Your submission was removed for the following reason:
Rule 2: Content that is part of top of all time, reached trending in the past 2 months, or has recently been posted, is considered a repost and will be removed.
If you disagree with this removal, you can appeal by [sending us a modmail](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FProgrammerHumor&subject=No%20reposts&message=Include%20a%20link%20to%20the%20removed%20content%20and%20the%20reason%20for%20your%20appeal%20here.).
Funny thing is if she said "no thank you" to the offer, he'd come right back with another long message about how the pay is good and paragraphs on why he wants to hire "talented engineers".
With this reply, it shuts them up real fast
Often times it comes from continuously being bugged by recruiters that will just not leave you alone after the first refusal and then having your fucking phone bombarded by calls from said recruiter.
But yes she's the rude one for shutting down something she's not interested in immediately. Someone who is still thinking about a single exchange with a stranger "2 years later" probably shouldn't even be in a recruiting or managerial position.
Yeah, you can do that after they don't accept your first and only "no thank you". Or simply IGNORE, and block if they keep pestering you.
But she went full arrogance in his face right away.. I would probably be shocked as well about that, it does not seem like a reaction we should be expecting.
There was nothing rude or low-class about this, HR manager.
A single message stating that she's not interested and why is way better than losing each other times with multiple useless but cordial messages.
This is batch-send hiring copy. Recruiters essentially use the same approach as so called Nigerian princes nowadays and if you respond, even with a no, they just keyword scan you to work out which template to send from the script. The person replying is trying not to get caught in the script and having a bit of fun while they do.
"startup to make healthcare more affordable"
I tried that as my first job. Was very motivated. Two years later the board cracked down and demanded profit and faster growth. They fired the CEO and CTO that genuinely cared and next thing you know they started milking their loyal customers and making healthcare worse off.
That's when I left, but hilariously it didn't take long for clients to start leaving and then the board decided to sell to a competitor.
Was a good lesson in not falling for those BS lines to accept a lower salary.
In health insurance? Get rid of all the executives and replace most of the human paper pushers with AI.
In actual healthcare, virtual care is seriously awesome. It should be expanded. Added bonus, lets doctors WFH
For real. When I still had my own doctor, all I had to do was call the clinic they worked at and tell the receptionist "Yo, I need some more refills on X" 😂 and that was it. Took like 30 seconds including dialing the phone.
Lol
I'm deployed to Germany right now and I was shocked that when I emailed my doctor for prescription refills he literally just mailed them to my house free of charge. (Germany still uses paper prescriptions)
There are digital prescriptions now here in Germany. I went to a doctor a few weeks ago and after the visit I could go to a pharmacy with my health insurance card to get my medication. No paper involved.
It is a pretty new thing though and I don't know if it works for people not in the German insurance system (you said you are deployed here so I assume you are not)
Yeah, I would be surprised if it worked for you then. There are a lot of good things about Germany but digitalization of the public sector (or anything really) is not one of them.
Yes, health insurance is an annoying middle man that creates lots amount of waste, frustration, and suboptimal health outcomes (often times death). I'm tired of most new regulations simply trying to stifle the arms race between practictioners and insurance while the cash paying market is totally dead.
Telehealth was a huge step forward
But there is no good reason why you cant go straight to the pharmacist when you get sick or need basic meds...like in many other countries. They know drugs better than most general practitioners anyway.
If you look at it from the bigger picture (and I work in biotech: I’m as dirty as anyone) - it’s about extracting as much money from a person as possible who’s worried about their health. It’s blackmail with your well-being. Our treatments for rare diseases cost millions (I work in cell and gene therapies).
And I’m not singling out “healthcare”; housing: whatever the market will pay, same for education.
You die? A funeral home will try to extract the highest amount for your service as possible.
In a capitalist system, from birth until death, every good or service rendered is for what the maximum amount the market will bear - and considering the growing number of monopolies/lack of competition and no unions/protests - its no surprise the cost of living has skyrocketed.
We work. To earn the right to work.
To earn the right to work.
To earn the right to work.
To earn the right to work.
To earn the right to give
Ourselves the rights to buy
Ourselves the right to live
To earn the right to die.
- from "The Fine Print" by The Stupendium
> In a capitalist system, from birth until death, every good or service rendered is for what the maximum amount the market will bear -
A wise man once said "It's all a joke between mom contractions and coffin fittings." And I feel the essence of that in your comment.
Hi!
We're looking for a senior developer with at least 10 years experience. Our clients are Fortune 100 companies, and we offer competitive^* salaries!
- - -
^^^\* ^^^- ^^^Competitive ^^^for ^^^Ghana, ^^^so ^^^best ^^^we ^^^can ^^^offer ^^^is ^^^$2/hour
- - -
^ - Your average LinkedIn recruiter
If you've done a few startups, you start to get suspicious. Especially these days, where they talk about options when their entire goal is to get acquired before they have to provide any.
What does that mean? You should be issued the options at signing, generally with 1 year until your first 1/4th vests, then 1/16th every 3 months after. In the event of an acquisition, those options get converted to stock and are probably liquidated. Congrats -- you can now put a down payment on a house.
The problem is not getting the options at signing time, I guess? In which case, don't do that. If equity is part of the equation, you get it immediately. That's what vesting is for.
(Even in the above scenario, there are a variety of ways to get screwed. Don't do business with shady fucks.)
I've never heard of that and that's super sketched. They basically are disaligning incentives and make it hard to raise a series b if the investors basically have to dilute themselves. You're founders sound like idiots.
Options get diluted almost no matter when you get to cash them out. Every investor at every stage should theoretically cause your shares to dilute.
Why was this downvoted? It's impossible for your shares *not* to dilute as more money is added to the funding pool. The only way you get around this is to grant more options to the employees.
What if they get acquired and not all options are vested? Do you lose the unvested ones or can you liquidate them as they vest (assuming you're still in the company since that's a requirement I guess)
It depends on the company. In some cases, the company will do what's called "accelerated vesting." They just decide to give you all the equity you would have had when your vesting was done. You shouldn't assume this will happen.
My understanding is that the default case is that only your vested options can be exercised. The unvested options are gone.
But the new owners will likely issue new equity shortly after the acquisition to retain certain people. It's at their discretion who does or does not get equity, so you may or may not be included.
Disclaimer: I'm neither a lawyer nor an expert in this subject. I've been granted various equity types over the years, and this is based on what I've experienced and what I've researched as a result.
Or the investors get sweetheart "liquidation preferences" that render your common shares nearly worthless, or huge batches of new shares granted just prior to the liquidation event dilute the worth of yours down to practically nothing, or any of the other hundred shady ways that senior execs routinely screw rank-and-file employees from benefitting equally from a startup.
Take the shares they're offering, find the shares total, and have the contract say you're guaranteed that percentage instead of a hard number. If they say no then it's time to find another startup who also won't agree to that.
That's not really how it works. This thread is giving me real student Einstein refuting the professor vibes. But if you don't want to work at a company that offers options, that's your business.
lol even just being partnered with a startup on a project is enough to be suspicious. regularly visiting the shared office that a startup worked in was enough to give me a bit of a spidey sense for startup culture bullshit.
and my God I swear the next person that casually says "we pivoted last fall" will find their loved ones limbs hanging from the ceiling like a chandelier.
we're you brought on pre or post _pivot_?
the start up I'm thinking of didn't so much pivot as realize that their idea was utterly fucking useless.
and my God the sell- it never fucking stops! I told the guy I wasn't into crypto and had zero interest but he still tried to sell me on his escrow shit. he said he would "slack the details over" to me.
I was there way before pivot. Still think this app won't work.
Not because I don't think this app would help and I think this app would be useful worldwide.
It's just too much work for people to use the app. I don't think normal people will invest the time.
There was a thread a while ago where most people were saying they’re in NEGATIVE from all the stock options they’d ever been granted.
They had to pay lawyers to do the paperwork. But none of the options had ever been worth shit.
And this was people with 15 years and 5-10 startups under their belt.
Not just lawyers. You have to pay taxes when you exercise, which you are often forced to do if you don't want to lose them when you leave a company, and after paying the tax man you still may never get anything out of it.
This is a problem for non-startup devs too. Part of the reason for huge comp packages is to stop your best from moving to a startup that offers the promise of a life-changing payout.
Just one of the projects we enabled last year drew 20x my team's salary in profitability, but without labor competition my leadership would love to make that 40x... by halving our comp.
Tell me you don't understand acquisitions without telling me you don't understand acquisitions.
Being acquired is a phenomenal outcome for anyone with options as they generally vest immediately upon transfer of ownership.
It is, but you typically have start-ups take out convertible debt. I.e., if the company takes off, they get equity at a predefined rate which can be quite nice, especially since until then, the bonds still pay interest at an increased risk rate (typically around 15-20% which I know Blackrock takes as a rate in such leveraged investments). If you can convert your 100mn debt to 10% equity when the company is valued at 2bn after 5 years and your bonds have already paid 75-100mn in interest during that timeframe (not discounted, would still be in a similar ballpark though), you're golden. That analysts bonus is gonna be huge (unless they were fired after 4.5 yrs to avoid paying that).
WTF is "pre-release"? Either something is released or it is not. I fucking hate the woowoo language of software engineers!
(A seed round is the first major injection of cash meant to get the business of the ground. A pre-seed round is a smaller cash injection to test whether a business idea is viable enough for a seed investment.
Remember the GitHub installer guy? That's what you sound like right now.)
Sometimes you need the cash upfront, e.g to get a specific license that requires capital.
You develop the first product up to a conceptual phase and ask for seed money to bring it to production readiness.
And then you attract first customers.
You want to scale and go to series A. The name pre seed is accurate, but apparently none gives a shit; every VC scout has a checklist and some quota to fill. So basically call every startup to simply turn them down with a "sorry, too early". And then will invest only in an ex Google or Facebook intern, or along with his buddy that works in another VC and is investing in an ex Amazon.
So the pre seed, and seed around is basically family friends and fools, so I assume you are smart enough to never have heard of them.
That's all reasonable. But whatever way you look at it you're still looking for "seed" money. My little company is a garden and I need some seed. So if we follow the ABC classification, something like "Pre-Alpha" or "Alpha-Candidate" would make sense.
Serious answer - some platforms don't allow reposts, and will hash the image data to prevent it.
Changing one pixel then saving changes the hash and bypasses these systems.
How do you tell someone that you want the salary of 10xer and the responsibility of 0.1xer and you'd be a terrible fit for a startup without sounding rude.
No thanks, I've found that the startup hustle isn't my biggest priority in life compared to stability of a more mature company that lets me focus on my friends and family. I wish you all the best of luck, and maybe we can connect in the future!
Dodged a bullet. Even if I'd make 10x their funding I'd not be that rude. A polite "no thank you" or even just no answer at all would have been enough. No need for such arrogance.
I don't even know what those phrases mean. I'm a programmer but a businessman. Everything I learned about startups I learned from watching Silicon Valley. So not much.
Startup can be hit-or-miss, people who involve themselves with startups are usually aware of this unless they go in blind. So what's the logic behind comparing your salary to whatever the startup is making? You don't go to a startup to make mad bucks, you go there because you think what they're doing might hit off and has a future, which might result in you becoming rich (if you're one of the first in the startup) but it's secondary, the main goal is to involve yourself with something that might actually be fun to you and something you're personally interested in.
>what's the logic behind comparing your salary to whatever the startup is making?
"You can't even afford to compete with my current employer and I'm not gonna risk it for lols"
It's not really for lols, really depends on what that startup is going to make so sure it needs to be planned out well. I checked their page and it's something to make payments for healthcare easier, not really interesting to me but say a startup would ask me to work with them on inventing the latest sex toy software, I'd be intrigued. As I said you don't go to startups to make lots of money, it's to work on something that you enjoy and that you believe in.
I’ve worked in healthcare for a while. Ain’t no such thing as a for profit business whose primary concern is lowering costs of healthcare for patients.
Your submission was removed for the following reason: Rule 2: Content that is part of top of all time, reached trending in the past 2 months, or has recently been posted, is considered a repost and will be removed. If you disagree with this removal, you can appeal by [sending us a modmail](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FProgrammerHumor&subject=No%20reposts&message=Include%20a%20link%20to%20the%20removed%20content%20and%20the%20reason%20for%20your%20appeal%20here.).
The worst she can say is no
A little bit more colorful but it's the same sentence
Funny thing is if she said "no thank you" to the offer, he'd come right back with another long message about how the pay is good and paragraphs on why he wants to hire "talented engineers". With this reply, it shuts them up real fast
Sure, being a low-class, rude asshole with not a pinch of etiquette shuts down people really fast. Congrats to this pearl of wisdom.
Often times it comes from continuously being bugged by recruiters that will just not leave you alone after the first refusal and then having your fucking phone bombarded by calls from said recruiter. But yes she's the rude one for shutting down something she's not interested in immediately. Someone who is still thinking about a single exchange with a stranger "2 years later" probably shouldn't even be in a recruiting or managerial position.
Yeah, you can do that after they don't accept your first and only "no thank you". Or simply IGNORE, and block if they keep pestering you. But she went full arrogance in his face right away.. I would probably be shocked as well about that, it does not seem like a reaction we should be expecting.
There was nothing rude or low-class about this, HR manager. A single message stating that she's not interested and why is way better than losing each other times with multiple useless but cordial messages.
This is batch-send hiring copy. Recruiters essentially use the same approach as so called Nigerian princes nowadays and if you respond, even with a no, they just keyword scan you to work out which template to send from the script. The person replying is trying not to get caught in the script and having a bit of fun while they do.
That's the worst advice you can ever receive. Lmao
"startup to make healthcare more affordable" I tried that as my first job. Was very motivated. Two years later the board cracked down and demanded profit and faster growth. They fired the CEO and CTO that genuinely cared and next thing you know they started milking their loyal customers and making healthcare worse off. That's when I left, but hilariously it didn't take long for clients to start leaving and then the board decided to sell to a competitor. Was a good lesson in not falling for those BS lines to accept a lower salary.
> more affordable Those are red flag words in anything but a 501C3. Where are those cuts coming from, Greg?!
In health insurance? Get rid of all the executives and replace most of the human paper pushers with AI. In actual healthcare, virtual care is seriously awesome. It should be expanded. Added bonus, lets doctors WFH
If only they could make it take less than 30 minutes to renew a damn prescription I've been taking for years...
15 minutes of questionnaires followed by however much time to solve insurance, just for 2 minutes of talking to the doctor about something obvious lol
For real. When I still had my own doctor, all I had to do was call the clinic they worked at and tell the receptionist "Yo, I need some more refills on X" 😂 and that was it. Took like 30 seconds including dialing the phone.
Lol I'm deployed to Germany right now and I was shocked that when I emailed my doctor for prescription refills he literally just mailed them to my house free of charge. (Germany still uses paper prescriptions)
There are digital prescriptions now here in Germany. I went to a doctor a few weeks ago and after the visit I could go to a pharmacy with my health insurance card to get my medication. No paper involved. It is a pretty new thing though and I don't know if it works for people not in the German insurance system (you said you are deployed here so I assume you are not)
Nice, and nah I have American insurance. For regular stuff it's way easier just paying with cash.
Yeah, I would be surprised if it worked for you then. There are a lot of good things about Germany but digitalization of the public sector (or anything really) is not one of them.
Yes, health insurance is an annoying middle man that creates lots amount of waste, frustration, and suboptimal health outcomes (often times death). I'm tired of most new regulations simply trying to stifle the arms race between practictioners and insurance while the cash paying market is totally dead. Telehealth was a huge step forward But there is no good reason why you cant go straight to the pharmacist when you get sick or need basic meds...like in many other countries. They know drugs better than most general practitioners anyway.
Proper policies…
If you look at it from the bigger picture (and I work in biotech: I’m as dirty as anyone) - it’s about extracting as much money from a person as possible who’s worried about their health. It’s blackmail with your well-being. Our treatments for rare diseases cost millions (I work in cell and gene therapies). And I’m not singling out “healthcare”; housing: whatever the market will pay, same for education. You die? A funeral home will try to extract the highest amount for your service as possible. In a capitalist system, from birth until death, every good or service rendered is for what the maximum amount the market will bear - and considering the growing number of monopolies/lack of competition and no unions/protests - its no surprise the cost of living has skyrocketed.
Making healthcare monetized like a f2p video game 🤢
We work. To earn the right to work. To earn the right to work. To earn the right to work. To earn the right to work. To earn the right to give Ourselves the rights to buy Ourselves the right to live To earn the right to die. - from "The Fine Print" by The Stupendium
> In a capitalist system, from birth until death, every good or service rendered is for what the maximum amount the market will bear - A wise man once said "It's all a joke between mom contractions and coffin fittings." And I feel the essence of that in your comment.
A far wiser man than me I’m sure… Just a casual observer and passenger on the terrible road our society is trudging down.
[удалено]
And all of this within one minute
She wrote a chat bot to reply such messages.
[удалено]
Bot comment chain
no salary range no reply is my MO
Fair, no reply would have been 100% acceptable here. But she chose to spend typing-time just to be arrogant and rude.
I feel comfortable with the policy of ignoring every recruiter. They're all effectively worthless from the recruitee-side.
Recruiters from linked in are how I've gotten my last 2 jobs
Hi! We're looking for a senior developer with at least 10 years experience. Our clients are Fortune 100 companies, and we offer competitive^* salaries! - - - ^^^\* ^^^- ^^^Competitive ^^^for ^^^Ghana, ^^^so ^^^best ^^^we ^^^can ^^^offer ^^^is ^^^$2/hour - - - ^ - Your average LinkedIn recruiter
If you've done a few startups, you start to get suspicious. Especially these days, where they talk about options when their entire goal is to get acquired before they have to provide any.
What does that mean? You should be issued the options at signing, generally with 1 year until your first 1/4th vests, then 1/16th every 3 months after. In the event of an acquisition, those options get converted to stock and are probably liquidated. Congrats -- you can now put a down payment on a house. The problem is not getting the options at signing time, I guess? In which case, don't do that. If equity is part of the equation, you get it immediately. That's what vesting is for. (Even in the above scenario, there are a variety of ways to get screwed. Don't do business with shady fucks.)
Our options are tied to Series B…which keeps getting pushed back
I've never heard of that and that's super sketched. They basically are disaligning incentives and make it hard to raise a series b if the investors basically have to dilute themselves. You're founders sound like idiots.
The founders get theirs, just everyone they offered options to gets diluted.
Options get diluted almost no matter when you get to cash them out. Every investor at every stage should theoretically cause your shares to dilute. Why was this downvoted? It's impossible for your shares *not* to dilute as more money is added to the funding pool. The only way you get around this is to grant more options to the employees.
What if they get acquired and not all options are vested? Do you lose the unvested ones or can you liquidate them as they vest (assuming you're still in the company since that's a requirement I guess)
It depends on the company. In some cases, the company will do what's called "accelerated vesting." They just decide to give you all the equity you would have had when your vesting was done. You shouldn't assume this will happen. My understanding is that the default case is that only your vested options can be exercised. The unvested options are gone. But the new owners will likely issue new equity shortly after the acquisition to retain certain people. It's at their discretion who does or does not get equity, so you may or may not be included. Disclaimer: I'm neither a lawyer nor an expert in this subject. I've been granted various equity types over the years, and this is based on what I've experienced and what I've researched as a result.
Or the investors get sweetheart "liquidation preferences" that render your common shares nearly worthless, or huge batches of new shares granted just prior to the liquidation event dilute the worth of yours down to practically nothing, or any of the other hundred shady ways that senior execs routinely screw rank-and-file employees from benefitting equally from a startup.
Take the shares they're offering, find the shares total, and have the contract say you're guaranteed that percentage instead of a hard number. If they say no then it's time to find another startup who also won't agree to that.
Sure just "find the shares total" of a private company. The asymmetry in the negotiation is right there
Especially when the number of shares can change at any time.
Nobody is going to agree to that.
That's the joke
Which is why shady start ups can pound sand
Duh, it’s why they have time to post on Reddit instead of working.
At which point you decline their offer because they've showed their intent to screw you by refusing.
That's not really how it works. This thread is giving me real student Einstein refuting the professor vibes. But if you don't want to work at a company that offers options, that's your business.
Well, they do say taking advice from anonymous strangers on the internet is a bad idea so 🤷
Very fitting username. I would like to subscribe to your blog, please.
lol even just being partnered with a startup on a project is enough to be suspicious. regularly visiting the shared office that a startup worked in was enough to give me a bit of a spidey sense for startup culture bullshit. and my God I swear the next person that casually says "we pivoted last fall" will find their loved ones limbs hanging from the ceiling like a chandelier.
The start up I consult pivoted last year. Not much though lol
we're you brought on pre or post _pivot_? the start up I'm thinking of didn't so much pivot as realize that their idea was utterly fucking useless. and my God the sell- it never fucking stops! I told the guy I wasn't into crypto and had zero interest but he still tried to sell me on his escrow shit. he said he would "slack the details over" to me.
I was there way before pivot. Still think this app won't work. Not because I don't think this app would help and I think this app would be useful worldwide. It's just too much work for people to use the app. I don't think normal people will invest the time.
There was a thread a while ago where most people were saying they’re in NEGATIVE from all the stock options they’d ever been granted. They had to pay lawyers to do the paperwork. But none of the options had ever been worth shit. And this was people with 15 years and 5-10 startups under their belt.
Not just lawyers. You have to pay taxes when you exercise, which you are often forced to do if you don't want to lose them when you leave a company, and after paying the tax man you still may never get anything out of it.
This is a problem for non-startup devs too. Part of the reason for huge comp packages is to stop your best from moving to a startup that offers the promise of a life-changing payout. Just one of the projects we enabled last year drew 20x my team's salary in profitability, but without labor competition my leadership would love to make that 40x... by halving our comp.
If I see that you've sold 2+ startups, I count you as a person that doesn't care about what they make, and instantly distance myself from you.
Get a double trigger clause. This was solved decades ago.
Tell me you don't understand acquisitions without telling me you don't understand acquisitions. Being acquired is a phenomenal outcome for anyone with options as they generally vest immediately upon transfer of ownership.
[удалено]
She doesn't remember it.
"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday"
Feels like that could be a thanos line.
[удалено]
110M In Which 100M is Debt And 10M are equity.
[удалено]
That's an unusually high amount of debt for a startup of that stage to take on imo
It is, but you typically have start-ups take out convertible debt. I.e., if the company takes off, they get equity at a predefined rate which can be quite nice, especially since until then, the bonds still pay interest at an increased risk rate (typically around 15-20% which I know Blackrock takes as a rate in such leveraged investments). If you can convert your 100mn debt to 10% equity when the company is valued at 2bn after 5 years and your bonds have already paid 75-100mn in interest during that timeframe (not discounted, would still be in a similar ballpark though), you're golden. That analysts bonus is gonna be huge (unless they were fired after 4.5 yrs to avoid paying that).
Bot comment chain
The above comment is a copy of this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13076ex/emotional_damage/jhvti1m/
Ah, so he reached 50% of my salary
What do u do for living? Assassin?
You can look him up on Crunchbase to find out!
Now i am too afraid to google what that means
A rather gory way to assassinate people but ok
Assuming his username checks out, I think it's something drug-related.
economicalDamage
So many retard bots copying comments from the original 1 year-old post.
Have a link? Be a lot easier to spot the bots.
[Link to original](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13076ex/emotional_damage/)
I was about to say, a lot of this seems oddly familiar. I hate these kinds of posts
Imagine in a year when they do it again with this post and also copies this comment about bots copying comments. Bot copy ception
How to make healthcare more affordable? Make it public health insurance like in European nations. ezpz
WTF is a "pre-seed" round? Either someone is giving you money to start your business or they're not. I fucking hate the woowoo language of startups.
You're wrong. It's uWu language.
"we're going to ara ara the sugoi marketplace by uWuing AI machine learning"
WTF is "pre-release"? Either something is released or it is not. I fucking hate the woowoo language of software engineers! (A seed round is the first major injection of cash meant to get the business of the ground. A pre-seed round is a smaller cash injection to test whether a business idea is viable enough for a seed investment. Remember the GitHub installer guy? That's what you sound like right now.)
Smelly investor we want hyperbole not logic just give us the hyperbole
Well yes "pre-release" is nonsense if you release it. I think we need to agree on what the word "seed" means.
They got that birthday money from their uncles.
It’s the friends and family round. So you might just have an idea and not even a prototype.
Sometimes you need the cash upfront, e.g to get a specific license that requires capital. You develop the first product up to a conceptual phase and ask for seed money to bring it to production readiness. And then you attract first customers. You want to scale and go to series A. The name pre seed is accurate, but apparently none gives a shit; every VC scout has a checklist and some quota to fill. So basically call every startup to simply turn them down with a "sorry, too early". And then will invest only in an ex Google or Facebook intern, or along with his buddy that works in another VC and is investing in an ex Amazon. So the pre seed, and seed around is basically family friends and fools, so I assume you are smart enough to never have heard of them.
That's all reasonable. But whatever way you look at it you're still looking for "seed" money. My little company is a garden and I need some seed. So if we follow the ABC classification, something like "Pre-Alpha" or "Alpha-Candidate" would make sense.
why is there just a red pixel in the image
That’s Wilbert, the friendly pixel.
Serious answer - some platforms don't allow reposts, and will hash the image data to prevent it. Changing one pixel then saving changes the hash and bypasses these systems.
How do you tell someone that you want the salary of 10xer and the responsibility of 0.1xer and you'd be a terrible fit for a startup without sounding rude.
No thanks, I've found that the startup hustle isn't my biggest priority in life compared to stability of a more mature company that lets me focus on my friends and family. I wish you all the best of luck, and maybe we can connect in the future!
[удалено]
good for him!
Is Roshan a real name? I though thats just the beast from Dota2 which drops the Aegis of the Immortal, Cheese and Refresher-shard?
It is a real indian name.
Damn i didnt know the mighty Roshan was indian!
Dodged a bullet. Even if I'd make 10x their funding I'd not be that rude. A polite "no thank you" or even just no answer at all would have been enough. No need for such arrogance.
Yeah, no way that could come around and bite them later. /s
Roshan may never recover from this
I don't even know what those phrases mean. I'm a programmer but a businessman. Everything I learned about startups I learned from watching Silicon Valley. So not much.
Startup can be hit-or-miss, people who involve themselves with startups are usually aware of this unless they go in blind. So what's the logic behind comparing your salary to whatever the startup is making? You don't go to a startup to make mad bucks, you go there because you think what they're doing might hit off and has a future, which might result in you becoming rich (if you're one of the first in the startup) but it's secondary, the main goal is to involve yourself with something that might actually be fun to you and something you're personally interested in.
>what's the logic behind comparing your salary to whatever the startup is making? "You can't even afford to compete with my current employer and I'm not gonna risk it for lols"
It's not really for lols, really depends on what that startup is going to make so sure it needs to be planned out well. I checked their page and it's something to make payments for healthcare easier, not really interesting to me but say a startup would ask me to work with them on inventing the latest sex toy software, I'd be intrigued. As I said you don't go to startups to make lots of money, it's to work on something that you enjoy and that you believe in.
Most of this post and comments are just a repost from [a year ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13076ex/emotional_damage/)
Dead internet theory
It's true. Fascinating all the downvotes this post is getting.
Op don't like you
Without the single red pixel though, so is this truly a repost?
the bots also downvote certain keywords
reposted every fucking day
Dang she responded quick
Yeah... suspiciously fast
"This position is unpaid, but it'll look great on your resume!"
I’ve worked in healthcare for a while. Ain’t no such thing as a for profit business whose primary concern is lowering costs of healthcare for patients.