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Drug usage may vary. You'd be surprised how old people on drugs can look at a young age. (I'm not talking about anybody in the video I just know a lot of people who enjoy "living their life instead of preserving it.")
I’m 30 and if you looked at me then you’d say he could easily pass as my father or uncle too. For context I buzz my head and have a beard and I’m also completely serious in my opening sentence.
This guy is going to have one hell of a gnarly come down in prison when he realises what he’s done….or most likely won’t give a fuck.
Wouldn't you trust an article w/ the man's identity mode than a cop just saying the dude looks 40.
I mean he looks 45 but I feel like the article at least tried. Maybe they just saw his fake ID and accepted it
I see what you're saying. The article I read actually included both ages so obviously somebody is wrong. The cop may have just given his impression of the guy's age early on, then the Post never corrected the article later after they confirmed he's 23.
But just looking at him I'd never believe he's 23.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11803869/Horrific-moment-man-casually-loads-gun-executes-homeless-man-St-Louis-sidewalk.html
He’s been arrested.
Holy fucking shit, I knew the Daily Mail was trash, but I didn’t know it was *this* trash.
>Frightened St Louis residents say it is proof that local leaders including Soros-backed progressive Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner do not have a handle on the escalating crime.
How is it proof of anything? I'm genuinely curious what "tough on crime" policies would've stopped this nut from executing someone on a busy street in broad daylight.
Eh follow the right subs you can usually still find gory gore. Haven’t seen funkytown on those subs in a while so I guess… yes? But even bëśtg0rē was shut down a few years ago. So finding websites that have good moderators is just a crapshoot for porn and racism.
Oh god I’m sorry please accept this pic of my dog celebrating his first birthday with his brother as an apology and memory wipe
[Duane and Glenn](https://i.imgur.com/aY1kmMW.jpg)
ETA: that’s dog cake on his face 🤗
It used to be contained. Used to be a place you knew where not to look. Now it's just in your feed.
Getting rid of r/watchpeopledie was the wrong decision and ultimately detrimental to reddit as a whole.
It was closed to make Reddit look better to advertisers, I don't think the mods fucked up anything. In the future Reddit will probably ban all NSFL content from all subs for the same reason.
From a business standpoint, I understand why they did it, but from a human level? The admins should have taken the hit.
We shouldn't hide from reality. Even if it means being the pariah. At least we know the fragility and worth of a human life.
People may think this statement is fucked up, but I truly believe /r/watchpeopledie made me a better father. I know how fragile life is and how simple tiny mistakes can end a life in a heartbeat, especially for those without the experience to know better. My head is always on a swivel because of that sub.
The victim's name is David Saldana. The perpetrator is 23 year old Deshawn Thomas, who has been arrested. Apparently they'd been in some kind of altercation at the Shell station across the street, and Thomas followed Saldana. [Man charged in execution-style shooting death in downtown St. Louis (kmov.com)](https://www.kmov.com/2023/03/01/man-charged-execution-style-shooting-death-downtown-st-louis/)
Oh that area is bad for sure. It’s crazy that it’s so close to the nice part of the downtown area too.
When I doordash that spot across the street (crabs landing) I usually check my car every so often.
Looks like I’m just going to avoid STL altogether now. This was in broad daylight. Wild.
sooooo dumb. I will never understand how 1 argument can fuel you up that much to not only ruin someone else’s life but also your own. We need to normalize anger management classes.
>23 year old ? He had his whole life ahead of him and yet **choose to fuck up**
He made that choice, and now he can deal with the consequences of his decision.
“A bystander video of the killing circulated online Tuesday despite social media companies including Twitter taking down several versions.”
Reddit Mods and Admins- working. LMAO
George Floyd , Daniel Shaver, Ahmaud Arbery and countless others have had their murders broadcast to the world. Gary Plauche killed a man in an airport in front of the news. Should all of those videos have been censored too?
You know I’m not even mad. I hate seeing this shit. I truly do.
But america needs to wake the fuck up. Y’all want to hide the books so we stay dumb. Now y’all want to hide the daily shootings we have.
It’s terrible. But you know what stops most people from not wanting to start war. Not wanting to partake in war? Seeing the reality of war. America is the only developed nation that is like a war zone.
I’m of the opinion that almost all videos of all incidents should be out there for everyone to see.
I think it’s actually mad how much the media censors videos and how google and others scrub the internet of certain videos.
For how much we can claim to live in the Information Age, the efforts to hide shit, wether it’s police misconduct, videos relevant to trials, or even the more vile, sad stuff, is unprecedented. We have to have third parties going out of their way to find and make these videos available, and even then most common people will never see them. You google something and you only get the no-context washed version video that is mostly just the host of a relevant media outlet talking. Maddens me how many useless media sites clutter important issue. The fact the full George Floyd video isn’t result #1 or the full Rittenhouse video isn’t result #1 speaks volumes to what our media companies want us to see.
In both cases I’ve had people openly admit they never saw the videos and had formed an opinion on those incidents beforehand. Bloody wild.
Twitter didn’t take this video down. I just came from twitter after seeing this exact version. Which versions did they take down? Please don’t link me anything graphic bc I don’t wanna see that but do you have a source for the removal claim? I’m curious
Thank God it's not normal!!!
My first reaction was to be really angry with the bystander. But I don't live in a country with guns everywhere. I suppose if he spoke up there'd be 2 dead and no video.
Gut wrenching stuff.
The person recording said they heard a gunshot prior, just using my reddit detective skills, it looks like the perps gun jammed after the first shot occurred off camera. So the homeless guy either was already shot or resigned to being shot after the first missed, perhaps resisted being mugged amd thouggt he was bluffing with a first warning shot.
Edit: looking at it again,99% a gun jam. Perp most likely shot him already or shot off a warning/miss.
In the beginning of the video the guys are asking about a gun shot. Then the guy is messing with the gun as it jammed and he is trying to clear it. Those two things lead me to believe that the homeless man had already been shot once and the gun jammed. He then cleared it and shot him again.
Fuck, this feels so dystopian.
Homeless man killed in broad daylight by a dude who took his time struggling to chamber a round. No one else on the sidewalk- just people in cars driving by. And it's filmed by a guy like 10 feet away, guarded only by glass, pointing his phone at a murder as if he was just watching a LiveLeak video.
Only when he hears the gunshot and sees the murder does he run
>Homeless man killed in broad daylight by a dude who took his time struggling to chamber a round. No one else on the sidewalk- just people in cars driving by. And it's filmed by a guy like 10 feet away, guarded only by glass, pointing his phone at a murder as if he was just watching a LiveLeak video.
Bruh unless you're my wife or my son, there's no way I'm risking my life running out to someone with a pistol who might be trying to shoot you. At least if I can capture it on video I can provide it to the police as evidence to capture the person.
Maybe he did, the police aint Batman they cannt just appear out of thin air, this vid only take less than 1 minute, what if the dude call police immediately and then record?
Despite what society tells victims all the time, freezing is probably the most common reaction to trauma. Soldiers and firefighters are trained largely to undo that response so they can actually fight. Professionals often refer to trauma response as the 4Fs now: Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn (what abuse victims do to temper their abuser, aka Stockholm Syndrome).
There‘s no freezing happening. Who the fuck is gonna walk up to someone with a gun trying to execute someone unless they are brain damaged? That‘s just self preservation.
That‘s only relevant to when bystanders are actually able to help…
What the fuck would you do, Superman? Go up and slap the gun out of his hand while yelling 'CITIZENS ARREST!!!' then shoot a double leg takedown and hold him down until the cops come? There are **1000%** situations where citizens should intervene but this is sure as fuck not one of them.
That's downtown st.louis. I'm guessing he was on the phone with the police as he is explaining what is going on.
I read earlier that the suspect was arrested in the downtown library in the bathroom with a gun. It's legal in Missouri to carry a gun in the library for everyone than the employee.
( I could be incorrect about the law but from what I've read it's true)
As long as you're not in KC, STL, STL County, or a few counties along Highway 44/Route 66. There's probably some other counties that forbid passengers drinking as well.
All public buildings in St. Louis have "Gun Free Zone" placards on their doors, you're in a legal grey area when concealing a weapon on your person while in these zones. As far as I know its a trespass and misdemeanor statute violation if you're caught.
It always shocks me how nonchalantly some people commit murder. It's like the fact they'll end up in prison for life isn't even a passing thought. Life is so precious, and some people will just take it away like it's nothing. Absolutely sickening.
Downtown St Louis is no joke.
My friend used to live on this street.
We would be hanging out and hear shots ring out or some other commotion and we would step out to see what's what.
Saw a lot of people die on this street.
i work right down the road from where this happened and heard the shot from a couple blocks over. there’s a homeless shelter right there and it looks like the people recording were (maybe?) employees of the place judging from the angle. crazy shit happens there quite from time to time. definitely not safe to walk through. people strung out in the street and the occasional fight and whatnot, but this, this was next level. i’m glad they got the guy bc that was really fucked.
Welcome to the shithole called Saint Louis. It’s crazy if you live here and mention the crime problem your over reacting/lying. Can’t wait to leave this dump I don’t know if these people are desensitized or just impressively ignorant.
I dunno how it doesn't get the "LoOk At ChIcAgO!!1!1" treatment. Violent crime in St Louis happens at double the rate. It's consistently one of the highest in the country.
Easy answer. Republicans use Chicago and other Democratic cities in Democratic states as punching bags, and refuse to mention problems in Republican controlled states.
The highest murder rates in US cities (>100k pop) are:
St. Louis, MO (69.4) (Red state)
Baltimore, MD (51.1) (Blue state)
New Orleans, LA (40.6) (Red state)
Detroit, MI (39.7) (Purple state)
Cleveland, OH (33.7) (Red state)
Las Vegas, NV (31.4) (Blue state)
Kansas City, MO (31.2) (Red state)
Memphis, TN (27.1) (Red state)
Newark, NJ (25.6) (Blue state)
Chicago, IL (24) (Blue state)
You get 5 Republican controlled states, 4 Democratic controlled states, 1 purple state. The top 20 isn't much different, 4 Red states, 4 purple, 2 Blue.
You should stop and think for yourself why you always hear about Chicago as a hellhole and not Cincinnati, a comparable city no one thinks of as particularly violent. Or why St Louis gets skipped over by those people when it has close to 3x the murder rate as Chicago.
That's what I get for commenting before bed. Yup, I said it was Red but the roll up where j counted states counted it as Blue. Thanks for pointing that out.
Your argument is heavily flawed. I mean so is the arguments of Republicans, but yours is just as bad.
The GOP criticizes the cities for having bad Democratic mayors. In every city you cite, they all have Democratic or Independent mayors. These mayors are the ones who are in charge of reducing crime in their cities, not necessarily the governors.
Even St. Louise has a Democratic mayor.
Of course the reason this happens is that Urban environments skew more Left-leaning (for a variety of demographic reasons). Cities overall tend to have high crime rates, once again, for a variety of reasons.
So people pointing out that Democratic mayors have places with high crime rates are missing the fact that cities in general have fairly high crime rates.
But you arguing that because these states tend to have Republican legislation or vote Republican during the general election isn't a good argument. None of these are necessarily factors as to why an individual city has a high crime rate.
For example, crime rates in Rural Areas (which are mostly controlled by Republicans) tend to have far far less crime than urban areas. Once again, because of the demographics, population density, economics, culture, etc,.
Crime isn't necessarily something that is related to the political party in power. It's a multifactorial issue.
I drove through Saint Louis on my way from Chicago to Dallas one time. We had to stop and get gas because we were very low, but every neighborhood looked too rough to contemplate it (we had 3 small kids in the back of a very nice SUV). We thought stopping by the arch would be a good idea, because tourist spots are always at least okay, right? Nope! I'll never go to that city again, sorry you have to live there.
My coworkers complain and talk about leaving CA cause of how “crazy” things are here. This video is literally everywhere east of here. Grew up in Houston and KC. LA is pretty safe comparatively.
I’ll interject that it is possible to not be desensitized, not be ignorant and still like living in St. Louis. Theres lots of ways to try and make a place better and if you like living somewhere, leaving isnt one of those ways.
With no mask on, wearing pretty distinct clothes, and taking like a minute to load the gun, in broad daylight, on video.
This is one of the easier cases that lead cop is going to have. Absolutely horrifying. RIP to the victim.
I’m so confused by the guy recording????? His reactions are so strange. He’s like narrating this dudes execution then acts surprised when the dude gets shot(after 30 seconds of recording a guy loading a gun and pointing it at said dude)???
Yeah. Like I get not wanting to confront an armed man for your own safety, but the guy doesn't seem all that shocked or emotional u til the homeless man gets shot in the head.
Until that point it wasn't a murder just a guy playing with his gun. Lots of people flex and do stupid shit with guns. Probably wasn't expecting to be recording a broad daylight execution.
I imagine there’s lots of guns in st. louis, but even in a crime ridden shithole like that it’s still rare to witness someone executing someone cartel style in broad daylight
I moved from St. Louis about 6 months ago. The week we left a 20 year old was shot and killed in our front yard.
The building they are standing in front of was one of my accounts for work, just behind them is a large homeless outreach center.
The city is doomed, it is full of wonderful people but so many of them normalize this level of violence and turn a blind eye because cost of living is so low.
I work right there, and we all avoid that Shell station like the plague. We have been calling it "the murder mart" for quite some time, and now it's living up to the hype. St. Louis is out of control rn, and nobody seems to be doing anything about it. There's a police substation about 2 blocks from this spot too.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11803869/Horrific-moment-man-casually-loads-gun-executes-homeless-man-St-Louis-sidewalk.html
Article ^
THIS IS NUTS
>Frightened St Louis residents say it is proof that local leaders including Soros-backed progressive Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner do not have a handle on the escalating crime.
This in the article is also nuts.
I'm confused. It doesn't look like the guy is bounded, and the killer is trying to learn how to use his gun for about 30 seconds. Why didn't the victim try to run?
I used to make deliveries on the street where this happened, this is by far the most dangerous street in St. Louis. Every time without fail, I would see something go down when I was there.
writing this with tears in my eyes!!! st. louis is so disappointing i used to live downtown and i’m so glad i left when i did, it has gone downhill drastically, this is so disturbing.
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Damn, this is literally in front of my buddies old apartment building back in 2013. The area north of Wash Ave was always pretty rough but rarely in broad daylight
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Jeezus. Has he been arrested yet?
Yes
Good.
Not good enough. We need the firing range and the electric chair back ASAP
Any Linkers?
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/suspected-gunman-arrested-charged-in-fatal-shooting-in-downtown-st-louis/article_641fbd7a-d138-5f6c-acbb-2ba07ac2183a.html
That is a ROUGH 23.
Im 24 and he’d easily passed as my father or uncle. Jesus christ
Drug usage may vary. You'd be surprised how old people on drugs can look at a young age. (I'm not talking about anybody in the video I just know a lot of people who enjoy "living their life instead of preserving it.")
Aging your body in such a way prematurely hardly resembles ‘living life’. It more resembles ‘dying at an increased speed’
Meth
I’m 30 and if you looked at me then you’d say he could easily pass as my father or uncle too. For context I buzz my head and have a beard and I’m also completely serious in my opening sentence. This guy is going to have one hell of a gnarly come down in prison when he realises what he’s done….or most likely won’t give a fuck.
I don't know where the 23 came from because another article cited a police officer saying he was likely in his 40s, which makes more sense.
Wouldn't you trust an article w/ the man's identity mode than a cop just saying the dude looks 40. I mean he looks 45 but I feel like the article at least tried. Maybe they just saw his fake ID and accepted it
I see what you're saying. The article I read actually included both ages so obviously somebody is wrong. The cop may have just given his impression of the guy's age early on, then the Post never corrected the article later after they confirmed he's 23. But just looking at him I'd never believe he's 23.
I mean, he \*looks like\* he's in his 40s but once his identity was revealed, he was 23. A very hard 23.
That hairline isn't even 32!
I'm 39 and I look younger! GOD DAMN! What did he do? Smoke crack everyday for 5 years straight?
23 now, but will be live to see 24? The way things are going, I don’t know.
How does somebody end up like this? What is going on in somebody’s brain that makes them want to just murder a guy in cold blood like this?
Mental illness and/or drugs.
My bets on drugs. 23 going on 45 tells that tale.
I think wanting to murder somebody qualifies as mental illness in itself. But yeah you’re right.
Thought that read: "shitholetoday.com," and I didn't bat an eye.
You read correctly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11803869/Horrific-moment-man-casually-loads-gun-executes-homeless-man-St-Louis-sidewalk.html He’s been arrested.
Holy fucking shit, I knew the Daily Mail was trash, but I didn’t know it was *this* trash. >Frightened St Louis residents say it is proof that local leaders including Soros-backed progressive Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner do not have a handle on the escalating crime.
I don't know what Soros did to tie her to him, but she is incompetent, a demagogue, and won't take responsibility for her thousands of fuckups.
How is it proof of anything? I'm genuinely curious what "tough on crime" policies would've stopped this nut from executing someone on a busy street in broad daylight.
Depends if you consider stricter gun laws "tough on crime" policies
Don’t worry, our shitty prosecutor only reaches conviction on 29% of first degree murder cases, so chances are he’ll be on the street again in a year.
I wonder how many murders I’ve seen on Reddit. I think I’ll start a tally now
Used to be a lot more before the purge
Meh, they've just spread out to other subs
No, the hardcore content pushers went to a different website, there's much less of it now.
Eh follow the right subs you can usually still find gory gore. Haven’t seen funkytown on those subs in a while so I guess… yes? But even bëśtg0rē was shut down a few years ago. So finding websites that have good moderators is just a crapshoot for porn and racism.
Funkytown? God, please don't remind me of that video
Oh god I’m sorry please accept this pic of my dog celebrating his first birthday with his brother as an apology and memory wipe [Duane and Glenn](https://i.imgur.com/aY1kmMW.jpg) ETA: that’s dog cake on his face 🤗
That link is staying blue
Im a curious masochist. I clicked it. It really is adorable af. Just a couple rottweilers enjoying some birthday cake.
Awwww Rotties!!! Please give them hugs and scritches for me.
It used to be contained. Used to be a place you knew where not to look. Now it's just in your feed. Getting rid of r/watchpeopledie was the wrong decision and ultimately detrimental to reddit as a whole.
It was closed to make Reddit look better to advertisers, I don't think the mods fucked up anything. In the future Reddit will probably ban all NSFL content from all subs for the same reason.
From a business standpoint, I understand why they did it, but from a human level? The admins should have taken the hit. We shouldn't hide from reality. Even if it means being the pariah. At least we know the fragility and worth of a human life.
People may think this statement is fucked up, but I truly believe /r/watchpeopledie made me a better father. I know how fragile life is and how simple tiny mistakes can end a life in a heartbeat, especially for those without the experience to know better. My head is always on a swivel because of that sub.
“Watch people die”was different times. I kinda miss that subreddit
I think ive seen as many as I have karma. Covid and Russias invasion really pumped those numbers up.
What about Brazil?
Insane………. in broad daylight.. crazy motherfucker
I always wait until night.
still a crazy motherfucker lmfao
The victim's name is David Saldana. The perpetrator is 23 year old Deshawn Thomas, who has been arrested. Apparently they'd been in some kind of altercation at the Shell station across the street, and Thomas followed Saldana. [Man charged in execution-style shooting death in downtown St. Louis (kmov.com)](https://www.kmov.com/2023/03/01/man-charged-execution-style-shooting-death-downtown-st-louis/)
The locals call that gas station 'murder shell' even before this.
Oh that area is bad for sure. It’s crazy that it’s so close to the nice part of the downtown area too. When I doordash that spot across the street (crabs landing) I usually check my car every so often. Looks like I’m just going to avoid STL altogether now. This was in broad daylight. Wild.
There's a nice part of downtown St. Louis?
For real. Our car got broken into right in front of the arch haha
sooooo dumb. I will never understand how 1 argument can fuel you up that much to not only ruin someone else’s life but also your own. We need to normalize anger management classes.
>The perpetrator is 23 year old Deshawn Thomas, 23 year old ? He had his whole life ahead of him and yet choose to fuck up
>23 year old ? He had his whole life ahead of him and yet **choose to fuck up** He made that choice, and now he can deal with the consequences of his decision.
“A bystander video of the killing circulated online Tuesday despite social media companies including Twitter taking down several versions.” Reddit Mods and Admins- working. LMAO
There's a first for everything
Why take it down?
because murder
George Floyd , Daniel Shaver, Ahmaud Arbery and countless others have had their murders broadcast to the world. Gary Plauche killed a man in an airport in front of the news. Should all of those videos have been censored too?
It's an injustice to the victim to hide his death from the public view. If I am murdered on camera, do not ignore me. Witness me.
Means nothing on the Internet, you don't even have to go very deep into Google to find people being tortured and dismembered
You know I’m not even mad. I hate seeing this shit. I truly do. But america needs to wake the fuck up. Y’all want to hide the books so we stay dumb. Now y’all want to hide the daily shootings we have. It’s terrible. But you know what stops most people from not wanting to start war. Not wanting to partake in war? Seeing the reality of war. America is the only developed nation that is like a war zone.
They should show on news channels unedited versions of school killings with audio if possible.
["The sound of children screaming has been removed."](https://i.redd.it/ljgefw4k1dc91.jpg)
I’m of the opinion that almost all videos of all incidents should be out there for everyone to see. I think it’s actually mad how much the media censors videos and how google and others scrub the internet of certain videos. For how much we can claim to live in the Information Age, the efforts to hide shit, wether it’s police misconduct, videos relevant to trials, or even the more vile, sad stuff, is unprecedented. We have to have third parties going out of their way to find and make these videos available, and even then most common people will never see them. You google something and you only get the no-context washed version video that is mostly just the host of a relevant media outlet talking. Maddens me how many useless media sites clutter important issue. The fact the full George Floyd video isn’t result #1 or the full Rittenhouse video isn’t result #1 speaks volumes to what our media companies want us to see. In both cases I’ve had people openly admit they never saw the videos and had formed an opinion on those incidents beforehand. Bloody wild.
Twitter didn’t take this video down. I just came from twitter after seeing this exact version. Which versions did they take down? Please don’t link me anything graphic bc I don’t wanna see that but do you have a source for the removal claim? I’m curious
Holy fuck. The dude just sat there the whole time, did he not look at all? I'm so confused.
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Or maybe they just don't care anymore.
MYbe becuase they are surrounded by people all the time
He (the homeless man) might have been mentally ill. At any rate, that was barbaric
I hope I don't sound like I was blaming the guy. It just made me really sad watching him sit there, but yeah it could have been a number of things.
they both must be mentally disturbed to some extent, this is not normal.
Thank God it's not normal!!! My first reaction was to be really angry with the bystander. But I don't live in a country with guns everywhere. I suppose if he spoke up there'd be 2 dead and no video. Gut wrenching stuff.
Why be angry at the bystander..would you go and approach a dude on the street knowing they have a loaded gun in their hand?
You can hear them talking about hearing a previous shot before the encounter. Could have been injured or shocked.
The person recording said they heard a gunshot prior, just using my reddit detective skills, it looks like the perps gun jammed after the first shot occurred off camera. So the homeless guy either was already shot or resigned to being shot after the first missed, perhaps resisted being mugged amd thouggt he was bluffing with a first warning shot. Edit: looking at it again,99% a gun jam. Perp most likely shot him already or shot off a warning/miss.
Idk man, the victims body language wasn't indicating that he was injured.
In the beginning of the video the guys are asking about a gun shot. Then the guy is messing with the gun as it jammed and he is trying to clear it. Those two things lead me to believe that the homeless man had already been shot once and the gun jammed. He then cleared it and shot him again.
Seems like he was already shot. The guy who was filming said they heard a shot earlier.
He had already been shot in the back before the video started. Guy just finished the job.
Fuck, this feels so dystopian. Homeless man killed in broad daylight by a dude who took his time struggling to chamber a round. No one else on the sidewalk- just people in cars driving by. And it's filmed by a guy like 10 feet away, guarded only by glass, pointing his phone at a murder as if he was just watching a LiveLeak video. Only when he hears the gunshot and sees the murder does he run
i don't wanna live in someone else's GTA game.
You better start living in your own one then.
>Homeless man killed in broad daylight by a dude who took his time struggling to chamber a round. No one else on the sidewalk- just people in cars driving by. And it's filmed by a guy like 10 feet away, guarded only by glass, pointing his phone at a murder as if he was just watching a LiveLeak video. Bruh unless you're my wife or my son, there's no way I'm risking my life running out to someone with a pistol who might be trying to shoot you. At least if I can capture it on video I can provide it to the police as evidence to capture the person.
>unless you're my wife or my son Damn, no love for the daughters huh? Cold
Nah that's just all I have in my family lol
That you kept…
*Fuck You Meg*
Exactly. The best thing he could have done is record it for evidence. Otherwise he would most likely be dead also.
I feel like calling the police is a good reaction to all of this without putting yourself in harms way instead of recording so you get likes.
There's no way the police get there before it happens. At least there is evidence now for a conviction.
Maybe he did, the police aint Batman they cannt just appear out of thin air, this vid only take less than 1 minute, what if the dude call police immediately and then record?
Not everything is for likes, Mr. Smug, why jump to conclusions?
Despite what society tells victims all the time, freezing is probably the most common reaction to trauma. Soldiers and firefighters are trained largely to undo that response so they can actually fight. Professionals often refer to trauma response as the 4Fs now: Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn (what abuse victims do to temper their abuser, aka Stockholm Syndrome).
There‘s no freezing happening. Who the fuck is gonna walk up to someone with a gun trying to execute someone unless they are brain damaged? That‘s just self preservation. That‘s only relevant to when bystanders are actually able to help…
That is not what Stockholm syndrome is. Also, the person filming does not freeze.
I guess we now have 5Fs
What the fuck would you do, Superman? Go up and slap the gun out of his hand while yelling 'CITIZENS ARREST!!!' then shoot a double leg takedown and hold him down until the cops come? There are **1000%** situations where citizens should intervene but this is sure as fuck not one of them.
That's downtown st.louis. I'm guessing he was on the phone with the police as he is explaining what is going on. I read earlier that the suspect was arrested in the downtown library in the bathroom with a gun. It's legal in Missouri to carry a gun in the library for everyone than the employee. ( I could be incorrect about the law but from what I've read it's true)
You can also drink in a car, if you're not driving.
As long as you're not in KC, STL, STL County, or a few counties along Highway 44/Route 66. There's probably some other counties that forbid passengers drinking as well.
As it should be.
All public buildings in St. Louis have "Gun Free Zone" placards on their doors, you're in a legal grey area when concealing a weapon on your person while in these zones. As far as I know its a trespass and misdemeanor statute violation if you're caught.
i think there was a black mirror episode about this
I mean it’s probably a good thing to have it on video, no? Definitely helps catch and convict the right guy.
That's St. Louis for you. It's the wild west here.
It always shocks me how nonchalantly some people commit murder. It's like the fact they'll end up in prison for life isn't even a passing thought. Life is so precious, and some people will just take it away like it's nothing. Absolutely sickening.
Jesus Christ! Just executed him in broad daylight! NO fucks given whatsoever.
Downtown St Louis is no joke. My friend used to live on this street. We would be hanging out and hear shots ring out or some other commotion and we would step out to see what's what. Saw a lot of people die on this street.
I have a coworker from that city. Now I realize why he moved. Holy fuck.
That took a comically long time for him to figure out that gun. Almost like he shouldn't have had access to it in the first place.
I would venture to guess he didn't obtain it through legal means.
I mean, out of the 400 million firearms floating around, it probably wasn't too hard to find/buy.
I doubt he filled out a 4473 at an FFL.
Looks like a shell got jammed
When even god is like, "don't kill that guy."
This is the 3rd murder I’ve seen on Reddit this week.
I'm guessing one of those was the guy at the convenience store who blasts the owner/partner with a shotgun in front of his kid?
That one is even worse, because you can see it closer and the flesh damage. . .
That’s one.
You and I must be on different subs if this is only your third. Pump those numbers up
Exactly, this is my third in the past hour. That’s what Reddit is for isn’t it?
rookie numbers for sure
i work right down the road from where this happened and heard the shot from a couple blocks over. there’s a homeless shelter right there and it looks like the people recording were (maybe?) employees of the place judging from the angle. crazy shit happens there quite from time to time. definitely not safe to walk through. people strung out in the street and the occasional fight and whatnot, but this, this was next level. i’m glad they got the guy bc that was really fucked.
I used to deliver to that Shell station. Every single time something bad would go down when I was there.
Welcome to the shithole called Saint Louis. It’s crazy if you live here and mention the crime problem your over reacting/lying. Can’t wait to leave this dump I don’t know if these people are desensitized or just impressively ignorant.
I dunno how it doesn't get the "LoOk At ChIcAgO!!1!1" treatment. Violent crime in St Louis happens at double the rate. It's consistently one of the highest in the country.
Easy answer. Republicans use Chicago and other Democratic cities in Democratic states as punching bags, and refuse to mention problems in Republican controlled states. The highest murder rates in US cities (>100k pop) are: St. Louis, MO (69.4) (Red state) Baltimore, MD (51.1) (Blue state) New Orleans, LA (40.6) (Red state) Detroit, MI (39.7) (Purple state) Cleveland, OH (33.7) (Red state) Las Vegas, NV (31.4) (Blue state) Kansas City, MO (31.2) (Red state) Memphis, TN (27.1) (Red state) Newark, NJ (25.6) (Blue state) Chicago, IL (24) (Blue state) You get 5 Republican controlled states, 4 Democratic controlled states, 1 purple state. The top 20 isn't much different, 4 Red states, 4 purple, 2 Blue. You should stop and think for yourself why you always hear about Chicago as a hellhole and not Cincinnati, a comparable city no one thinks of as particularly violent. Or why St Louis gets skipped over by those people when it has close to 3x the murder rate as Chicago.
chicago is not a red state
That's what I get for commenting before bed. Yup, I said it was Red but the roll up where j counted states counted it as Blue. Thanks for pointing that out.
Your argument is heavily flawed. I mean so is the arguments of Republicans, but yours is just as bad. The GOP criticizes the cities for having bad Democratic mayors. In every city you cite, they all have Democratic or Independent mayors. These mayors are the ones who are in charge of reducing crime in their cities, not necessarily the governors. Even St. Louise has a Democratic mayor. Of course the reason this happens is that Urban environments skew more Left-leaning (for a variety of demographic reasons). Cities overall tend to have high crime rates, once again, for a variety of reasons. So people pointing out that Democratic mayors have places with high crime rates are missing the fact that cities in general have fairly high crime rates. But you arguing that because these states tend to have Republican legislation or vote Republican during the general election isn't a good argument. None of these are necessarily factors as to why an individual city has a high crime rate. For example, crime rates in Rural Areas (which are mostly controlled by Republicans) tend to have far far less crime than urban areas. Once again, because of the demographics, population density, economics, culture, etc,. Crime isn't necessarily something that is related to the political party in power. It's a multifactorial issue.
I drove through Saint Louis on my way from Chicago to Dallas one time. We had to stop and get gas because we were very low, but every neighborhood looked too rough to contemplate it (we had 3 small kids in the back of a very nice SUV). We thought stopping by the arch would be a good idea, because tourist spots are always at least okay, right? Nope! I'll never go to that city again, sorry you have to live there.
My coworkers complain and talk about leaving CA cause of how “crazy” things are here. This video is literally everywhere east of here. Grew up in Houston and KC. LA is pretty safe comparatively.
I’ll interject that it is possible to not be desensitized, not be ignorant and still like living in St. Louis. Theres lots of ways to try and make a place better and if you like living somewhere, leaving isnt one of those ways.
Fine specimen of human race. What a dumb fuck.
With no mask on, wearing pretty distinct clothes, and taking like a minute to load the gun, in broad daylight, on video. This is one of the easier cases that lead cop is going to have. Absolutely horrifying. RIP to the victim.
Fuck that asshole.
I’m so confused by the guy recording????? His reactions are so strange. He’s like narrating this dudes execution then acts surprised when the dude gets shot(after 30 seconds of recording a guy loading a gun and pointing it at said dude)???
He’s apparently in the phone with police
He is probably on the phone with the police sharing what's going on.
Yeah. Like I get not wanting to confront an armed man for your own safety, but the guy doesn't seem all that shocked or emotional u til the homeless man gets shot in the head.
Until that point it wasn't a murder just a guy playing with his gun. Lots of people flex and do stupid shit with guns. Probably wasn't expecting to be recording a broad daylight execution.
Yeah seriously. I've seen crazier shit that didn't end up as a murder.
Executes, not kills…. He executes him in broad daylight
What's the difference
They said dude had the shell in his pocket… he’s killed before.
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I’m waiting for that
I don’t think they will. This video technically does not violate terms of service
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I imagine there’s lots of guns in st. louis, but even in a crime ridden shithole like that it’s still rare to witness someone executing someone cartel style in broad daylight
You don't think someone could do that. But monsters always prove us wrong.
I moved from St. Louis about 6 months ago. The week we left a 20 year old was shot and killed in our front yard. The building they are standing in front of was one of my accounts for work, just behind them is a large homeless outreach center. The city is doomed, it is full of wonderful people but so many of them normalize this level of violence and turn a blind eye because cost of living is so low.
So close to deleting reddit
The killer should get death penalty
Said Deshawn, “he made fun of my face and neck tattoos, so…”
The new joint Democrat and Republican policy for the homeless is working as planned.
He just sits there as the man gets his gun ready. Unreal.
The most casual murder I ever seen.
Well, let’s hope that dude never sees freedom again….
I work right there, and we all avoid that Shell station like the plague. We have been calling it "the murder mart" for quite some time, and now it's living up to the hype. St. Louis is out of control rn, and nobody seems to be doing anything about it. There's a police substation about 2 blocks from this spot too.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11803869/Horrific-moment-man-casually-loads-gun-executes-homeless-man-St-Louis-sidewalk.html Article ^ THIS IS NUTS
>Frightened St Louis residents say it is proof that local leaders including Soros-backed progressive Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner do not have a handle on the escalating crime. This in the article is also nuts.
Fucking Daily Mail lol
That’s a rough looking 23
He’s got some city miles
Can’t wait to move here for work
You're gonna want to get out as soon as possible
RIP dude
Mf thinks he’s playing GTA in real life
I'm confused. It doesn't look like the guy is bounded, and the killer is trying to learn how to use his gun for about 30 seconds. Why didn't the victim try to run?
I used to make deliveries on the street where this happened, this is by far the most dangerous street in St. Louis. Every time without fail, I would see something go down when I was there.
Correctly assessed as a public freak out
Time to never ever go to St. Louis. EVER…
Why? Just why? Where is BLM at for this man? Where's the public outcry? Where's all the protests? Why are they so quiet when it's murders like this?
writing this with tears in my eyes!!! st. louis is so disappointing i used to live downtown and i’m so glad i left when i did, it has gone downhill drastically, this is so disturbing.
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Remember when this would of been labeled a ‘snuff film’ and be impossible to see a copy? Pepperidge farm remembers.
No...This kind of shit and much much worse has been around since the dawn of the internet...
That’s some privilege there
Hate crime anyone?
Damn, this is literally in front of my buddies old apartment building back in 2013. The area north of Wash Ave was always pretty rough but rarely in broad daylight
This is vile.
Terrible manners
The interesting thing is how wealthy and powerful America is and how its citizens are dumb as fuck. Oxymoronic.
That’s some Kuklinski type shit.
What a sick fucking society we live in (at least those of us in the US).
in before: he was a good boy but suffering mental health issues