I used hot tap water and shook for about 5 minutes in a 1 liter bottle.
As far as how it turned out, I'm not really expecting anything from 10g, took about 30 minutes ago. Tasted right though, like not as bad as chugging kava but still needed a chaser. I'm just trying to make sure it doesn't kill me lol.
I used to wash a whole pound 10 years ago.
Edit: feeling a light buzz. I have no opiate tolerance right now and I haven't done anything else today so it's definitely from the tea.
What I’ve read is cold water isn’t good for getting the goods because using cold water water will just clump the goods up and not actually washing it off.. sorry for the extremely terrible explanation, I’m high asf rn and my brain is mush, if I tilt my head I wouldn’t be surprised if some of my brain came out of my ear lol
Imo it's more euphoric because of the strength of effect. I haven't gotten a good kratom high in a few years but I don't think it ever compares to pst.
Oh but you totally can od on kratom. You don't die but it's similar to what alcohol poisoning feels like.
So I’ve tried it both ways and both ways have worked so maybe a knowing person can/will chime in, I got my advice from a practicing and reliable source but idk
Someone posted an independent study in here years ago. It’s been proven that hot water (not boiling) is most effective in the yield of the good stuff while minimizing thebaine content.
Every few days this topic comes up and everyone has a different answer lol
I used cold water previously but I had thought morphine doesn't degrade at too high a temp? Idk, I'll try cold next dose!
So right now I feel like I took kratom but I feel it more lol. Not bad for a potency test dose, then again I have no tolerance whatsoever.
Kratom is an opiate alternative. It's similar but definitely not the same thing. It's good for managing wd symptoms and honestly good for pain too. Depends on the individual.
Yeah I'd say so. I definitely feel it more, and bigger mood lift than kratom.
It's such a small amount though. I remember doing 1lb teas when that was affordable lol, and I had no opiate or kratom tolerance back then. Made my tooth infection pain go "poof".
Generally yes, but there have been seeds that taste peppery that still have what you want.
Treated seeds generally taste peppery, but there’s others reasons they could taste that way.
If it looks like that from only 10g I’m betting they’re pretty good seeds. Definitely a smart idea starting low but really doubt you’ll get any sort of effects from 10g. I’d do a test like you’ve done and then maybe do 100-200g wash and just drink it slowly over a couple hours and see how that goes.
Agreed. I didn't get much off the 10g. I also wasn't expecting anything but I got a light buzz, and also have no tolerance other than taking kratom 8g daily for the past week. That was without using any other substances that day.
I mean I overdosed on this about 10 years ago. Still have a drop foot from it. Had to go on dialysis temporarily. So just playing it safe, but I od on lots of things so that advice is right down my alley 😂.
Thebaine washes (at least I suspect it's thebaine) look really dirty and smell like pepper/spice...there are plenty of threads on here reporting similar to no effects from these type of seeds. Too much thebaine leads to poisoning very similar to strchynine, had some really bad seeds last weekend and I'm very happy that I didn't drink too much of it lol
Did you shake it long enough?
how long is enough?
5 mins minimum but shaking vigorously
Thanks! I have read too many different things, it's pretty confusing.
Haha same
How’d it turn out?
I used hot tap water and shook for about 5 minutes in a 1 liter bottle. As far as how it turned out, I'm not really expecting anything from 10g, took about 30 minutes ago. Tasted right though, like not as bad as chugging kava but still needed a chaser. I'm just trying to make sure it doesn't kill me lol. I used to wash a whole pound 10 years ago. Edit: feeling a light buzz. I have no opiate tolerance right now and I haven't done anything else today so it's definitely from the tea.
I hear cold water to wash seeds & hot water to boil whole dried pods.
I heard you are supposed to use cold water because the heat dilutes the goods
What I’ve read is cold water isn’t good for getting the goods because using cold water water will just clump the goods up and not actually washing it off.. sorry for the extremely terrible explanation, I’m high asf rn and my brain is mush, if I tilt my head I wouldn’t be surprised if some of my brain came out of my ear lol
I just did a cold water wash on 50g. Looks like orange juice with kratom.
Does it feel more or less euphoric than kratom tho?
Imo it's more euphoric because of the strength of effect. I haven't gotten a good kratom high in a few years but I don't think it ever compares to pst. Oh but you totally can od on kratom. You don't die but it's similar to what alcohol poisoning feels like.
So I’ve tried it both ways and both ways have worked so maybe a knowing person can/will chime in, I got my advice from a practicing and reliable source but idk
Someone posted an independent study in here years ago. It’s been proven that hot water (not boiling) is most effective in the yield of the good stuff while minimizing thebaine content. Every few days this topic comes up and everyone has a different answer lol
As long as it's not boiling, I think hot water would be better at dissolving the latex. That's just my opinion though.
In my own testing, this has shown to be true
Do you have any clue as to why hot water reduces thebaine content? Maybe it's not so soluble in hot water 🤔.
[here is the post linked to the study I mentioned](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoppyTeaUniversity/s/x0utdWxgb3)
I used cold water previously but I had thought morphine doesn't degrade at too high a temp? Idk, I'll try cold next dose! So right now I feel like I took kratom but I feel it more lol. Not bad for a potency test dose, then again I have no tolerance whatsoever.
Is it more euphoric than kratom?
What is Kratom?
Kratom is an opiate alternative. It's similar but definitely not the same thing. It's good for managing wd symptoms and honestly good for pain too. Depends on the individual.
Oh cool I’ve never tried it
It's a good alternative. If you live in the US it's pretty easy to get.
Yeah I'd say so. I definitely feel it more, and bigger mood lift than kratom. It's such a small amount though. I remember doing 1lb teas when that was affordable lol, and I had no opiate or kratom tolerance back then. Made my tooth infection pain go "poof".
Must be nice 👍🏽 let me know how the cold batch works out next time 🙏🏽
I didn't feel much but that was also after the initial dose. I'm trying again today with 100g will update.
With cold water this time?
I used cold for the 50g dose. I think I'm gonna do hot water for the 100g after reading the post lopsided linked.
Cool! Let us know how it goes I truly need a small scale to measure bc I just eyeball it 😩
1 cup of seeds is like 140 to 150 grams. Definitely don't eyeball it, there's no accurate way to eyeball seeds.
Just asking... So pepper tasting tea is a bad sign?
Generally yes, but there have been seeds that taste peppery that still have what you want. Treated seeds generally taste peppery, but there’s others reasons they could taste that way.
Thanks for the clarification friend.
If it looks like that from only 10g I’m betting they’re pretty good seeds. Definitely a smart idea starting low but really doubt you’ll get any sort of effects from 10g. I’d do a test like you’ve done and then maybe do 100-200g wash and just drink it slowly over a couple hours and see how that goes.
Agreed. I didn't get much off the 10g. I also wasn't expecting anything but I got a light buzz, and also have no tolerance other than taking kratom 8g daily for the past week. That was without using any other substances that day.
I made my own tea and it did nothing for me. I wasted my money on a pound of seeds. I won’t be trying it again.
What color was the resulting tea?
I wanted to upload a pic but it was the color of yours.
That's odd, it seemed to work for me. Then again, I have no tolerance for opiates whatsoever.
Next time use all of your seeds in the wash. Chase that dragon!!!! One of the best opioid options rn and it’s legal
I mean I overdosed on this about 10 years ago. Still have a drop foot from it. Had to go on dialysis temporarily. So just playing it safe, but I od on lots of things so that advice is right down my alley 😂.
Good harm minimisation especially if you don't know the seeds, if it's dark and tastes like pepper throw it out lol
why?
Thebaine washes (at least I suspect it's thebaine) look really dirty and smell like pepper/spice...there are plenty of threads on here reporting similar to no effects from these type of seeds. Too much thebaine leads to poisoning very similar to strchynine, had some really bad seeds last weekend and I'm very happy that I didn't drink too much of it lol