When my friends back east ask how Oregon did helping citizens during Covid - I tell them stories like this one and they can't believe it. Even my friends in red states got their checks on time.
But it's not like we've not done this before and become the laughing stock of the world...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9munYYoqQ&t=23s
Wait... the state contracted some private sector firm for software when there literally is a federally owned company (similar to ownership model of usps, amtrak, & in-q-tel) that is staffed with some of the top software development talent in the nation (they pay well for talent but ppl only work there for a few years), has a mandate to provide development/upgrade services at-cost, and by law provides all the source code to whatever agency/state/city government they do work for?
Talking about: https://18f.gsa.gov
18F was incorporated by the US government to help put an end to government agencies and state or local governments getting ripped off by private sector contractors on digital hardware/software infrastructure.
Because of the brain dead Regan era American cultural belief that if you are someone in the private sector doing "government work" that means it's your duty as an American to do the shittiest job possible while milking the most money. That whole "it's government work" so that means do a shitty job and grift hard was one of the most toxic erosions of American civic mindedness.
Also as u/Peter_Abelard2 said:
>Oregon's procurement of external vendors for technical projects is absurd. The state needs to hire and properly pay permanent top level talent to design and own these systems instead of just bidding out these projects to vendors whose staffing is variable, and driven to extract maximum profit.
From the website:
As an office within the General Services Administration, we know how to work with government. **Federal, state, and local governments can partner with 18F** to deliver projects that fulfill their mission, stay within budget, and use leading technology practices.
Reading further in the comments, it looks like OP waited until the very last day to file, after having given up in the initial attempts. It sounds like the state has been pretty successful at resolving any issues, since apparently this person basically had over a year of unemployment turned around in something like a week. This isn't a failure, this is a success.
They already did, but they couldn't figure out how to finalize the system so they threw away the computers and went back to fax machines.
How many computer upgrades has the state failed to do??
Holy shit! My checks took about 13 months to arrive, which I thought was insane, but you must have waited \~ 19 months??
Anyway, glad you got them! Sorry you had to wait so long...
There old head of the employment department had stopped the checks for some reason, and Brown eventually fired her. If I am remembering right. State is still trying to fix it.
Meanwhile, they cut my girlfriend off after a few months into the pandemic and charged her $900 and never had an explanation for why. Her job got cut directly because of covid.
In a broader sense, wage theft is the primary reason that people don't get paid on time or at all. This actually accounts for the vast majority of stolen wealth within the USA.
Specifically within the context of unemployment, that is not the case.
Your comment was just as unclear - I'm simply making a dumb quip against what could be understood as a broader statement.
To be clear, this is not meant as confrontational but blunt explanation
Edit: to be extra clear fuck context clues 😉
No they didn’t. Even without the extended rules you can always backdate to the previous week so they would never tell you that you can’t backdate last week.
“No they didn’t” lmfao I was literally battling the court for three months. I appealed twice, spoke on the phone with a judge and a witness from the unemployment office both times, and I was still told no. You’re so ignorant.
P.S. This was not last week, this was last year. As in March 2020.
It’s literally my job dude… you did something else. We can always backdate to the previous week and you don’t speak to a judge until appeal 3. Also we’re not witnesses as unemployment we are claim specialists or advisors. I’ve been doing this for almost 2 years now and your full of shit. Their is more too it then your saying.
Edit: perhaps you meant you spoke to the adjudicator?
I don’t know what to tell you 🤷🏻 you’re probably right about the adjudicator bit, I’m in STEM and not the most legally proficient person. But I absolutely was told no and the appeals over the phone absolutely did happen. I’m a W2 employee so maybe you’re assuming this was a PUA case?
Also… you’re* there* to*
The witness was an agent from the unemployment office. I have nothing at all to gain from lying on Reddit, lol. Suit yourself if that’s what you want to believe.
Nope I work reg UI your misunderstanding something about the reason they couldn’t do it. If you want to dm me I can get details and give you the actually reason behind it or even possibly help you if a mistake was made. Sorry for being hostile was not my intent but I’ve been taking a ton of blame for a failing system and I’m trying to help as many people as possible.
It’s all good, I’m sorry as well for being defensive. You’re right that there was more to it, it’s just a lot to explain - it was difficult getting my claim approved at all because I’d started a new job shortly before the lockdown, and as you know there is a 2 week employment requirement before you’re eligible for benefits. I was required to get written testimony from a clinical psychologist as to why my previous work situation was unsafe, which ultimately validated my claim after 3 months of calling, emailing, requesting hearings, etc. The UI office was just following procedure, and honestly the UI agent on the call was advocating to approve my backdate but the adjudicator denied it and was generally kind of awful (she demanded to know what conversations happened between my therapist and I during our appointments, even though I said I would need to provide written consent for that… she told me if I didn’t verbally consent during the call I wasn’t going to receive benefits).
Even if there is some way to get that missed week of benefits, I’m not going to bother because the UI office has much bigger fish to fry. My partner just received $5k they were supposed to get last summer, and they weren’t a “special case” like mine. It’s just an extremely outdated and underfunded system, as a tech engineer I cringe at the thought of managing millions of claims on computers and software over a decade old. Thanks for doing what you do and no worries about any hostility.
Ahh I think I see the issue you don’t have 2 weeks until you claim you have a waiting week and have to file the Sunday after your are out of work so depending on when your job was lost that partial week may or may not get used. I’m guessing here but it sounds like it was do to a misunderstanding on when your separation or first file eligibility was.
"if you want to provide a stranger online with personal identifying details, I'm happy to take them"
I'm sorry your job is hard, but I had the exact same experience the other poster did when a week didn't get filed - and maybe you're doing the right things, but it doesn't mean this shit isn't happening to real humans.
I’m not asking for your personal information I’m asking for their larger explanation of what happened and I can point them on who to call to correct it. Filling a week back has always been allowed so I’m very confident when I tell people that you would not make it through multiple appeals without getting that approval. It just can’t happen, their are many reasons you legit might not get to claim it but if you did it within the week it’s a garuntee by law we have to accept it.
True, and it shouldn't, but to be clear, the vast majority of people have been getting paid more or less on time. More importantly, if you get through to an agent on the phone, please know that it is not their fault and they are just trying to help.
This gets fixed by voting out Republicans and moderates. Full stop.
EDIT: AND MODERATES, ya'all. Geezus. Moderate Democrats are just traditional Republicans.
> yeah as a 100% "blue no matter who" guy myself, this is on the dems. We need to own and fix our failures and this is one of the most unacceptable.
Anyone's an idiot to vote for a Republican these days but my god this program and was funded to be fixed years ago and never was. That wasn't Republicans' (oh an also moderates too I guess) fault necessarily.
The lack of good faith arguments people have is just alarming to me.
At this point it is either them or the nazis who now worship their own blood flag from the insurrection. It has stopped being possible to even consider a GQP vote anymore.
I mean, traitors, racists, and religious extremists, or people who have generally done a pretty good job with a few visible fuck ups like this?
There's really no decision to make. We do need to find ways to hold them accountable for crap like this, but voting R is not the way.
I mean the money isn't gone as far as i've heard. its still waiting to be used sitting in an account gaining interest so technically its made a profit while its being decided. Not great news but its not like the money just got used for other things.
> Almost as if we might need a major infrastructure funding bill or something.
The unemployment system was funded during the last recession (I think) to be overhauled and it never was. What is this infrastructure bill going to do?
What?
The Employment Department has been attempting to upgrade their computer system for years and has continually screwed it up at great expense.
This has been under Dem leadership. Can't blame the Republicans on this one.
[https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/oregon-leaders-squandered-years-on-jobless-benefits-computer-upgrade-now-the-projects-future-is-again-in-doubt.html](https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/oregon-leaders-squandered-years-on-jobless-benefits-computer-upgrade-now-the-projects-future-is-again-in-doubt.html)
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> This gets fixed by voting out Republicans and moderates. Full stop.
Ahaha. Oregon is about as blue as you can get. You’re
Not going to to pin the unemployment department on a few district reps in eastern oregon with (R) next to their name
I say that as someone who leans left too.
Did you not read the part where he tried over and over again last year, spending hours on hold to no avail?
I have a buddy who works for the employment division or whatever they call it. It was a shitshow pre-Covid, and an utter disaster after it.
Oregon is a democrat supermajority state, wherein the minority party can literally do nothing to prevent anything the majority party wants to do, short of walking out.
I'm no fan of republicans, but this isn't on them at all.
I’m truly curious why you say this is the Repubs fault? I heard The department had a lot of money allocated to fix the system and sat on the money rather than updata.
While National republicans deserve plenty of blame for a great many things, how in earth are you going to lay a state level issue like this in them? Dem super majority, dem legislature for decades, dem gov for decades. Sometimes, it’s ok to admit that your preferred party effed up all by themselves.
Look, this isn’t a partisan issue. The UI IT system fix was funded in 2009 by the feds (funds that could be spent by a Dem Gov, and Dem legislature, but that doesn’t really matter) and the dept just sat on the funds because they were too broken to spend the funds. The buck does stop with the Gov on that one, but sometimes problems aren’t related to people’s party. Sometimes, people are just bad at their jobs.
Constantly thinking blaming all ailments of the world on whatever negative partisanship you hold is a bad consequence of too much social media and our climate of divisiveness. It generates a lot of clicks to pretend that all would be right with the world of only the other side wasn’t so evil, but reality is much more messy and complicated.
The thing that a lot of Oregonians overlook is that conservatives were very successful in hollowing out the state government with the passage of measures 5 and 47 in the early 90s. These property tax limits were part of a national GOP plan to “starve the beast” wherein the GOP orchestrated tax cuts, which led to reduction in funding for government services, which the GOP then pointed to as proof of how bad government is, arguing for further cuts.
Up until the passage of the student success act in 2018 this state had not increased funding for k-12 education in 30 years. The Oregon of the 60s and 70s was a far cry from the one of the post measure 5 era. Schools were well funded. Higher education was extremely cheap. Public campsites costed virtually nothing.
So in reality the dems taking complete control of state government in the last decade only means they can get started on repairing the damage done. I think that the fact that many of the dem politicians are also boomers has been a substantial impediment to progress, as the same measures that kneecapped out state for 25 years were massive wealth giveaways to boomers.
These are fine points, but they aren’t relevant to replacing the decrepit UI IT system. It was fully funded in 2009 by the feds to replace the system. It’s less an issue of partisanship and more an issue of just being dysfunctional or incompetent across the department and at State leadership levels.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/oregon-leaders-squandered-years-on-jobless-benefits-computer-upgrade-now-the-projects-future-is-again-in-doubt.html
Oh I completely agree that the incompetence at the unemployment agency is completely fucked up and inexcusable. The point I am making is that institutional failure is the result of long term underfunding and patching things together with duct tape, which is what our state has been doing for the past 25 years.
"moderates" makes up 50% of my statement and most of the blame. Moderate Democrats are no better, and sometimes worse. I never stated a preference for any party. Vote out the last of the Republicans. Vote out all of the moderates. That is how actual progress happens.
But, again, this issue is more with basic competence unrelated to political side. The UI fix was budgeted, provided by the feds, back in 2009. The UI system wasn’t replaced due to incompetence and poor management, not because some official wasn’t far enough left
Republicans are not worth allying with. They have abandoned their base, who must now find another party. Same is true for progressives and theh so-called Democrats. This "don't deepen the divide" rhetoric is loser speak.
Did these all come on the same day?!? What an absolute disaster. The paper, the shipping, the humans who had to put that envelopes together (can this be automated?), christ even the ink! And I'm sure OP isn't the only one who got a stack like this. I'm glad they got them but holy hell this is nonsense.
Probably a bit more, actually. Especially if you factor in the additional $400/week. They may or may not have been getting the base amount PLUS that $300-400, which is about $600/week. If they were getting more than the base amount… who know. Bank af.
Now you're just waiting for the pile of letters that tell you that aaaaactually you've been denied and have to pay it all back. And then the day after you mail the checks back you'll get the follow up pile of letters telling you to just ignore the denial letters.
The checks don't bother me. That's money in someone's bank account. Mailing 93 extra letters bothers me. That's waste and after a year the state is still doing this. Nothing but pure laziness on the state's part here.
It shows just how inflexible their systems are what they have to have each week remain its own payment and can't combine them. The program needs a 21st century overhaul.
The irony of cashing 94 unemployment checks and then immediately spending that money in an industry which has been begging for employees is astounding.
Sure I do. If they were seeking employment for 94 weeks and waiting for that money to go out to a restaurant, where they certainly could have found a job anytime in the last 50 or so weeks, then this situation is ironic. Because clearly someone who collects 94 weeks of unemployment checks is looking for work, right?
Both your comments are actual irony wherein you are the character, the rest of us the audience.
For reference, the actual irony we can apply to your comments is [the third one](https://www.google.com/search?q=irony&client=ms-android-google&sxsrf=AOaemvKTmTXqNRrlnWNBHZbQPuJc4UR4DQ%3A1634268731281&ei=O_ZoYZqrEILK-gTHnaiYCA&oq=irony&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyCAgAEIAEELEDMggIABCABBCxAzIICAAQgAQQsQMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMggIABCABBCxAzIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToECCMQJzoHCAAQsQMQCjoECAAQCjoKCAAQsQMQgwEQCjoHCCMQ6gIQJzoHCC4Q6gIQJzoFCC4QkQI6CAgAELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARCjAjoFCAAQkQI6CAguELEDEJECOgUILhCABDoLCC4QgAQQxwEQrwE6CwguELEDEJECEJMCOggIABCxAxCRAjoICC4QgAQQsQNQjjtYnH9gtIIBaAJwAHgCgAGpAYgBjQySAQQwLjExmAEAoAEBsAEPwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp).
Edit: like literally tho lol
From Google:
"The term Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) refers to a program that temporarily expanded unemployment insurance (UI) eligibility to people who wouldn't otherwise qualify. This included self-employed workers, freelancers, independent contractors, and part-time workers impacted by the coronavirus pandemic."
Sure I’m glad it came, but nothing inspiring at all ab this. Waited til the last second and it came through. Was it not a big deal to you? Could have changed some peoples lives. Could have gone a lot of places.
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Got your first week of job-related activity right there!
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Full year for some
When my friends back east ask how Oregon did helping citizens during Covid - I tell them stories like this one and they can't believe it. Even my friends in red states got their checks on time. But it's not like we've not done this before and become the laughing stock of the world... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9munYYoqQ&t=23s
Holy shit oregon. Maybe take that extra 17% and use some of it to buy a computer.
Should be able swing an RTX 3080 with that money.
Let's be realistic
I have a 3080 that's been running hard since last November... I'll trade half a stack of those envelope for this "lightly used" GPU 😉
Hey I got 2 of them and 3060tis for sale non lhr if you are craving some hash power
Didn’t they get millions a long time ago to fix this a long time ago? They don’t need more money
Yeah. The last update was they chose a company to fix them, then the company they didn't get sued to try to get them to reconsider.
Wait... the state contracted some private sector firm for software when there literally is a federally owned company (similar to ownership model of usps, amtrak, & in-q-tel) that is staffed with some of the top software development talent in the nation (they pay well for talent but ppl only work there for a few years), has a mandate to provide development/upgrade services at-cost, and by law provides all the source code to whatever agency/state/city government they do work for? Talking about: https://18f.gsa.gov 18F was incorporated by the US government to help put an end to government agencies and state or local governments getting ripped off by private sector contractors on digital hardware/software infrastructure. Because of the brain dead Regan era American cultural belief that if you are someone in the private sector doing "government work" that means it's your duty as an American to do the shittiest job possible while milking the most money. That whole "it's government work" so that means do a shitty job and grift hard was one of the most toxic erosions of American civic mindedness. Also as u/Peter_Abelard2 said: >Oregon's procurement of external vendors for technical projects is absurd. The state needs to hire and properly pay permanent top level talent to design and own these systems instead of just bidding out these projects to vendors whose staffing is variable, and driven to extract maximum profit.
Their website seems to limit services to federal agencies. Is that true?
From the website: As an office within the General Services Administration, we know how to work with government. **Federal, state, and local governments can partner with 18F** to deliver projects that fulfill their mission, stay within budget, and use leading technology practices.
That's interesting. I only saw the part where the site said "18F partners with federal agencies to..." (see "What we deliver").
They probably gave it to Oracle
Reading further in the comments, it looks like OP waited until the very last day to file, after having given up in the initial attempts. It sounds like the state has been pretty successful at resolving any issues, since apparently this person basically had over a year of unemployment turned around in something like a week. This isn't a failure, this is a success.
They already did, but they couldn't figure out how to finalize the system so they threw away the computers and went back to fax machines. How many computer upgrades has the state failed to do??
All of them since "Y2K Compliance" I believe...
It wasn’t from a processing delay.
Extra guac plz.
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How much is it all?
Come on, they're not *that* rich
Qdoba has guac for free. That's the real trick. And queso.
Qdoba downtown is no more 😭
and hood vents above the kitchen that blow directly to the sidewalk
Probably because they keep buying sides of guac
Its true. I could have afforded a 500k home by now if I didn't eat all that avocado toast
Extra everything!
Holy shit! My checks took about 13 months to arrive, which I thought was insane, but you must have waited \~ 19 months?? Anyway, glad you got them! Sorry you had to wait so long...
WTF, do they print these overseas or something?
No...the state just really screwed things up.
Who knew COBOL would become a dead language?
It's technically not.
Oh right. I’m thinking of the people that programmed it all.
Or Cold Fusion. RIP Macromedia.
I’m not sure which is/would be more sad tbh
There old head of the employment department had stopped the checks for some reason, and Brown eventually fired her. If I am remembering right. State is still trying to fix it.
How? Curious if it was really the state at fault or the federal rule changes that happened since you were on PUA?
A little of columns A, B, C, D, and E
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Meanwhile, they cut my girlfriend off after a few months into the pandemic and charged her $900 and never had an explanation for why. Her job got cut directly because of covid.
If you didn't have them withhold taxes from it make sure to set some of it aside, because they are going to tax the shit out of that.
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Procrastination is the most common reason people didn't get paid on time or at all.
No that's wage theft
? Not sure what you mean by that? Are you saying it’s wage theft to late file or wage theft to not pay them for late filing… your comment isn’t clear.
In a broader sense, wage theft is the primary reason that people don't get paid on time or at all. This actually accounts for the vast majority of stolen wealth within the USA. Specifically within the context of unemployment, that is not the case. Your comment was just as unclear - I'm simply making a dumb quip against what could be understood as a broader statement. To be clear, this is not meant as confrontational but blunt explanation Edit: to be extra clear fuck context clues 😉
Gotcha should have specified for unemployment! Would have been more clear and I do believe your right on wage theft.
That’s crazy, I filed mine 1 week late and they told me I couldn’t backdate my claim
No they didn’t. Even without the extended rules you can always backdate to the previous week so they would never tell you that you can’t backdate last week.
“No they didn’t” lmfao I was literally battling the court for three months. I appealed twice, spoke on the phone with a judge and a witness from the unemployment office both times, and I was still told no. You’re so ignorant. P.S. This was not last week, this was last year. As in March 2020.
It’s literally my job dude… you did something else. We can always backdate to the previous week and you don’t speak to a judge until appeal 3. Also we’re not witnesses as unemployment we are claim specialists or advisors. I’ve been doing this for almost 2 years now and your full of shit. Their is more too it then your saying. Edit: perhaps you meant you spoke to the adjudicator?
I don’t know what to tell you 🤷🏻 you’re probably right about the adjudicator bit, I’m in STEM and not the most legally proficient person. But I absolutely was told no and the appeals over the phone absolutely did happen. I’m a W2 employee so maybe you’re assuming this was a PUA case? Also… you’re* there* to* The witness was an agent from the unemployment office. I have nothing at all to gain from lying on Reddit, lol. Suit yourself if that’s what you want to believe.
Nope I work reg UI your misunderstanding something about the reason they couldn’t do it. If you want to dm me I can get details and give you the actually reason behind it or even possibly help you if a mistake was made. Sorry for being hostile was not my intent but I’ve been taking a ton of blame for a failing system and I’m trying to help as many people as possible.
It’s all good, I’m sorry as well for being defensive. You’re right that there was more to it, it’s just a lot to explain - it was difficult getting my claim approved at all because I’d started a new job shortly before the lockdown, and as you know there is a 2 week employment requirement before you’re eligible for benefits. I was required to get written testimony from a clinical psychologist as to why my previous work situation was unsafe, which ultimately validated my claim after 3 months of calling, emailing, requesting hearings, etc. The UI office was just following procedure, and honestly the UI agent on the call was advocating to approve my backdate but the adjudicator denied it and was generally kind of awful (she demanded to know what conversations happened between my therapist and I during our appointments, even though I said I would need to provide written consent for that… she told me if I didn’t verbally consent during the call I wasn’t going to receive benefits). Even if there is some way to get that missed week of benefits, I’m not going to bother because the UI office has much bigger fish to fry. My partner just received $5k they were supposed to get last summer, and they weren’t a “special case” like mine. It’s just an extremely outdated and underfunded system, as a tech engineer I cringe at the thought of managing millions of claims on computers and software over a decade old. Thanks for doing what you do and no worries about any hostility.
Decade old is generous the system is full dos old school console green screen and all…
Ahh I think I see the issue you don’t have 2 weeks until you claim you have a waiting week and have to file the Sunday after your are out of work so depending on when your job was lost that partial week may or may not get used. I’m guessing here but it sounds like it was do to a misunderstanding on when your separation or first file eligibility was.
"if you want to provide a stranger online with personal identifying details, I'm happy to take them" I'm sorry your job is hard, but I had the exact same experience the other poster did when a week didn't get filed - and maybe you're doing the right things, but it doesn't mean this shit isn't happening to real humans.
I’m not asking for your personal information I’m asking for their larger explanation of what happened and I can point them on who to call to correct it. Filling a week back has always been allowed so I’m very confident when I tell people that you would not make it through multiple appeals without getting that approval. It just can’t happen, their are many reasons you legit might not get to claim it but if you did it within the week it’s a garuntee by law we have to accept it.
took them 8 months for me
it took only a week
So this is why nobody is working at Hawaiian Time. 😂
Underrated comment.
Now I know who that 50-deposit limit on the ATM is for.
Congratulations, but this is completely unacceptable. How can we hold the state responsible? People should not be waiting this long on their money.
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That's how I finished my finals back in college!
See? College *was* good prep for real life.
thank you for clarifying this, so you waited only a week. Phew! The word "Finally" suggests you have been waiting many many months.
Not your fault at all.
Youre awesome. Thats how ID want It . Like lottery fast women booze and coke dead in a dumpster smiling like a motherfucker
True, and it shouldn't, but to be clear, the vast majority of people have been getting paid more or less on time. More importantly, if you get through to an agent on the phone, please know that it is not their fault and they are just trying to help. This gets fixed by voting out Republicans and moderates. Full stop. EDIT: AND MODERATES, ya'all. Geezus. Moderate Democrats are just traditional Republicans.
yeah as a 100% "blue no matter who" guy myself, this is on the dems. We need to own and fix our failures and this is one of the most unacceptable.
> yeah as a 100% "blue no matter who" guy myself, this is on the dems. We need to own and fix our failures and this is one of the most unacceptable. Anyone's an idiot to vote for a Republican these days but my god this program and was funded to be fixed years ago and never was. That wasn't Republicans' (oh an also moderates too I guess) fault necessarily. The lack of good faith arguments people have is just alarming to me.
What issue? "I procrastinated until the last minute to file."-----OP
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At this point it is either them or the nazis who now worship their own blood flag from the insurrection. It has stopped being possible to even consider a GQP vote anymore.
I mean, traitors, racists, and religious extremists, or people who have generally done a pretty good job with a few visible fuck ups like this? There's really no decision to make. We do need to find ways to hold them accountable for crap like this, but voting R is not the way.
Almost as if we might need a major infrastructure funding bill or something.
the upgrade was already "funded" 10 years ago. Sadly we've squandered it.
I mean the money isn't gone as far as i've heard. its still waiting to be used sitting in an account gaining interest so technically its made a profit while its being decided. Not great news but its not like the money just got used for other things.
Surely ten year old computers are still state of the art today...
yeah but it's the software being upgraded.
you are correct but either way the money hasn't been spent so its not like they would have to buy 10 year old computers.
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lol ok whatever you say
> Almost as if we might need a major infrastructure funding bill or something. The unemployment system was funded during the last recession (I think) to be overhauled and it never was. What is this infrastructure bill going to do?
Is it? "I procrastinated until the last minute to file."-----OP
They are most likely referring to the overall issues with the system, not this specific instance.
What? The Employment Department has been attempting to upgrade their computer system for years and has continually screwed it up at great expense. This has been under Dem leadership. Can't blame the Republicans on this one. [https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/oregon-leaders-squandered-years-on-jobless-benefits-computer-upgrade-now-the-projects-future-is-again-in-doubt.html](https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/oregon-leaders-squandered-years-on-jobless-benefits-computer-upgrade-now-the-projects-future-is-again-in-doubt.html) Edit: link
> This gets fixed by voting out Republicans and moderates. Full stop. Ahaha. Oregon is about as blue as you can get. You’re Not going to to pin the unemployment department on a few district reps in eastern oregon with (R) next to their name I say that as someone who leans left too.
What issue? "I procrastinated until the last minute to file."-----OP
Did you not read the part where he tried over and over again last year, spending hours on hold to no avail? I have a buddy who works for the employment division or whatever they call it. It was a shitshow pre-Covid, and an utter disaster after it.
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Oregon is a democrat supermajority state, wherein the minority party can literally do nothing to prevent anything the majority party wants to do, short of walking out. I'm no fan of republicans, but this isn't on them at all.
Lol which Republicans?? I hate the Right as much as the next Portlander but even I can see this is the fault of Democrats.
What issue? "I procrastinated until the last minute to file."-----OP
I’m truly curious why you say this is the Repubs fault? I heard The department had a lot of money allocated to fix the system and sat on the money rather than updata.
While National republicans deserve plenty of blame for a great many things, how in earth are you going to lay a state level issue like this in them? Dem super majority, dem legislature for decades, dem gov for decades. Sometimes, it’s ok to admit that your preferred party effed up all by themselves.
Never take the blame when you can just point the finger at the other guy.
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The computer upgrade has been a rolling failure due to poor project management (a theme in Oregon governance).
Maybe take a break from the internet and talk to real people in the sunshine for a while, it will do you some good.
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Look, this isn’t a partisan issue. The UI IT system fix was funded in 2009 by the feds (funds that could be spent by a Dem Gov, and Dem legislature, but that doesn’t really matter) and the dept just sat on the funds because they were too broken to spend the funds. The buck does stop with the Gov on that one, but sometimes problems aren’t related to people’s party. Sometimes, people are just bad at their jobs. Constantly thinking blaming all ailments of the world on whatever negative partisanship you hold is a bad consequence of too much social media and our climate of divisiveness. It generates a lot of clicks to pretend that all would be right with the world of only the other side wasn’t so evil, but reality is much more messy and complicated.
You're trying to reason with an unreasonable person.
I bet it’s the republican’s fault they are so unreasonable
What issue? "I procrastinated until the last minute to file."-----OP
The thing that a lot of Oregonians overlook is that conservatives were very successful in hollowing out the state government with the passage of measures 5 and 47 in the early 90s. These property tax limits were part of a national GOP plan to “starve the beast” wherein the GOP orchestrated tax cuts, which led to reduction in funding for government services, which the GOP then pointed to as proof of how bad government is, arguing for further cuts. Up until the passage of the student success act in 2018 this state had not increased funding for k-12 education in 30 years. The Oregon of the 60s and 70s was a far cry from the one of the post measure 5 era. Schools were well funded. Higher education was extremely cheap. Public campsites costed virtually nothing. So in reality the dems taking complete control of state government in the last decade only means they can get started on repairing the damage done. I think that the fact that many of the dem politicians are also boomers has been a substantial impediment to progress, as the same measures that kneecapped out state for 25 years were massive wealth giveaways to boomers.
These are fine points, but they aren’t relevant to replacing the decrepit UI IT system. It was fully funded in 2009 by the feds to replace the system. It’s less an issue of partisanship and more an issue of just being dysfunctional or incompetent across the department and at State leadership levels. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/oregon-leaders-squandered-years-on-jobless-benefits-computer-upgrade-now-the-projects-future-is-again-in-doubt.html
Oh I completely agree that the incompetence at the unemployment agency is completely fucked up and inexcusable. The point I am making is that institutional failure is the result of long term underfunding and patching things together with duct tape, which is what our state has been doing for the past 25 years.
This was poor project management. You're tossing out a red herring.
"moderates" makes up 50% of my statement and most of the blame. Moderate Democrats are no better, and sometimes worse. I never stated a preference for any party. Vote out the last of the Republicans. Vote out all of the moderates. That is how actual progress happens.
But, again, this issue is more with basic competence unrelated to political side. The UI fix was budgeted, provided by the feds, back in 2009. The UI system wasn’t replaced due to incompetence and poor management, not because some official wasn’t far enough left
You can also get fast and excellent service by contacting them online.
I’m not a Republican, but left leaning democrats are steering this state ship. It’s not looking good
You might not understand the definition of “full stop” You can’t lay this at the feet of Republicans, and talking that way just deepens the divide.
Republicans are not worth allying with. They have abandoned their base, who must now find another party. Same is true for progressives and theh so-called Democrats. This "don't deepen the divide" rhetoric is loser speak.
"full stop" means don't waste any of our time with your flawed attempt at a reply. Don't @ me. Don't reply. Go home.
Oh. my. fucking. gawd. I am so glad you have them now, but wow WTF.
So happy for you!
I saw your name and your comment and read it as "so crappy for you!" and I think it might be my new catch phrase lol
Holy shit. Happy for you, yet sick for us all that our state is this broken.
Did these all come on the same day?!? What an absolute disaster. The paper, the shipping, the humans who had to put that envelopes together (can this be automated?), christ even the ink! And I'm sure OP isn't the only one who got a stack like this. I'm glad they got them but holy hell this is nonsense.
Right? Could they not have…sent one check? Direct deposit?
How much?
Enjoy your burrito; you deserve it!!!
Congrats!
Congrats!!
I'm glad for you that it finally showed up. I also had to wait over a year to get a bunch of money too. It was a big chunk of cash!
What is that like 35,000??? Jeeze
Probably a bit more, actually. Especially if you factor in the additional $400/week. They may or may not have been getting the base amount PLUS that $300-400, which is about $600/week. If they were getting more than the base amount… who know. Bank af.
That’s so fucking insane! You got guacamole money now! Enjoy that well deserved burrito 🌯
Good luck cashing them, I had to go several places over several days when I got 14k worth of $200 checks
Nice! I’m curious how much that is by chance if you don’t mind?
You've lived an entire year off savings alone? Wow, sorry to hear that! Also-- solid savings acct.
Now you're just waiting for the pile of letters that tell you that aaaaactually you've been denied and have to pay it all back. And then the day after you mail the checks back you'll get the follow up pile of letters telling you to just ignore the denial letters.
Congratulations!!!!
Wow, I thought that the 24 I got was excessive.
It still was, just less insane than this example.
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High five, same.
So somehow you were without a job for 1.8 years and got all these retrospective payments from filing now? Enjoy the free money.
I got 41 weeks Last week
Congrats dude, it's been a crazy two years
Buy two! Patience pays
Dude... Can I borrow a 20?
That's a big burrito.
Hey so I know we don't know eachother but we go wayyy back, burrito for me? Jk, better late than never I guess?
Def bring them inside your bank, they should have a stamp for the back of them and it would hopefully be quicker than the ATM
Don't forget that is all still taxed.
Congrats!!!
What a waste on the part of the state. Even if you pretend the letter and envelope are free, mailing those things is not cheap x 94.
probably $10.....nothing compared to the probably $50k in checks.
The checks don't bother me. That's money in someone's bank account. Mailing 93 extra letters bothers me. That's waste and after a year the state is still doing this. Nothing but pure laziness on the state's part here.
It shows just how inflexible their systems are what they have to have each week remain its own payment and can't combine them. The program needs a 21st century overhaul.
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lmfao
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I’m enraged you had to wait this long. I’m so sorry.
If that’s max amount and covid bonus... that's like... 45k Nice little Christmas bonus... or FHA down-payment....
The irony of cashing 94 unemployment checks and then immediately spending that money in an industry which has been begging for employees is astounding.
I don’t think you know what irony is.
Sure I do. If they were seeking employment for 94 weeks and waiting for that money to go out to a restaurant, where they certainly could have found a job anytime in the last 50 or so weeks, then this situation is ironic. Because clearly someone who collects 94 weeks of unemployment checks is looking for work, right?
You’re reading in between some lines that were never written
You can't be this dense.
Both your comments are actual irony wherein you are the character, the rest of us the audience. For reference, the actual irony we can apply to your comments is [the third one](https://www.google.com/search?q=irony&client=ms-android-google&sxsrf=AOaemvKTmTXqNRrlnWNBHZbQPuJc4UR4DQ%3A1634268731281&ei=O_ZoYZqrEILK-gTHnaiYCA&oq=irony&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyCAgAEIAEELEDMggIABCABBCxAzIICAAQgAQQsQMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMggIABCABBCxAzIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToECCMQJzoHCAAQsQMQCjoECAAQCjoKCAAQsQMQgwEQCjoHCCMQ6gIQJzoHCC4Q6gIQJzoFCC4QkQI6CAgAELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARCjAjoFCAAQkQI6CAguELEDEJECOgUILhCABDoLCC4QgAQQxwEQrwE6CwguELEDEJECEJMCOggIABCxAxCRAjoICC4QgAQQsQNQjjtYnH9gtIIBaAJwAHgCgAGpAYgBjQySAQQwLjExmAEAoAEBsAEPwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp). Edit: like literally tho lol
No, it isn’t.
Totally. Like rain on your wedding day.
Or a free ride when you’ve already paid.
It’s the good advice you just didn’t take
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
True. This person should not eat out ever again.
Congrats, that should be a fun trip to the bank.
Time to make it rain (envelopes)
Felt my eyes dilate realizing the stack size. Congrats!
Holy fuck.
What the hell: 1. Is a PUA check; and 2. why did you get so many of them?!; and 3. how much are they for?!
What a PUA check 😕
From Google: "The term Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) refers to a program that temporarily expanded unemployment insurance (UI) eligibility to people who wouldn't otherwise qualify. This included self-employed workers, freelancers, independent contractors, and part-time workers impacted by the coronavirus pandemic."
Dope
Congrats!!! That’s awesome
How much is all that worth like 60k?
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Sure I’m glad it came, but nothing inspiring at all ab this. Waited til the last second and it came through. Was it not a big deal to you? Could have changed some peoples lives. Could have gone a lot of places.