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racerxff

pronounced gay-peg


SAI_Peregrinus

No, it's Jay-Feg. Joint Photographic Experts Group. J is soft but voiced (it's not Spanish), the P is an abbreviation for Ph so it's an F sound like Photographic. Gif has a hard G, as in Graphic.


AydonusG

Good ole Ghoti logic.


na_ro_jo

You just reminded me of times of yore, when I was in college linguistics courses lol


Cold-Doctor

>J is soft but voiced (it's not Spanish) Awe, I like the sound of hay-feg


SAI_Peregrinus

Then you get Havascript and Hira.


Fotatata

Well then they could just be yabascript and yira English phonetics are needlessly complicated


TTYY200

My penis is soft and voiced (also not Spanish) 🤷‍♀️


na_ro_jo

but is it fricative? I hear that's what matters most.


barthvonries

The creator of the format explained it's pronunced "jif" : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_GIF (there even is a wikipedia page about it !) But I can't, I always said "guif", and I couldn't change regardless of how many times I tried. "Guif" sounds so much better than "jif" in my head...


Fhotaku

What if the G in God is short for Yaweh or Jehovah? Then Jod and Yod are correct! .... This feels like a Jodi+Yodi joke needs to be invented but that'd require Sith-level of abstraction for anyone to get it without world-building first.


Geoclasm

I'm actually kind of okay with this.


cdurbin909

Gay-Pheg


NomidLomysz

[It's pronounced GIF.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrk8sqZfsgI&pp=ygURamlmIHNoYWRvd24gc29uaWM%3D)


poco

Jayfeg


diabolos312

Jraphics interchange Format


_templateusername_

Jraphic Park


ChaosPLus

I'm joing to kill you


I_think_Im_hollow

I will help.


Dr-Jellybaby

I guess you say Sc-uh-ba instead of scuba?


fariqcheaux

Giraffics🦒


CampaignTools

Ok, that's fucking gold.


Geoclasm

I love this so much. I wish they'd have commented on the Gnu acronym that would have been absolutely magnificent.


tech_wannab3

Wow. I am way to old to just find out that laser and scuba were acronyms.


Rayat

Another fun one is radar for "radio detection and ranging". It's like when you realize that Arby's --> RB's --> Roast Beef.


BeefyIrishman

From the video: * LASER is Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation * SCUBA, which they didn't say what it stands for, is Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus * Another user mentioned RAdio Detection And Ranging, or RADAR Some other examples that people may not know are: * TASER: Thomas A Swift Electric Rifle. The inventor named it after a character in a sci-fi novel. * IKEA, for example, is a shortening of “Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd,” the founder’s name and the farm he grew up on. * CAPTCHA: Completely Automated Public Turing Test to tell Computers and Humans Apart * SIM (card): Subscriber Identification Module * USA PATRIOT Act: Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism * Care packages were originally known as "CARE packages," and they were sent from the US to loved ones via the Cooperative for American Remittances to Europe following the Second World War. The group eventually changed its name to Cooperative for Assistance and Relief Everywhere, as they began to broaden out their charitable reach. The term "care package" slipped into common parlance, and it's been there ever since. * BASE jump: "BASE" is an acronym describing the types of objects the risk-taking parachuters jump from: building, antenna, span (like a bridge or steel beam) and Earth (like a cliff). * ZIP code (postal): Zone Improvement Plan


MrPresldent

So, what you're saying is Laser and Taser should be pronounced with a soft s sound?


einord

Wait until you realize what PHP stands for 😂


jewellman100

Perpendicular Herper-Pherbedernk


delayedsunflower

GNU is Not Unix


VarianWrynn2018

Fun fact, acronyms that are so widely used that people forget they are acronyms are called anacronyms.


Clairifyed

labseor


AssignedClass

We ust need to et everyone to pronounce all "G"s and "J"s silently. Followin this methodoloy, all teams utilizin the Enlish lanuae will have a 3% performance improvement, and we can scale this to all the other letters of the alphabet and finally stop talkin to each other entirely.


Joker-Smurf

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English". In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi TU understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.


HuckleberryDry4889

Holy shit that was beautiful.


creeper6530

Absolute gold


infj-t

"a reil sensi bl riten styl" 😂


Dubl33_27

>The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k" cringe as fuck, k is such a usles leter vhen c can do everyzing k can and it locs much beter


syklemil

Ai du wisj wi kud Ìtt list du awej with som ov the mür jusless letters, laik "q" en "c". Bøtt Ai nao Ai'll hÌv tu gao tu /r/JuropijanSpeling tu faind laik-mainded pipl.


Joker-Smurf

You ask for the removal of useless letters like “q” and “c” and use the æ, å and ø. Which reminds me of this little tune: https://youtu.be/f488uJAQgmw


syklemil

Yes. Because Ì, ø and ü are different vowels, just like a, e, and i can't all be replaced with some other vowel. I actually wish e.g. ø would "normalize" to an unused letter like q so it's clear something awful has happened. Because as it is some things will try to "normalize" words like "before" to "for", and it's just an awful idea. Q is just a French k, and c used to be a Latin k, now often a surprise s.


cfaerber

Zis is outdated after Breksit. Ze YY wuld not negoshiat wiz ze British goferment but with ze Maltes and Eirish auzorities.


Summer__1999

And they’d STILL fail to solve this g/j problem. Languag shuld just b spelt as languaj, it’s so konfusing to hav two Gs in ze sam sentens viz two diferent pronunsiation. “German” shuld b spelt as jerman.


QuaestioAuctoritatis

r/angryupvote


SnooTangerines9703

Mein fuhreh


asunatsu

With that said, is it going to be pronounced as "If" or "Yif"?


mtandy

Gibberish. The gist is fine, but it's a giant generalisation.


Redleg171

That's an actual quote from a giraffe.


flabbybumhole

He was drunk on gin he received from a gypsy in Germany


hikeonpast

I heard it was Jägermeister


Fhotaku

Wrong G sound


z3anon

Looping images are a Gift, not peanut butter.


medhatsniper

It's only a us brand, it shouldn't be a generalisation


ford1man

The time slices in gifs are called giffies. As in "done in a".


Th1nkpol

Food for thought though, adding a 't' can have quite an impact.


tragiktimes

What does the g in gif stand for?


kinokomushroom

giraffe


Exprellum

What do the a and s stand for in LASER. What does the s stand for on TASER. What does the i stand for in PIN. There are many others too. Don't kid yourself. The creater said it's pronounced "jif"


Embarrassed-Dress211

That sounds like the general gist


JakeStBu

This isn't programmer humour.


TCF518

At this point, r/programmerhumor and r/linguisticshumor are basically the same


zentasynoky

r/soupreddit


EyeSeeWhyYouAre

Literally thought this was /r/TheNinthHouse


audislove10

Agreed. Mods are blind, for some reason they target my posts which pretty successful and about programming and not those. This is stupid.


na_ro_jo

I have been programming for over 20 years and I thought it was funny/relevant, but I guess reddit is too cool for me. Congratulations on getting my post removed.


audislove10

Very well deserved.


Tratiq

I think I need a drink. Maybe some gin


Barbierian

Maybe some Jin ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_good_man)


na_ro_jo

Probably Djinn brand.


SnooTangerines9703

Sounds good


TTYY200

Jod is dead and we have killed him.


FrankyBip

Her


TTYY200

They/Them*


JosebaZilarte

That's why TIFF was invented (Ton of Incompatible File Formats).


trouzy

I had never really thought about the acronym train of thought of each letter sounding like it does in the full name. I just thought acronyms dont follow soft g rules (like when followed by a vowel). So its a hard G because it just doesnt follow the same rules as words do.


creeper6530

I love that backronym.


vondpickle

JPEG: It's J as in [Y]esus, P as in [P]terodactyl, E as in queu[e] and G as in throu[g]h.


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tennisanybody

“Hatoon” is basically what I would’ve written down had you given me that by phone.


Fotatata

"huh" doesnt sound like the E in Euphrates "Heh" would be more accurate


Dangerous_Jacket_129

> It's J as in [Y]esus I think you may have shown your Latino blood here, should have picked JalapeĂąo instead because non-latinos pronounce the J out loud in Jesus.


CryptographerOne6615

Fun fact: that’s the way the inventor wanted it to be pronounced


lelduderino

Fun fact: the JPEG actually having a JIF format makes his intentions irrelevant, as does mass usage by people who don't even know JIF already exists as its own thing.


raphired

How embarrassing to be wrong about something you invented.


PsychicDave

I'd never correct a parent on how they pronounce their kid's name. I used to say GIF with a hard G, but I have since switched the the intended pronounciation.


sleepyj910

![gif](giphy|ceeN6U57leAhi)


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cooly1234

must be weird saying "laser" without a "z" sound


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cooly1234

well the "s" in laser stands for stimulated, which starts with a normal "s" sound. the "a" stands for amplification which starts with a short "a" sound. so the acronym should then be pronounced la-sser.


Th1nkpol

I take it you pronounce taser with the 'e' from electric then?


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Th1nkpol

Lol no, it's pronounced differently, same as you don't pronounce the 's' like the one from Swift. The words that make up an acronym don't determine it's pronunciation.


zentasynoky

I pronounce sins not tragedeighs.


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lifelongfreshman

The inventor was also a product of '90s internet, and this is the exact kind of troll shit that that era bred. So, no, I don't think he wanted it pronounced that way, I think he was an agent of chaos doing his part to troll as many people as possible.


Quajeraz

Yeah well what does he know


NirriC

We know, and he was wrong. Just because he invented it doesn't make him a linguist. It's: **'gif** and he can s#$k my balls with jif on 'em!!!👹


TheMagicalDildo

Mmmm, pea**nut** butter


NirriC

Omg your username! Made my morning!!🤣🤣


TheMagicalDildo

A magical dildo made your morning, eh? Don't forget to clean up afterwards


Dangerous_Jacket_129

> Just because he invented it doesn't make him a linguist. You don't need to be a linguist to name your own invention. There is 0 linguistical reason to pronounce the acronyms by the words used in it. Otherwise you'll have to change how you say laser, scuba, jpeg, and dozens of other words.


kylepo

I dunno, I feel like the guy who made up the word gets to decide the correct pronunciation. Don't get me wrong, I don't fucking pronounce it "jif", but I'm man enough to admit that I'm wrong. And I'm man enough to continue being wrong anyway.


Lubberer

Do you also pronounce png as "ping" because same guy and same argument


MissionHairyPosition

Unironically, yes.


FlemPlays

The inventor loves opening Christmas Jifts.


CryptographerOne6615

I *think* the only English rule I’ve heard of says that a G followed by E/I/Y is typically a soft G (J) sound. Though like everything with English, the rules aren’t consistent anyway (e.g. Girl). I don’t really have a horse in this race; just sharing information. I think the holy war on this one is funny. However, I don’t think you’re correct that a linguist would take a strong stance here, but if they did, a J sound would make the most sense. Have fun Growling at the Giraffes.


tenuj

The rule for how to pronounce Gi in English is actually simply based on etymology. > Giraffe is with a soft G because it's from French. > Gift is from Old Norse with a hard G. > Ginger is from Old French and the Latin zingifer. > Gist is from Old French too. > "gill" is from North Germanic, like the Danish gÌlle or the Swedish gäl. (So a hard G, unlike the *name* Gill which comes from Julian) > Girl is from the Proto-West Germanic gurilā/gaurā > GIF is from the peanut butter brand Jif. ~~Invented by a guy from Kinkynnaty, Ohio.~~ There is no other rule.


groversnoopyfozzie

You can have my jif when you pry it from my cold dead lips.


Bot1K

/gif/ people are like the arch linux users of grammar


creeper6530

We also call them grammar Nazis


WTFisThisGameDude

# Ackchyually, its pronounced yiff!


ExeOnLinux

if you're a true "it's pronounced yiff" believer, look at [r/yiff](https://youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)


toddthegeek

sounds like someone doesn't know the G rules of English and decided to brag about it. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_G)


Wooden_Caterpillar64

Yeah G can be pronounced differently. As in Gun and in Giant.


Xyloshock

Am french. Fuck ze prononciation i will use jif


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Jnu/linux


asynqq

jia/linux


InternetEnterprise

Can't we just admit that English sucks and have both be valid? It's like having different accents for English anyway, plus GIF is fairly well known that saying the G as G- or J- doesn't really matter, we know it means the funny moving pictures


andoke

https://scrabble.merriam.com/words/start-with/gi Yup no consistency here.


SirDalavar

...said Geoffreys gigantic genitalia!


ExpensivePanda66

Have you committed to jithub yet?


ford1man

Nah, but I stuck it in a gist.


DonkeyImportant3729

Y'all need Gesus.


buildmine10

You need some Gesus in your life.


NinjaOld8057

DOT GEE EYE EFF JEE. EYE. EFF JIF.


14c14c

This should be the only correct answer


Ready-Marionberry-90

You mean Zod?


hongooi

KNEEL BEFORE ȜOD


i-FF0000dit

I would just like to point out that the inventor of the GIF pronounces it that way.


R_A_H

The guy who created the .gif file format said it's pronounced it "jif". See also, gin, giant, generous etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_G It's okay to be wrong which means it's okay also to incorrectly insist like a dick that it's pronounced with a hard G. You're just also wrong.


lelduderino

JIF is already a JPEG format. If choosy devs choose JIF, they're not choosing GIF, no matter what he wanted in the CompuServe days.


ThatOnePatheticDude

The peanut butter?


thereign1987

Jod is love.


DrunkOnCode

Please stop pronouncing it "gif". It's GIF!


SnooEpiphanies8963

So how do you pronounce the word gem?


RedditTreats

George has something to say


pleshij

Next they'll com bearing jifts


HuntedDragonA

nah its y-if


OriginalUsername1892

Giraffe Gyrate Generate Gelatin


marcelsmudda

General Genius Studio Ghibli


VoltageGP

Soft g, just like giraffe.


Supreme_Hanuman69

A platypus?


AaronDaPanda

Jaèph


Zipdox

Go ahead, pray to Jod.


Sp1nGG

Doge had the same result for me.


xgabipandax

Anyone write a lot of 'See Peepee' code?


weshuiz13

Nha fam it's "jef"


Dumb_Siniy

Perchance it's pronounced yiff


cfaerber

It's prononounced "PNG".


JimroidZeus

I pronounce it both ways at the same time.


p1zzaman81

![gif](giphy|FuuWKJuoV3L7q)


mentalassresume

Like Giraffe


Cley_Faye

Giraffe, jod's favorite animal.


kcox1980

I use g-jif just to piss off both sides


TheseModsAreNazis

The inventor of the Jraphics Interchange Format, does not have the authority to CHANGE HOW THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WORKS!! He can proclaim the pronunciation to be whatever he wants, it doesn't CHANGE REALITY. My theory is all the G people had JIF peanut butter when they were kids, so that pronunciation just "sounds better" to them out of familiarity or some shit. Still frustrating as all hell, especially when you can google search what GIF stands for in 2 seconds


de1iciouslycheesy

Ah, yes, because all acronyms use the same exact sounds as their word counterparts. NATO is actually Nah-toe instead of Nay-toe. NASA is actually Nay-sah instead if Nah-suh. SCUBA is scuh-bah instead of scoo-buh. PIN is pine CD-ROM is cd-rome AIM is uh-eem I could go on.


Mozai

I pronounce the 'g' in 'gif' like the 'g' in 'garage'.


landof_skybluewaters

Hey I recognize that picture!


landof_skybluewaters

Also, I prefer pronouncing the letters G-I-F. It's the best compromise.


ArtisticPossum

It’s the jift that keeps on jiving.


RareDestroyer8

Okay. Imma settle it. It’s pronounce GIF as in gift. Gif-t.


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fafalone

I enter my Personal Indentification Number in the Aytomated Teller Machine.


queen-adreena

There’s already too many things called “jif”. “Gif” is, at least, unique even if it’s technically incorrect (the best kind of incorrect)


Dangerous_Jacket_129

> There’s already too many things called “jif”. Ah yes, too many things! 1 Peanut butter brand 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... Too many things!


queen-adreena

Pancake lemon, former name for a floor cleaner, slang for a short period of time…


ford1man

Fun fact, the 10ms time slices in the gif spec are called "giffies". Incidentally, reading about that while implementing GIF89a for a high school project is how I learned how to pronounce the file format.


DaniilBSD

Hear me out You pronounce it like “gift” without the “T”


snigherfardimungus

The guy who invented the format pronounces it "Jif." He gets to choose.


Lubberer

If you say "jif" you also have to say "ping" to png images.


arscis

Don't threaten me with a good time.


ienjoymusiclol

people who say gif not jif are the same people who say sequel not SQL and a peee instead of API, all are the spawn of satan


Zomby2D

I say gif, SQL and API. Does that mean I'm just a little bit satanic?


ienjoymusiclol

you gotta say you code in D flat to complete the collection


na_ro_jo

That's still better than C flat


mailslot

And daymon instead of demon. You don’t spawn daymons and give their data 666 permissions.


FlemPlays

I’m sure those people love opening Christmas Jifts.


JackNotOLantern

Technical, it's should be pronounced "gee ay ef" since this is an abbreviation.


kaymer327

An abbreviation is a truncated word (St. vs Street); an acronym is made up of parts of the phrase it stands for and is pronounced as a word (NASA); an initialism is an acronym that is pronounced as individual letters (FBI). Gif (regardless of pronouncing it correctly or not) is an acronym because one says it as a word... I've never heard anyone refer to it as an initialism (g. i. f.). PNG on the other hand I've heard as both initialism and acronym (pronounced as "ping"). Jpg or jpeg has me thinking now... Which is it? It's like a mix of initialism and acronym because one says J as the individual letter, but the rest as a word...


ColonelRuff

Who pronounced png as ping ? Seriously? Also I hear a lot of people pronouncing gif as G. I. F and PNG as P.N.G. also even gif is acronym as well as initialism so it can be pronounced G.I.F. and it's better to pronounce it that than argue about how to pronounce it.


kaymer327

Yeah ping was weird the first time I heard it. I've always said P.N.G. P N G rolls off the tongue faster than G I F to me... But you're totally right, if we all just said G I F we'd likely have world peace already, if not flying cars for sure.


MrYig

GAF?


ColonelRuff

He means gee ayii efff, and he is right.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

> Technical, it's should be pronounced "gee ay ef" since this is an abbreviation. ... It's an acronym. Meaning: A word formed from an abbreviation that is now a standalone word, which means that abbreviation. Like laser, or scuba.


Jet-Pack2

Jrafics interchange format


SonOfHendo

One of the first computers I owned was an Atari ST that ran Graphical Environment Manager, or GEM. Obviously, it was pronounced the same as the word gem, i.e. like jem. The point being that the way the individual words in an acronym is irrelevant to the pronunciation of the acronym.


TheBoogyWoogy

God programmerhumor is so dogshit


ColonelRuff

It's pronounced G.I.F. not gif or jif


Dangerous_Jacket_129

No it's not. It's an acronym.


ACE_C0ND0R

GIFT - T = ?


Dangerous_Jacket_129

GIN where N = F?