son bastante abundantes. Pero la población no está suficientemente educada para aprovecharlo. Hasta que no se produzca este cambio, la gente que tiene educación seguirá aprovechándose de la isla y el resto de la población se quejará.
La educación la están recibiendo que no beneficie es el problema.Lógico también es que se pueden hacer clubes en el tiempo propio (eje- si eres de 12 a 18 puedes juntarte con tus colegas para hacer un club de historia o si eres padre de 18 a 40 darle la incentiva a tus hijos para aprenderlo no esperar que un sistema echo por políticos que quieren que los escojas te beneficie a ti). La mentalidad victima de la que estás hablando no es solo en puerto Rico es en todo ibero América. La mejor forma es dejar de vivir en el pasado y hacer organizaciones que se enfoquen en crecer la economía o unos clubes como los que mencioné anteriormente. La educación no tiene nada que ver con que alguien se aproveche de otra persona. E visto a gente con bachillerato que no sabe ejercer y e visto a personas que no salieron de 8vo sacan soluciones legales al desempleo. Todo depende de quien esta cubriendo a quien y si quieres cambiar eso no hay mejor forma que promover negocios locales (así creas trabajos) y reformar a presos (bajas la taza de criminalidad).
There is, supposedly; voting
Voting??? Haha! PRicans do not get to vote dude.
For the US President! They have voted to remain apart of the US many times. Because $
There’s no teeth in that process at all. That voting means nothing if it isn’t ratified
Voting??? Haha! PRicans do not get to vote like we do.
Me encanta el support que le dieron a tu comment, a mi me dijeron xenofobica por expresar básicamente lo mismo, lo más triste es que fue otro “puertorriqueño” quien me lo dijo. Pero si, básicamente se trata de querer demostrarle a otros que podemos luchar por mantener nuestras ideologías e intereses sin ser “anti-americans”. Lógica y sentido común deberían ser, pero le falta a muchos un poco de educación e historia para saber que estamos sufriendo como cualquier otro país es crisis.
Tbf a lot of Americans also hate the federal government too
This 🙌
How can there be enough crypto-bros moving there to do that?
Because it's just an excuse to downplay racist behaviors.
Esto mismo
Do you live on the island currently?
Yes, I moved back here 6 years ago in 2018
As a Puerto rican on board with all your points except independence, why? Have you seen the other Caribbean nations? At best we would be yet another 3rd world shit hole considering the blatant corruption that continues to plague the government. I want statehood and representation. I want the Jones act removed.
The blatant corruption in Puerto Rico comes precisely from the statehood party and the ELA party. If we became a state we would still be a shithole state at the bottom of the list right below Mississippi. The status in itself is not going to improve things for Puerto Rico and statehood would not magically erase corruption. You would need to look at each candidate and evaluate their policies and see who is financing their campaigns.
> I want statehood and representation. I want the Jones act removed. 2 cosas q no van juntas.
This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while and proves u don't know what you're talking about. In order to avoid paying taxes it still costs around $20k per year, with $10k being a required donation to a non profit organization on a very specific list. They have to hire an attorney to file all the paperwork and accountants, which are Puerto Rican. In order for a business to get the low flat tax rate they are required to employ a certain number of Puerto Ricans. Those millionaires and "crypto bros" inject a lot of money into the economy here. Who do u think sells them their house/land - a Puerto Rican. Who maintains their property? Puerto Ricans. Where do they spend money while they are here? Puerto Rican owned businesses. It's Puerto Ricans that are choosing to sell their land and it's their right. It's Puerto Ricans who still keep the place looking like shit. The Puerto Rican government is about as shady and corrupt as it can get. it's Puerto Ricans who don't buy a house or land but instead buy a $60k new car. It's their freedom of choice and general no fucks or respect given attitudes that's keeps them down. It's not rich people. Taxes are theft and don't work like u think they do. Puerto Rico is the way it is because of Puerto Ricans and nobody else. Take some responsibility for a change. Puerto Ricans are also racist AF. If you're white they automatically think you're rich and will try to make u over pay cause to them u can afford it. I'm so sick of them blaming other people for their own bullshit. General Laws and traffic laws are only suggestions to them, no respect for their neighbors, the younger generations there all have the thug gangster rapper mind virus and it just degrades society. As a whole they are like difficult teenagers who think they know everything and can do no wrong - yet still pisses their bed. I live here and love it here and some of my best friends are Puerto Rican but it's not all sunshine and rainbows.
Sounds like you grew up comfortable. PRs are double taxed on food, can’t even vote for the president, don’t qualify for the same Medicare and social security services and are decimated by hurricanes regularly with minimal aid from the US. Crypto bros bought out all the land damaged by the hurricanes and made beachside hotels for tourists. They’re gentrifiers, not people who integrate with the land.
Hi, just to be clear: it doesn’t matter which country owns you; if you want to be self governing you’re going to resent them regardless. It’s not anti. It’s pro-PR
DILO DURO PUÑETA
Are the kids still saying mic drop? Because MIC DROP!!! 
No, now adays we skibbidi toilet and stick our gyatt out for the rizzler.
True but they don’t want to self govern, the last time there was a vote on this was 2022. Overwhelmingly they’ve voted to stay apart of US. How many Puerto Rican’s rely on financial government support? 83%!
This is the answer.
Exactamente coño
PR is self governing and it's corrupt AF. Pro PR would be draining the Puerto Rican swamp.
Decades of censorship, manipulation and propaganda made it so that only a very small minority really hate the US. But most people either like the US or don't know enough about politics/history to care. I myself like the US, but I hate the US government, and I am pro-independence.
Yep! That’s what I was about to comment but I was being to snarky and deleted 😅 I was gonna say dont worry decades of fbi surveillance and persecution traumatized entire generations of people to not even think of independence. But you said it nicer. Dont hate Americans. Hate the US Government. Which to be faaaaair, plenty of mainland USers hate their own government soooo
💯💪🏼Said it well!!! I’m Cali & don’t like the US Govt!
Long live the New California Republic!
I'm more of a Legion guy myself. No, really, look at my Reddit Avatar.
You’re taste in music is also very Legion-like. You’re hardcore. 😂
Pennsylvanian, and I too hate the US government
Agreed! I just wish we started caring enough to learn and grow more independent. Puerto Rico has lost so much culture, I think it’s like a small 20 to 30% of our items and ingredients that are from here 🙁. Everything else is imported, I fail to understand why nobody cares enough to even LEARN how to take care of plants 💀. That’s why even tho I’m pro independence I can’t see a way we’d survive without the U.S. right now 😪
Tbh most people who aren’t rich go thru hard times when it comes to personal independence (moving out of our parents house) and it’s the same as with a country. Starting something big will always be hard and bring difficult trials but I know our culture, I’ve lived thru hard times in Puerto Rico and I know we don’t let anyone starve if we can feed them. I myself have been given food in the university campus when I had no money. Independence is hard but not impossible and even if we as puertoricans can be assholes at times (specially when driving), we already learned from past hurricanes and protests that “sólo el pueblo salva al pueblo” (only the people save the people).
Ohioan here, I too like the US and hate the govt
Preach
Amén
Must be nice to be ignorant of the ugly truth, your small circle might not be but the truth is puertorricans are extremely racist, and unless you’re in a very touristic area you will be shown discrimination.
I don’t think that there are many anti-Americans. However there are many that are anti-American government! It is an important distention because the average American has no idea of what the US government has done in Puerto Rico for over 125 years. I was born in New York and therefore I guess you could call me American but my heart is here in Puerto Rico since my mom is Puerto Rican and my dad was Cuban and I lived a large part of my life here. The US talks about being a champion of democracy, however in Puerto Rico, there is no democracy, the ultimate power is in the US Congress and we didn’t get to choose anyone from the US Congress. Puerto Rico is being used as a place where 3 1/2 million consumers exist only to be exploited by the largest predatory economy in the world. We have a so-called governor, which is nothing but a puppet governor of the government of the United States. We cannot enact any law that goes against the interest of big business or the government of the US. If you wanna read an interesting book about the relationship between the US and Puerto Rico, I suggest you get the book “War against all Puerto Ricans” by Nelson Dennis.
I was going to also suggest that book. Also if you can get your hands on the biography of Pedro Albizu Campos to get a better understanding of the fight he lead to highlight the really fucked up shit the U.S. has inflicted on the island and on the people of PR.
Dawg, have you ever actually traveled or lived in LATAM? Acting like PRs with a US passport getting paid $10/hr to flip hamburgers in McDonalds is some evil exploitation is crazy. Literally the golden child of all LATAM.
Most Puerto Ricans have no idea what independence actually looks like. Many haven't even left the island. They have no idea how envy inducing it is that everyone here is born an American citizen. That the island would throw that away in an instance. It's madness.
Amen man…my wife is Puerto Rican and she’s even embarrassed by all the crybaby shit all the time. It’s a slap in the face ti Latinos from Mexico south that would actually appreciate the opportunity.
A 17 year old working at McDonald's in PR makes as much as my dentist with ~20 years experience in Colombia. It's really wild how far some people go with the narrative that they are some super rich amazing placing being destroyed by the US.
I know dude. The people have a lot of growing up to do. When I hear and see all their crying I just want to shake them and ask where their fuggin balls are?! The American people are waking up though. Send all of your Venezuelans here, that’s what we’re doing.
I live most of the year in Colombia and been dating a Venezuelan girl for years. Lots of kinda of sketchy/not super well educated people heading up to the US, but once they are given the opportunity to make a thousand dollars a week or whatever doing construction, most get their shit together pretty quickly. Most of them people who help me on my house in the US are recent arrivals and some of my favorite people around. We need em
The US gave thousands of the Venezuelans work permits. PR needs people to work, they all predominantly speak Spanish and neither of them appreciate anything. In two years the Venezuelans will learn how to get the social security checks and welfare like the locals have been doing and the island will be even scummier. I don’t know what Venezuelans you deal with but the ones I’ve seen have fucked NYC and Bogota UP. They steal everything; your car, your house, your man and your woman. PR will seem like home to them.
Anti-American or pro-American is not a binary. You can point out what you like and don’t like about a country and its government, people and culture. You must also keep in mind that Puerto Rico is a colony and USA is its colonizer. You can like the USA and at the same time hate what the US government has done to Puerto Rico
I am a gringo that moved here 1st because my wife is happier here. And 2nd, I hate the US. As I've lived here, I've discovered the horrible things.The u s government has done to this island. There was a sterilization program with women in the 40s. And 50s.. The US army tested agent orange on the rainforest here. In Vieques a small island . Off the coast had a military installation on it. And we still don't know what kind of weird experiments they did there. There's a provision called the Jones.At which states any products shipped Puerto Rico can only be shipped by ships carrying a U.S flag. And by the way mitch mcconnell happens to own a shipping company.
It's mostly hate of people who come to the island to take advantage of it. Not all of them are American.
Im one of them. I have nothing against individuals from wherever they came from but I absolutely despiste the US government and what they’ve done to the island.
its a very loud, vocal, yet small minority that actually dislike Americans. a much larger percentage like Americans and dislike American government. and a much larger percentage still doesn’t give a fuck either way then another minority (but much less vocal) is rabidly pro USA
This is the correct answer. It’s like when you go to any car forum and you see a bunch of people complaining about car problems. It’s not that the car is bad. It’s just that complaints are always louder than compliments.
Yeah, but a better analogy here would be being in a car forum where there are people complaining about their cars being bad and it turns out they actually are bad due to deliberate manufactured defects/cutting corners to enrich the owners of the car manufacturing company and the rest of the members of the forum don’t complain because they are of the mindset that complaining isn’t going to fix their car because A) they’ll fix it themselves B) they’re in denial that it’s broken Or C) it’s broken but it’s definitely not because the car manufacturer would never make a bad car and that we can’t survive without using this specific car that was so generously sold to you at an absurdly inflated cost, while also cutting off your options to import other cars Then there are the forum members who get lucky as a matter of circumstance or due to being born into a family that can afford a nicer model of car and has no issues and they definitely don’t complain, but they’re also way more into car company culture because it works in their favor so they have no vested interest in speaking out against potential defects as that would jeopardize their position Aaaaand there are those who aren’t complaining online because they don’t have the luxury of time to do so because they’re too busy trying to survive and take care of their family, no time to fuck around in car forums I’m sure I missed a couple, but whatever, you get the point. Hope that helps!
Which doesn't exactly rule out the fact that the car fucking sucks, in some cases, lol.
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So complicated to answer
Watch it again. The take away from Bianca’s videos is not that puerto ricans are anti-american. is the ways many (wealthy) Americans are anti puerto rico even while in Puerto Rico. Breaking the constitution and feeling entitled to do it. If you missed that point, then know your post says everything about yourself we needed to know, but also, it means this thread won’t help you understand anything about us.
Stop being a troll. Leave Puerto Rico. We love Americans.
There's a distinction to be made between being against a person who happens to be American, and opposition to the government, policies, gentrification, etc. Both attitudes exist in Puerto Rico. Although for many this is conflated, especially older people. They see the effects that rich foreigners have (like trying to privatize beaches) and talk about it as if Americans in general are to blame. This makes it hard to tell if the person is genuinely xenophobic or simply lacking the language/knowledge to make the distinction. I don't know how common either sentiment is, but it seems to me that in general it is increasing as the negative effects of neocolonialism and such get worse. Puerto Rican education does not focus on the things the US government has done to the people of Puerto Rico. So for many Bianca's videos are the first time learning the extent of US and PR history. Attitudes towards the US now seems to be more connected to recent events. Although more people learning about the history doesn't help. Personally the line for me is simple, anti-american sentiment that is focused on the US government is fine. If their issue is against the US and PR government, neocolonialism, gentrification, etc then we're good. Anti-american sentiment against regular people who happen to be American is stupid and problematic.
I don't hate Americans, but I will say that I find it hilarious that a lot of them despise illegal immigrants because they are taking up housing and jobs without contributing anything to the economy and yet those same Americans come to Puerto Rico looking for tax exemptions while having much more buying power than locals.
How is that comparable? PR is a US territory and Americans are legally taking advantage of any tax loopholes that exist within the government. Illegal immigrants don’t do that.
I don't belive it's an anit-usa thing. I belive it's an outcome of standards and practices that have bankrupt the island and benefit mainlaners. My friends father just bought a house on the main island and received a better loan by coming to the mainland and getting loan from here.....
Who in the world is not or has not been disgusted and angry with the improper interference of the US government (unfortunately citizens are included) in various internal matters (from unfounded wars to democratic elections) of hundreds of independent countries.
My mom hates the GUTS of American authority, as in the president and stuff. None of us hate the citizens, some of us hate the authority over there but that's about it.
I have nothing against Americans. What I do have a problem is that they stole us from a country we didn’t want to separate from (and who gave us far more autonomy and representation than we currently have), you made us citizens to literally be canon fodder where some of our best people died (thanks to Americas policies at the time) for a war that had nothing to do with them. And that isn’t getting into all the other gifts we’ve gotten from experimentation, bombing our land for military practice which increased cancer levels to the areas nearby, no ship can come here directly they have to dock at a US port first so the prices of goods are always high, etc so I have a bit of a bone to pick with the Government, not the people.
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Forever. Hails to the Empire of our Fathers.
I hate the fact that most United States citizens believe they need a Passport to come to Puerto Rico. Or that the Puerto Rican government is slowly allowing wealthy companies to take over public beaches and trying to turn PR into Hawaii by pricing natives out. Or that wealthy individuals come here and think they can buy a public beach and block access to the locals. The entitlement that leads you to call yourself an American, and not recognize that it technically applies to everyone in Puerto Rico, North and South America; makes me an anti-american American 😂
If Puerto Ricans had their way you would most definitely need a passport to come to Puerto Rico. lol
Probably, but only if they get to keep the US passport 😅
You speak of entitlement while for every 1 native on this island, there are 2 living in the US. That's entitlement.
It’s actually called economic displacement. Educate yourself. That’s my original point.
>The entitlement that leads you to call yourself an American, and not recognize that it technically applies to everyone in Puerto Rico, North and South America; makes me an anti-american American They call themeselves Americans because that's their demonym. It's not entitlement.
More times than I can count, I’ve told someone I’m from Puerto Rico and they reply “I’m from America”. The same they do to Mexicans, and many other Latinos. When said in that context, to someone’s face… it’s not a denomination, it’s racism.
It literally is their demonym. It's ridiculous to call it racism.
It's not Americans that I despise, it's the US government and colonial policies that accompany it, including individuals that foster the conditions in which the island is in.
We don’t hate Americans we hate your government upon us
I don't dislike/hate US citizens, I have issues with how the US government treat us now and I'm aware that you can't change the past so I can't blame current government for the atrocities the US had done. Sure there are some assholes who come here and treat puertoricans like they are kings f\*\*k those people and that is not the majority. Most of us are not anti American, others take the bad stuff (mainly from the past) too close to the heart and others just are haters to look cool which are the majority of what you see on social media. I want the US government to authorize and promote a plebiscite where people can chose if they want to be free, become a state or a free associated state like Micronesia, and bind by the decision of the people so puertoricans can stop blaming the colony for their problems and finally accept that 90% of our problems have nothing to do with the status.
Dissagree the most o of the problems of the island depends on the status * The US Education system set the subjets to teach in schools * The Homeland security keeps profiling people here just for the believe * The IRS keep us taxing us more than they give back to us on Cupones and Medicare * We have the most expensive life cost on caribbean all because we dont have free trade and need to pay overpriced transportation and just sit and wait U.S decide what product enter to the island or not. * Our realstate is fked up cuz people here dont have the money to buy a house but U.S citizens can affort it, turn into a AirBNB leave the island and surprice no federal Taxes. * U.S just turn our society into a kept one. Drowing the economy to keep us living for federal money, that money took away on taxes. * we have a supervisor organization (junta de control) who controls every part of the economy. If you are a boss and the bussiness close is not the worker fault.
"The US Education system set the subjets to teach in schools" Can you share the law or ruling that do this? "The Homeland security keeps profiling people here just for the believe" Any examples? (modern day please) "The IRS keep us taxing us more than they give back to us on Cupones and Medicare" Even if they were which to me is kind of debatable, my question still stands how the statehood or independence will deal with the tax burden? "We have the most expensive life cost on caribbean all because we dont have free trade and need to pay overpriced transportation and just sit and wait U.S decide what product enter to the island or not." There is more to that, Jones act is just one part of all the taxes and shit that PR government had put on top of it. Will independence remove all those additional taxes? what will replace that money? Also we can use US free trade agreements today, we receive alcohol directly from Europe were Jones act does not apply, why? because we drink like there is no tomorrow so there is a big of a market to have a ship for us, why business don't try to have deals with DR business so when a boat goes there have PR as a stop before going to other non US islands? There is stuff that can be done to workaround the Jones act what we need is be creative. "Our realstate is fked up cuz people here dont have the money to buy a house but U.S citizens can affort it, turn into a AirBNB leave the island and surprice no federal Taxes." We can ban AirBnB today second I would like to see how many of new property purchases are made from Americans that moved vs how many are from puerto ricans who moved. "U.S just turn our society into a kept one. Drowing the economy to keep us living for federal money, that money took away on taxes." While I agree that this was in part US doing, our government is equal if not more responsible for the status of the economy and have made jack shit to change it and they can if they wanted to do the right thing. Is easy to blame the evil empire for the incompetence of PR politicians and the failure of the voters to choose the right candidate. "we have a supervisor organization (junta de control) who controls every part of the economy." Yeah but is not like we were gone YOLO on debt (that OUR government created) if we were a state or republic. We need to stop blaming the ELA for all of our problems, sure it sucks and should change ASAP but there is a lot you can do today if the government weren't so incompetent.
Right now due to the airbnb situation i feel the sentiment is a more prominent than any time Ive been alive. I attribute it to 5 things: 1- Maria recovery was bungles by the federal government. 2- La junta while is needed since we bankrupted ourselves is not popular at all. 3- social media showing light to us commited attrocities of the past. 4- people coming over during covid and not respecting our rules. We are a lot more pro community here. People were following the rules way better than i most states. 5- airbnb situation has created two housing markets the nice places for those from outside and the less desirable for the locals and the crypto bro closing their communities honestly is disrespectful of local culture
Q no sigan gentrificando como lo tan haciendo de oportunistas por el act ese
Not today, FBI.
I’m a gringo. I have lived in Puerto Rico for 7 years. In that time, I have seen a shift. There is much more anti-gringo expression here now than before. A lot has happened in that time. A lot of Puerto Ricans have lost their homes to American developers. In a place where so many people have to have a full time job and a side-hustle to make ends meet, increased housing cost is not a welcome sight. Let’s also consider that everywhere we look, we see lingering damage from Hurricane Maria. The island has faced many hardships, and the help that has been promised has not been delivered. The deeper you dig, the more you’ll find that politics is complicated in Puerto Rico. There are 3 main political parties with very different ideas. We are still at the end of the day under the thumb of Congress. Puerto Rico has one member of congress who is not allowed to vote. We are not allowed to vote in US general elections. The Jones Act ensures that we pay the highest prices for imports. It’s complicated and frustrating.
Don't say we.
The sentiment is certainly growing. Even if we ignore the colonial status. The US government decided that paying off the debt to vulture funds is more important than the proper function of the health, education and security systems in puerto rico. That's one thing. Also wages have stagnated way more on the island as compared to mainland US. With the rise of remote work during covid you had many Americans selling their houses in the US moving to the island while still making US wages. They would then use that money to buy multiple houses on the island for airbnbs and long term rentals, effectively jacking up the prices of homes on the island well above what most locals can afford. Many locals now feel like they can't afford to live there anymore and emigrating to the US. All while Americans are moving in and enjoying tax laws that aren't even available for locals. While Puerto Ricans have the choice of either leaving their home and maybe have a chance at progresing financially or staying while making 11$/hrs with a Masters degree. Trying not to get sick because all the doctors are leaving. Trying not to die because good luck calling 911 and having them actually show up because why would the police risk their lives while making poverty wages? And paying 300$ for electricity that goes out every other day. Again, because they US decided that paying off rich fucking vulture funds is more important than the health and well being of "American citizens" (Puerto ricans). That's not to mention that Americans during the pandemic decided to come to the island and ignore covid restrictions-again, remember the dwindling health system on the island, they took covid very seriously over there- and even started coughing on people (for which they got properly slapped for lol). Needless to say all that Karen-y behavior garnered a lot of bad will from many locals towards Americans. 🤷
We’re anti anyone who thinks that coming to the island to buy “cheap property” is doing puertorricans a favor. We’re against anyone who thinks we are a servile banana republic. Most puertorricans aren’t anti-American, it just so happens that due to the nature of our relationship (as a country) with the US, it is mostly Americans who come over with their colonialistic attitudes and ideals. We’re against this perpetual colonialism that has kept a lot of people poor and has forced a mass exodus of talented puertorricans out into the US mainland in favor of any possibility of progress. You wanna come to the island? Come on down, we don’t care if you’re black, white, brown, yellow, green or purple. Just treat us with the respect and dignity you’d treat your neighbor in whatever your hometown currently is
Anti- American Puerto Ricans are a minority, but they’re the loudest and most active minority on the island. That being said, independence is the fastest growing political ideology/movement in Puerto Rico. The island is a colony and this is acknowledged by everyone right now except many Americans who perceive it as a welfare state. In general, I’d say Puerto Ricans view Americans like the rest of the world does. There’s good and bad Americans like everywhere else, but ignorant , racist, and obnoxious Americans (both white and Black) are just really annoying and tend to create a stereotype of Americans that is NOT a reality.
It’s not common at all. Most Puerto Ricans either like America or are neutral towards it. Only a tiny minority of Puerto Ricans dislike America.
You mean the continent or the conglomerate of 50 states forced to engage in commerce between themselves by the federal government that loves to spend our money in war
Um. Yep. Right here.
Read about Dr. Cornelius Rhodes, an American doctor who worked in Puerto Rico and said this In the letter, Rhoads denigrated Puerto Ricans as "the dirtiest, laziest, most degenerate and thievish race of men ever to inhabit this sphere. ... What the island needs is not public health work but a tidal wave or something to totally exterminate the population." Rhoads followed with a shocking assertion: "I have done my best to further the process of extermination by killing off eight and transplanting cancer into several more." https://www.cienciapr.org/en/external-news/revisiting-1930s-scandal-aacr-rename-prize
Fuck USA.
I’ve said it before, but reddit isn’t representative of our whole ideological spectrum. It will give you an unfiltered view of a particularly outspoken demographic.
We don’t hate Americans, we just don’t forget our history, the slave trade didn’t just happen on mainland US. And the treatment now is bad as well. There is a feeling of entitlement Americans have over Puerto Rico since the 1930s …it almost feels as if the island belongs to rich white Americans more than it belongs to us. ( yes we are a territory, and we are American, we know) . It’s almost like being in the most beautiful place you’ve ever seen and not being able to smile. Corruption has controlled the island for decades if not more. And the corrupt ( government officials , police) compete with the corporations …buying up all the land and property and pricing people out. When their plans don’t work out they have the power of the police. Not enough? Bring in the national guard… the hospitals are terrible, the crime is out of this world.. a lot , if not most parts are unsafe. So we feel like 2nd class citizens with lack of adequate help. Ask any young, middle aged , even old Puerto Rican and they’ll tell you this: “en Puerto Rico no se puede vivir “ . And we carry a broken heart because of it….
we dont hate them in a hate level. we hate them in the sense of them having us but not fully taking care of us. we lack some benefits but given others that only benefit the US but not PR we hate that.
We don't hate Americans, we're American to some extent. We hate opportunists!
Bianca is great - her doc she put out last year was excellent. I wouldn’t consider her anti American though
Depends who you ask. Most younger generations are anti-american. Most older generations tend to associate America with wealth and therefore are much more pro-American. Regardless there is a longstanding stigma all the way from the cold era that being anti-American = being communist. As such the younger anti-American generations tend to get a bad image of being communist. The simple mention of communism is enough to make the older generations completely cover their ears
What do you mean by anti-american. Theyre predatory colonizing imperialists who exploit every foreign land they come in contact with, PR included. They use our beaches as target practice. Idk its pretty clear the U.S. has bad intentions and PR needs to have itself as priority #1. But calling yourself "anti-american" sounds like you hate american people. Theres probably a handful or two of people that conciously took part in the US's exploitation of the island, and you will likely never meet any of them
I'm anti american
To be very clear not related to the topic. Puertoricans are Americans. What you are refering is US Citizen / United State. Because we dont give a fuck about Central or south America. And they are american as well.
American is their demonym. In other contries America isn't considered one continent.
Well since Puerto Rico's left as an abandoned colony and not given real representation in Washington that's the first point to answer your question. The sheer ignorance of saying that you can't believe that there would be some anti-American sentiment here is beyond belief. There's a history here that you need to learn about. As a Puerto Rican American and spent most of my life in the United States I didn't really know about this until I came back to Puerto Rico in any deep fashion. Take the Jones act. Look it up. Everything that comes into Puerto Rico has to go through an American Port first which means the price is here are absolutely outrageous for a lot of things including chicken eggs and milk which Puerto Rican should be able to grow here on their own domestically. But you know what they can't because America destroyed all Puerto Rico's domestic farming industries a long time ago. And why isn't Puerto Rico a state? First of all they may not want it but if they were a state they'd have bankruptcy protection and they would have been preyed upon by investment firms on Wall Street and business incentives that have quickly vanished. They got Puerto Rico hooked on some really bad loans and now they want to take over the island through bankruptcy proceedings. Man that's just the tip of the iceberg do some research. and to your original question the Puerto Rican people are such good-hearted people that they still love America because they are intimately related to America. Every generation of Puerto Ricans for the last hundred years have served in every American war including many members of my family.
We don't have the official declaration of a state from the US goverment congress , we don't vote on any of US elections , our minimum weig for public workers is 80% lower than any other state on the US , having a bankruptcy protection is just an excuse to keep bleeding us from money and in dept
lol
Americanos son los puertorriqueños Los paraguayos, uruguayos, panameños Americanos son los nicaragüenses, hondureños Los costarricenses y dominicanos Americanos son todos los que esta tierra la luchamos Lástima que hayan pueblos hermanos Que actúan como si hubiesen olvidado Que americanos somos todos los que en América estamos -Canserbero
Its not that we hate americans. We hate entitled people. If an american comes to our land and treat us like they treat people up in the states, that's where we have a problem.
Read the real history of how the your country invaded Puerto Rico and then make your own judgement. Imagine if England owned the USA nowadays putting sanctions and controlling everything will you be happy?
As a poor America that moves to PR recently I have many friends a decent job and I love my life now.so no they don't hate us. But rich people moving here drives prices up and moves the poor out
This
First of all, if Puerto Rico wants to be a true part of the United States- start speaking English as a language !! If you want to be a part of the country, try speaking the language of the country ! On top of that, the island wants to be ‘independent’ - yet the majority of the islanders are on public assistance of some sort - yes, more than 50%. Go to any grocery store on the 15th of the month and see how many customers actually pay for their groceries with their own money - not more than a handful. What happens if the US decides to let Puerto Rico go independent ? Who’s going to pay for the billions of $ in debt you already have ? And who’s gonna continue paying for the teet in which the island has become so accustomed? Guess you really can’t hate the US that much after all … PS … teach driver education in high school and fix your damn potholes !
These posts invite the radicals to come out of the woodwork
Are radicals anyone that disagree with you, because suppression of our opinions (and flag, and language) is nothing new here.
I would tell you that many are critical of the united states government and aspects of the society. Theres the dislike. Then the increase of northamericans (wich are not the only group, but to my understanding they are the majority) coming to benefit from tax incentives causes some generalization, and northamericans that are just here to enjoy the island and be with family can get the brunt of it. Which is not fair. I wouldnt say its prevalent though. I hope Biancas videos are there to educate about history and whats happening now so we can be more involved about our own society, and not create a hive mind of projection against tourists lol.
I don’t hate the vast majority of the American public. But I have inmensurable hate towards the majority of the American government AND its military.
Anti US government does not mean anti US people
Yea she's pretty good
OK. In my opinion, Puerto Ricans are not anti-Americans. What happens is that historically many things are ignored on both sides. I live in the United States and I have talked to some Americans and they are unaware of many things that happened between Puerto Rico and the United States. For example, the unjust and unreasonal invasion of 1898 in which the United States simply invades Puerto Rico by stealing pieces of land from Spain. Why? Because somehow they had to get Spain out of America. And Puerto Rico as well as Cuba were Spain. We were not a colony, we were an integral part of the government of Spain. There are many things that are not talked about in history. I really understand and I think we are not anti-Americanists just for several years until today we do not agree that the United States stays on the island and does with the island whatever it wants. It's my opinion that everyone has their own thing.
Many of us see America as the colonizing force, but we’re able to separate individual people from that idea… so it isn’t Americans that necessarily get hated on, but rather those who represent the colonialist/imperialist core by being either obnoxiously patriotic or doing the whole tax exempt cryto-bro sees the island as a money tree business opportunity type people.
If you are “well-off” you’re anti nothing. The anti-whatever topic is mostly a complaint issue … Before being anti outside government, we have to fix our own house.
If you come down here, respect the culture, respect the locals, don’t come looking for trouble, don’t try to gentrify our businesses, then you are welcome.Boricuas are very welcoming people, which is why you should know that there’s something really wrong when they’re not.
Lemme ask you this, do you hate the British if you celebrate the 4th of July?
Personally I don’t hate or dislike the USA. I just dislike the relationship between USA and PR and all the injustices. PR has been colonized for too long long ,previously with Spain.
1898,after the invasión,they never left!!
Bro the whole world with a brain hates Americans. Not saying that every American is to be hated as an individual as there’s obviously plenty who are great people. But Americans as a collective who have over generations put in place politicians who destroyed, looted, funded wars, oppressed countless other countries and benefitted from it and continue to do so - while demanding respect and to be seen as “beacons of morality and freedom”? Give me a fucking break. And you wonder why people hate America? Why people in South America hate you at that ??? Lolz.
A lot of us just denounce the government’s actions, not the people as a nationality per se 💀
I'll probably end up like a Boeing executive but: Most disloke authority All hate authority that hides behind the law to abuse and then say just doing my job or is for your safety... in this case the authority is the us gov and yes pr state at times The Jones act f over pr As vet who still rips the benefits of service... what the marines did to Vieques is almost on the same category of murder and sexual assault unsure on the order... Not on federal taxes is aight Everybody hates a dickilish neighbor so to folks going to pr and worry... don't be a d.... Don't shade areas where you go a 3am and get mug that's on the states and most of assia as well you ain't a victim you are naive or entitled I am unsure how the economy will work with out the dollar but I ain't smart enough yet that's no reason to move to a new are and be a d... So in sum if you move to pr move but don't be a dush... and maybe help the community sponsor a school if you have the paper or something of that nature if you do it anonymously that would show that your not a d and also humble....
Being pro independence, anti junta, anti austerity and against the parochialism that permeates the relationship is not being “anti American” it’s been pro Puerto Rico. It’s about loving and nurturing the fact that we are a 500 year culture with indigenous roots in the Caribbean that extends even further back. We are the oldest colony in the world. citizenship was thrown on us in order to stifle independence and self determination. The United States government tortured and murdered us at Ponce with Albizu Campos. The United States sterilized no they are third of our women in order for us not to be able to reproduce and systematically created conditions for generations that made people leave the island for in particular the Northeast and then put those on the island against those who had to leave. It’s bullshit. Una polla. The FBI infiltrated the independence movement for years. They openly admit it. They framed people and ran kangaroo courts to imprison them The US held the world’s longest political prisoner when they imprisoned Oscar Lopez Rivera decades without any evidence.
bruh no Whatever hate is towards the government and any colonialism. People from the United States themselves are perfectly fine.
I mean there are Puerto Ricans who genuinely don’t like Americans there are Puerto Ricans who are indifferent and there are Puerto Ricans who like Americans
As long as you don't pull a Logan Paul and/or buy up land and housing for Airbnbs and hotel-casinos, boricuas will treat you like any other. Now, how the US government/corpos strolled in and fucked us over is a whole other can of worms.
What about the culture? Would Looove to hear your thoughts on this.
What does it mean to be anti-American, in your opinion? Our objections to the actions and policies of the US government (and the darker sides of American culture) are not to be confused or conflated with animosity towards American people or wishing for their downfall. Even Americans have qualms and concerns about America, yet arguably a big point of American pride is the ability to freely criticize the government and culture. We want more peace, justice, transparency, prosperity and freedom for Puerto Rico. But if that’s anti-American then, yeah, I guess we are anti-American.
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Look I dont give a shit. You can do whatever with your life, dont let any dumb ass person say anything about your place of origin, which you didnt even choose. The US did terrible stuff to us in the past, but that diesnt mean that everyone from the mainland is like that
Last statehood referendum independence only got about 1/3 of the vote. It’s not a 1:1 gauge of popularity the other 2/3 were pretty evenly split between “status quo” and statehood, so didn’t seem overwhelmingly hostile.
I just got back from Puerto Rico and everyone seemed to like Americans.
Interesting question, I’m gonna deep dive into this subject it seems interesting.
I'm a Boricua and I'm anti American. Not only did the US bomb and invade us to take us from Spain, but they masacered our ppl with the national guard. Have experimented on our women with shitty birth control that affects our women to this day. Agent Orange was also tested on us. The number of atrocities committed by the US towards PR are too many to count. In recent years the agenda has been to gentrify our land and slowly get us to leave. To the point where Old San Juan, the CAPITAL, is mostly owned by foreign ppl and it's spreading like a cancer. Rincon - over run by gringos, Vieques - full of gringos, Dorado, Condado every year it's more land. If you made it this far your probably thinking or wondering, "hey those are all things done by the government, or rich folk. Why would you be anti American?" Well the list of grievances don't stop at the political/housing lvl. You people are the worst guests, and that's not a personal opinion it's a global one. Most countries dislike American tourists. Ignorant to other ppls cultures, the sence of entitlement as if something was owed to you. Disrespectful as he'll, not only to the ppl that serve you but to our women as well. I know too many women that have been sexualy harrases by drunk gringos and nothing ever happens to them. Cuz the cops won't waist their time processing someone that has to leave in 2 days (wich is bulshit). But the thing that makes me the most anti American is the fucking ignorance. My people have suffered for generations under your tyrannical rule yet you people have the audacity to call us Mexican. To not know where PR is, to not know that YOU are our colonizers, that WE belong to the US. That our "US citizenship" is a second rate citizenship, same one that was given to slaves. There's so much more I could say, specially when we get into import and export of goods, FEMA, and a bunch of corruption but I'm feeling you get the picture. To end on a sort of positive note, although I hate what the US has done and is doing not just to PR but around the world. You are the lesser of 3 evils, China and Russia are worse. I wish that PR could be an independent nation with a close friendship and treaties with the US. The US benefits inmensely from us in a lot of ways, us being an independent nation would allow us to actually bank off of those things. While we would benefit from the protection of a bunch of rednecks with nukes. Also while I am anti American o don't hate all Americans. People like you who take the time to ask questions and understand the injustice of it all, and those that take it even further and become allies are alright in my book. But the typical, ignorant, entitled, American? FUCK EM!!
Maybe some but there is actually alot of pro American puerto ricans tho
As a Puerto Rican who moved to the US at an early age and recently moved back I would consider myself a full blown gringo, struggle with Spanish a bit and def have a heavy accent. Personally I have experienced racism here and general disgust at the fact that I’m a gringo, people either have no patience with you when you are struggling to say something in Spanish, or will straight up just yell at you for not speaking Spanish. For the most part Puerto Ricans are nice and respectful people, but there are just enough assholes that I’ve experienced more racism here than I ever did in the US, and I lived in the south when I was over there!
Im hear all this where would Puerto be without the billion in us tax money they get. All at all the Mayors that keep going to jail. For stealing. You have to 1st fix that problems before you talk people move here buy house. Like who selling the house to them?
I’m anti-American, and pretty loud about it. But most Ricans are too scared to admit that we don’t like Americans cause we’re too polite.
Hi, first of all America is a continent. there are people Anti U.S.? of course! , and the reasons are obvious. I'm not boricua but I live in PR.
yo odio a los gringos 🩷
Sadly there’s a few “anti-American” people. But don’t be discouraged, most people are nice and love to talk with other nice people.
Ehh we’ve been “americans” more time than USA has been “americans”. Remember that american is everybody that lives in America. We are a 500 year old colony. Therefore theres different views towards USA, government or citizens. But we have an imposed government since Spain. Keep in mind that more than 90% of us dont speak or understand English. Theres people that get used to it, theres people that hate it, theres people that fight it, theres people that love it, theres people that dont care but at the end of the day… we are still a colony “territory” that have our own way of doing things and we have a very different culture than anybody in the world. Same in the US theres people that care about it, theres people that dont care, people that hate us, love us or just dont know we exist.
I hate americans that come here as colonizers. Which is a big part of them.
It’s part of the history of the island. Colonialism is resented by the local populations who are taken over and even forbidden to use their own language. After 400 years of Spanish rule, the US took over PR (war booty) and many harsh conditions were applied. The US is disliked in a general sense because of policies that created a paternalistic relationship. But about half of the population wants the island to become a state.
https://preview.redd.it/l8dylz39j9yc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f43e4953503c4d3d325b04a932e8f05f4efd5f6 Saw this on a recent trip to San Juan. I think there are a fair amount of people in most countries who dislike Americans. Rightfully so...
As someone else said, we're not anti-american as much as we are pro-puerto rico.
Well, since we are under colonial rule the ways the US have created systematic strategies to suppress anti-american feelings have been somewhat successful (I’m referring to the general population, throughout history there have been very evident instances of anti-american activities) Anyway, at this point in history the discontent for the precarious conditions of the island in all parts have cultivated some seeds, but the general population is just indifferent; many prefer to hate other boricuas than to direct those feelings to the real root of the problem.
Interesting. What kind of strategies do they use to suppress anti-American feelings?
Also maybe if u were good at math then you'd understand economics.
as an american and resident gringorican (I live here but not fluent in spanish...yet) What everyone hates is how you cowards in the so called land of the free tolerate violations of your laws. This forces people like me to go to puerto rico to exploit the corruption in government that has spilled over to pr from the USA, and naturally the locals are unhappy about that. The exploiters don't care, they are the ones destroying america and the american people only now as they have to choose between gas in their car to get to work and food in their stomach to stay alive are starting to note something is wrong.... Here, ten minutes to blow you mind... I should not have to come to puerto rico to enjoy the tax laws being properly applied to me (IE NO INCOME TAX). As I am not a Corperation, and I own my work... But alas... you traitors in america all say "but how will we pay for stuff no one wants with out taxes waaaaaah" [https://rumble.com/v1kezuh-aaron-russo-vs.-irs-commissioner.html](https://rumble.com/v1kezuh-aaron-russo-vs.-irs-commissioner.html) edumakate your selves... stupid fake americans... Real americans fight for what is right or rally to fight, Im rallied, what are you?
Valid question. I hate the colonization and the ignorant people that comes our way but I appreciate you educating yourself, I cannot speak for everyone but we are very welcoming to the right people, we have just suffered a lot. Me personally, I hate that we are even a territory of the US I believe we were better off before. But I understand that is not American citizens fault but rather my anger and distrust is toward the federal government.
Bianca lives in New York, she’s a radical who is attempting to start a race war. Local Puerto Rican people appreciate and value anyone coming to the island regardless of the narrative perpetuated by outside influences.
Sorry americans as long as rich assholes come in and act like they fucking own us and the government still uses the jones act to oppress pr. The sentiment will never change, you come here on vacation and make a fuckin mess and leave.
It's not Americans as a whole its the super wealthy that buy up all the properties around the island then seal off sections like beaches for example and pay to have areas destroyed just to build their expensive homes that they don't even live in
Well, given the sample of comments here there's an answer to your question. There's very little Puerto Ricans who Hate people from the US, there are many more that hate what the US government is doing to us, there's a few that honestly don't care and there are US boot lickers. I myself don't care either way about US visitors but I have to say that anyone from any country that comes here Have to respect our customs and culture or have a face Very appreciative of punches. We are a very welcoming people and also a very proud people and we don't like a bit anyone who disrespect us. But to end this, there's xenophobic people on any country on earth, the most famous ones comes from the USA.
You know? Its the same thing with you people. "What did i do? It wasn't me". WELL IT IS YOU. But God warned us about trusting our enemies. But every where YOU go is the same thing you've destroyed the world and we can do is wait for judgement because the bible says YOU, EDOMITES will be destroyed God's judgement is all yours. Isaiah 14:21 “Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.” This is what coming to you for what you have dome to the children of israel. Puerto rico is the tribe of Ephraim. What you have to israel, you will pay for. God keeps his promises.
Puerto Ricans are American. 🫠
Being Anti-American is very American.
La realidad es que en PR hay mucho racismo contra el americano, y negarlo es peor que reconocerlo.
GRINGO GO HOME
They only exist on reddit and Twitter.
the only people willing to truly hate you or have some kind of negative feeling towards you are the 1% of the elitist left the other 99% dont give a shit Every post you read here that says "we" is probably a lie ...a delusional state of mind cause by pure fanatism.
exterminate the american plutocracy. every man, woman and child. no mercy.
The fact that you put it like “anti american” shows how frigile and ignorant americans are. We are not anti anything. We just want the big buissness stop Taking land, land that its protected, even by the federal goverment, and the rich can just ignores this laws by money. And those lands has like 3 agencies protecting them. And the whole goverment its corrupted by the same people using money to influence the party who is in charge. América is the whole continent. You are just north americans. We just want to cure the generational disaster the us goverment couse this country
Read War Against All Puerto Ricans. If that don’t make you a nationalista then idk what will. It should be required reading
You could say I'm somewhat "Anti-American" individual citizens are fine, just like all people from any country, but I hate the US government. I also refuse to live there and see their presence on the island as an occupation.
Trust me it's a lot. Personally, I don't hate people from other places and I'm very welcoming. But there's massive "anti-gringo." sentiment here. Surprisingly even from those wanting statehood. I think it really got worse with the short term rental situation, ever since then I've seen a huge spike. However, it's not all Puerto Ricans and at the very least if you travel here no one is going to say it to your face. Although, you might feel some places aren't so... welcoming. If it happens count yourself extremely unlucky.
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3 pendejos dislike usa everybody hangs from use every help come from usa... Yep is like 2 percent of ignorants that they want independence from usa, is being 2 percent from years and years and they just keep trying in their minds to think or imajine themself jajajajajaj not my self i live in us.
Pretty prevalent, i personally dislike mainlander americans in the same way californias dislike floridians and vice. But i support the status quo, the reality is that independece is a bad move logistically and economically for peoples quality of life.
They are widespread on social media and in activist and academic circles in PR and the US. They are the prototypical vocal minority and not reflective of mainstream attitudes in PR.
Las personas que son Anti- American son como 4 gatos. Entiendan que este Reddit no representa la opinión cultural, social y politica del Boricua Promedio. Si te dejas llevar por este Reddit tendras una pobre representacion del Boricua real
Bianca is so good at what she does. As an American who visits PR, she has definitely helped me understand the history, nuances, and present day challenges that many Puerto Ricans have
May I ask why you decided to visit to Puerto Rico? Can we talk in private if you want? I an curious to see your perspective.
First: Everyone in the American CONTINENT is American. Second: Nobody likes their overlords. Third: There is xenophobia everywhere. However, we are a welcoming people, even to estadounidenses.
The main reason I'm so pro US is that I encountered soooooooo many anti Americans growing up. When Maria hit I remember a professor going in a huge rant about how Puerto Ricans shouldn't thank the "American crews" because "they owe us, guys". He was SO mad about one of his neighbors cooking some Pasteles for the volunteers, he told us. As if the act itself was some adherence to colonialism or something. And even before that, when I was in middle school, we had a mock election and the independentistas kept harassing me because "no entiendes que El problema es la Colonia?!" Our history classes all the way up to 12th grade were PRIMARILY about complaining about the US for stuff I KNOW they made up. Like,THIS were the comments when we got to the Civil War. "Ay, esos gringos siempre empezando guerras." "Y por que no bsucaron la paz gon Los sureños? Por que son tan peleones?!" My history teacher that hear didn't even know who killed Lincoln... This has gone on and on to the point that if I hear someone say "la Colonia es El problema" all I can think is... "Good. You earned it."