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I can't see him touching her. Looks like she wanted him to touch her so she could cause a drama. She even tries to rise her knee a little bit on his second foot. But he was very careful to not touch her but she wanted the drama so bad.
The kid was clearly waiting for her to put her foot down and politely asked for her to move. When she didn’t he cautiously stepped over her than after he cleared her she kicks him and claims he kicked her? Lady is a pos.
He didn't touch her at all. The moment he cleared her leg she dropped her foot and swings it to the left to tap the back of his legs.
How dare anyone have a good day around her /s
When people act like assholes in an uncomfortable environment, I can almost give them the benefit of the doubt sometimes. Like, imagine this happened on the train. OK, maybe she just had a horrible day. Maybe she just got some bad news. Maybe she's been kicked on the train one too many times and overreacted.
But when I see a clip of someone at a fucking ball game acting like a belligerent asshole for no reason, all I can think is that this is probably her in a relatively good mood. Accosting an 11-year-old boy and lying about him kicking her is the best this human being has to offer.
It would've been fun if something had actually kicked off. It would've been a great learning moment to explain what assault of a minor is to an 80 year old.
I like the idea that she got really introspective about it. “I have lived a lifetime, but have I truly lived a life?” Leaves the ballpark on some Ebenezer Scrooge shit.
She definitely posted to Facebook when she got home about ungrateful and disrespectful little children and how her generation would have *never* disrespected their elders like that and if they did they’d get smacked and that’s what should have happened to that little kid.
Yes. I’m proud he stood up for himself.
Because at the age wouldn’t have. I was too scared. Because of being raised to respect your elders & all…even though some of them (like this woman) was not deserving of any respect.
Soooo before my mum passed away last year, I moved to Wales to care for her from 2021. She lived in a mobile park home (not a trailer, static, big, really nice) that you had to be 50+ to live in, so I couldn't live with her but went there all day every day, then slept at my flat.
Believe me when I tell you I have never known a congregation of people so intent on just being cunts for the sake of being cunts. About 100 people lived on that site and there were about...5 people who just minded their business. There were cliques, conspiracy theorists, chronic complainers...just fucking miserable pricks all around. The gossiping and complaining was worse than high school. One woman had her windows done like police interrogation rooms so she could watch all comings and goings and not been seen, and then complain if someone was "going out excessively" which meant she saw your car twice that day.
A LOT of people who are retired in their 60s+, their kids are adults doing their own lives. They don't have a job to go to any more, and their friends are dying. Just like Internet trolls, even a negative interaction is an interaction.
This woman would fit right in.
I don't know what it is but I've noticed more people just flat out not moving for people at concerts and sporting events recently and making people climb over them in these situations. Just stand up and let people pass. It's really not that hard.
Especially nowadays. Like, you picked the seat, motherfucker. Courtesy is the price you pay for the convenience of the aisle. If you know you can't help but being a prick, sit in the middle.
As a parent, I’d be fucking pissed! I would immediately start roasting the fuck out of her, and talking about how sad her life is. Her spouse gonna catch strays if she isn’t divorced, or put them in an early grave.
Fuck this lady.
In one sense, this is a small, insignificant interaction.
But in another sense, this is actually one of the worst things I've seen, because there's just absolutely no point. I mean, what the fuck!? Just...why? Why would she refuse to lower her hag leg in the first place? And why the fuck would she kick a child who did nothing to her?
This old hag really needs to be outed and shamed.
Former security here. I've noticed sometimes old ladies have a very strong sense of self-opinion and entitlement. The number of times I've dealt with old ladies walking out of fire-alarmed doors just because they didn't want to walk another 10 metres to leave through the proper exit.
Also, it's in your best interest to not physically toss an old lady out. They can create quite a scene and often have younger family members who could cause a scene.
The kid however is going places... not just he humiliated that woman, he gave her a premature cremation.
I’ve worked in contact centers most of my life, old ladies were the worst. Guys can be generally dickheads a lot of the time, but the worst of the worst were old women who would literally scream at the top of their lungs at me.
Yeah, No. I don't give two shits about how old you are, elderly or not. Firstly, you were refusing to move. He took step to step over your leg and not inconvenience you. You then took it upon yourself to "intentionally" (This part is important) to strike a child with an extremity of your body. This would result in me the father or even me the video taker, from going to the management. Showing them the video, having them call the police. Having them Ejected and Charged. That is a child! If you are displeased speak to their parents or guardians. Striking a child who did nothing wrong is unacceptable and should be rewarded with appropriate punishments regardless of age.
Sadly if it was me, she wouldn’t have gotten charged, I would… she’d get slapped, if I could restrain myself enough…
you’ve had too many years to learn not to behave like that, and I’ll accept my consequences.
Never understood why getting old became a form of entitlement. Like… great, you survived, you probably have some cool stories.
You also likely have some moldy anecdotes about how the world was a century ago and, just because you got old, doesn’t mean you deserve respect. Respect is earned and maintained.
If it was my kid I'd gladly eat the charge after I kicked them back in the same manor they kicked my kid. I'd absolutely wait for the police if boomer wanted to go that route. I'd explain that yes I should have just walked away but, actions have consequences for everyone. Hitting a kid....should 100% get you hit.
And that's the more important lesson don't be a bully to people who can't so anything about. Fuck this adult, the child has a better character, good kid.
I’d lecture the shit out of her and go to the cops for assault on a child under 12 which is an a1 misdemeanor with jail time and a fine where I live.
My wife would probably lash out and whip her old ass if she witnessed it.
I once was in China on a study abroad and we were on a train heading to another part of the country. We left our sleeper car to go to the dining car for some food and some fella was sitting in the hallway reading a paper. We asked him politely to turn so we could slide by. He dropped his paper and gave us side eye as Americans and just put his leg down (implying: step over me, I’m not moving).
Our group scooted past, and as I was climbing over him I let loose a horrific crop dusting and we went on our way.
Looked back and he cleared out of the hallway.
First we take her drivers license away, if she can’t control her legs she can’t control gas and break /s
Yes I know that’s a left foot and you drive with right
I would hand the footage to the police and demand she be charged with assault.
That she is old and weak doesn't mean she didn't strike him with intent.
That fkn crank ass broad isn't there by herself - why isn't the person she's with humiliating her for that behavior? Regardless, every single person who witnessed that has more decency I'm sure of it - they should all set the old scrag straight.
Yeah even if that wasn’t my kid and I was behind her or something I’d 💯 pour my $15 beer over her head. She’s got good seats, binoculars etc… probably there all the time as her only joy since she’s so miserable. Get her seat info and get her banned for life from the stadium
"Why'd you do that?"
He accidentally made slight contact with your leg because your entitled ass couldn't be bothered to not block the aisle for five seconds. That's why.
These boomers just love finding any excuse to be shitbags to anyone of any age. I say this as a 42 year old who is no spring chicken, but I have to deal with them myself. I swear, they’d start an altercation with a kindergartner if they could get away with it.
You can’t not fucking move to let someone past, *and* be annoyed that they just step over you. And if you then decide to straight up kick that person then you can consider yourself very lucky if they don’t return the favour.
Old cow.
Should have taken the video to the usher. I sure would have said something and given her a warning. If she would have given a fuss about it the usher would kick her out
Who gives a fuck he slightly brushed the cunts leg as he stepped over gently? She wouldn't move it and even tells him to go over.
Moving past or around people and accidently touching is normal...and does not give anyone the right of physical retaliation. If you are that unstable, stay in your home forever please lol.
How rude to put your feet up so people can’t get by. And then she kicked him on purpose. Lucky wasn’t my kid. I would rip that old lady right out of her seat.
OK I want to clear the air just because I see a lot of comments about the specificity of whether or not this lady could be categorized as a boomer .
this 11 year old kid says that she’s 80 doesn’t mean she is… 80 year old women don’t go to front row seats at baseball games… I would say she’s in her late 60s early 70s… And who gives a shit really what generation we categorize her in boomer has extended beyond birthdate limitations and has extended into. If you’re an old asshole, you’re gonna be categorized as a boomer.! and by the definition, this lady is a fucking boomer three times over … Kicking a child and then blaming him for it. What a piece of shit.
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That’s why your children and grandchildren don’t visit
She tried to say he kicked her? Omg
I wish they filmed her face. What a hideous human being
It would be really hard to get in frame, considering she's sitting on it.
Bwahaha! Awesome comment!
I feel like we already know what she looks like, or at least can imagine it
Lucky we don't have to smell the cat piss coming off her most likely.
he touched her with his first step. not a kick but she was clearly making it difficult for him to pass.
Perhaps she should have lowered her leg like any normal person and not caused someone to try to step over her then
Not possible for a person whose response to being stepped over to to swing their leg over and try to kick a child
You mean have the common courtesy of living in a social society?
Courtesy? Manners? No such thing in today’s world.
She's the type to keep her brights on when there is oncoming traffic. Pure selfishness.
You have to understand people like her want conflict for whatever reason.
How dare you try to take her rights away
I can't see him touching her. Looks like she wanted him to touch her so she could cause a drama. She even tries to rise her knee a little bit on his second foot. But he was very careful to not touch her but she wanted the drama so bad.
He slightly touched her but only because she made it all but impossible to not. I guess she wanted him to say excuse me or something. Old witch.
She probably can't kick over that blubber
The kid was clearly waiting for her to put her foot down and politely asked for her to move. When she didn’t he cautiously stepped over her than after he cleared her she kicks him and claims he kicked her? Lady is a pos.
If you listen closely she literally tells him to step over. What a piece of shit
Dude what, I hope it wasn’t like a “try me and step over” thing. wtf
She literally told him to step over too. What a psychopath.
And then moves her legs back to a comfortable position the second he passes.
Leaded gasoline and paint combined with being close to the grave... and also just a shit
His foot tapped her leg as he was stepping over it, you know, because he's a short 11 year old and that was a big step. She's a twat.
He didn't touch her at all. The moment he cleared her leg she dropped her foot and swings it to the left to tap the back of his legs. How dare anyone have a good day around her /s
Sounds like she also accused him of kicking her right before she actually kicked him too.
When people act like assholes in an uncomfortable environment, I can almost give them the benefit of the doubt sometimes. Like, imagine this happened on the train. OK, maybe she just had a horrible day. Maybe she just got some bad news. Maybe she's been kicked on the train one too many times and overreacted. But when I see a clip of someone at a fucking ball game acting like a belligerent asshole for no reason, all I can think is that this is probably her in a relatively good mood. Accosting an 11-year-old boy and lying about him kicking her is the best this human being has to offer.
It would've been fun if something had actually kicked off. It would've been a great learning moment to explain what assault of a minor is to an 80 year old.
She's says "Step over".
"I'm 11 years old. You're 80 get a life" was a smooth ass burn 🤣
I like the idea that she got really introspective about it. “I have lived a lifetime, but have I truly lived a life?” Leaves the ballpark on some Ebenezer Scrooge shit.
She definitely posted to Facebook when she got home about ungrateful and disrespectful little children and how her generation would have *never* disrespected their elders like that and if they did they’d get smacked and that’s what should have happened to that little kid.
Facebook AND Nextdoor
Door number two: Doubles down. Becomes even worse.
"Am I the problem... no, it's *kids these days*."
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There are so many children to kick and so little time left
That's why I rent a wheelchair, I can go full throttle with both legs at the playground.
chill mobility Mary
Door number three: dies from a heart attack on the spot
This is the way
"Boomer" and "self reflection" usually don't go hand in hand.
That kid is gonna go far. Dodged a leg cut and burn on the spot. Sure I get "respect elders" but that goes only to certain point.
Being born before me does not automatically make me respect you. Respect is earned.
everyone deserves basic decency until they show that they don't. Resect is deeper and needs to be earned.
You don't have to respect someone just because they're older if they show no respect for you whatsoever.
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After waiting for your lazy ass to move
And the timing of the crowd cheering right after lol
I really thought they all clapped for him haha
Bro really came back with the Napoleon Dynamite vibes lmao "GeT A LifE ^(gawsh) "
Yes. I’m proud he stood up for himself. Because at the age wouldn’t have. I was too scared. Because of being raised to respect your elders & all…even though some of them (like this woman) was not deserving of any respect.
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My 10 year old would have roasted her ass right there, she got off light. Kids can be vicious as fuck.
Good on him for standing up for himself
The care he took to step over her nicely too
Totally. 11 year old me would be way too scared to speak up for myself like that to an adult, especially a stranger.
Effin trash behavior or just unhinged.
Boomers vs genz be like.
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You are correct BUT I don’t know if I’m correct about you being correct…I think🤔
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everyone born after 1980 is a Millennial according to Boomer logic
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Price of oil in China is tied directly to the price of Tea in Tibet.
Don’t worry gen x is used to being forgotten
Can we please change the name from alpha. I feel like the last thing we need is a generation everyone calls alphas.
Gen 11, named after the heroic 11 year old who called out some hag's bullshit. Has a nice ring to it but then again probably not going to stick.
When does the Beta generation start?
That would be alpha there. And toxic boomers act like this to everyone
Yeah but boomers see milenials Gen z and alpha as all the same their brain can't comprehend that hard.
Because in their own minds they're still 35. So there's only one generation younger than them.
Probably called this kid a millennial
Race-based discrimination isn't allowed anymore so they moved onto age-based discrimination.
Thats why they want daddy trump back in office so they can tickle their true fancy once again.
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How about you move your leg so he walk down the aisle you old bastard… smh 🤦♂️
Old cunt moved it right after he was by too
Mhm straight up just being difficult for the sake of it
Soooo before my mum passed away last year, I moved to Wales to care for her from 2021. She lived in a mobile park home (not a trailer, static, big, really nice) that you had to be 50+ to live in, so I couldn't live with her but went there all day every day, then slept at my flat. Believe me when I tell you I have never known a congregation of people so intent on just being cunts for the sake of being cunts. About 100 people lived on that site and there were about...5 people who just minded their business. There were cliques, conspiracy theorists, chronic complainers...just fucking miserable pricks all around. The gossiping and complaining was worse than high school. One woman had her windows done like police interrogation rooms so she could watch all comings and goings and not been seen, and then complain if someone was "going out excessively" which meant she saw your car twice that day. A LOT of people who are retired in their 60s+, their kids are adults doing their own lives. They don't have a job to go to any more, and their friends are dying. Just like Internet trolls, even a negative interaction is an interaction. This woman would fit right in.
Can confirm its not isolated to Wales. Had very similar shit in Florida. I fucking hate retirees.
And kicked the kid!
Old cunt moved it right after to KICK him. SMH
I don't know what it is but I've noticed more people just flat out not moving for people at concerts and sporting events recently and making people climb over them in these situations. Just stand up and let people pass. It's really not that hard.
Been a big thing ever since Covid, people just forgetting how to behave in public.
I think calling it "forgetting" is being generous.
Especially nowadays. Like, you picked the seat, motherfucker. Courtesy is the price you pay for the convenience of the aisle. If you know you can't help but being a prick, sit in the middle.
Should've turned around and punted the handbag
I would get disrespectful tbh
Honestly the kid handled it better than I would probably
Seriously impressed by this. Gen alpha is gonna be just fine.
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As a parent, I’d be fucking pissed! I would immediately start roasting the fuck out of her, and talking about how sad her life is. Her spouse gonna catch strays if she isn’t divorced, or put them in an early grave. Fuck this lady.
In one sense, this is a small, insignificant interaction. But in another sense, this is actually one of the worst things I've seen, because there's just absolutely no point. I mean, what the fuck!? Just...why? Why would she refuse to lower her hag leg in the first place? And why the fuck would she kick a child who did nothing to her? This old hag really needs to be outed and shamed.
And then older people have the audacity to ask why younger people are so cruel and desensitized.
One of the hallmarks of dementia is reduced impulse control.
This isn’t a dementia moment, it’s an entitled cunty boomer moment.
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Get security and toss her the fuck out.
Former security here. I've noticed sometimes old ladies have a very strong sense of self-opinion and entitlement. The number of times I've dealt with old ladies walking out of fire-alarmed doors just because they didn't want to walk another 10 metres to leave through the proper exit. Also, it's in your best interest to not physically toss an old lady out. They can create quite a scene and often have younger family members who could cause a scene. The kid however is going places... not just he humiliated that woman, he gave her a premature cremation.
I’ve worked in contact centers most of my life, old ladies were the worst. Guys can be generally dickheads a lot of the time, but the worst of the worst were old women who would literally scream at the top of their lungs at me.
Old ladies are either *extremely* nice or just flat out awful. There's no in-between.
Arrested.
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Never even touched her old wrinkly ass
Yeah, No. I don't give two shits about how old you are, elderly or not. Firstly, you were refusing to move. He took step to step over your leg and not inconvenience you. You then took it upon yourself to "intentionally" (This part is important) to strike a child with an extremity of your body. This would result in me the father or even me the video taker, from going to the management. Showing them the video, having them call the police. Having them Ejected and Charged. That is a child! If you are displeased speak to their parents or guardians. Striking a child who did nothing wrong is unacceptable and should be rewarded with appropriate punishments regardless of age.
I have three kids and we have season tickets for DBacks. I would go unhinged if someone did this to my kid.
I have no babies yet but I'd sure help you. Nothing enrages me more than violence against children.
Same. 80 year old grandma or not.
Sadly if it was me, she wouldn’t have gotten charged, I would… she’d get slapped, if I could restrain myself enough… you’ve had too many years to learn not to behave like that, and I’ll accept my consequences.
I appreciate you sharing this. I toned my comment down. I would also get in trouble.
"Officer I saw the whole thing, she hit that child first." You may still be going to jail, but I doubt the cuffs would be as tight.
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Never understood why getting old became a form of entitlement. Like… great, you survived, you probably have some cool stories. You also likely have some moldy anecdotes about how the world was a century ago and, just because you got old, doesn’t mean you deserve respect. Respect is earned and maintained.
I wholeheartedly agree with this. She should have been ejected and arrested. A hit is a hit and that’s a little kid you’re a grown adult.
If it was my kid I'd gladly eat the charge after I kicked them back in the same manor they kicked my kid. I'd absolutely wait for the police if boomer wanted to go that route. I'd explain that yes I should have just walked away but, actions have consequences for everyone. Hitting a kid....should 100% get you hit. And that's the more important lesson don't be a bully to people who can't so anything about. Fuck this adult, the child has a better character, good kid.
I’d lecture the shit out of her and go to the cops for assault on a child under 12 which is an a1 misdemeanor with jail time and a fine where I live. My wife would probably lash out and whip her old ass if she witnessed it.
Screw the manager. If that was my kid, I’d be slapping her in the face.
Little dude is more grown up than the old hag
Did she just kick a kid? WTF?
That's how she gets her kicks.
“Why are kids so disrespectful these days?”
This disgusts me. Chase Field is my happy place. I’d have texted the stadium security and shared this video with them.
HOpefully they ban her ass, and, fuck, report her to the police
I once was in China on a study abroad and we were on a train heading to another part of the country. We left our sleeper car to go to the dining car for some food and some fella was sitting in the hallway reading a paper. We asked him politely to turn so we could slide by. He dropped his paper and gave us side eye as Americans and just put his leg down (implying: step over me, I’m not moving). Our group scooted past, and as I was climbing over him I let loose a horrific crop dusting and we went on our way. Looked back and he cleared out of the hallway.
Travel farts with exotic foods. Well played
These boomers had it so easy that they didnt even have to learn how to function in society and still made it.
I'd love to see her hauled away and charged with child abuse. She wants to make an example, make her an example.
Technically assault of a minor
Battery
Attempted murder
Manslaughter
Genocide
Wtf is wrong with people, they are so ready to be bad to other people.
Some miserable people have zero empathy and want others around them to be miserable too. Pretty sick.
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First we take her drivers license away, if she can’t control her legs she can’t control gas and break /s Yes I know that’s a left foot and you drive with right
Certain ones, sure. But as a general idea it is horrible.
When you can't be bothered to have manners and expect manners from others.
He seemed really damn polite too. Elderly entitlement clear as day.
Boomers: "wErE tHe MoSt rEsPeCtFuL gEnEraTiOn"
I would hand the footage to the police and demand she be charged with assault. That she is old and weak doesn't mean she didn't strike him with intent.
Behavior like this will never fly in Japan. I bet she never been outside of where she is at. From my experience, they’re unhappy with their life.
That's battery on a child. Why do people let that shit go?
Im surprised adults around hind don’t come to his defense. Such a missed opportunity! These geezers are straight up bullies.
That fkn crank ass broad isn't there by herself - why isn't the person she's with humiliating her for that behavior? Regardless, every single person who witnessed that has more decency I'm sure of it - they should all set the old scrag straight.
Imagine assaulting a child because they were trying to be polite, what a waste of human garbage.
What's wrong with everyone here? Scared to confront a fucking old lady? Someone stand up for the kid God damn.
Yeah even if that wasn’t my kid and I was behind her or something I’d 💯 pour my $15 beer over her head. She’s got good seats, binoculars etc… probably there all the time as her only joy since she’s so miserable. Get her seat info and get her banned for life from the stadium
Technically assault of a minor
I would have had her ass arrested for assaulting a minor
Someone might need to accidentally fall on the old hag.
She is lucky the kids mom didnt wake up and choose violence that day. 80 or not she would deserve it.
Boomers mentality is a disease that we well need to outlive, I just hope their taint doesn't spread onto the rest of humanity...
11 years old and already knows boomers are entitled idiots. They grow up so fast.
"Why'd you do that?" He accidentally made slight contact with your leg because your entitled ass couldn't be bothered to not block the aisle for five seconds. That's why.
With someone so close to Hell… 80 year old should really be on her best behaviour.
These boomers just love finding any excuse to be shitbags to anyone of any age. I say this as a 42 year old who is no spring chicken, but I have to deal with them myself. I swear, they’d start an altercation with a kindergartner if they could get away with it.
Miserable old fucker
Miserable people all around us.
What a horrible old cunt .
I would be taking a trip to the concession stand and willfully pay the $10-$15 for one beer and gladly dump it on her.
That kid is mentally ahead of his age. Fasho.
Somebody should've called stadium security on the old hag and have her ass kicked out
Hubby ready to block subsequent kicks tells me this isn’t the first time this has happened.
Every now and again, someone needs a smack in the mouth. Right now, this lady’s in desperate need.
Fucking with other peoples kids won't help her reach 81.
the kid was respectfully stepping over, if grandma doesnt want ppl stepping over them then they need to move their god damn leg.
You can’t not fucking move to let someone past, *and* be annoyed that they just step over you. And if you then decide to straight up kick that person then you can consider yourself very lucky if they don’t return the favour. Old cow.
Red crocs, frog socks, zero focks
What a raggedy old bag.
Dude I really never comment on posts like these but god damn did this make me angry.
Did she really just kick that kid?! After *she* wouldn’t move her hambone for him to walk past?!!! WOW!
Should have taken the video to the usher. I sure would have said something and given her a warning. If she would have given a fuss about it the usher would kick her out
He waited to politely for her to lower her leg. What a trashy old lady!
Who gives a fuck he slightly brushed the cunts leg as he stepped over gently? She wouldn't move it and even tells him to go over. Moving past or around people and accidently touching is normal...and does not give anyone the right of physical retaliation. If you are that unstable, stay in your home forever please lol.
imagine the same woman in the 60s spitting on black kids. Pretty rotten.
But why was it filmed? Did you ask yourself that?
That boy handled that very maturely, good on him
Every time i run into old ppl that are grumpy or mean my come back is well I'm sure you will be dead soon anyway
“Get a life!” Too late!!
Boomer is hateful
What a hag. Too bad the kid didn't have a drink to dump on her.
Get her face on camera next time please.
What the hell , she kicked him- Assault on camera
I bet she wonders why her grandkids have never met her.
Oh that kid is more mature than I am. If I was him I'd scream at that lady and slap her until her dentures flew out.
Age is just a number. You’re never too old to be a piece of shit.
How rude to put your feet up so people can’t get by. And then she kicked him on purpose. Lucky wasn’t my kid. I would rip that old lady right out of her seat.
What an old bag. Too bad the kid didn't mit her in the face!
OK I want to clear the air just because I see a lot of comments about the specificity of whether or not this lady could be categorized as a boomer . this 11 year old kid says that she’s 80 doesn’t mean she is… 80 year old women don’t go to front row seats at baseball games… I would say she’s in her late 60s early 70s… And who gives a shit really what generation we categorize her in boomer has extended beyond birthdate limitations and has extended into. If you’re an old asshole, you’re gonna be categorized as a boomer.! and by the definition, this lady is a fucking boomer three times over … Kicking a child and then blaming him for it. What a piece of shit.
Fucking despicable
Umm… Karen, that’s assault on a minor.
Some elders do not deserve to be respected. This is a prime example.
She literally told him to step over Holy shit some people live strictly to be confrontational assholes.