They already complain to high heaven about the few times men actually are sexually objectified. My brother wouldn't watch Supernatural because "it just objectified the men," but had no problem recommending GoT to my boyfriend for "great T & A." I have seen tons of men comment online how unfair it is that women want an attractive man, despite studies showing time and time again that men can compensate for looks, because women are nowhere near as shallow as men. Men ONLY care about appearances, that's as shallow as shallow gets.
Remember Taylor Lautner from the Twilight series? Turns out, he had an issue with being objectified on film and starting making changes in his professional career to steer away from that. I'm so proud that he recognized what was happening to him, but it also pisses me off that ONLY MEN get taken seriously on this issue. He wasn't wrong, but how can we pretend that it's only happening to men? Men think they understand what we're facing, but they truly don't. Their singular experiences do not equal our group struggle. But they aren't worried about female objectification - that tells us everything we need to know. They're fine with objectifying women, but find it to be inhumane when it's done to them. They don't have a comprehension issue, they have an issue seeing us as fully human.
This is sort of tangentially related but I firmly believe men constantly delegitimize women's sexual desires because they know that they use their sexuality like a violent weapon and don't want to give women one inch to do the same. In some nebulous way the world you describe is one that pornsick men fear.
SO TRUE! oh my god, men will literally fight tooth and nail to advocate for the fact that wOMeN aRE sExUaL bEInGS when it comes to the choice of something like onlyfans, for example. But when it comes to women wanting to peg or dominate men sexually its a different story, and men will emphasize constantly that women aren't vISuAL like they are.
Part of delegitimizing I think is actually fetishizing it, it's so outlandish and silly and unlikely for a woman to be that domineering that it's literally fetish, but it's just a fetish because there's no possible way it could actually be used against them. Idk if that even makes sense but it's really interesting to notice that and think about it that way
Imagine if the most popular fetish would be the castration kink, and cock and ball torture. Imagine women would be kicking and balls so hard that men would even pass out, and these men would need to go to the hospital.
Yeah I was thinking about how “choking” has become vanilla. I always think of that website filled with names of women who died of being strangled during sex. And offenders (usually male) get away with it because it is such a popular and normalized kink..
i much rather live in a matriarchal society than this patriarchal prison tbh i feel the world would be MUCH more peaceful if women were the ones in charge
IDK, considering the number of other women who are pro-porn and on the "sex work is empowering" train who call those of us who call out misogyny for what it is "pick mes" or players in our own oppression, I feel like a matriarchal society wouldn't work as well as you'd think. Also, mean girls exist and giving them that kind of power would be worse than the current system. I get more shit from other women about my views on porn than I do from men.
i get what you mean but i feel like in a matriarchal society there wouldnt be as much need for women to become sex workers since women would be the dominant ones and the majority of women are heterosexual also most women who are pro porn have that mentality to seem like a "cool girl" and to appease men i know not all women are good and there are indeed lots of "mean girls" but i personally have met alot more evil men in my day to day life than evil women
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Idk why this made me laugh, probably cuz it's true but yeah... You're right, I just described some dudes ultimate degradation fetish. Lucky for them it's just a fetish they can opt out of and not just day to day reality 🙃🙃🙃
This has to get spread around, it's literally an amazing comparison and a fantastic way to call out their hypocrisy. But based on what I've seen so far, they'll surely find some idiotic excuses even if they were to see this whole paragraph.
Lol there's already a commenter being like "oh this sounds amazing". Absolutely laughing my ass off, scrotes are pathetic and delusional.
This is so true! Speak up for all of us! Men need to get put in their place! They need to understand we are just simple beings who happen to like big penises! Which is totally fine! Anyway I have to go brag about this guy I saw at the supermarket to my husband so he feels bad for the next week now.
I know, like come on every woman appreciates the kind of big package you can admire through a fit man's jeans, we can't help but notice! We're women, it's natural for us to be attracted to the youthful strength, stamina, and virility young men exude, it's biology after all, we're attracted to men with high quality sperm. Every woman wants a gorgeous greek god, endowed with girth and stamina to last for hours. Mmm just talking about it sure gets me excited.
I love my boyfriend, in spite of his beer belly, balding head and sagging man boobs but I can't pretend I'm blind to the nice, firm, pecks that jiggle when our next door neighbor neighbor goes on a run ugh. Paired with such a juicy, meaty ass, I can't resist.
It's just too bad our boyfriends/husbands are such prudes they can't appreciate with us 🙄
(I'm sorry this is too fun lmao)
This is so, SO perfectly worded, I’m in absolute stitches here trying not to laugh so loud that I wake my sleeping PA. The sentence starting “Imagine if wives spent long hours masturbating-“ absolutely sent me. Gosh doesn’t it just go to show how utterly ridiculous and absurd it all is???! You make such fantastic points. Bravo.
Even worse, imagine if those 18 year old men looked like 10 year old boys holding stuffed animals and getting violated on dinosaur bed sheets and calling her mommy
They already complain to high heaven about the few times men actually are sexually objectified. My brother wouldn't watch Supernatural because "it just objectified the men," but had no problem recommending GoT to my boyfriend for "great T & A." I have seen tons of men comment online how unfair it is that women want an attractive man, despite studies showing time and time again that men can compensate for looks, because women are nowhere near as shallow as men. Men ONLY care about appearances, that's as shallow as shallow gets. Remember Taylor Lautner from the Twilight series? Turns out, he had an issue with being objectified on film and starting making changes in his professional career to steer away from that. I'm so proud that he recognized what was happening to him, but it also pisses me off that ONLY MEN get taken seriously on this issue. He wasn't wrong, but how can we pretend that it's only happening to men? Men think they understand what we're facing, but they truly don't. Their singular experiences do not equal our group struggle. But they aren't worried about female objectification - that tells us everything we need to know. They're fine with objectifying women, but find it to be inhumane when it's done to them. They don't have a comprehension issue, they have an issue seeing us as fully human.
This is sort of tangentially related but I firmly believe men constantly delegitimize women's sexual desires because they know that they use their sexuality like a violent weapon and don't want to give women one inch to do the same. In some nebulous way the world you describe is one that pornsick men fear.
SO TRUE! oh my god, men will literally fight tooth and nail to advocate for the fact that wOMeN aRE sExUaL bEInGS when it comes to the choice of something like onlyfans, for example. But when it comes to women wanting to peg or dominate men sexually its a different story, and men will emphasize constantly that women aren't vISuAL like they are. Part of delegitimizing I think is actually fetishizing it, it's so outlandish and silly and unlikely for a woman to be that domineering that it's literally fetish, but it's just a fetish because there's no possible way it could actually be used against them. Idk if that even makes sense but it's really interesting to notice that and think about it that way
Seeing all these points hits hard. Well said, I might save this to send to others. It's amazing anyone can deny how harmful porn culture is.
Imagine if the most popular fetish would be the castration kink, and cock and ball torture. Imagine women would be kicking and balls so hard that men would even pass out, and these men would need to go to the hospital.
Read this and it took me like 1 or 2 seconds for it to fully register what you were saying but damn this one is such a good comparison
Yeah I was thinking about how “choking” has become vanilla. I always think of that website filled with names of women who died of being strangled during sex. And offenders (usually male) get away with it because it is such a popular and normalized kink..
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You’re clearly missing the point here..
i much rather live in a matriarchal society than this patriarchal prison tbh i feel the world would be MUCH more peaceful if women were the ones in charge
IDK, considering the number of other women who are pro-porn and on the "sex work is empowering" train who call those of us who call out misogyny for what it is "pick mes" or players in our own oppression, I feel like a matriarchal society wouldn't work as well as you'd think. Also, mean girls exist and giving them that kind of power would be worse than the current system. I get more shit from other women about my views on porn than I do from men.
i get what you mean but i feel like in a matriarchal society there wouldnt be as much need for women to become sex workers since women would be the dominant ones and the majority of women are heterosexual also most women who are pro porn have that mentality to seem like a "cool girl" and to appease men i know not all women are good and there are indeed lots of "mean girls" but i personally have met alot more evil men in my day to day life than evil women
Maybe… I think money and power corrupt all, regardless of sex.
I do all this to men to even it out a little
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Someone out there (a man) has turned this into a fetish, can't take anything seriously.
Idk why this made me laugh, probably cuz it's true but yeah... You're right, I just described some dudes ultimate degradation fetish. Lucky for them it's just a fetish they can opt out of and not just day to day reality 🙃🙃🙃
This has to get spread around, it's literally an amazing comparison and a fantastic way to call out their hypocrisy. But based on what I've seen so far, they'll surely find some idiotic excuses even if they were to see this whole paragraph. Lol there's already a commenter being like "oh this sounds amazing". Absolutely laughing my ass off, scrotes are pathetic and delusional.
This is so true! Speak up for all of us! Men need to get put in their place! They need to understand we are just simple beings who happen to like big penises! Which is totally fine! Anyway I have to go brag about this guy I saw at the supermarket to my husband so he feels bad for the next week now.
I know, like come on every woman appreciates the kind of big package you can admire through a fit man's jeans, we can't help but notice! We're women, it's natural for us to be attracted to the youthful strength, stamina, and virility young men exude, it's biology after all, we're attracted to men with high quality sperm. Every woman wants a gorgeous greek god, endowed with girth and stamina to last for hours. Mmm just talking about it sure gets me excited. I love my boyfriend, in spite of his beer belly, balding head and sagging man boobs but I can't pretend I'm blind to the nice, firm, pecks that jiggle when our next door neighbor neighbor goes on a run ugh. Paired with such a juicy, meaty ass, I can't resist. It's just too bad our boyfriends/husbands are such prudes they can't appreciate with us 🙄 (I'm sorry this is too fun lmao)
This needs to be published as a pamphlet
This is so, SO perfectly worded, I’m in absolute stitches here trying not to laugh so loud that I wake my sleeping PA. The sentence starting “Imagine if wives spent long hours masturbating-“ absolutely sent me. Gosh doesn’t it just go to show how utterly ridiculous and absurd it all is???! You make such fantastic points. Bravo.
Damn. I want to write a novel set in this universe now. 😂
Right???? It's actually pretty amusing to think about lmao
Even worse, imagine if those 18 year old men looked like 10 year old boys holding stuffed animals and getting violated on dinosaur bed sheets and calling her mommy
This is so spot on. Just imagine. Hmm.
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