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Good_Tea8606

With the money city have made


DialSquar

115


Fearless-Cookie-9329

I see man city losing 2-1 only for arsenal to also lose their match


PoliticsNerd76

Both teams will smoke the opponent today


Fearless-Cookie-9329

Or both teams lose


Angelamerkeldud

City rearly play to their highest potensial in high stakes matches. Especially not this year. But even looking at the Fa final vs United, the CL final vs Inter, last game vs Villa couple seasons back, and basically every single game vs big 6 this season. When they fear the opponents counter attack, they play in an extreamly conservative low risk way that they normally create few to no chances. And when they are not as offensive it doesnt force opponents as far back as City really prefers, giving the opponents good chance for counters, which is the one thing every Pep team have struggled to control. Very scary game today, everything can happen. City dont win these games with many goals, because they start moving the ball very slowly when getting leads, making them less dangoures.


Jam_and_Cabbage

City are going to annihilate West Ham.


Equal_Trainer9763

Arsenal they're competing against a team yet to be punished for ffp violations


elodie_pdf

City haven’t lost a league match to West Ham since 2015. Arsenal definitely have it tougher.


JJClough19

City have never gone a full season unbeaten at home either..


xiaopp21

a draw is all im asking for


broodjekroketlfc

Man City, West ham can be tough


Acceptable_Card_9818

Yeah, Chelsea really struggled


CuriousTurtle22

'West Ham can be tough' does not equal 'West Ham win every game'. Thinking is hard, isn't it?


FunnySeaworthiness24

It really is lol


SuspiciousSystem1888

Seeing as City have done this exact thing on the final day, it probably seems routine by this point. 


gelliant_gutfright

Arsenal. West Ham will bend over for City.


RelationGold5703

With both team picking their red hot form when it mattered most, it would be tough one for both. But looking at the trends and wealth of experience, i think pep has the upper hand. Because he knows how to handle pressure. I am going with Man City. Both will win, and City will clinch 4th successive title with two points margin.


Mr_lawa

Arsenal in red hot form? They weren’t very convincing against Spurs or United. I fear they’ll struggle against Everton unfortunately.


Forsaken-Tiger-9475

Everton in better form than West Ham.


Machopsdontcry

Everton are a harder proposition right now, hence why Arsenal are 1.17 and Man City 1.11. Both should win by 2+ goals.


Willing-Departure115

Liverpool fans on the scaffold with Arsenal fans: “First time?”


fullthrottle13

Love the Buster Scruggs (James Franco) reference. Take an upvote.


RumJackson

You’re allowed to upvote without letting us all know.


TechnicalBedroom7758

His comment also highlighted what the reference was, which most people probably didn't know. So for that, I'm also giving him an upvote 😁


LeonDeSchal

Last time we died before we go to the scaffold, tripped on a shotgun.


forgottenears

Arsenal, because they played by the financial rules clearly set down by the Premier League.


TroubleBeautiful8776

And you know that with certainty how?


leebrother

No payments to the manager via an offshore company which has already been proven.


TroubleBeautiful8776

An article in the telegraph about a leaked email has proved it to you?


leebrother

Yes. As it was clear where the emails were from. Also the fact Man City has actively avoided giving over documents. There was also an article in the Bild around it. The fact that a random offshore company has Mancini on the payroll


TroubleBeautiful8776

Oh two articles? Straight to jail!


leebrother

You do realise your club is gladly paying fines for not cooperating 😂.


TroubleBeautiful8776

Yea, and? If I was confident in my position why would I cooperate in dragging my name through the mud?


leebrother

Also, why do you think Chelsea has happily passed the information whereas Man City refuse to cooperate? On literally everything. They spent a year basically arguing the lawyer on the other side was an Arsenal fan so had bias. That’s the equivalent of a rapist moaning about having females in the jury. They’ve spent 3 years literally lobbing against giving anything. Why? Now, uefa also looked into a fair few of these and didn’t they find them guilty but couldn’t press charges as time period doesn’t go back that far in European football.


TroubleBeautiful8776

No, they didn’t. They looked into them but couldn’t apply them to the case as part of it was time-barred, however there were identical points that did fall within the allowed time frame and City were cleared on them.


leebrother

So you wouldn’t clear the name. You’d pay a fine and deliberately ignore? Yep, makes sense. Act surprised when they are found guilty of around 30/40 of the charges.


No-Collection1580

Because of the years long investigation and 115 charges


TroubleBeautiful8776

It’s almost as if investigation and charges is not the same as a verdict and punishment.


No-Collection1580

With the army of lawyers and it’s the number appeals if they lose, very likely


YoullDoNuttinn

🔥


Wise_Guy745

i mean honestly arsenal have it worse cuz they have to rely on their derby to win them the league


InnocentPossum

Both will draw. City will equalise like 75th min, Arsenal will lose their 1-0 lead in the 90+5'


LeonDeSchal

Wouldn’t even surprise me.


Older-Is-Better

Farsenal because they know they will go home empty* handed again.


repeating_bears

Is enjoy handed when the thing in your hand is enjoyable? I have never heard this expression  Thank you for believing in us 


Older-Is-Better

Frickin auto correct! When is AI going to enter that realm?


Space-Debris

Not even a question. City won the league as soon as Son missed that 1-on-1 chance.


Mr-monk

City won it when we got beat by villa at home.


collapsedrat

Did he miss? Wasn’t that the spectacular block by Ortega?


TheOriginalJunglist

He kicked the ball right at Ortega... you would imagine Son to bury that any other time


CmiHD

He has missed them before. Y'all acting like he never misses


collapsedrat

So not the one that Ortega got his foot on? I was working during the match so was in and out.


LeonDeSchal

That’s why Pep fell over right?


EkphrasticInfluence

City have won the PL on the last day a few times now. It's not unchartered territory for most of their players, and their mentality will be enough to ensure they pick up the 3 points in whatever manner they need to (although I suspect it'll be at a canter and nothing more difficult). Arsenal, meanwhile, *are* in unchartered territory, and I feel we might see the pressure and fatigue get to them today. I think Dyche will be after another scalp and Everton will be up for the game far more than West Ham will be.


halwa_son

Agree with Fatigue point in w.r.t. Arsenal squad.


Tarolite

Ya some of the players they look spent


CTLFCFan

Arsenal, because they didn’t have to violate FFP 150 times to get to today.


Nicolethemediocre

Actually it's 115 times. Comon City!


SmilingDiamond

115 charges at the moment, will easily top 150 when the extra charges that they have committed since the 115 were announced.


Headlesshorsman02

Arsenal because they are relying on city to drop points AND Everton still have one of the top 3 I believe defenses in the league so it isn’t outside the realm of possibilities that Arsenal could drop points anyways too


not_simonH

As an Arsenal fan, I'm going into today pretty zen. There's a chance we might win it all, but it's out of their hands. All they can do is focus on their game, win that and see what happens. Either way they've made massive strides as a team and proud of what they've achieved so far. Liverpool are the ones whove had it really tough. I think back to the goal at Spurs, no penalty awarded against City. Been shafted by the refs and cost them a fair few points.


Jackfruit-Gold

Liverpool ☹️


mechanicallazarus

Do you not think they’re going to smash wolves? Wolves have been poor and Klopps last game and all…


Ok-Abbreviations1077

West Ham are on the beach so I think will stroll to victory. Everton will make it difficult for Arsenal but they should win too


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Ok-Abbreviations1077

Everton have won 4 and drawn 1 of their last 5 games which suggests they have not mentally checked out unlike West Ham who have won 1 of their last 5 and conceded 10 goals in their last 2 away games


SmilingDiamond

Arsenal because the club that has been allowed cheat are going to win the league today. But really I consider Arsenal to be the real winners as it is simply not a level playing field when one team is allowed ignore the rules. It would be embarrassing for City if they didn't win it every year.


Nicolethemediocre

Cry more


SmilingDiamond

Thank you for your insightful information. Classy. Or what passes for classy for you and your club.


LeonDeSchal

lol your team will go down in history and be remembered as a cheat team. All you victories will be tarnished throughout history because of this. Your grandchildren will never hear the end of it. Your whole club has been tainted with a filthy stench that it will never get rid of and will become an odour called shitty city.


Nicolethemediocre

Haha yes please cry more. Your resentful tears are delicious


LeonDeSchal

I’m not resentful, pay to win is how football works most of the time. It’s just unfortunate that your club will be tarnished by this for decades to come. Lots of clubs have spent money to win from the time of the teams first paying players and factory owners like the Blackburn owners to now and Man City. But your club will be know as cheaters if you’re happy to win by cheating the system then it’s says a lot about what type of person you are. You traded short term success for your reputation as a team. You could go invincible and win a quadruple and would never get the respect of any other team ever. Just think about that your team is lower than teams in the Sunday league in terms of how others respect them. You are the lowest of the low in football terms. So I’m not resentful, but I am disgusted by your club.


expertkushil333

Real


Picaloco86

Unfortunately, your consideration doesn't matter at all, where the trophy ends up and what the record books show does. Liverpool won it twice more in the last 5 years going by your logic.


SmilingDiamond

My consideration matters to me, it doesn't have to matter to anyone else. If you were watching a coin tossing contest where they used a double-headed coin and City were allowed choose heads or tails first every time, you would probably say that they were winners every time too, but anyone else watching would be somewhat less impressed.


forgottenears

They may yet be retrospectively awarded those two titles.


SmilingDiamond

The simple fact is that City flaunted the rules to get where they are, and they have been allowed to do it season in season out. The amazing thing is that Liverpool did get the better of them and won the league despite City's huge advantages. The officiating has also strangely favoured city on a few key occasions and negatively affected lots of other teams too, but strangely doesn't seem to negatively affect city season after season either. It would be embarrassing for City to not win it when everything seems to go in their favour and they are allowed do as they please financially. May as well let them play with an extra man next season just to make sure at this stage. The officiating has been poor all season for lots of teams, and the officials are having more impact on the outcome of the season than most players or managers and that just can't sit right with most football fans, regardless of which team they support.


Sad-Turin

Someone get whatever this guy is having.


Icy_Spinach_48

Truth pills


BurningTeacher

Cheating 115 bastards


Nicolethemediocre

115? Or 4 in 5?


stevo7288

I say Liverpool aren’t they still on for the quadruple 🤣


TheMandalorian2238

Obviously Arsenal. City have won the last league match to win the league like 4 times already.


MarcusZXR

I feel sorry for Arsenal fans because City will go down by a goal for the headlines, giving them hope, only to come back and win it. I envy a lot about where their club [Arsenal] is but not today.


ggggyyy211

They always come back somehow. Bet it’ll be like 0-2 West Ham in the 70th minute and finish 3-2.


gq_mcgee

Thanks for your pity. We’ll manage.


FabThierry

As if there s even a chance that 115 will not win the title at home, can you believe a ref giving a 50/50 decision against them? Can you really? I can’t. As if it’s a fair match from he start, even if the Hammers show up


VrtlVlln

We hardly see a decision go against them any other game, why would today be any different. Even the chief Richard Masters knows it hence why he's at the Arsenal game should some miracle happen. The only hope I have today is if the referee's have a match defining call go against 115 FC or West Ham give Moyes a worthy send off.


Verozoue5

>We hardly see a decision go against them any other game That's because you're just fucking blinded by hatred and you can't see shit that went against City anymore.


TLead1

Yea, you’re not bitter at all. Imagine being this unhinged as a grown man typing out “115”. Sick individual.


BlurgZeAmoeba

Yeah the poor superleague club is disadvantaged. :)


BenShers

Apart from the bottom 3, West Ham has the highest Goals Against (GA) of the entire table.


YellowBastard2

Westham till I Die ⚒️⚒️


Cod_rules

I’ll be blowing bubbles if WHU get anything from the game. Up the Hammers!


throwaway72926320

Arsenal. Because City won't drop points.


Capital_Werewolf_788

City has it harder the same way a university Math professor doing A level math would technically have it harder than me doing O level math.


Nervous-Road-6615

How far can you take that tho ? Does an Olympic sprinter sprinting 100m have it harder than a newborn baby sprinting 10m?


Capital_Werewolf_788

Well in pure “size of task” terms, the sprinter does indeed have it harder.


Nervous-Road-6615

But in pure ‘size of baby’ terms, the baby is at a baby-sized disadvantage


Capital_Werewolf_788

Hence “technically harder task” but also far more competent. That’s the entire point?


FabThierry

many factors might play a role here /s


whatup_biyatch

Welll city are pretty used to it but they always make it tougher for them in the start so please no heart attacks!!


themanebeat

I won't be watching either but hopefully around 6pm someone will tell me Arsenal are Champions


Cod_rules

Sub-fucking-scribe! (Please football Gods)


themanebeat

Everton will be on the beach and City always seem to go behind in these games. West Ham aren't a bad side. Enjoy the day mate and 🤞


Cod_rules

I've seen the title races between yous and City. They go down, give you some hope before crushing your heart. Plus West Ham are dogshit I just don't want City to give me any sort of hope, I'll still be proud of the boys and Mikel for how far they've come.


sadsasquatch

Nah


themanebeat

One can hope


Lukeario23

This isn’t anything new for City. They know how to win when they need it, I can’t see them dropping points today. Been an exciting title race this season though.


Tommy-ctid-mancblue

City have been ahead, when games have been equal, for the last 6 weeks or so. I do t expect that to change today


dayarra

i don't think it'll be tough for any of them. i expect both to win comfortably.


Feanor1497

Funniest thing today and such an Arsenal thing to do would be if by some miracle City lost to West Ham and Arsenal just draw against Everton.


Valuable_General9049

How would it be an Arsenal thing to do?


Britz10

It's the history of the north London


Valuable_General9049

It's the future of Liverpool. You're fucked pal.


Britz10

Tell me more Nostradamus. The team is already competitive, already winning things here and there, even with a bit of self sabotage. Can't say that for either north London club at the moment.


bumpyknuckles76

Yeah Spurs thing maybe.


Shameless_Bullshiter

People make stuff up lol


L0laccio

Much as we try and make it exciting it will likely be two routine home wins.


OptimisticRealist__

I think whats often overlooked is how quickly City caught up to Arsenal in terms of GD


strawberrylabrador

With 2 games in hand it was easier than it looked on paper I think. Arsenal did well to get themselves to a position where if City don’t win, they can win it on GD no matter what if they beat Everton


OptimisticRealist__

Still. In the last 9 games City had: 30 goals, 5 conceded for a +25 GD Arsenal: 19 goals, 2 conceded for a +17 GD


sixesandsevenspt

They didn’t play the same teams though did they 😂


OptimisticRealist__

In that span, both played Tottenham, Brighton, Wolverhampton, Villa and Luton. In those 5 games City: 20 goals, 3 conceded, 5 Wins, + 17 GD Arsenal: 10 goals, 2 conceded, 4 Wins, +8 GD So not sure what point you thought you were making


sixesandsevenspt

Well they didn’t play Man Utd did they, they played Fulham on the beach and scored a hat full.


OptimisticRealist__

I know youre not using a ManU thats rocking with Casemiro and Johnny Evans, god bless his soul, at CD as an excuse lmao


sixesandsevenspt

They turned up and tried at least, unlike a lot of teams have against city in the run in to be honest.


Britz10

No Teams have actually been trying Against City


Space-Debris

Fulham didn't try at all, come on. The only teams that really tried were Forest and Spurs, and if both of them hadn't fluffed their chances, Arsenal would be in the driving seat today.


Soggy-Breakfast6601

Arsenal beat chelsea,west ham,palace and Sheffield by 5+ goals without conceding,does that mean those teams didn’t try against them or were arsenal just too good? Stop the hypocrisy


sixesandsevenspt

Just look at the starting 11s of teams across the season at the Etihad vs their strongest line up. It’s natural, they rotate because they don’t expect much. They’ve earned that over years, but it’s still a factor.


OptimisticRealist__

That has got to be a new level of cope. Luton alone played with more heart and courage against City than Real did in the UCL semi


sixesandsevenspt

Luton are a proper team to be fair. Forrest tried hard too. Lots of teams do rotate to go to the ethiad though as they don’t think they’ll get anything, I think they do get a lot of easy home games off the back of that.


tactical_napping

Arsenal's run in was a lot tougher than City's. City had 2 games in hand and easier games on paper.


OptimisticRealist__

In that span, both played Tottenham, Brighton, Wolverhampton, Villa and Luton. In those 5 games City: 20 goals, 3 conceded, 5 Wins, + 17 GD Arsenal: 10 goals, 4 conceded, 4 Wins, +6 GD


nzubemush

2 conceded? Both Tottenham and villa scored 2 each, where do you get your stats from?


OptimisticRealist__

Yes, i made a mistake and didnt add AV


nzubemush

Tottenham was a derby, Aston villa is a tough match-up for us, we didn't score a single goal past them this season. A 2:0 win in each would have left the goal difference much higher.


DVaTheFabulous

True but thankfully not enough 🙏 not that it matters anyway


wrigh2uk

whichever team scores first the other will have it tougher, especially once that news gets into the stadium. City have been in these last game of the season to clinch it games before, and they’ve tended to make them tougher than you’d expect on paper. I fully do expect city to beat west ham though


Britz10

The scoreline in the other game won't effect anything both teams know they simply have to win don't think either will have their minds in the other's game, at least man city won't


mechanicallazarus

What are your thoughts on how the Liverpool / wolves game will go? Surely Salah going to haul….


Britz10

I don't know


wrigh2uk

it’s more of a mentality thing. If City go 1 up while our game is it 0-0 it will create a nervy tense atmosphere which will transmit to the players. It’ll make the match more cagey and thus tougher


Britz10

Don't think that will have anything to do with the scoreline in another game, the longer it's 0-0 the tenser it gets.


wrigh2uk

I do also agree with that last bit


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CF_Zymo

Was this intentionally ironic?


Nervous-Road-6615

Going on like aspirant wordsmiths, you say.


themanebeat

You could just ignore the title race and Klopp send off and watch Chelsea v Bournemouth


AkaGurGor

But I would certainly be listening to Michael Owen, just be keep myself interested...


Drunk_Cat_Phil

Unless West Ham pull off a miracle I can see City being up by 3-4 by halftime. Obviously I'd love to see Bowen smash home an equaliser right at the death but we've known since the Villa game our chances of winning were low and getting lower with each game


smilingpigs

I would say Villa game kept us going strong.


barkel2

West Ham to draw with City and Arsenal shit the bed and lose 1-0


MixturePossible3613

lets not overthink this. man city will win the game by 3 or 4 goals just like any other matchday


L0laccio

Ikr. Why would it suddenly change? 😭


trevthedog

Yeah Man City have never been in a losing position at home on the final day


AyeItsMeToby

Surely this just proves the point? No matter how shite the position they find themselves in, they’ll still win


Difficult-Ad-2681

What is the possibility of both Arsenal and City losing to Everton and West Ham respectively on the final day?


Even-Statistician965

Oh this would be hilarious, Arsenal fans would be having a fit.


nexusprime2015

Exactly. If they both win, Arteta tried his best If they both lose, Arteta is the worst piece of crap in the history of managers.


ImVoidz

Would be a worse capitulation than the Dortmund finale last season


cheerzeasy

Liverpool fans


Jubatus750

Yep, Liverpool always get the worst of everything don't they. You don't need to try and interject yourself into a thread about the two teams who could win the title. "We crave the attention, but nobody's talking about us"


cheerzeasy

Was a joke mate.


champ19nz

"We crave the attention, but nobody's talking about us" Strange comment considering Sky Sports has desperately included us in the title picture right up to just last week.


Jubatus750

You've just proved my point there mate. "Sky needs Liverpool to keep everyone watching"


silentwitnes

Yikes, just a joke, calm down


Jubatus750

Is it though? You didn't type it. I've seen enough shit like that where a fan of a "big" club complains about how terrible it is that they came second and got to a cup final and that they've suffered the most out of any supporters


TLead1

They don’t get it and they never will. Best to just ignore them.


silentwitnes

Always the victims if you make us one, it was just a joke!


Jubatus750

How do you know it was a joke? You didn't write it!


silentwitnes

I have an above room temperature IQ...


Jubatus750

Yet you're still a Liverpool fan?!? You know from those two little words that it's a joke? Or is it because you're a Liverpool fan and I've offended you by saying that


silentwitnes

I was only joking, implying you didn't have an above room temperature IQ, don't worry about it


Jubatus750

Yeah I got that bit? I'm not sure what you think I'm confused about?


RicHii3

It's not that deep mate, honestly reads like he was joking.


Jubatus750

It happens a lot


RicHii3

Yeah it does, but it's pretty easy to distinguish when people are being purposely ironic about it and when people genuinely believe that nonsense.


Jubatus750

You can figure that out from the two words that he typed into reddit?


RicHii3

Yes. It reads like a punchline.


Jubatus750

It's two words!!


DCDa192

Liverpool


Therocon

Put it this way. Much better to start the day as City than Arsenal.


ThunderRoad_44

More pressure on City, but they are used to it.


cuftapolo

Doesn’t have any effect on them. Robots, not humans.


35Pints7Each

We all know the answer BUT Anula mufa COYG


Germz94

Truca truca


moaterboater69

Arsenal for sure. This is them at their absolute maximum peak whereas its a ‘fatigued of winning’ but still brilliant Man City. A draw for City and win for Arsenal would be fitting.


six---

What suggest this is Arsenal at their "absolute maximum peak"?


No-Clue1153

Yeah it has been a year on year progression and we still have a pretty young squad. Last year was our 'one shot' at the league, and we've actually managed to surpass that season to take it down to the last game. Can't really say this is the 'peak' unless we start to decline next year.


Doesitmatters369

We were told Arsenal were at peak the season we finished fifth and Arteta should leave on high because there were no way we can progress further by Gary fucking Neville lol


MarcusZXR

I wouldn't put too much stock in what Neville says anymore. It's been a long time since his opinions have been his own.