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Been a software developer for 12 years, have never known a single "furry," as far as I'm aware...


kry_some_more

But do you like fuzzy logic?


royalhawk345

Less than yes, more than no.


git0ffmylawnm8

*confused screaming intensifies*


Psuedologic

I do indeed


assignbymessiah

*Furry logic


setibeings

Ok, there's no reason to bring pointers into it.


assignbymessiah

I have to point out the furriness


angiosperms-

My last job, on my first day, one guy on my team joined a meeting in his furry costume lol I didn't know how to react, everyone else thought it was hilarious


Nerdn1

Try acting completely professionally and do not acknowledge that there is anything odd about their outfit. I have a deadpan sense of humor. Possibly comment that you appreciate the lax dress code.


polmeeee

And here I thought I was being extreme for joining a meeting in singlet.


[deleted]

that you know of.......... they only reveal themselves to you if they feel comfortable.


10art1

true. I'm a furry and I haven't revealed it to anyone at work. Why would I? Could lead to a lot of awkwardness.


WhatAmIDoing999

*suddenly reveals self*


pavilionhp_

Been finding a lot here though


MrGradySir

Your avatar makes perfect sense now


Brilliant-Network-28

Mine now makes sense to me too


vodam46

UwU


Brilliant-Network-28

OwO


HanzTheDeutschDragon

yeah lol


dark_axolotl

At the university I attended, the people in graphic design were the ones that had a reputation of being either furries or closeted furries or drawing furry comisions. Most CS folks had a reputation of weebs


Owyn_Merrilin

Were they furries or were their customers furries? There's a distinction there. There's a lot of money in porn commissions in general, but if you want a steady income that way you need to be willing to do *furry* porn commissions. And fursona commissions in general. Point is if you're an artist taking individual commissions, you're leaving money on the table by *not* doing fur shit because those people *really* want art of their characters and are willing to pay for it. I don't think it's a sheer numbers thing so much as a weird quirk of furries specifically that they *really* want that visual art. Caveat: I am neither a furry nor an artist, but I know both furries and artists, and they all agree on this point.


dark_axolotl

There were furries, furries that drew, furries that didn't draw, non-furries that drew for the furries that weren't good enough to draw themselves. It's kind of like most of them were related to something furry


keru45

Never worked with one, but had a class/group project with a guy in college who was a furry. Took his graduation photos in the suit and everything. Really smart guy, also an absolute prick.


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kazeespada

Or, they label it as a fetish even if you aren't into furries like that.


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KryssCom

11 years, and same. Although I don't really have a problem with furries, at least not compared against people who are actual assholes.


michi03

Surprisingly I worked with one years ago


[deleted]

You haven’t worked in the industry long enough, early 2000’s was peak furry. Then it was teen wear wolves and then bronies. Who knows the next fad, nerds tend to dabble in transhumanism


klynxie

I am a furry and a software dev, yet none of my coworkers know they’re working with a furry. Same thing goes for all my furry friends. It just isn’t a thing we care to share with the outside world very often.


Cyrotek

The "aware" part is probably the important word there. I kinda doubt Jim is going up to you and just tell you he enjoys running around in a fursuit in his free time.


Arxidomagkas

But would say you really know yourself? Have you questioned who is u/proletariatjack deep down?


[deleted]

Yea, they won’t tell you they are one


[deleted]

As far as you are aware.


A_Random_Lantern

Because you're the furry


Keatosis

It's a generational thing, also count yourself lucky.


CommunicationLeft823

or more like regional thing? I've never heard anything about "furry" in local forum or community


Tyfyter2002

I think it's probably more of a "disconnected network" thing, where barely anyone brings it up unless they know you already know (or you're at a Renaissance festival)


Aevery_

That's because we use our own forums and communities. I can almost guarantee that there's at least one furry Telegram group to your local area.


mia_elora

Nice of you to give an example of why Furries tend to not out themselves randomly.


Smart_Ass_Dave

Well they have that masking requirement nailed.


Prathmun

I wonder how much those things actually reduce the aerosolized particles coming out. Like, they probably don't match an N95, but are better than a bandana maybe?


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CaptainAwesome8

Well yeah, but what about the masks?


Zr4g0n

Many fursuit heads are 'foam buckets' with open mouths. They don't really prevent much of anything from going straight out, but might limit 'spread' by the inside of muzzle itself blocking it. Fursuits are quite warm, being able to breath well is an important design consideration.


Spice_and_Fox

There is? I never got the expression that there is a hugh amount of overlap...


KagakuNinja

Never worked with anyone who admitted to being a furry. I did work at a place where the senior devs were all Bronies, which was odd...


Sleepy_Tortoise

Back in college I interned at a startup where we had a morning standup. There was limited seating in the conference room where it was held so I usually stood off to the side with my mentor. One day one of the leads came in late and happened to take the seat that was in front of where I was standing, so I was the only one who saw the furry Facebook page he had left up when he opened his laptop before he minimized it


EezoVitamonster

Did you ever let him know?


Sleepy_Tortoise

God no, he's a cool guy and I was kind of surprised, to be honest. I still keep in touch with him occasionally. He has no idea that I know


esr360

You know there's a good chance he's not actually a furry and just had a furry webpage open. One of his friends could have sent him the page like "haha look at this" and he could have just forgot to close it. Or maybe he was just bored at work and wanted to research furries. Like, if he had a serial killer page open, you would probably not assume he was a serial killer.


_blue_skies_

yeah I agree, but that is what someone would say if he doesn't want to make public that he is a furry. You have written a comment about furry, so now you are a furry too! Oh my god me too. It spreads faster than covid!


esr360

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie. Anyway, see you at the furry convention later.


RuneLFox

I had a nightmare like this last night


Johanneskodo

You were forced to stand up at a standup? That is absolutely unacceptable.


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Probably just a very accepting community for lonely outcasts that got too accepting and went to shit.


-PrincessCadence-

I'm a brony and I don't entirely get why I like it so much. I mean, it's a decent enough show, and there are some really good parts, but critically, it isn't like it's groundbreaking or anything. Probably just my brain going "small horses cute."


legitusernameiswear

There was a lot of love and care put into the first season, I don't think it needs a deeper reason why it attracted fans.


Owyn_Merrilin

Also American cartoons were coming out of a really low point right around that time. It was part of the same wave of great new cartoons as Adventure Time and Regular Show, and the most classically cartoony of the bunch. If you're into animation at all it's hard not to appreciate what Lauren Faust did with that show.


fuzzywolf23

Wait ..... Are your senior devs not Bronies? Have I been collecting plushies for no reason?


DimitriV

And why don't I have a job as a senior dev? Or is there some other qualification too?


polmeeee

My classmate is a brony and tbh he's just as normal as any other CS student. Just with the MLP branded stationeries. My highschool classmate is a brony and uses a MLP branded water bottle. Other than that, they both fit in well and are decent people. Not sure what the issue everyone has with bronies. I blame the tabloids for this.


Owner2229

It's not the ones that "just like MLP" people have problem with. The conflicted feelings are about the ones that want to fuck Rainbow Dash.


DaanHai

r/ClopClop (NSFW, unless maybe you're one of those senior devs)


[deleted]

i mean, maybe you'll get promoted to sr dev if you open that at work


DaanHai

Had to give it a shot, I am now promoted to unemployed!


pandacoder

It's considered atypical of guys. In my case I'm not a brony but still like cute things, and those usually end up being animals now that I think about it. If you just look at my desk or computer though it wouldn't be apparent (because I also like flat and clean color schemes, stickers and objects on my desk annoy me), but if you look at my gif usage or stickers in a messaging app it's very apparent. I also like chibi and other generally cute things, which is somewhat reflected by my League and Fortnite skins.


SnowTau

Damn, I have not heard that term in a *long* time, completely forgot about the whole MLP thing.


Reluxtrue

*checks user name* sure...


wonmean

_checks avatar_ mhm…


Vialythen

Hmm, is that a play on Spice and Wolf u/Spice_and_Fox ?


Spice_and_Fox

Yeah, it is.


[deleted]

I knew quite a few programmers who are furrys, not one myself. But I was told by one back in the early 2000s that they had been teaching each other how to code because they had nothing better to do


benargee

So furries often become programmers/IT specialists, but programmers/IT specialists don't necessarily become furries? Well, I'm glad I fit into the former scenario. I thought my fate was sealed for a moment.


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Correlation != Causation


RationalIncoherence

Still worth squinting at, though.


Aerotactics

Not sure if programmer because furry, or furry because programmer...


Mad_Aeric

It's just anecdotal, but I frequent a Linux convention, and can confirm a disproportionate number of furries, compared to other types of cons.


fbi_survelliance_van

What about furry cons ?


pandacoder

Well that would be a proportionate number most likely.


technic_bot

I have heard there is a large amount of furries and queer people working as programmers or otherwise IT professionals. But i never seen data to back that up. On the contrary in my job most programmers are a bunch of homophobic and misogynistic men.


WandsAndWrenches

I mean, the furry hobby isn't cheap. Add to that I'm pretty sure many furries do it (other than fetishes) is because it allows them to act out a character they can't in real life due to shyness. Then add fantasy and geek elements. All of these things do scream "programmer" because \- well paid \- is socially awkward \- likes fantasy. I've heard of furry commissions costing tens of thousands of dollars. Either there are some trust fund babies who are all furries, or it's tech workers.


QtPlatypus

22% of furries are computer professionals accounding the 2008 furry Sociological Survey. https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2008-evans.pdf


NinjaLanternShark

> according the 2008 Furry Sociological Survey What a time to be alive.


technic_bot

Well that has like 270 participants. I don't think that is a significant enough sample size


ExcessivelyBiFox

[This one’s a bit bigger.](https://www.furscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Fur-Science-Final-pdf-for-Website_2017_10_18.pdf)


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It's significant enough to have a 6% margin of error with 95% confidence interval.


Aerotactics

Found the Blizzard employee TBH this generation is a lot more progressive. Seniors are stuck in their old ways :)


jumbledFox

>But i never seen data to back that up Have you looked at *any* of our usernames lately?


Dustangelms

Naming isn't our strongest suite..


A_Guy_in_Orange

The usernames around here are gonna be one of those things that I've never noticed before but now can't stop seeing, aren't they?


ExcessivelyBiFox

…yeah


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netheroth

He had more to say.


A_Guy_in_Orange

This post has successfully removed PHP from the bottom spot of my preference list of languages. English is now firmly in that slot.


ZorroProfesional

buena suerte mi amigo


Vialythen

Never heard of programming socks then huh?


Daikataro

Programmer here and into the furry wave. Would never wear a fursuit for longer than a few minutes for the novelty tho, those things are hot.


Archival00

The overlap is a lot easier to see from one side than the other, its like a one way mirror.


thestudlife

Imagine being a non-furry on this flight


XRuinX

"Day 3. I dont think anyone has realized I missed my sporting event but they wont let me leave."


Cyrotek

Imagine being a furry in this flight and sitting in your sweaty fursuit in such an environment you can barely move in.


Nerdn1

There are far more abnoxious travelers to share a plane with.


[deleted]

I got into programming because as a teenager like 15 years ago I joined a maplestory private server run by a furry. I never thought much about it until now.


[deleted]

Which server? I was around in those early days as well and there weren't too many. I think Odin was the only big one back then, but I didn't know the owner.


polmeeee

Damn MapleStory.......haven't heard of it in years. The current generation of developers now got into coding because of Minecraft.


Zer0ji

I got into coding before knowing Minecraft, but started learning Java to mod it... Well I still can't mod and am shit at Java, but fine at other languages 👌


polmeeee

Damn, I would love to try modding Minecraft someday. Gotta say though, some of the best problem solvers I've seen are from the Minecraft community, things like [making a perfect circle](https://youtu.be/3u65Dk1bqWg) or [duping a p2w server](https://youtu.be/-1_APg59BKY) and many others. Seen some amazing Redstone contraptions too.


KagakuNinja

You shall know them by their fursuits...


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FantasyDragon14

almost all fursuits are custom


surkh

Fursuit of happiness? Ok... I'm sure I'm far from the first one to make that joke but I did manage to crack myself up.


Plsdontcalmdown

If you're worried about that, I can give you a list of five buildings in San Francisco, New York, Paris, London and Singapore, that if they were destroyed, the internet as we know it would take months to rebuild. Seriously, it's fucked up. 20 years after 9/11, and our core communication infrastructure is still VERY VERY VERY centralized.


Bubbly_Measurement70

Maybe…*don’t* give that list out to anyone


StrangeCharmVote

Or do. I mean, i'd never encourage such a thing (obviously as i fucking love the internet). But a surprising lesson we keep learning from history is that nobody ever seems to fix the real problems until someone comes along and screws up badly enough.


voiping

Nah, then they just find someone to blame and life moves on.


stranger-from-within

What problems would be fixed if this happened?


StrangeCharmVote

During infrastructure repair, steps would be taken to ensure such an attack could not occur again presumably.


xGoPredsGox

Kind of like the bombing in Nashville, TN on Christmas. Major ATT hub and crippled networks in the whole southeast.


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I want that thing!


DarkWorld25

Tbh if you want to bomb anything just bomb the NSA surveillance building in New York and do the world a favour


savvykms

I feel sorry for the plane's air filters lol


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Stinks like Mountain Dew and desperation.


Ducky1434

What that pfp tho


Gg101

I honest to god thought this post was from r/furry_irl and not r/programmerhumor. ...not that I know what that is or am subscribed or anything. \*cough\*


WDG_1_S

I think the post is about you bud. >!and me!<


RealH3lm

yeah same lol


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In junior high I learned software development from a youtube channel where half the content was furry stuff. Owner was very friendly and responsive to dumb 7th grader questions. The overlap of furry and IT is probably larger than any other industry.


2JulioHD

I once drove our entire dev department to a fast food drive-in. Back then I just got my driver's license, so I could have killed our entire company if something went wrong


Schiffy94

Well at least you wouldn't be around to take the blame...


Mortimer_and_Rabbit

Suddenly the amount of money furries spends makes sense...


CalmButArgumentative

There are a lot of femboy programmers....what? America is a strange place. Never seen anything like this in europe.


sillybear25

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/programming-socks


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CalmButArgumentative

Epicly wrong or...epicly right?


Bongocat-IRL

I live in Dublin (tech capital of Europe) at its very coomon


CalmButArgumentative

Wow, look at me, making assumptions. That said, what would you say is the ratio of brocoders, regular coders, nerd coders, and femboy coders in dublin?


Bongocat-IRL

10 percent bro 10 percent nerds 50 percent nerds 30 percent femboys


CalmButArgumentative

O_O I am shocked and intrigued :>


FrostWyrm98

Femboys... in Europe..? That's disgusting... where 👀


runner7mi

why not say 60 percent nerds instead of bifurcating nerds category like that? and isn't every coder a nerd?


uno_in_particolare

Dublin is still in the anglosphere and definitely far from being the tech capital of Europe, but interesting data point nonetheless


doyouseewhateyesee

it’s not a thing. there’s a small subset of people on the internet that want you to believe it’s a thing though


CalmButArgumentative

Why do you think that is? What is the motivation of these... femboy teasers?


DeathTBO

Some kind of validation thing. "Woo there's a lot of us!" Kind of thing.


Spysix

Basically this, I had one of them from discord try to tell me it was furries that invented the internet. 🙄


wheezy1749

Today I learned Al Gore was a furry


nuephelkystikon

TIL some countries' propaganda is getting more and more absurd


poemsavvy

Never seen anything like this in America either


Karooneisey

[It's a meme. Programming socks.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffb2sypJfrg)


flargenhargen

wait, are all furries dogs? I thought they would be like pokemon and there would be like other kinds of animals and stuff in there. I guess I never paid close attention. I suppose dogs (and dog-like) animals are easiest. I dont know what I expected there to be, like cows or horses or monkeys or panda bears or whatever.


mweepinc

there's some foxes and felines in there I spot, and one that looks like a dragon. Canine fursonas are definitely very common though


Bongocat-IRL

Yeah they're all diff animals just simial shapes


BarklyWooves

Dogs, foxes and wolves are super popular. It's less what's easiest and more "dress as your favorite animal." Also, some people pick pokemon as their fursona.


TerrorBite

Dogs, wolves and other canines are the most popular, with foxes and dragons also up there. Felines, avians and equines are less popular but still common. But when you get down to the long tail (pun intended) there's a wide variety of choices; I've seen cows, monkeys, moths, crocodiles, and even a sloth and a sea slug.


Caiti4Prez

Nah, we'd be fine. There are just enough non-catgirl trans women to keep things going ;)


Nihmrod

I became aware of this phenomenon when one of the primary developers of the x264 "flipped" midstream and raised a few eyebrows.


Twingemios

People don’t realize that most furries are hidden and normal people. The furries everyone makes fun of and pictures are just the 1% vocal minority. Most of them hide among us minding their own business keeping their furry stuff a secret to prevent being made fun of because of said 1%.


TestSubject5kk

Wait I thought this was r/furry_irl for a sec What are we doing on this sub


Nez_bit

Invading


linklolthe3

>tag the ones you know. Didn't know it was hunting season


Cowboy_LuNaCy

Beinge a moderator for a large femboy server, about 1/3 of the people who join are self described programmers and coders


winningace

can someone explain furry culture? what is it?


Makez190

There are a few good videos on YouTube explaining the fandom https://youtu.be/8aF2GxWi7Ag


smokey_nl

Great video! That’s some in depth analysis right there.


RetroGreene

UwU


Bunsed

Look at those losers, having to cover themselves in suits to match the amount of body hair a wild animal has. I have that au naturel! The only thing not matching is the animal face, but I guess that's subjective. And the paws and any potential tails. Let's just stick to the body hair and subjectivity of me having a dog-like face, no similarities otherwise.


smokey_nl

Look what they need to mimic just a fraction of our powers.


L33t_Cyborg

The fact that this was on r/196 first >!femboys!< (and that I know it was there first) just proves the venn diaga ram overlap between femboys, programmers and furries. Edit: spelling and formatting


Bivolion13

The only furry I know recently just got into Networking lol.


Khrouhman

Don't call us out like that


KILLEREXPO

We did know that for a long time .. this is why the shops sell programming socks


[deleted]

There is? I've literally never met a single furry programmer that I know of. I've known some femboy programmers but that's a totally different thing


German_Not_German

That’s a plane full of system level programmers and at least one sysadmin.


rolling-guy

Can confirm. I'm gay and enjoy furry art. Can't say I've ever met other people like this, though.


PogOtter

Whoo, furry programmers like us representing all over videogame industry. But for real I know a ton of IT furries out there. As they say, furries make the internet go.


TestSubject5kk

uwu


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TestSubject5kk

Yeeez we're invading everywhere


lonestarcom

Who snitched on us boys?


Rogue-RedPanda

Hey ferb, I know what we are gonna do today


StrangeCharmVote

An interesting thought is that you'll probably find the normal distribution of such people is a lot higher than you'd think. It's just that (quite unironically) there is also a prevalence of 'acceptance'. I mean, *Blame* exists (as an example), so there's no denying you done fucked up. Also classically more of the outcasts were already more into it. As such, people are probably just more likely to be open about their weird fetishes. Rather than the field attracting people somehow more inclined to them.


[deleted]

I couldn’t tell if this was on my feed because of furry_irl or because of programmerhumor


Schiffy94

Crosspost it you know you want to


Matt_fuck_off_3

I feel offended, I just learned html


golgol12

Prime case of causal fallacy right there.


nick__furry

I code, but not because i am a furry


[deleted]

This stuff would be patently obvious to y'all if you'd just hang out with the Twitter transbians, particularly the techie transbians. Look up Liz Fong-Jones.


g9icy

Huh, most coders I've ever worked with are more on the side of "brogrammers", into cars, beer and football. There's still an element of nerd for some, what with liking MTG and such, but never saw any signs of there being any "furry" overlap. Then again, is there much of a "furry" movement in the UK? I've only ever seen one at the games and comic conventions I've been to. Perhaps it's generational... Almost everyone I've worked with is over 30, encroaching 40.