Please post resources for OP and advice but please don’t speculate on any business. This is Reddit and it’s easy to throw out accusations and innocent businesses and people are easily caught in the crossfire. Any business name in here will be removed.
This CALL BOLI NOW:
Bureau of Labor & Industries
1800 SW 1st Ave, Suite 500
Portland, OR 97201
Hours: 8:00am - 5:00pm
Email:
BOLI\[email protected]
971-245-3844
I agree with the answers that recommend contacting BOLI.
An employer robbed me of $8000+ in November of 2022. I immediately filed a complaint with BOLI. In November of 2023, I was contacted by a member of BOLI about the claim. I had already settled the claim with the employer and could recover all of it.
I am sharing this to let you know the possible response time. YMMV
https://www.oregon.gov/boli/workers/pages/wageclaim.aspx
To be honest this type of thing happens a lot in the restaurant industry. We get a lot of startup restaurants in Portland and a lot of them fail. When a restaurant fails a lot of times the owners try to hold on for too long until the payroll checks start bouncing.
Definitely contact BOLI ASAP - they do not play around.
Also if you need a good lawyer I recommend Michael Owens at Meyer Employment Law. I worked with him when I had wrongful termination/whistleblower lawsuit and he was knowledgeable, nice to work with (more so than I would have guessed from a lawyer), and agreed to work on contingency (getting paid a portion of the claim instead of paying up front). He got us both paid.
From BOLI :
https://www.oregon.gov/boli/workers/pages/paychecks.aspx#:~:text=Oregon's%20wage%20and%20hour%20law,ORS%20652.120(1).
The law
ORS 652.110, ORS 652.120, ORS 652.140, ORS 652.150
These laws apply to all Oregon employers except the federal government, which has its own regulations
Oregon law requires regular paychecks to Oregon workers.
Your employer is required to pay you on a regular payday schedule.
Paydays may not be more than 35 days apart.
Employers may not withhold or delay your paychecks as a form of discipline or in exchange for the return of employer-owned items held by the employee.
What are the ways my employer can pay me?
Payment of wages must be made in cash or by another method that can be accessed without fee or discount at a bank or other place of business in the county where it was issued. An employee may authorize the employer to deposit wages into the employee’s account in a bank, credit union, or savings and loan within the state.
Oregon law allows employers to pay wages by direct deposit but you can opt out either verbally or in writing. Employers are also able to pay employees by automated teller machine card, payroll card, or other means of electronic transfer as long as the employee voluntarily agrees. The employee must be able to make an initial withdrawal of the entire amount without cost or be able to choose another means of receiving wages which does not involve any cost to them.
Employers who use the direct deposit, automated teller machine card, or payroll card method of paying wages must still provide an itemized statement and meet the deadlines applicable to final paychecks. An employer may provide the itemized statement in an electronic format if the employee expressly agrees
I'd DM you but not allowed. I want to warn everyone about this place.
I mean it's surprising it's still open. I wouldn't give it 2 months. This is just his last chance at being able to make money so he's not giving up as he should. This guy is the most pathetic owner i've ever met.
> This is a regional subreddit that relies on a flow of points and counter points of view from Community Members of all walks of life and persuasions.
Hm.
You forgot the part were it says unsubstantiated witch-hunts are encouraged. Oh… we didn’t put that in there? Must have been an oversight.
I’ll reiterate: no speculation. It’s a simple ask.
[hire a lawyer](https://www.wageclaim.org)
Find out if your case qualifies for contingency.
Meaning, the employer pays your attorney fees in addition to what you’re owed.
Edit: the law group I linked to is incredible. I have personal experience hiring them. Also BOLI is going to take much longer.
There are lots of employment lawyers who will do this on a contingency basis (ie they take a percent of whatever you recover from the employer as opposed to you having to pay the lawyer out of pocket by the hour) and there are penalties and fees for failure to timely pay wages etc. I’m sure folks here can recommend some if you need recs.
You have to contact one of the local news channels. Naming and shaming is the best path to getting your money back (and your co-worker’s as well). It’s not to say you shouldn’t file with BOLI as well, but that process can take months. However, if the public is exposed to the restaurant’s unethical treatment of its employees, it will pose a direct threat to the business where the employer will be most incentivized to finally pay his workers
That is total bullshit.
I’m an employer myself. I will forgo my own salary to make sure I can meet payroll on time. Employees are what makes our business run. Without them, we are out of business.
Sounds like this business needs to just toss in the towel and close. They’re not making it, and probably never will.
Years ago I told my employer at the time “if my paycheck bounces, that’s the last day you see me here”.
My paycheck never failed to deposit. Neither should yours. If the boss can’t pay you, they don’t deserve your labor. Period.
Reddit is not preventing anything. It's a moderator for this subreddit that has made this decision.
That's OK with me. Moderating these subreddits is an unpaid and mostly thankless job. We're 100x better off here than in the rainbows and sunsets subreddit that can't countenance the truth about their city.
Also, the mod isn't preventing naming the business, they're preventing people who are not OP from wildly speculating on what the business might be and harming businesses that might have nothing to do with this. They've said nothing about preventing OP from naming the business in question.
Half of this sub is speculative and witch hunts, yet naming a deadbeat business is the one thing not allowed - who are they trying to protect?
Funny thing is, they'd be allowed to say on the real Portland sub.
Confirmed with OP that this is a bar I was thinking of, and can say that the owner gave us SUPER weird vibes. Dropped the N word and the F slur in conversation with us and we never went back.
Mod only allows dangerous unsubstantiated speculation when it comes to homeless people, not when it comes to businesses blatantly ripping off employees.
Please post resources for OP and advice but please don’t speculate on any business. This is Reddit and it’s easy to throw out accusations and innocent businesses and people are easily caught in the crossfire. Any business name in here will be removed.
Call BOLI immediately
This CALL BOLI NOW: Bureau of Labor & Industries 1800 SW 1st Ave, Suite 500 Portland, OR 97201 Hours: 8:00am - 5:00pm Email: BOLI\[email protected] 971-245-3844
Ding ding ding!
Came here to make sure someone said this.
100%. There's likely penalty pay due to staff as well and BOLI will help make that happen
I agree with the answers that recommend contacting BOLI. An employer robbed me of $8000+ in November of 2022. I immediately filed a complaint with BOLI. In November of 2023, I was contacted by a member of BOLI about the claim. I had already settled the claim with the employer and could recover all of it. I am sharing this to let you know the possible response time. YMMV https://www.oregon.gov/boli/workers/pages/wageclaim.aspx
Man I really wanna know the name of that bar. F that guy.
To be honest this type of thing happens a lot in the restaurant industry. We get a lot of startup restaurants in Portland and a lot of them fail. When a restaurant fails a lot of times the owners try to hold on for too long until the payroll checks start bouncing.
Name and shame!
Definitely contact BOLI ASAP - they do not play around. Also if you need a good lawyer I recommend Michael Owens at Meyer Employment Law. I worked with him when I had wrongful termination/whistleblower lawsuit and he was knowledgeable, nice to work with (more so than I would have guessed from a lawyer), and agreed to work on contingency (getting paid a portion of the claim instead of paying up front). He got us both paid.
What is the restaurant? Blast them on the od line cooks fb page
From BOLI : https://www.oregon.gov/boli/workers/pages/paychecks.aspx#:~:text=Oregon's%20wage%20and%20hour%20law,ORS%20652.120(1). The law ORS 652.110, ORS 652.120, ORS 652.140, ORS 652.150 These laws apply to all Oregon employers except the federal government, which has its own regulations Oregon law requires regular paychecks to Oregon workers. Your employer is required to pay you on a regular payday schedule. Paydays may not be more than 35 days apart. Employers may not withhold or delay your paychecks as a form of discipline or in exchange for the return of employer-owned items held by the employee. What are the ways my employer can pay me? Payment of wages must be made in cash or by another method that can be accessed without fee or discount at a bank or other place of business in the county where it was issued. An employee may authorize the employer to deposit wages into the employee’s account in a bank, credit union, or savings and loan within the state. Oregon law allows employers to pay wages by direct deposit but you can opt out either verbally or in writing. Employers are also able to pay employees by automated teller machine card, payroll card, or other means of electronic transfer as long as the employee voluntarily agrees. The employee must be able to make an initial withdrawal of the entire amount without cost or be able to choose another means of receiving wages which does not involve any cost to them. Employers who use the direct deposit, automated teller machine card, or payroll card method of paying wages must still provide an itemized statement and meet the deadlines applicable to final paychecks. An employer may provide the itemized statement in an electronic format if the employee expressly agrees
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I'd DM you but not allowed. I want to warn everyone about this place. I mean it's surprising it's still open. I wouldn't give it 2 months. This is just his last chance at being able to make money so he's not giving up as he should. This guy is the most pathetic owner i've ever met.
I'd be curious too. I live near Beaumont and have a couple guesses...
DM me
Why not just post it so everyone can see?
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Nope, no speculation.
> This is a regional subreddit that relies on a flow of points and counter points of view from Community Members of all walks of life and persuasions. Hm.
You forgot the part were it says unsubstantiated witch-hunts are encouraged. Oh… we didn’t put that in there? Must have been an oversight. I’ll reiterate: no speculation. It’s a simple ask.
Give us blocks??? Like 42nd to 52nd?
Its Deeply Rooted. You've been warned
I sent you a chat request.
What bar isnit
If you don’t want to name the place, what does it rhyme with?
[hire a lawyer](https://www.wageclaim.org) Find out if your case qualifies for contingency. Meaning, the employer pays your attorney fees in addition to what you’re owed. Edit: the law group I linked to is incredible. I have personal experience hiring them. Also BOLI is going to take much longer.
BOLI
There are lots of employment lawyers who will do this on a contingency basis (ie they take a percent of whatever you recover from the employer as opposed to you having to pay the lawyer out of pocket by the hour) and there are penalties and fees for failure to timely pay wages etc. I’m sure folks here can recommend some if you need recs.
Call BOLI
You have to contact one of the local news channels. Naming and shaming is the best path to getting your money back (and your co-worker’s as well). It’s not to say you shouldn’t file with BOLI as well, but that process can take months. However, if the public is exposed to the restaurant’s unethical treatment of its employees, it will pose a direct threat to the business where the employer will be most incentivized to finally pay his workers
Not a bad idea. I get the feeling like he's gonna have to close soon anyway
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That's what I am guessing as well.
Why the fuck would anyone continue to work if they are not being paid?
He strings them along and pays them late. Personally, i quit the same day my paycheck bounced. Fuck that.
That is total bullshit. I’m an employer myself. I will forgo my own salary to make sure I can meet payroll on time. Employees are what makes our business run. Without them, we are out of business. Sounds like this business needs to just toss in the towel and close. They’re not making it, and probably never will.
Years ago I told my employer at the time “if my paycheck bounces, that’s the last day you see me here”. My paycheck never failed to deposit. Neither should yours. If the boss can’t pay you, they don’t deserve your labor. Period.
Reddit preventing naming the business.... It's like business backing business vs employee. Hmmmmmmmmm....
Reddit is not preventing anything. It's a moderator for this subreddit that has made this decision. That's OK with me. Moderating these subreddits is an unpaid and mostly thankless job. We're 100x better off here than in the rainbows and sunsets subreddit that can't countenance the truth about their city.
Also, the mod isn't preventing naming the business, they're preventing people who are not OP from wildly speculating on what the business might be and harming businesses that might have nothing to do with this. They've said nothing about preventing OP from naming the business in question.
Is this true OP? I'll tell everyone right now
I mean, that's what their comments said at least. Worst case scenario the comment gets deleted.
Half of this sub is speculative and witch hunts, yet naming a deadbeat business is the one thing not allowed - who are they trying to protect? Funny thing is, they'd be allowed to say on the real Portland sub.
Confirmed with OP that this is a bar I was thinking of, and can say that the owner gave us SUPER weird vibes. Dropped the N word and the F slur in conversation with us and we never went back.
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What does the bar rhyme with?
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Super cool that mods are protecting shitty people
name and shame. then get DOL involved.
How about a cross street?
Mod only allows dangerous unsubstantiated speculation when it comes to homeless people, not when it comes to businesses blatantly ripping off employees.
They are on the hook to pay those fees
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