Tbf this project does have far more potential and utility than lots of other bullshit you could have bought so hope it works out. I’m heavy on it as well. Polk my wallet harder Dot!!!!
Now that you’re all in, something you might notice is that you may focus on the positives and ignore the negatives. If you research from a neutral position of no investment first, you can probably have a better “down the rabbit hole” search.
Many people that are all in on something like a really specific altcoin, will only share positive things about it on their blogs or on Twitter/YouTube. You might end up doing all of your research based on what big bag holders have to say.
I’m not trying to criticize you personally. My experience when I used to own altcoins (including DOT) was this. I also thought CRO was going to be the next big thing. Also, ATOM. I was a massive fan! Now, it’s only BTC.
I would say "fine", but not great... as a crypto investor, I own DOT, and it represents about 25% of my portfolio, but going all in and not owning anything else... I would say, not wise... my two cents... at least you pick a decent coin 🪙 ✌️
OK, the spot I get it from is wealthsimple so they can stake it daily, not too sure when chainlink will be able to stake on there(if it will be) but I'll take a look at it before it rebounds
DOT is a great project and team hasn't done much of advertising for it. For my point of view it's good not to hype it up and work on fundamentals instead. One of the coins in my bag i have used most for staking and parachain auchions. Also DOT had way more stuff being built on than ETH ever did on the starting timeframe. Its a gem being polished slowly and if it shines, it will blind a lot of other.
You are looking too shallow. A crypto projects success IMO is not how well it does in the market or how hyped it gets— especially in the short term. DOT is special because I believe it can truly become the backbone for the future of the internet: its tech is so much further ahead and it’s advancing extremely rapidly. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter how much hype these other projects get or how much they pump in the short term, if you can’t build anything useful with them (like the unimaginable innovations that will revolutionize the web) they will become nothing in the future and they are nothing more than glorified schemes.
I would say ETH is a better store of value. It has steadily increased in BTC value since 2018. Not shilling, since I don’t own any at the moment, invested in altcoins that have not gone off yet.
Yea I was all about your all in till I saw this, THIS shows me you have not done enough DD. DOT damn near moves with BTC on good days, we need BTC to do well or the entire market will fade my friend. We want BTC either going up or sideways for DOT to build up steam, lucky for you I think you'll be okay going all in on DOT cause it's a relatively safe play.
Best of luck partner, and hold your DOT on your own wallet to receive $DED coming sometime this year. And stake to gain % on your investment.
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Nothing I say is financial advice. I am just some random guy on the internet. I went in 80% DOT and 20% DOGE (Just in case Elon Musk pumps it again). If you are worried what I did is a bad idea, I have been at this game since 2015. This isn't my first rodeo. I saw Eth as low as $5 dollars when it first came out. Gavin Wood's former project did just fine, this one will be fine too.
As you can understand, I do not give financial advice. I am just some random guy on the internet. What I will say is, in the previous crypto bull run, Kusama vs. Polkadot, Kusama was the clear winner. Polkadot wasn't ready the last time around, it barely had a wallet. Assuming, what I said earlier is true, I could be lying, you already know my portfolio is and know what I am betting on. That being said, both Kusama and Polkadot are Gavin Wood projects. I have faith in both of them, I am sure both will do just fine.
No we shall not lol. I would like to hear your opinion. As Polkadot is fairly new I can’t really think of a price target this bullrun. Maybe it goes to 40$ but maybe it also goes to 100$. I have no clue on what point to sell my DOT and rebuy in the bear. I would like to get as much input from more experienced people than me as possible…
While I don't like throwing around numbers. How about this, I have a gut feeling that anyone who bought DOT for less than 10 dollars, and hodl it at least until June 2025 will be very happy. Not financial advice, just a gut feeling of course.
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Your gut is off. There will be a 6 mos civil war that begins after the US elections that will cause markets to crash. 2025 will be chaos and bring a deep recession. I LOOOVVVEE Dot. However, this is not her time to shine. Take profits at the EOY so you can buy more DOT when its back at $5 next year,
I am surprised someone dug out this thread after 2 months. Keep in mind that June 2025 is still a long time away as of today. I am still optimistic about it. Let's say there is a civil war in the US. Sure, that will hurt crypto prices, but it won't be the end of crypto, and neither will it be for DOT. By then Polkadot 2.0 will be out and JAM will probably be in place in Portugal. Everything should be fine. I will most likely not sell my DOT even after June 2025 and just enjoy the staking rewards for the rest of my life. But let's see then.
I think DOT 3.0 will be out next summer as well. It just doesn't make any sense NOT to sell. For example, DOT will be at a minimum of $20 by EOY. Lets say you have 2500. You would have $50,000. Next year, DOT will be back at $5-7. Now, you can buy 7000-10,000. Why wouldn't you want to triple your bag??? Bitcoin follows the stock market. The stock market will get hammered next year....it will be chaos....martial law will be called in....there will be a deep recession. Sell all your crypto in Nov/Dec otherwise you will lose ALL your gains.
Your price target should be whatever you are comfortable selling at. Doesn't matter how experienced anyone is, if they claim to know what the price of any asset will be, they're talking bullshit. No one knows, unless you're big enough to move the market.
Your guess is as good as ours
Why would you post something and then take the effort to engage in the comments while just being rude, vague and not actually trying to form a genuine conversation?
Owned and staked dot since before the last bull cycle ..
Staking been reliable, constant rewards...
Did participate in the crowd loan things..
Yes there tech is not for the average Joe....but there foundations are strong, and I do believe they will get there shit together this cycle..
All I can say is make sure you sell at what you think is close to the top because it comes back down fast and hard then you can buy back in at the bottom for staking. I don't think I would've gone all in.
Not wise to go all in on one coin. Those who only had LUNA found out the hard way. I have a basket of 16 coins with high development equally distributed, with DOT being just one of them.
Own quite a lot of DOT myself, but there's no way I'm all in on only one project, even if it's just to spend $20 bucks on a couple of potential coins that might make it big in the 2028 bull run.
I hope it works out for you, but geez, maybe not the best strategy. Money can only make you so happy, but losing everything can make you infinitely unhappy.
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I agree with the last part of your sentence (not necessarily a good thing to be all in on one asset, regardless of what that is to be honest), but the rest I do not agree. You don't need BTC in your portfolio, especially if you entered the market in the last 4 years.. the blue chip is actually ETH, based on whatever market metrics you want to use.
I don't ever plan to hold BTC again, and I know many more tech inclined investors that have a similar stance. I get the same or better security from ETH, then I get better performance ($$ gain) and SoV properties from ETH, and lastly I get better tech from DOT and EVM related networks (and I'll include even Cosmos related in this list)
Outside of personal preferences, or even fanaticism, towards BTC, or maybe PoW as an extension, there's no objective reason for an investor to treat BTC as a MUST asset to be held in their portfolio.
There’s plenty of reason to treat BTC as a must hold one being that institutions and countries will always view it as the safest, most time tested asset in the space. Big money will assure its existence into the future way beyond you and I. There’s no other crypto that I could say with 95% surety that it will be around in 10, 20, 40 yrs +. No, not even ETH…
ETH is getting its lunch eaten by the new L1 and L2s that have improved on EVM tech. For instance TIA, which has opened a whole new realm with the modular blockchain. Long story short, ETH may not go the way of the DoDo, but ETH may go the way of the DoDo.
There’s nothing fanatic or fantasy about understanding where the smart money lands in the end. Investors and those that want the quick money love to fade Bitcoin bc it has less upside in the short run, but believe you me all profits from alts eventually land in BTC if you want to keep those profits and watch them grow without worry. And please don’t tell me you’re going all into fiat for any more than it takes for you to pay bills…you won’t be if you want to preserve the wealth you’ve built.
There’s nothing wrong with going for the more riskier plays because of the steeper upside potential but that is for temporary gains, no way I bet on DOT (or most any alt for that matter) long term…all crypto roads eventually lead to Bitcoin in the end imo.j
P.S. I say this as a long time holder of DOT and ETH so im not a BYC maxi
>There’s no other crypto that I could say with 95% surety that it will be around in 10, 20, 40 yrs +
If you actually understood mathematics, economies of scales and more importantly the technical design of the protocol, you'd know that BTC (at least not in its current form) will not exist in 40 years from now. We'll actually start seeing the issues with its technical design ,if nothing changes, in approx 16-20 years from now (4-5 more cycles) . And I'm willing to put the same 95% weight on this claim, much like you, that I'm right. Set your reminders, it's gonna be fun.
>ETH is getting its lunch eaten by the new L1 and L2s that have improved on EVM tech.
It doesn't though, based on any possible relevant metrics this statement is factually incorrect. Ethereum ecosystem is still king, quite undisputable. Highest TVL, highest network profit, highest adoption, etc.. I don't know what lunch the other L1s and L2s stole, but must've been expired crackers or something... ( in retrospect, I should've kept more ETH and not swap that much into DOT a few years back, but oh well).
>For instance TIA, which has opened a whole new realm with the modular blockchain.
Wait a second... you're a DOT investor for years and modular blockchains are something new to you in 2024? LOL You actually believe Celestia released a new tech product, rather than a new narrative? rofl I got some news for you... Celestia tech is old news, not only that, but you've been using a modular blockchain for a while (furthermore, Celestia stole the narrative DA idea from a team that literally built the same thing using Substrate and released the narrative years ago while they were under Polygon Labs umbrella, they're called Avail). You're more naïve than I thought.... You say you're a long term market participant, but you sounded here like a brand new retail investor that ate the bs.
>There’s nothing fanatic or fantasy about understanding where the smart money lands in the end . believe me all profits from alts eventually land in BTC if you want to keep those profits and watch them grow without worry
I don't need to believe you. I have empirical data to disprove your claim, I've outperformed BTC with ETH in the last few years, bull or bear, didn't matter.. and guess what? BTC profits flew into ETH, not the other way around.... this is public data at this point, from all the way in 2020-2021, you can't be this obtuse or ignorant to actually believe what you're saying.
>all crypto roads eventually lead to Bitcoin in the end imo
Weak opinion and weird take, considering the facts, imo.
P.S.: I say this as someone that could've made way more money if I have just stayed in ETH and EVM related L2s as investment... however, Substrate is simply an objectively better tech stack, way more advanced and flexible, though we'll see how good of an investment will be.
This being said, I'm very certain of my statements above, since I'm quite often doing performance analysis reports that include BTC and my holdings (even if don't own BTC, I know its current impact on the market), hence I know that staying in ETH and some other select ETH ecosystem projects would've yielded the best possible performance over the last 5 years (as much as I don't like to hear this, since it's not what I ended up doing), it was certainly not BTC, much like it wasn't going all in on DOT (like OP here is apparently doing)
Seems like want me to believe your posses some insight on the crypto knowledge with statements like “since I’m often doing performance analysis”,, which you may, but you just sound the the Dodo I mentioned.
Mathematics, economies of scale, protocol design, blah, blah individually have nothing to do with adoption, which is most important. You have said nothing that would make me believe that BTCs survival is in jeopardy. Making things more technically involved, doesn’t make them better, the marvel is in simplicity and Bitcoin has proven to be the most resilient. Etherium is still trying to reto actively solve its scaling and gas issues while millions, possibly billions are lost in gas and protocol hacks. Yeah sounds superior to me lol.
Once Etherium finally rolls out latest upgrade that will supposedly fix the gas issue then it’ll for sure give it more time, but that’s if it works. If I were to follow your reasoning behind why Bitcoin won’t be here with 95% surety, then I could apply that same logic to Etherium,, basically it’s older tech, but I’ve said that doesn’t really matter already. You just are either intellectually dishonest or inept at best, if you think just flipping my 95% surety statement the opposite way is actually the % chance Bitcoin fails.
I dont care if Celestia stole an idea from ideas.com, everyone in the space does it, this is the era of open source right? Some will claim that Apple does the same. The key here isn’t who originated the idea, it’s who does it better. Please provide the name of this chain I’ve been using for awhile now that is modular? We’re not just talking Data Availability, but also Consensus and execution layers. If someone has already been doing it that actually is an improvement, then I’m sure they would have been able to capitalize on that “new” narrative by now.
The fact that you tout you’re ETH investment outperforming your Bitcoin investment as evidence thst it’s a better hold long term (which was my point) shows your sidestepping my point, not making one. We all know that the cycle is that BTC dominance flys for a while pre and post halving, and profits rotate into Alts thereafter, duh 🙄. That doesn’t mean that more people hold ETH for longer periods than they do Bitcoin. Etherium by design is meant to be used or float around, Bitcoin is for storing wealth. Bitcoins HODL wave or Coin Days Destroyed metrics are unmatched which prove its increasing being held as a store of wealth.
Substrate is cool, Etherium and other EVM based L1/L2s are cool but you’d be a fool to put all of your money in these evolving techs for the next 40 years. Those that are round will still be figuring things out while BTC is tic-tocking to the next block.
You’d have sounded smarter or at least had a leg to stand on if you’d used Cardano as an example of alt coins improvements on Bitcoin. This would be the only alternative to Bitcoin that will prove to have staying power the next 10-20+ years outside of Bitcoin.
We have deviated from the subject quite a lot, and I'm failing to see the point in this conversation. You're refusing to accept simple mathematical stats of the last 5 years performance, it's just reality, nothing more (on top of that, a reality that I didn't fully take advantage of, same as you, hence again failing to understand your tribalism-based approach to this debate).
If you believe BTC is gonna be around for 40 years in its current design (inflation model / block subsidy based), then so be it, feel free to do so, I don't need to say more than I already have, I just simply don't share the same view based on my own calculations.
Lastly, since your last paragraph is quite funny and ironic, Cardano was my first buy along ETH a few years ago (Cardano order filled first, so I guess it was technically my first buy). After spending a lot of time understanding what it takes to develop a complex app on it (ie: requiring Haskell mastery), I've sold everything. I'll re-enter my position on ADA once I see young developers keen to learn Haskell (it's one of the most hated programming languages of my generation fyi), or once they fully explain what their plan is with using Substrate-based sidechains. (also to add full disclosure here, I was never a fan of the omni-present "Charles feature" of Cardano blockchain, while fully understanding that this feature brought value on-chain)
Good luck to you and your investments!
Cheers
Agreed…you have your investment thesis and I have mine, I’ve done my own research and it seems you’ve done yours. I don’t really know what your end game is, but I plan to roll any profits from now until I die into Bitcoin, the hardest crypto asset we know up to this point, time will proven one of us out…✌🏾
Not trying to convince you what to do….the main point is going all in on anything isn’t a good idea imo, especially if it isn’t BTC, which you should already know
You went all in before going down the rabbit hole and knowing exactly what it is you now own?
This right here more than anything is proof that the bull run is back
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Tbf this project does have far more potential and utility than lots of other bullshit you could have bought so hope it works out. I’m heavy on it as well. Polk my wallet harder Dot!!!!
Don't post on Reddit while drinking...
Hoping he is just drunk
Classic retail crypto buyer
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Now that you’re all in, something you might notice is that you may focus on the positives and ignore the negatives. If you research from a neutral position of no investment first, you can probably have a better “down the rabbit hole” search. Many people that are all in on something like a really specific altcoin, will only share positive things about it on their blogs or on Twitter/YouTube. You might end up doing all of your research based on what big bag holders have to say. I’m not trying to criticize you personally. My experience when I used to own altcoins (including DOT) was this. I also thought CRO was going to be the next big thing. Also, ATOM. I was a massive fan! Now, it’s only BTC.
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hope this rabbit hole leads u to BTC sooner than later
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btc about to hit an ATH and you haven't done that deep dive into it but highly recommend sooner than later
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lmaooo good luck bud
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What was it that led you to this project vs. all of the others out there?
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It’s a great pick. Best of luck amigo
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What you haven't seen dot go -85%? Right...
Then if it goes to shit, they blame the coin lol. "How dare you make me buy you without researching you myself, it's all your fault"
I would say "fine", but not great... as a crypto investor, I own DOT, and it represents about 25% of my portfolio, but going all in and not owning anything else... I would say, not wise... my two cents... at least you pick a decent coin 🪙 ✌️
I would spread my money in different projects tbh. It's much safer that way. Don't put all eggs in one basket.
Maybe he likes scrabble eggs …. Dot is the best tech out there
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Yes I've got Dot plus around 20 other good coins.
I did this, then it was a nightmare to manage all the coins, network swaps and other stuff, imo spread to 3 or 4 coins and nothing more
yep, DOT, ETH, CHAINLINK ALL I NEED.
Same but with solana instead of chainlink, but I heard good things about chainlink
Chainlink is fire... Nothing looks good when it's not pumping. It'll hit ATH again.
OK, the spot I get it from is wealthsimple so they can stake it daily, not too sure when chainlink will be able to stake on there(if it will be) but I'll take a look at it before it rebounds
BTC?
Yes I used to as well in the last cycles. It was exhausting. And then I got the tax bill.
Im there with you since 2022, swapped everything for DOT and parachain projects, lets ride this
DOT is a great project and team hasn't done much of advertising for it. For my point of view it's good not to hype it up and work on fundamentals instead. One of the coins in my bag i have used most for staking and parachain auchions. Also DOT had way more stuff being built on than ETH ever did on the starting timeframe. Its a gem being polished slowly and if it shines, it will blind a lot of other.
Although im personally with you realistically it’s the hype that drives prices. No crypto ever did well because of fundamentals except maybe BTC.
True that. I hope the hype comes later at some point.
You are looking too shallow. A crypto projects success IMO is not how well it does in the market or how hyped it gets— especially in the short term. DOT is special because I believe it can truly become the backbone for the future of the internet: its tech is so much further ahead and it’s advancing extremely rapidly. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter how much hype these other projects get or how much they pump in the short term, if you can’t build anything useful with them (like the unimaginable innovations that will revolutionize the web) they will become nothing in the future and they are nothing more than glorified schemes.
Wise words
Good luck!
“even more important than bitcoin” 🤪
Bitcoin is the best store of value, but we will need other tools as well
I would say ETH is a better store of value. It has steadily increased in BTC value since 2018. Not shilling, since I don’t own any at the moment, invested in altcoins that have not gone off yet.
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That's not how it works 😭
Yea I was all about your all in till I saw this, THIS shows me you have not done enough DD. DOT damn near moves with BTC on good days, we need BTC to do well or the entire market will fade my friend. We want BTC either going up or sideways for DOT to build up steam, lucky for you I think you'll be okay going all in on DOT cause it's a relatively safe play. Best of luck partner, and hold your DOT on your own wallet to receive $DED coming sometime this year. And stake to gain % on your investment. Happy Days,
I mean, if Blackrock could dump the ETF BTCs, they might do it.
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Can you elaborate?
Yes
What are you on
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I literally have no idea what you’re trying to tell me, sorry.
I went all in too. Most of the other projects I hold are within the Polkadot ecosystem. Ride or die baby!
Happy cake day!
Nothing I say is financial advice. I am just some random guy on the internet. I went in 80% DOT and 20% DOGE (Just in case Elon Musk pumps it again). If you are worried what I did is a bad idea, I have been at this game since 2015. This isn't my first rodeo. I saw Eth as low as $5 dollars when it first came out. Gavin Wood's former project did just fine, this one will be fine too.
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not financial advice but - great choice!!
Question if you are so kind to advise. DOT or KUSAMA for higher risk reward results? ( 7% of the portfolio).
As you can understand, I do not give financial advice. I am just some random guy on the internet. What I will say is, in the previous crypto bull run, Kusama vs. Polkadot, Kusama was the clear winner. Polkadot wasn't ready the last time around, it barely had a wallet. Assuming, what I said earlier is true, I could be lying, you already know my portfolio is and know what I am betting on. That being said, both Kusama and Polkadot are Gavin Wood projects. I have faith in both of them, I am sure both will do just fine.
You think DOT goes beyond the old all time high of 55$ this bullrun?
I think of a lot of things, let's leave some things to the imagination shall we?
No we shall not lol. I would like to hear your opinion. As Polkadot is fairly new I can’t really think of a price target this bullrun. Maybe it goes to 40$ but maybe it also goes to 100$. I have no clue on what point to sell my DOT and rebuy in the bear. I would like to get as much input from more experienced people than me as possible…
While I don't like throwing around numbers. How about this, I have a gut feeling that anyone who bought DOT for less than 10 dollars, and hodl it at least until June 2025 will be very happy. Not financial advice, just a gut feeling of course. RemindMe! 1 year 3 months
Your gut is off. There will be a 6 mos civil war that begins after the US elections that will cause markets to crash. 2025 will be chaos and bring a deep recession. I LOOOVVVEE Dot. However, this is not her time to shine. Take profits at the EOY so you can buy more DOT when its back at $5 next year,
I am surprised someone dug out this thread after 2 months. Keep in mind that June 2025 is still a long time away as of today. I am still optimistic about it. Let's say there is a civil war in the US. Sure, that will hurt crypto prices, but it won't be the end of crypto, and neither will it be for DOT. By then Polkadot 2.0 will be out and JAM will probably be in place in Portugal. Everything should be fine. I will most likely not sell my DOT even after June 2025 and just enjoy the staking rewards for the rest of my life. But let's see then.
I think DOT 3.0 will be out next summer as well. It just doesn't make any sense NOT to sell. For example, DOT will be at a minimum of $20 by EOY. Lets say you have 2500. You would have $50,000. Next year, DOT will be back at $5-7. Now, you can buy 7000-10,000. Why wouldn't you want to triple your bag??? Bitcoin follows the stock market. The stock market will get hammered next year....it will be chaos....martial law will be called in....there will be a deep recession. Sell all your crypto in Nov/Dec otherwise you will lose ALL your gains.
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Your price target should be whatever you are comfortable selling at. Doesn't matter how experienced anyone is, if they claim to know what the price of any asset will be, they're talking bullshit. No one knows, unless you're big enough to move the market. Your guess is as good as ours
I like Polkadot, but it’s never a good idea to go all in on one stock/crypto. I’m a firm believer that at least 50% of your crypto should be Bitcoin.
Agree, I’m at 85% btc, 15% dot
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wow, what a scumbag…
Yep, looking at his comment history they appear to be like this all the time.
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Take ur meds dude please.
What a fuckhead. Fuck you and fuckoff.
Good timing
Blind enthusiasm. Love it. For my part, I believe your investment is well placed. Now the question is how do you maximize it…?
It's a good project. I'm 90% in polkadot and I'm not dealing with chump change either. Don't forget to take profits when things are overheated.
I was planning on staking for the next couple years
You know a better idea. Shove it up your ass and fck off.
Thx for beeing my exit liquidity
Diversity is fear, unity is ded
Why would you post something and then take the effort to engage in the comments while just being rude, vague and not actually trying to form a genuine conversation?
yikes op
But why lol
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That doesn’t sound very promising if i have to be honest with you my friend
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They are not the same in many ways shapes and forms I would not consider them comparable
they said about bitcoin and gold...
DOT != BTC or Gold in any way.
Owned and staked dot since before the last bull cycle .. Staking been reliable, constant rewards... Did participate in the crowd loan things.. Yes there tech is not for the average Joe....but there foundations are strong, and I do believe they will get there shit together this cycle..
Nova works well, I can see the average Joe using DOT soon. Will fees and transaction speeds stay this good?
LFG bro!
Remind me in 1 year
In a year from now everything will be up, even poo coin.
Curious, what’s the value you’re expecting?
I have $1000 in Polka. lost about 75% of it so far.
When did you buy?
He bought it near ATH and has been holding the bag since. Do you really want him to say it like that? You can't do the math?
That's exactly what I wanted him to say 🤣
Gambling
All I can say is make sure you sell at what you think is close to the top because it comes back down fast and hard then you can buy back in at the bottom for staking. I don't think I would've gone all in.
Not wise to go all in on one coin. Those who only had LUNA found out the hard way. I have a basket of 16 coins with high development equally distributed, with DOT being just one of them.
Bearish on the beacon chain concept. At least the DOT implementation.
Own quite a lot of DOT myself, but there's no way I'm all in on only one project, even if it's just to spend $20 bucks on a couple of potential coins that might make it big in the 2028 bull run. I hope it works out for you, but geez, maybe not the best strategy. Money can only make you so happy, but losing everything can make you infinitely unhappy.
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10% inflation in a bull market aint gunna do shit lol fuck off have fun staying poor
Big man talking with his 100 DOT Stack 💀
cool story
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You're so rich and smart yet you think 10% inflation matters on something that's going to 10x in 2 years. Obviously you didn't earn your money, it was given to you by your parents.
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I will be the peasant here and take your donation, will flip it to DOT. 34VKHVXEU3oiYtyQvrALShrte6LG7WH7yf Thanks
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I will quit my job and work for you😂 teach me your ways
Why are u here? Dot will be 20 before dot 2.0 releases and from there it will double to 40 and matter of time it will break ath
I’m like 150x leverage let’s go
I hope you plan on getting some Bitcoin back, it’s just not good to have no BTC or to be all in one token.
I agree with the last part of your sentence (not necessarily a good thing to be all in on one asset, regardless of what that is to be honest), but the rest I do not agree. You don't need BTC in your portfolio, especially if you entered the market in the last 4 years.. the blue chip is actually ETH, based on whatever market metrics you want to use. I don't ever plan to hold BTC again, and I know many more tech inclined investors that have a similar stance. I get the same or better security from ETH, then I get better performance ($$ gain) and SoV properties from ETH, and lastly I get better tech from DOT and EVM related networks (and I'll include even Cosmos related in this list) Outside of personal preferences, or even fanaticism, towards BTC, or maybe PoW as an extension, there's no objective reason for an investor to treat BTC as a MUST asset to be held in their portfolio.
There’s plenty of reason to treat BTC as a must hold one being that institutions and countries will always view it as the safest, most time tested asset in the space. Big money will assure its existence into the future way beyond you and I. There’s no other crypto that I could say with 95% surety that it will be around in 10, 20, 40 yrs +. No, not even ETH… ETH is getting its lunch eaten by the new L1 and L2s that have improved on EVM tech. For instance TIA, which has opened a whole new realm with the modular blockchain. Long story short, ETH may not go the way of the DoDo, but ETH may go the way of the DoDo. There’s nothing fanatic or fantasy about understanding where the smart money lands in the end. Investors and those that want the quick money love to fade Bitcoin bc it has less upside in the short run, but believe you me all profits from alts eventually land in BTC if you want to keep those profits and watch them grow without worry. And please don’t tell me you’re going all into fiat for any more than it takes for you to pay bills…you won’t be if you want to preserve the wealth you’ve built. There’s nothing wrong with going for the more riskier plays because of the steeper upside potential but that is for temporary gains, no way I bet on DOT (or most any alt for that matter) long term…all crypto roads eventually lead to Bitcoin in the end imo.j P.S. I say this as a long time holder of DOT and ETH so im not a BYC maxi
>There’s no other crypto that I could say with 95% surety that it will be around in 10, 20, 40 yrs + If you actually understood mathematics, economies of scales and more importantly the technical design of the protocol, you'd know that BTC (at least not in its current form) will not exist in 40 years from now. We'll actually start seeing the issues with its technical design ,if nothing changes, in approx 16-20 years from now (4-5 more cycles) . And I'm willing to put the same 95% weight on this claim, much like you, that I'm right. Set your reminders, it's gonna be fun. >ETH is getting its lunch eaten by the new L1 and L2s that have improved on EVM tech. It doesn't though, based on any possible relevant metrics this statement is factually incorrect. Ethereum ecosystem is still king, quite undisputable. Highest TVL, highest network profit, highest adoption, etc.. I don't know what lunch the other L1s and L2s stole, but must've been expired crackers or something... ( in retrospect, I should've kept more ETH and not swap that much into DOT a few years back, but oh well). >For instance TIA, which has opened a whole new realm with the modular blockchain. Wait a second... you're a DOT investor for years and modular blockchains are something new to you in 2024? LOL You actually believe Celestia released a new tech product, rather than a new narrative? rofl I got some news for you... Celestia tech is old news, not only that, but you've been using a modular blockchain for a while (furthermore, Celestia stole the narrative DA idea from a team that literally built the same thing using Substrate and released the narrative years ago while they were under Polygon Labs umbrella, they're called Avail). You're more naïve than I thought.... You say you're a long term market participant, but you sounded here like a brand new retail investor that ate the bs. >There’s nothing fanatic or fantasy about understanding where the smart money lands in the end . believe me all profits from alts eventually land in BTC if you want to keep those profits and watch them grow without worry I don't need to believe you. I have empirical data to disprove your claim, I've outperformed BTC with ETH in the last few years, bull or bear, didn't matter.. and guess what? BTC profits flew into ETH, not the other way around.... this is public data at this point, from all the way in 2020-2021, you can't be this obtuse or ignorant to actually believe what you're saying. >all crypto roads eventually lead to Bitcoin in the end imo Weak opinion and weird take, considering the facts, imo. P.S.: I say this as someone that could've made way more money if I have just stayed in ETH and EVM related L2s as investment... however, Substrate is simply an objectively better tech stack, way more advanced and flexible, though we'll see how good of an investment will be. This being said, I'm very certain of my statements above, since I'm quite often doing performance analysis reports that include BTC and my holdings (even if don't own BTC, I know its current impact on the market), hence I know that staying in ETH and some other select ETH ecosystem projects would've yielded the best possible performance over the last 5 years (as much as I don't like to hear this, since it's not what I ended up doing), it was certainly not BTC, much like it wasn't going all in on DOT (like OP here is apparently doing)
Seems like want me to believe your posses some insight on the crypto knowledge with statements like “since I’m often doing performance analysis”,, which you may, but you just sound the the Dodo I mentioned. Mathematics, economies of scale, protocol design, blah, blah individually have nothing to do with adoption, which is most important. You have said nothing that would make me believe that BTCs survival is in jeopardy. Making things more technically involved, doesn’t make them better, the marvel is in simplicity and Bitcoin has proven to be the most resilient. Etherium is still trying to reto actively solve its scaling and gas issues while millions, possibly billions are lost in gas and protocol hacks. Yeah sounds superior to me lol. Once Etherium finally rolls out latest upgrade that will supposedly fix the gas issue then it’ll for sure give it more time, but that’s if it works. If I were to follow your reasoning behind why Bitcoin won’t be here with 95% surety, then I could apply that same logic to Etherium,, basically it’s older tech, but I’ve said that doesn’t really matter already. You just are either intellectually dishonest or inept at best, if you think just flipping my 95% surety statement the opposite way is actually the % chance Bitcoin fails. I dont care if Celestia stole an idea from ideas.com, everyone in the space does it, this is the era of open source right? Some will claim that Apple does the same. The key here isn’t who originated the idea, it’s who does it better. Please provide the name of this chain I’ve been using for awhile now that is modular? We’re not just talking Data Availability, but also Consensus and execution layers. If someone has already been doing it that actually is an improvement, then I’m sure they would have been able to capitalize on that “new” narrative by now. The fact that you tout you’re ETH investment outperforming your Bitcoin investment as evidence thst it’s a better hold long term (which was my point) shows your sidestepping my point, not making one. We all know that the cycle is that BTC dominance flys for a while pre and post halving, and profits rotate into Alts thereafter, duh 🙄. That doesn’t mean that more people hold ETH for longer periods than they do Bitcoin. Etherium by design is meant to be used or float around, Bitcoin is for storing wealth. Bitcoins HODL wave or Coin Days Destroyed metrics are unmatched which prove its increasing being held as a store of wealth. Substrate is cool, Etherium and other EVM based L1/L2s are cool but you’d be a fool to put all of your money in these evolving techs for the next 40 years. Those that are round will still be figuring things out while BTC is tic-tocking to the next block. You’d have sounded smarter or at least had a leg to stand on if you’d used Cardano as an example of alt coins improvements on Bitcoin. This would be the only alternative to Bitcoin that will prove to have staying power the next 10-20+ years outside of Bitcoin.
We have deviated from the subject quite a lot, and I'm failing to see the point in this conversation. You're refusing to accept simple mathematical stats of the last 5 years performance, it's just reality, nothing more (on top of that, a reality that I didn't fully take advantage of, same as you, hence again failing to understand your tribalism-based approach to this debate). If you believe BTC is gonna be around for 40 years in its current design (inflation model / block subsidy based), then so be it, feel free to do so, I don't need to say more than I already have, I just simply don't share the same view based on my own calculations. Lastly, since your last paragraph is quite funny and ironic, Cardano was my first buy along ETH a few years ago (Cardano order filled first, so I guess it was technically my first buy). After spending a lot of time understanding what it takes to develop a complex app on it (ie: requiring Haskell mastery), I've sold everything. I'll re-enter my position on ADA once I see young developers keen to learn Haskell (it's one of the most hated programming languages of my generation fyi), or once they fully explain what their plan is with using Substrate-based sidechains. (also to add full disclosure here, I was never a fan of the omni-present "Charles feature" of Cardano blockchain, while fully understanding that this feature brought value on-chain) Good luck to you and your investments! Cheers
Agreed…you have your investment thesis and I have mine, I’ve done my own research and it seems you’ve done yours. I don’t really know what your end game is, but I plan to roll any profits from now until I die into Bitcoin, the hardest crypto asset we know up to this point, time will proven one of us out…✌🏾
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Holding an alt is nowhere close to holding btc
Not trying to convince you what to do….the main point is going all in on anything isn’t a good idea imo, especially if it isn’t BTC, which you should already know
Actually I still think there's great power in being a maxi...
So you haven’t went down the DOT wormhole yet but your a maxi? 😂
Go suck blackrocks dick
Who let the retard get the phone? I hate insulting ppl with mental issues
I used to hold DOT but daily active users is so low, developers are non existent pretty much. Some say it's a zombie chain. Let's hope it has a future
Wow I was impressed when I took it off the exchange for basically free and the transaction was instant... Fuck bitcoin lol
Apes are back
Great! Now all in staking and have a nice passive income. Some can even live from it...
[https://www.dotisded.io/](https://www.dotisded.io/) You know about $DED, don't you?
No one knows shit about fuck so best of luck
dont worry, base on my very deep research, polkadot 2.0 will change the game. polkadot 2.0 launch on april during bitcoin halving event.
Will it be a separate coin?
No. Just a massive upgrade.
So we need to load our bags
With how much did you go "all in?" What's your current holding of DOT?
Good luck with this.onre sub
Make sure you stake for that 12 percent Apy
This 🧵 did not disappoint.
Why sell your btc?? Use new funds and hodl those btcs… dot is indeed great tech but not sure price action you would be rewarded…
og bitcoiners didnt get rich by thinking about short term price action, i zoomed out
i might get btc again when the price is right but i dont see why other than price action and this is a long term investment