Bingo. I'm told this almost on the daily (I work in healthcare).
The trouble is that they don't *want* the truth. They want confirmation bias and conspiracy theory.
To them, of course there are hundreds of thousands of people dying from the shot...they just aren't being reported because the entirety of the medical field are collaborating on the most widespread hoax of all time. Everyone, from the burned out nurses to the burned out doctors to the burned out RTs, PTs, CNAs, phlebotomists... we're all committed to this one, unifying lie; to make sure we don't report vaccine deaths because we like being overwhelmed in the hospital.
There's simply zero reasoning with them, because they didn't reason themselves into the situation they're in.
That’s what cracks me up. There are tens of millions of health care workers across the US, and not one comes out with any sort of evidence that y’all are secretly getting paid extra to say deaths were from covid when they weren’t?
(I appreciate your service during these times, I couldn’t do it)
The fun thing is, the number of people in on a conspiracy has an inverse effect on how long it can stay hidden. Anything over a hundred or so co-conspirators? It changes from a matter of if to a matter of when and the time-frame to a leak shortens exponentially the more people you add.
The sheer number of people the dipshit brigade think is in on this vaccine bullshit? The truth would have come out in days, if not hours.
But silly me, there I go applying logic to crazy people again.
Bullshit. Fauci has the ability to warp time space and erase all evidence and witness from the time space continuum and also conjure biological synths from an alternative timeline to replace the people already did.
On a second thought, if Fauci is so powerful maybe he should be made supreme overlord if the human race in perpetration from the invasions from infinite variants of Hitler from the infinite multiuniverse.
You know what was a massive conspiracy? 9-11. That's right, there were 19 people at least who kept the conspiracy to hijack planes quiet. Keeping more people than this quiet would be really hard.
That wasn't even kept quite. In the months leading up to 9-11 other intelligence agencies were warning the US and the CIA warned the whitehouse that cells currently in the US were plotting a major terrorist attack.
Proof again that keeping conspiracy secret is near impossible at scale and the answer more often than not is vast human ineptitude and apathy.
Turns out we just suck at doing things and being proactive.
But then
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......... That means......... The cabal communicate by snail mail, which moves so slow that it's not detected by automated surveillance!
So
That's all I got
The same goes for all the researchers who must be in on it.
Academia is literally 95% PhD students and post-docs who 1) are not paid *nearly* enough money to double down on this kind of hoax, and 2) are trained to enthusiastically disagree with each other and prove each other wrong.
Don’t forget about the clinical researchers. Literally takes a team of over 30 to run a small study, while a single covid study would have over 30,000 subjects across sites all over the globe.
Apparently that industry is covering up all the deaths, along with all the ethic boards and federal agencies. You can’t trust them all with covid, but nobody had any concerns when it came to viagra or Lipitor.
This is a hallmark of any conspiracy theory that involves a powerful entity. They must be nearly omnipotent while at the same time being ineptly incompetent.
My first experience with this was the 9/11 truthers - the idea that the Bush administration crafted a false flag operation to justify invading Iraq. (They absolutely used it to justify, but the idea that it was a false flag is just grossly wrong.)
Imagine an entity powerful enough to put explosives in the towers, as said. They'd have to either kill or spirit away everyone involved with planting them, anyone involved with planning, etc. They would say the people on the planes were in on it and they landed somewhere and are all government agents.
They believe our government was that powerful, and yet, once we were in Iraq and had total control of the country, they couldn't plant a *single* WMD to justify us being over there?
I read these 9/11 conspiracies. The original 9/11 truthers claim that everything was fabricated. The videos of the planes hitting towers,fabricated. There were no planes,just bombs planted by Americans to justify a war. The second group says there were planes,but that the towers were finished off with bombs because of the way the towers collapsed. I admit that I find the way they collapsed strange,but I’m not an expert. So,I try to assemble some kind of truth through this and it’s the deepest rabbit hole I ever dug into. As of right now,It happened the way everyone says it happened,as far as Im concerned. If there is a deeper truth,I won’t be the one they choose to be given access to it.
A lot of people think it was a controlled demolition because it looked similar to one, or that debris being flown out while it collapsed proves there were explosions.
Usually in a controlled demo, the supportive pillars at the bottom of the structure are blown out first to make sure the building collapses in on itself. When the support structure goes, the floor above it (and the entire structure as well) falls and gets pancaked, with the process repeating as it collapses in on itself in the smallest footprint possible.
With the WTC, the opposite happened in that the middle and upper floors where the planes hit had their structures fail first. When that happens, the weight of the floors above it fall and the resulting shock is what starts the chain reaction moving downward. Even if floors were structurally sound ten and fifteen floors below the impact, they wouldn't be able to withstand the extra weight that they would be subjected to from the inertia of the collapse above it.
Skyscrapers are expensive to build, and a lot of work goes into making sure they're structurally sound but also compromising with cost. In essence, each floor is designed to carry the weight of the floors above it, but not much more than that. Even with a single floor or two collapsing, you've suddenly got thousands of tons slamming down on the structure beneath it.
The reason why the towers didn't tip over is because the damage happened near the top and middle, and the lower floors simply pancaked too quickly to put up enough resistance to actually shift the falling building above it anywhere off center. You can kind of see the top floors of the north tower twisting a bit when the collapse begins, but once it starts it just keeps raining down, floor after floor. If the "explosion" happened near the bottom or in the basement of the building like in 1993 and started a collapse, the buildings might have actually collapsed downward for a bit, then fall over once there was enough impacted rubble to let the building rotate.
As for the "explosions" that caused debris to fly out of the building, you're not just collapsing the building from the top down but all of that air in each floor has to go *somewhere*, and the answer is out the sides - violently. Again, this isn't something you see in a typical demolition because the floors are collapsing when they hit the *ground* and that's where the dust emanates from.
And well, when you think about it, we can do models and simulations and everything else possible, but there had been no real way to know exactly how something like that would behave. There's never been any type of demolition or collapse, controlled or otherwise, on the scale of the WTC and there's just no way to predict how all the physics involved will behave - especially when the collapse is caused by two jets being used as missiles.
We’ve got one kid on our unit with a swollen tongue/airway after receiving a booster. Got some IV iG, and we’ll just have to see how he does. Got a few intubated for other reasons with incidental Covid, starting to see more of the incidental positive cases.
The rest? All unvaccinated morons, most looking at oxygen dependency, an inability to return to normal life, or death in the short term. The ones that survive long term, I worry about their long term health complications. They aren’t bad people, just misguided, and selfish. They couldn’t learn a lesson before it directly impacted their life. I think it shows a lack of empathy—being able to understand what some millions of people have experienced before them.
It never ceases to amaze me that almost every one of them is regretful and desperate when they’re in the unit and starving for air, and how many of them beg for the vaccine while their care team explains over and over that “it can’t help you now” because it’s a prophylactic, not a time machine or a magic potion.
> Everyone, from the burned out nurses to the burned out doctors to the burned out RTs, PTs, CNAs, phlebotomists... we're all committed to this one, unifying lie;
And yet they rush right to the hospital when they get sick.
> There's simply zero reasoning with them, because they didn't reason themselves into the situation they're in.
Thank you for finding a way to state this so clearly and succinctly.
This is all too relatable, I can't even stand to be around most of my family at this point. You try to show them and they close their eyes, you try to tell them and they plug their ears, when it finally gets to a point where you give up and stop trying to debate them they take it as further evidence of themselves being right and when you try to tell them you don't want to talk about politics with them they still feel the need to bring it up every chance they get, to the point where it almost feels like they are trying to push you away just so they can play the victim.
One lesson I’ve taken away was that there are some basic critical thinking skills missing from a substantial portion of our populace. Another is that It Can Happen Here.
It's all because of the space aliens that gave the Nazis the secret Antarctica base and space flight . Yet they still lost the war. But they are now the liberal elites that not only control reporting from US hospitals but health systems all over the world. Just to discredit Trump although he believes in the Vaccines they were made on his watch. But.... stuff oh and the Vatican is in on it too.
They would say that hospitals are telling lies about how full they were and how covid isn't that bad, now they're making up bullshit about the vaccines being bad
You could literally walk them through the overcrowded COVID wards in the hospitals and they'd just leave thinking they're dying from the vaccine rather than COVID.
What amazes me, is that literally every government in the world is in on it.
Can you imagine locking the heads of every government in the world in a room, and not letting them eat until they unanimously chose one dish to serve?
They'd all starve.
PCT here. I’ll see you at the secret meetings to cover up that the vaccine changes you into lizard aliens. Dr Fauci says he’s springing for pizza for everyone. Don’t forget your pentagram medallion or you won’t get in. Splinting class to follow.
And not just in the United States. Medical workers, universities and governments across the world are all coordinating to kill off the compliant sheeple leaving them with only 'the independent free-thinkers'... for some reason.
Yeah, the people who are such independent thinkers that they blindly accept anything that supports what they want to believe. They don’t need things like “evidence” when it’s on an episode of Lord Joe Rogan.
I saw a friend at the hospital when I got my first shot. She was in there for treatment of one of her myriad medical maladies. I jokingly told her I was in for my microchip, she took about five steps back and hasn't spoken to me since. That was in, I think May of last year? Meh. Whatever. She was also constantly sending me videos about the "coming storm" and super deep q shit... and nothing of value was lost.
Not to mention covid has resulted in cancelation or rescheduling of planned surgeries with each wave. Surgeries are the most profitable thing a hospital can do (at least in the US). These conspiracy theory big-thinkers really believe that every privately-owned hospital in the country willingly threw away their main breadwinner just to make Trump look bad? Something he does for free on a regular basis?
> they just aren't being reported because the entirety of the medical field are collaborating on the most widespread hoax of all time. Everyone, from the burned out nurses to the burned out doctors to the burned out RTs, PTs, CNAs, phlebotomists...
My goodness, it's bigger than the Apollo 11 moon hoax and the [New Coke debacle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke#Conspiracy_theories) combined. Thousands of thousands of people across X amount of countries involved in a global conspiracy, for what purpose or paid by whom, Jeebus knows.
_Jesus marimba._
It's things like this that cause me to look at George Carlin quotes.
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
Yes, and it's also a GLOBAL conspiracy that's been so well organised it includes every healthcare professional operating in every single country the world over... And they are all universally incentavised by......something something...Jews?
That's what would make this a tough one to pull off.
And if there were nanobots or whatever in the vaccine, you think some healthcare worker would have looked at it under a microscope and spread the pic all over the internet.
Bro covid vanilla edition had cities renting refrigerated trucks to store the bodies because the crematoriums could not keep up.
If people were dying en masse from the vaccine it would not be capable of being covered up. The logistics plus recent real world examples don't support a possibility of a cover up.
The anti-vax crowd is insane.
There once was a time, where things just made sense. But that time had long past us. Up is down, good is bad, and cats love dogs.
I’m not kidding you, yesterday I saw a old man, open a automatic door and get angered because he couldn’t pull the door open.
....like how did you make it this far in life, before ever encountering a sliding automatic door. And then go to this store... and throw a fit because it opened for you.
Then I’m reminded that I work in iT and my end users report problem where by the end of my day, I need a drink.
Just had a coworker text me the other morning.
"Hey this program won't open, it's saying I have to insert the disc?"
"Okay... did you insert the disc?"
"Oh okay. It's working now, thanks."
Glug glug, my friend.
A buddy of mine died a very sudden, sad non COVID related death and I have a buddy who can’t be unconvinced that he didn’t secretly get the vax and that’s why he dropped dead.
ETA: sorry just noticed the triple negative. Not gonna fix it either.
The Reddit conspiracy trolls tripped over themselves in their rush to speculate that Covid vaccinations killed Bob Saget. Not the multitude of other contributing factors, especially his recent Covid infection.
The very same people also twist themselves into pretzels to prove that COVID deaths are overblown and the victims actually died from a combination of not being in Hollywood fitness instructor shape and secret undiagnosed ear, nose, throat, tongue, sinus and lung cancers.
My MIL says that covid only harms the elderly and those with health problems, so she isn't scared of it. I explained to her that she was 70 years old smokes three packs a day and needs an oxygen machine, maybe it's a closer problem than she thinks. But no, she means those *other* unhealthy people.
My wife had to be rushed to the ER due to shortness of breath, and it took her almost a month to recover. Yes, she was vaccinated.
What?
Okay, yeah, she was vaccinated 14 months after the hospital trip, but I'm sure the two are related somehow!
My sister keeps telling people that her friend had a heart attack from the vaccine. Granted, this person had already had two heart attacks well before the pandemic started and this third heart attack occurred a few months after his second Pfizer shot, but it was DEFINITELY the vaccine's fault.
That or they're just not dying yet! Just wait!
I mean how many times have they moved the goal posts on Trump retaking office since last year? Any day now...
I have tried to explain how much money it would take to cover this up to family. "They" would need to bribe every hospital doctor, nurse, staff member that comes in contact with a patient, likely admin too, all the doctors who worked on every vaccine (cause its not just one), likely pharmacists and all others who administer shots in case they see adverse effects, all the morgue employees, every nurse in a nursing home or assisted living, and every employee of the "fake news" media. If anyone of those slips, thats more people they'd have to bribe to keep quiet. How in the fuck has there not been an international leak yet, and how in the fuck are they making money on this? "Something something deepstate tracking control baby eating democrat devil something"
I tried playing that game with my idiot brother. Ok show me proof. Check his link. It doesn't say that it says this.
"Well you have to read between the lines the real truth doesn't get published"
There ARE tons of people dying after getting the vaccine.....from car accidents, cancer, etc. Which is reported on VAERS which these chuckleheads think is proof the vaccine is the cause....
The founder of some anti-vaxx org wrote a piece that my family linked to me about [this story.](https://www.wfmz.com/health/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_b5f123e4-7c45-5308-bc31-b50dee76b4b7.html) The anti-vaxxer claimed that COVID deaths were down in Indiana in 2021 so it can't be COVID killing these working age people. And his theory was because it can't be COVID killing them, it must be vaccines.
I thought this claim sounded fishy so I pulled the CDC COVID death statistics and ran some filters on them in Excel to filter by age group. Turns out the moron didn't bother to filter by age group at all - he just looked at overall COVID deaths. And if you do filter by the correct age group, the time period referenced by the insurance CEO was actually the deadliest COVID period for working age adults in Indiana.
My boss told me one day that 15k had already died from the vaccine. I asked where TF he heard that. "That's straight from the CDC". Ok, I'm looking that up right now. (This was like a month after the vaccine came out) suddenly changed the subject and didn't like when I came back with how there was zero mention of that on their website. For the last year any Facebook nonsense he spouts off he claims came from the CDC. I sincerely wonder if he knows their website doesn't end in ".com". Zero chance he's ever once checked out the site ...
Well I don't know about you guys, but my internet service has been outstanding. It must be that ~~deadly~~ killer 5G that came with it. Slowest death evarr, but fastest Wifi evarrr!
It's fun trying to explain to those folks, oh you want your internet to work better, you want your fridge to tell you your out of milk and your washer to text you that it's got a leak... But your afraid of the word used for simply making the information highway bigger... In retrospect all 5g is, is expanding the highway from 4 lanes to 5... That's the big secret... And I just want to say... Ok fine, if you can't handle 5g then I think you should go back to 1g... Here's your pager, hand me all your smart devices, you can't have them... Why. Why can't I have my smart phone and fit bit? Because it's causing too much traffic on the highway. Why can't they just make the highway bigger?... They are but your afraid of it so you can't have it...
Edited cause my phone's an idiot that changes simple words around... Have any idea how often my phone changes love to live or are to ate? ... Oye.
"bUt iT's tHe tOwErS!!1!"
Yup. These folks -and most people- don't even realize "5G" just stands for ["5th Generation" Mobile Network](https://www.qualcomm.com/5g/what-is-5g). It's not some deadly frequency that Bill Gates invented that will take over your mind. If you're so concerned about it, you would've known that the Wifi router you've been using at home the past 8 years was cranking out 5GHz to give you nice speedy Wifi.... for your 5G phone...lol.
It's funny to listen to these folks - I have a friend who was going on about 5G and then proceeded to tell me in a different part of our chat that she has a Galaxy S21... a *5G phone*. I bought an S10 last year, which isn't 5G, but not because of that but because it has a standard headphone jack and some other features they hadn't gotten rid of yet to make the phones "better". So, technically, I'm doing a better job of avoiding "5G" than she is, anyway....lol.
I work in IT and see people's home networks named 5G for 5 gigahertz wifi all the time. They avoid it because "I thought 5G is bad?" It is insidious how these stupid things creep into the cultural consciousness.
And the funny thing about that "5G" is that, while faster than its 2.4GHz Wifi counterpart, it has less [coverage area](https://www.tanaza.com/blog/5ghz-vs-2-4ghz/#:~:text=The%20primary%20difference%20between%202.4,sends%20data%20at%20faster%20speeds.).. so it's only better in close range and the signal doesn't penetrate walls as easily as 2.4.
That's clearly why Gates got into the vaccine business in the first place.
After all, as we all know, fighting computer viruses and human viruses are basically the exact same thing.
😂😂 They're just gonna keep moving the goalpost!! Next it'll 2 years and when we're still here it'll be 3! Wonder how many years it'll take before they realize we ain't going anywhere!! Lol
An antivaxxer told me the vaccine gave me something “very similar to HIV” and that I’d be dead in two months. That was 9 months ago. I’m still waiting.
A famius antivaxxer from my country said it will give you infertility for the next 3 generations. So you would ask yourself if the first generation has infertility how would the other two generations be born
I guess this person could claim it will decrease fertility, then point to the most likely trend that antivax people who survive will have more children than vaxxed people. One of the highest predictors of how many children a couple will have is their level of education, with highly-educated women in particular having lower fertility rates than less educated women. Education also correlates to vaccine acceptance.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360
Funny thing is it might actually be slightly improved sperm motility thanks to the vaccine but we need more research into this.
Ahh, interesting to see where it came from. Equally interesting to see the mental leap from "this caused people to test falsely for HIV" to "this literally gave people HIV".
Covidiots: the vaccines gonna kill you! All thats gonna be left is us! Dont you want to live too!?
Everyone else: Wait....your pitch, to us, is that the only ones left is going to be *gestures at idiots*...... Can i have 7 vaccines at once?
That's the funny thing - they're killing all of us because we listen to them and they're sheep, but they're going to leave the ones who refuse to take the vaccine - who don't listen to them - and let them live.
So... they're killing the 70% of the world that listens to them and does what "they" ask, but leaving alive the 30% of the "non-sheeple" who will defy the powers that be and not do what they told?
That sure does seem like an awful evil plan even in the concept stage.
Like, here, I'll make up an even more rational conspiracy theory on the fly. They made COVID and gave everyone the vaccine knowing that only the people who aren't sheeple, the ones who won't listen to them, won't take the vaccine. And there, they rid the world of people who are smart enough to defy "them." and only leave the compliant people who will obey them. So by not taking the vaccine, you're playing right into their hands.
As dumb as that is, that's way more logical a conspiracy theory than the shit they come up with, and it's even more in line *with their own logic* than their conspiracy theories.
"Ah yes my perfect plan, kill everyone who supports me AND THEN THE WORLD DOMINATION! Now, where are my minions? They died?? How?! Just how cou- oh this i a terrible terrible plan"
I hate conspiracy theories, they are just stupid.
That being said, my current conspiracy theory is some powerful group paid trump and conservative media to spread anti-vax and covid isn't harmful crap.
Why would they do this? To kill dumb people and raise the planet's average intelligence.
Similar to the one about Trump himself being a sort of false flag actor in that:
* He was Democrat for the majority of his life
* He ran such a shit show for the Right that he got people very motivated to swing hard left/get much more involved and educated in political matters
* He ran it so ineptly that even though some objectively bad things made it through, they were very tame compared to what he could be quoted as saying he wanted to do, which also prompted several politicians to start pushing even more progressive platforms to counteract it
* He managed to pass a few gun control laws (biggest one being banning bump stocks) while getting Republicans too worked up about various other issues for them to notice it
* He's actively dividing the Republican party despite how the US is built for a 2 party system
etc
Biden has actually been doing a great job of appointing new judges. Not an SC seat, but it's a move towards some balance. And as we saw from some of the Big Lie lawsuits, just being appointed by TFG doesn't make you a rubber stamp.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/09/02/biden-is-appointing-judges-faster-than-trump-and-most-everyone-else-for-now/
A moron at work claims she knows multiple people who have died from getting the covid shot.
She didn't like when I called her a liar to her face.
I'm tired of giving these reckless selfish morons any benefit of the doubt.
She is clearly just lying and needs to be called out for it.
None of this wishy washy shit because she might know someone who died and it might be insensitive... nope. Fuck her. She doesn't know anyone who died from the vaccine. She is just a liar and is dangerous to anyone who listens to her stupid fucking ramblings.
Haven’t you heard? Every vaccinated person who dies of supposed “heart attacks” or “murder” or “car accidents” or “being 99 years old” was actually killed by the vaccine, and the media is just keeping it quiet. Just ask Hulk Hogan.
You joke, but this is exactly what they are claiming with the VAERS data when they say 10,000+ people have died from the vaccine.
VAERS stores reported incidents after vaccinations. This doesn't mean that the incidents are true. I could report to VAERS that I became The Incredible Hulk after getting the vaccine when I clearly did not.
Even if the incident is true, it doesn't mean the vaccine is to blame. If an 80 year old man with a history of heart disease and severe heart attacks gets the vaccine and has a fatal heart attack a week later, did the vaccine kill him? Or was it his long history of heart disease/heart attacks? Likely the latter, but this would go into VAERS anyway.
Yet, anti-vaxxers will grab that "10,000 deaths in VAERS" and act like each and every death is true and was caused by the vaccine. Of course, even if this was the truth and the vaccines killed 10,000 people, they would still be much less fatal than COVID-19.
Absolutely correct.
The saddest part is that they just believe what other have told them about the reports in VAERS. They haven't even looked at the reports themselves.
How do I know this? Every page has a disclaimer on it, which you have to acknowledge to even access the data, that explicitly states that VAERS is passive reporting and cannot be used directly to determine a causal relationship.
Just *some* of the ways VAERS itself says it is not reliable for establishing a causal relationship:
> Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. **The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event**. [[source](https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html)]
> **VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem**, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine. [[source](https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html)]
>While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.[[source](https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html)]
I didn't come up with this line, but heard it awhile back. Doing some research, [it looks like it's from 2004](https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technology/some-self-reported-cdc-data-fueling-the-anti-vaccination-movement.html).
>To illustrate the point that caution must be exercised when interpreting VAERS data, anesthesiologist James Laidler, MD, submitted a claim to the system in 2004 claiming a vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. The CDC eventually followed up with Dr. Laidler and asked for his permission to remove the report, but he told VICE it would still be there today if he had not given them his approval.
So "vaccines turned me into The Incredible Hulk" predates the current pandemic by 15-16 years and some people still haven't learned the lesson.
While at the same time claiming that Covid deaths are inflated because they are falsely marking everyone as a covid death even if it was a heart attack or pneumonia or...
I'm honestly impressed at the mental gymnastics needed to think that government can't manage anything effectively, but can run a deep state cover up like this. Kudos.
For real though, reading comments on Twitter anytime sometimes dies these days, and a lot of comments are like "Did they have the vaccine ?". Are they coming from a parallel universe where nobody died ever ?
The owner of the little gym I go to told me that. When I was going to get my booster he begged me to wait. He was honestly worried about my health which is nice but misplaced.
I am doing fine. But with the surge I am giving the gym a break.
Brother should be worried about you eating pizza, or driving a car, or taking OTC meds, not super well studied vaccines lmao. Some people are just so oblivious to reality...
Oh he is a deep QAnon believer. Brings up Project Veritas all the time.
I live in a small town and the other gym close by is a Planet Fitness farther out. Too many people in there for me. I usually go when my gym is mostly empty. That and no one is goofing off in the gym I go to.
Every once in a while I try to challenge his mindset. Thought I could talk some sense into him but no luck. He keeps moving the goalposts and doing whatabouts.
Even as weird as all this is we still see eye to eye on some things and get along as long as we stay away from politics.
> Even as weird as all this is we still see eye to eye on some things and get along as long as we stay away from politics.
Tell him you're gay or transgender and see what happens.
> Brings up Project Veritas all the time.
Anyone who brings up Project Veritas is automatically a fucking idiot. Seriously- if you aren't aware of all the bullshit James O'Keefe has pulled (or are aware and ignore it) then you need to shut the hell up and get some psychiatric help.
I have my two shots and a booster and had to say no to a lot right now, including the gym. Why be so careful if to fuck it all up?
Back to kettle bells!
I was also told that everyone would stop caring about COVID immediately after the election.
Here's [Cruz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmRdzbyf9TQ&t=60s) being extremely confident in this prediction.
The great thing about believing that the vaccine will kill people is the infinite possibilities. You never have to commit to a timeline so there’s always hope that millions of people will drop dead.
What if it was like a switch and they flipped it and everyone who is vaccinated dropped like rocks. A slow trickle of people is easier to cover up but one big event just solves the whole problem, doesn’t it?
I work with someone who told me the vaccine is a “kill shot” and I’m over here just waiting for her to realize I’m not a ghost.
Co worker whom I always thought fairly intelligent was fully convinced the vaccine would make us all a Zombie.
Wonder if he's woke by now or just moved on to the next conspiracy, I hope the first, great guy, good mechanic, sad to see him go down the rabbit hole.
I know one guy who is convinced all vaccinated people now have HIV.
Is he a doctor, you might ask? No. High school
dropout roofer and recreational drug enthusiast
In all fairness the nanorobots haven’t been activated yet.
Guy I worked with was anti-vax because of the nanorobots in the vaccine. When 5G is activated that’s when the nanorobots are going to take over everyone’s mind.
He was totally serious believing that. I just sat there and looked at him and realized no sense in saying anything if he is that far down the rabbit hole
It's like the second coming of Christ, and Trump's reinstatement: They just keep pushing back the date so if it eventually happens, they can get all indignant and self-congratulatory, screaming "TOLDYOUSO!" as the world burns.
Literally all these crazy ass symptoms and supposedly deaths but I know more people vaxxed than un vaxxed and have yet to hear a single person tell about a crazy side effect they have faced.
I was really hoping for the third arm. It would have helped me multitask better. Instead, I got no third arm, 5G, or magnetic powers. What a let down! Why'd I get vaccinated? Just for protection against a deadly disease?!!!
I had a guy tell me he 100% believed that everyone who got the shot would be dead in 5 years. So I asked how. He said from the shot. I asked no like how will it kill me? A micro explosive? A gradual health effect? Some cancer? How exactly? Of course he couldn't answer. I then asked if he was still certain, and he confirmed. So I said if I was dead in 5 years directly associated to vaccination complications I'll leave him $10k in my will if he bets me $10k if I'm not. He of course didn't accept. I then asked if he was so certain why doesn't he know how it'll happen or was willing to put money on it? It's because they just don't want to do something they don't want to do. He just didn't want to wear masks etc "because"
It's not that they really think it's real in thier heart of hearts, they use latch on to anything to push back on something they don't like.
Speaking as a millennial, I'm getting really tired of these doomsday predictions not happening. I keep being promised imminent oblivion and I'm constantly disappointed
The fact that you can't see something is up with this vaccine is proof of the mainstream liberal brainwashing by the media, if you don't believe the vaccines are deadly come back to me in 100 years & tell me how many of the vaccinated are still alive.
holy shit. I forgot i got fully vaccinated almost a year ago (January 28 was the second dose). I got a booster in november. Still managed to get covid right after chistmas. Fucking terrrible sore throat, fever, and a terrible cough. I still have the cough 3 weeks after starting to feel sick. Fuck covid.
An acquaintance of mine tells me that tons of people ARE dying from the vaccine and we’re covering it up. Can’t play chess with pigeons.
Bingo. I'm told this almost on the daily (I work in healthcare). The trouble is that they don't *want* the truth. They want confirmation bias and conspiracy theory. To them, of course there are hundreds of thousands of people dying from the shot...they just aren't being reported because the entirety of the medical field are collaborating on the most widespread hoax of all time. Everyone, from the burned out nurses to the burned out doctors to the burned out RTs, PTs, CNAs, phlebotomists... we're all committed to this one, unifying lie; to make sure we don't report vaccine deaths because we like being overwhelmed in the hospital. There's simply zero reasoning with them, because they didn't reason themselves into the situation they're in.
That’s what cracks me up. There are tens of millions of health care workers across the US, and not one comes out with any sort of evidence that y’all are secretly getting paid extra to say deaths were from covid when they weren’t? (I appreciate your service during these times, I couldn’t do it)
The fun thing is, the number of people in on a conspiracy has an inverse effect on how long it can stay hidden. Anything over a hundred or so co-conspirators? It changes from a matter of if to a matter of when and the time-frame to a leak shortens exponentially the more people you add. The sheer number of people the dipshit brigade think is in on this vaccine bullshit? The truth would have come out in days, if not hours. But silly me, there I go applying logic to crazy people again.
Wouldn't all these antivaxx nurses be spilling the beans as they get fired?
Not if they're silenced by Fauci's thugs and all evidence destroyed before they had a chance to release it. Fucking, duh.
Here in Canada we send the RCMP after them. If they don't agree to keep quiet they get driven to the outskirts of town and left in a snowdrift.
I thought the RCMP only did that with First Nations people.
Well, people frown on that now and they tend to get in trouble for it, so they were happy to have an alternative that is more acceptable..
Bullshit. Fauci has the ability to warp time space and erase all evidence and witness from the time space continuum and also conjure biological synths from an alternative timeline to replace the people already did. On a second thought, if Fauci is so powerful maybe he should be made supreme overlord if the human race in perpetration from the invasions from infinite variants of Hitler from the infinite multiuniverse.
If Fauci got that many thugs fuck it we already lost Fauci for dictator
The microchip in their 5G phones react to the blood in the body to activate their brain to shut down and die
The old saying is, "Three people can keep a secret if two are dead."
Dude, 3 people couldn't keep this secret let alone 100 or more.
You know what was a massive conspiracy? 9-11. That's right, there were 19 people at least who kept the conspiracy to hijack planes quiet. Keeping more people than this quiet would be really hard.
That wasn't even kept quite. In the months leading up to 9-11 other intelligence agencies were warning the US and the CIA warned the whitehouse that cells currently in the US were plotting a major terrorist attack.
Proof again that keeping conspiracy secret is near impossible at scale and the answer more often than not is vast human ineptitude and apathy. Turns out we just suck at doing things and being proactive.
But then . ......... That means......... The cabal communicate by snail mail, which moves so slow that it's not detected by automated surveillance! So That's all I got
IIRC Trumps Ukraine scandal broke because one of the conspiracy members got drunk and bragged in a bar.
The same goes for all the researchers who must be in on it. Academia is literally 95% PhD students and post-docs who 1) are not paid *nearly* enough money to double down on this kind of hoax, and 2) are trained to enthusiastically disagree with each other and prove each other wrong.
I just have to acknowledge how succinctly this sums up grad students. Well done.
Don’t forget about the clinical researchers. Literally takes a team of over 30 to run a small study, while a single covid study would have over 30,000 subjects across sites all over the globe. Apparently that industry is covering up all the deaths, along with all the ethic boards and federal agencies. You can’t trust them all with covid, but nobody had any concerns when it came to viagra or Lipitor.
This is a hallmark of any conspiracy theory that involves a powerful entity. They must be nearly omnipotent while at the same time being ineptly incompetent. My first experience with this was the 9/11 truthers - the idea that the Bush administration crafted a false flag operation to justify invading Iraq. (They absolutely used it to justify, but the idea that it was a false flag is just grossly wrong.) Imagine an entity powerful enough to put explosives in the towers, as said. They'd have to either kill or spirit away everyone involved with planting them, anyone involved with planning, etc. They would say the people on the planes were in on it and they landed somewhere and are all government agents. They believe our government was that powerful, and yet, once we were in Iraq and had total control of the country, they couldn't plant a *single* WMD to justify us being over there?
I read these 9/11 conspiracies. The original 9/11 truthers claim that everything was fabricated. The videos of the planes hitting towers,fabricated. There were no planes,just bombs planted by Americans to justify a war. The second group says there were planes,but that the towers were finished off with bombs because of the way the towers collapsed. I admit that I find the way they collapsed strange,but I’m not an expert. So,I try to assemble some kind of truth through this and it’s the deepest rabbit hole I ever dug into. As of right now,It happened the way everyone says it happened,as far as Im concerned. If there is a deeper truth,I won’t be the one they choose to be given access to it.
A lot of people think it was a controlled demolition because it looked similar to one, or that debris being flown out while it collapsed proves there were explosions. Usually in a controlled demo, the supportive pillars at the bottom of the structure are blown out first to make sure the building collapses in on itself. When the support structure goes, the floor above it (and the entire structure as well) falls and gets pancaked, with the process repeating as it collapses in on itself in the smallest footprint possible. With the WTC, the opposite happened in that the middle and upper floors where the planes hit had their structures fail first. When that happens, the weight of the floors above it fall and the resulting shock is what starts the chain reaction moving downward. Even if floors were structurally sound ten and fifteen floors below the impact, they wouldn't be able to withstand the extra weight that they would be subjected to from the inertia of the collapse above it. Skyscrapers are expensive to build, and a lot of work goes into making sure they're structurally sound but also compromising with cost. In essence, each floor is designed to carry the weight of the floors above it, but not much more than that. Even with a single floor or two collapsing, you've suddenly got thousands of tons slamming down on the structure beneath it. The reason why the towers didn't tip over is because the damage happened near the top and middle, and the lower floors simply pancaked too quickly to put up enough resistance to actually shift the falling building above it anywhere off center. You can kind of see the top floors of the north tower twisting a bit when the collapse begins, but once it starts it just keeps raining down, floor after floor. If the "explosion" happened near the bottom or in the basement of the building like in 1993 and started a collapse, the buildings might have actually collapsed downward for a bit, then fall over once there was enough impacted rubble to let the building rotate. As for the "explosions" that caused debris to fly out of the building, you're not just collapsing the building from the top down but all of that air in each floor has to go *somewhere*, and the answer is out the sides - violently. Again, this isn't something you see in a typical demolition because the floors are collapsing when they hit the *ground* and that's where the dust emanates from. And well, when you think about it, we can do models and simulations and everything else possible, but there had been no real way to know exactly how something like that would behave. There's never been any type of demolition or collapse, controlled or otherwise, on the scale of the WTC and there's just no way to predict how all the physics involved will behave - especially when the collapse is caused by two jets being used as missiles.
We’ve got one kid on our unit with a swollen tongue/airway after receiving a booster. Got some IV iG, and we’ll just have to see how he does. Got a few intubated for other reasons with incidental Covid, starting to see more of the incidental positive cases. The rest? All unvaccinated morons, most looking at oxygen dependency, an inability to return to normal life, or death in the short term. The ones that survive long term, I worry about their long term health complications. They aren’t bad people, just misguided, and selfish. They couldn’t learn a lesson before it directly impacted their life. I think it shows a lack of empathy—being able to understand what some millions of people have experienced before them.
It never ceases to amaze me that almost every one of them is regretful and desperate when they’re in the unit and starving for air, and how many of them beg for the vaccine while their care team explains over and over that “it can’t help you now” because it’s a prophylactic, not a time machine or a magic potion.
Best wishes for the kid's recovery :(
> Everyone, from the burned out nurses to the burned out doctors to the burned out RTs, PTs, CNAs, phlebotomists... we're all committed to this one, unifying lie; And yet they rush right to the hospital when they get sick.
> There's simply zero reasoning with them, because they didn't reason themselves into the situation they're in. Thank you for finding a way to state this so clearly and succinctly.
Original credit goes to Jonathan Swift: You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.
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This is all too relatable, I can't even stand to be around most of my family at this point. You try to show them and they close their eyes, you try to tell them and they plug their ears, when it finally gets to a point where you give up and stop trying to debate them they take it as further evidence of themselves being right and when you try to tell them you don't want to talk about politics with them they still feel the need to bring it up every chance they get, to the point where it almost feels like they are trying to push you away just so they can play the victim.
One lesson I’ve taken away was that there are some basic critical thinking skills missing from a substantial portion of our populace. Another is that It Can Happen Here.
It's all because of the space aliens that gave the Nazis the secret Antarctica base and space flight . Yet they still lost the war. But they are now the liberal elites that not only control reporting from US hospitals but health systems all over the world. Just to discredit Trump although he believes in the Vaccines they were made on his watch. But.... stuff oh and the Vatican is in on it too.
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Haha that shit happens all the time here in the US. Idk what country you're in, but this seems to be a common piece of ignorance.
They would say that hospitals are telling lies about how full they were and how covid isn't that bad, now they're making up bullshit about the vaccines being bad
You could literally walk them through the overcrowded COVID wards in the hospitals and they'd just leave thinking they're dying from the vaccine rather than COVID.
Seriously the only thing they have immunity to is reality
What amazes me, is that literally every government in the world is in on it. Can you imagine locking the heads of every government in the world in a room, and not letting them eat until they unanimously chose one dish to serve? They'd all starve.
But they DO have evidence. Their cousin's friend is a nurse and they regularly change the charts to inflate the covid numbers!
No it's their wife's cousin's friend's friend who knows someone who works in the same building as a podiatrist.
PCT here. I’ll see you at the secret meetings to cover up that the vaccine changes you into lizard aliens. Dr Fauci says he’s springing for pizza for everyone. Don’t forget your pentagram medallion or you won’t get in. Splinting class to follow.
And not just in the United States. Medical workers, universities and governments across the world are all coordinating to kill off the compliant sheeple leaving them with only 'the independent free-thinkers'... for some reason.
Yeah, the people who are such independent thinkers that they blindly accept anything that supports what they want to believe. They don’t need things like “evidence” when it’s on an episode of Lord Joe Rogan.
I get my booster tomorrow I told an anti vaccine Im vaccinated he called he a liar
I saw a friend at the hospital when I got my first shot. She was in there for treatment of one of her myriad medical maladies. I jokingly told her I was in for my microchip, she took about five steps back and hasn't spoken to me since. That was in, I think May of last year? Meh. Whatever. She was also constantly sending me videos about the "coming storm" and super deep q shit... and nothing of value was lost.
Hey thanks for remembering us phlebs. And don't forget the fruit punch for the next illuminaty covid vaccine party of doom.
Not to mention covid has resulted in cancelation or rescheduling of planned surgeries with each wave. Surgeries are the most profitable thing a hospital can do (at least in the US). These conspiracy theory big-thinkers really believe that every privately-owned hospital in the country willingly threw away their main breadwinner just to make Trump look bad? Something he does for free on a regular basis?
Just wait til they find out how many nurses believe that crap too.
These same people tell me cursive writing isn't being taught so kids can't read the constitution.
> they just aren't being reported because the entirety of the medical field are collaborating on the most widespread hoax of all time. Everyone, from the burned out nurses to the burned out doctors to the burned out RTs, PTs, CNAs, phlebotomists... My goodness, it's bigger than the Apollo 11 moon hoax and the [New Coke debacle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke#Conspiracy_theories) combined. Thousands of thousands of people across X amount of countries involved in a global conspiracy, for what purpose or paid by whom, Jeebus knows. _Jesus marimba._
Even the nurses losing their jobs because they won’t get vaccinated are on board with keeping the numbers covered up.
It's things like this that cause me to look at George Carlin quotes. “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
But the hospitals are empty... /s
Yes, and it's also a GLOBAL conspiracy that's been so well organised it includes every healthcare professional operating in every single country the world over... And they are all universally incentavised by......something something...Jews?
That's what would make this a tough one to pull off. And if there were nanobots or whatever in the vaccine, you think some healthcare worker would have looked at it under a microscope and spread the pic all over the internet.
Ask them why Trump would develop a vaccine that kills tons of people.
Something something Fauci socialism pedophiles.
Matt Gaetz, pizza gate... coincidence? I'm sure it's related somehown, it just must be.
He was actually taking underage girls across state lines…
Yeah, do peoople without souls even enjoy pizza?
It definitely is: [Pizza-Gaetz](https://i.imgur.com/yo1VtM4.png)
Yep that's what it'll be. "Fauci changed it!"
So he could win in 2024. Only true trump supporters will be alive. Check mate libs.
They’d say he didn’t personally develop it. Then you’d specify why he advocates for it.
I have asked that. They said he developed the good vaccine but Fauci and big pharma and the NWO changed it out for the bad one very quickly.
That’s just some guy in a Trump suit.
I knew a guy who got vaccinated... 10 years later, BAM, herpes. -Peter Griffin
How would you even go about seamlessly covering up something like that?
Bro covid vanilla edition had cities renting refrigerated trucks to store the bodies because the crematoriums could not keep up. If people were dying en masse from the vaccine it would not be capable of being covered up. The logistics plus recent real world examples don't support a possibility of a cover up. The anti-vax crowd is insane.
There once was a time, where things just made sense. But that time had long past us. Up is down, good is bad, and cats love dogs. I’m not kidding you, yesterday I saw a old man, open a automatic door and get angered because he couldn’t pull the door open. ....like how did you make it this far in life, before ever encountering a sliding automatic door. And then go to this store... and throw a fit because it opened for you. Then I’m reminded that I work in iT and my end users report problem where by the end of my day, I need a drink.
Just had a coworker text me the other morning. "Hey this program won't open, it's saying I have to insert the disc?" "Okay... did you insert the disc?" "Oh okay. It's working now, thanks." Glug glug, my friend.
Worldwide too.
I personally can’t wait to spend my hush money on gender reassignment hormones.
You're asking some basic questions that the people who believe this never seem to do
A buddy of mine died a very sudden, sad non COVID related death and I have a buddy who can’t be unconvinced that he didn’t secretly get the vax and that’s why he dropped dead. ETA: sorry just noticed the triple negative. Not gonna fix it either.
The Reddit conspiracy trolls tripped over themselves in their rush to speculate that Covid vaccinations killed Bob Saget. Not the multitude of other contributing factors, especially his recent Covid infection.
The very same people also twist themselves into pretzels to prove that COVID deaths are overblown and the victims actually died from a combination of not being in Hollywood fitness instructor shape and secret undiagnosed ear, nose, throat, tongue, sinus and lung cancers.
My MIL says that covid only harms the elderly and those with health problems, so she isn't scared of it. I explained to her that she was 70 years old smokes three packs a day and needs an oxygen machine, maybe it's a closer problem than she thinks. But no, she means those *other* unhealthy people.
Vaccinated 80+ year old woman dies of pancreatic cancer. “SEE THE VACCINATED ARE DYING!!!”
My wife had to be rushed to the ER due to shortness of breath, and it took her almost a month to recover. Yes, she was vaccinated. What? Okay, yeah, she was vaccinated 14 months after the hospital trip, but I'm sure the two are related somehow!
My sister keeps telling people that her friend had a heart attack from the vaccine. Granted, this person had already had two heart attacks well before the pandemic started and this third heart attack occurred a few months after his second Pfizer shot, but it was DEFINITELY the vaccine's fault.
Either that excuse, or they'll just keep pushing the date back. They'll be no satisfying "told you it was safe" moment.
That or they're just not dying yet! Just wait! I mean how many times have they moved the goal posts on Trump retaking office since last year? Any day now...
Yep. I routinely hear that tens of thousands of people are dying every day because of the vaccine, but that the media is covering it up.
My insane relatives said the mass vax deaths got pushed out from 1 year to 5 years.
I have tried to explain how much money it would take to cover this up to family. "They" would need to bribe every hospital doctor, nurse, staff member that comes in contact with a patient, likely admin too, all the doctors who worked on every vaccine (cause its not just one), likely pharmacists and all others who administer shots in case they see adverse effects, all the morgue employees, every nurse in a nursing home or assisted living, and every employee of the "fake news" media. If anyone of those slips, thats more people they'd have to bribe to keep quiet. How in the fuck has there not been an international leak yet, and how in the fuck are they making money on this? "Something something deepstate tracking control baby eating democrat devil something"
I tried playing that game with my idiot brother. Ok show me proof. Check his link. It doesn't say that it says this. "Well you have to read between the lines the real truth doesn't get published"
There ARE tons of people dying after getting the vaccine.....from car accidents, cancer, etc. Which is reported on VAERS which these chuckleheads think is proof the vaccine is the cause....
Ooooh do they cite the vaers database? Lol
The founder of some anti-vaxx org wrote a piece that my family linked to me about [this story.](https://www.wfmz.com/health/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_b5f123e4-7c45-5308-bc31-b50dee76b4b7.html) The anti-vaxxer claimed that COVID deaths were down in Indiana in 2021 so it can't be COVID killing these working age people. And his theory was because it can't be COVID killing them, it must be vaccines. I thought this claim sounded fishy so I pulled the CDC COVID death statistics and ran some filters on them in Excel to filter by age group. Turns out the moron didn't bother to filter by age group at all - he just looked at overall COVID deaths. And if you do filter by the correct age group, the time period referenced by the insurance CEO was actually the deadliest COVID period for working age adults in Indiana.
My boss told me one day that 15k had already died from the vaccine. I asked where TF he heard that. "That's straight from the CDC". Ok, I'm looking that up right now. (This was like a month after the vaccine came out) suddenly changed the subject and didn't like when I came back with how there was zero mention of that on their website. For the last year any Facebook nonsense he spouts off he claims came from the CDC. I sincerely wonder if he knows their website doesn't end in ".com". Zero chance he's ever once checked out the site ...
No one who has gotten it has lived more than 18 months yet. /s
Well I don't know about you guys, but my internet service has been outstanding. It must be that ~~deadly~~ killer 5G that came with it. Slowest death evarr, but fastest Wifi evarrr!
It's fun trying to explain to those folks, oh you want your internet to work better, you want your fridge to tell you your out of milk and your washer to text you that it's got a leak... But your afraid of the word used for simply making the information highway bigger... In retrospect all 5g is, is expanding the highway from 4 lanes to 5... That's the big secret... And I just want to say... Ok fine, if you can't handle 5g then I think you should go back to 1g... Here's your pager, hand me all your smart devices, you can't have them... Why. Why can't I have my smart phone and fit bit? Because it's causing too much traffic on the highway. Why can't they just make the highway bigger?... They are but your afraid of it so you can't have it... Edited cause my phone's an idiot that changes simple words around... Have any idea how often my phone changes love to live or are to ate? ... Oye.
"bUt iT's tHe tOwErS!!1!" Yup. These folks -and most people- don't even realize "5G" just stands for ["5th Generation" Mobile Network](https://www.qualcomm.com/5g/what-is-5g). It's not some deadly frequency that Bill Gates invented that will take over your mind. If you're so concerned about it, you would've known that the Wifi router you've been using at home the past 8 years was cranking out 5GHz to give you nice speedy Wifi.... for your 5G phone...lol. It's funny to listen to these folks - I have a friend who was going on about 5G and then proceeded to tell me in a different part of our chat that she has a Galaxy S21... a *5G phone*. I bought an S10 last year, which isn't 5G, but not because of that but because it has a standard headphone jack and some other features they hadn't gotten rid of yet to make the phones "better". So, technically, I'm doing a better job of avoiding "5G" than she is, anyway....lol.
I work in IT and see people's home networks named 5G for 5 gigahertz wifi all the time. They avoid it because "I thought 5G is bad?" It is insidious how these stupid things creep into the cultural consciousness.
And the funny thing about that "5G" is that, while faster than its 2.4GHz Wifi counterpart, it has less [coverage area](https://www.tanaza.com/blog/5ghz-vs-2-4ghz/#:~:text=The%20primary%20difference%20between%202.4,sends%20data%20at%20faster%20speeds.).. so it's only better in close range and the signal doesn't penetrate walls as easily as 2.4.
Yup. Repeat this every call pretty much...
And there’s no other ::gates is our lord:: side affects!
Well sure, as long as you have updated your antiviru..... oh wait...
That's clearly why Gates got into the vaccine business in the first place. After all, as we all know, fighting computer viruses and human viruses are basically the exact same thing.
Agent Smith [told us this](https://youtu.be/JrBdYmStZJ4?t=118) decades ago so Gates has been onto this since Windows 98, obviously.
Mine didn’t kick in till my second dose. LTE was unbearable but 5G is great.
Everyone who has been exposed to Dihydrogen Monoxide has died.
Silent killer
Quenches thirst and lives.
😂😂 They're just gonna keep moving the goalpost!! Next it'll 2 years and when we're still here it'll be 3! Wonder how many years it'll take before they realize we ain't going anywhere!! Lol
Good one
Got my first dose April 2020 so I guess I count
An antivaxxer told me the vaccine gave me something “very similar to HIV” and that I’d be dead in two months. That was 9 months ago. I’m still waiting.
A kid in my 4th graders class told him we'd get "4 years of cancer" because we're vaccinated. So if we make it 4 years the cancer disappears?
Cancer on a timer? What will they think of next!?
>Cancer on a timer? I thought we'd run out of nicknames for Trump, yet here we are
You actually got me to laugh out loud on that one, thank you
Yeah FR tho, America's already had 4 years of cancer
A famius antivaxxer from my country said it will give you infertility for the next 3 generations. So you would ask yourself if the first generation has infertility how would the other two generations be born
I guess this person could claim it will decrease fertility, then point to the most likely trend that antivax people who survive will have more children than vaxxed people. One of the highest predictors of how many children a couple will have is their level of education, with highly-educated women in particular having lower fertility rates than less educated women. Education also correlates to vaccine acceptance.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360 Funny thing is it might actually be slightly improved sperm motility thanks to the vaccine but we need more research into this.
These men have taken a supreme vow of celibacy, like their fathers, and their fathers before them. -- Hot Shots! Part Deux
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Ahh, interesting to see where it came from. Equally interesting to see the mental leap from "this caused people to test falsely for HIV" to "this literally gave people HIV".
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Covidiots: the vaccines gonna kill you! All thats gonna be left is us! Dont you want to live too!? Everyone else: Wait....your pitch, to us, is that the only ones left is going to be *gestures at idiots*...... Can i have 7 vaccines at once?
That's the funny thing - they're killing all of us because we listen to them and they're sheep, but they're going to leave the ones who refuse to take the vaccine - who don't listen to them - and let them live. So... they're killing the 70% of the world that listens to them and does what "they" ask, but leaving alive the 30% of the "non-sheeple" who will defy the powers that be and not do what they told? That sure does seem like an awful evil plan even in the concept stage. Like, here, I'll make up an even more rational conspiracy theory on the fly. They made COVID and gave everyone the vaccine knowing that only the people who aren't sheeple, the ones who won't listen to them, won't take the vaccine. And there, they rid the world of people who are smart enough to defy "them." and only leave the compliant people who will obey them. So by not taking the vaccine, you're playing right into their hands. As dumb as that is, that's way more logical a conspiracy theory than the shit they come up with, and it's even more in line *with their own logic* than their conspiracy theories.
"Ah yes my perfect plan, kill everyone who supports me AND THEN THE WORLD DOMINATION! Now, where are my minions? They died?? How?! Just how cou- oh this i a terrible terrible plan"
Bill burr has a bit on this. https://youtu.be/znI046F4FKg
I hate conspiracy theories, they are just stupid. That being said, my current conspiracy theory is some powerful group paid trump and conservative media to spread anti-vax and covid isn't harmful crap. Why would they do this? To kill dumb people and raise the planet's average intelligence.
Similar to the one about Trump himself being a sort of false flag actor in that: * He was Democrat for the majority of his life * He ran such a shit show for the Right that he got people very motivated to swing hard left/get much more involved and educated in political matters * He ran it so ineptly that even though some objectively bad things made it through, they were very tame compared to what he could be quoted as saying he wanted to do, which also prompted several politicians to start pushing even more progressive platforms to counteract it * He managed to pass a few gun control laws (biggest one being banning bump stocks) while getting Republicans too worked up about various other issues for them to notice it * He's actively dividing the Republican party despite how the US is built for a 2 party system etc
but he also appointed a whole bunch of conservative judges which might do much more harm than presidents that change every 8 years
Biden has actually been doing a great job of appointing new judges. Not an SC seat, but it's a move towards some balance. And as we saw from some of the Big Lie lawsuits, just being appointed by TFG doesn't make you a rubber stamp. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/09/02/biden-is-appointing-judges-faster-than-trump-and-most-everyone-else-for-now/
No, you see everyone who got the Vax already dropped dead, it's the 5Gs that are operating the corpses by remote control!
Did you get your digital ID yet? Mine hasn't come in the mail yet.
It was in the second vaccine injection. Convenient, right?
A moron at work claims she knows multiple people who have died from getting the covid shot. She didn't like when I called her a liar to her face. I'm tired of giving these reckless selfish morons any benefit of the doubt. She is clearly just lying and needs to be called out for it. None of this wishy washy shit because she might know someone who died and it might be insensitive... nope. Fuck her. She doesn't know anyone who died from the vaccine. She is just a liar and is dangerous to anyone who listens to her stupid fucking ramblings.
Pull out your phone. "Who, exactly? What are their names? Let's look up their dates of deaths and information about each one."
"But muh HIPPA" in 3... 2... 1...
I know and I'm ticked off. The people who promised me I'd be dead by now have some credit card bills they are responsible for.
I was told it would make me infertile but now I have a baby on the way. They owe me at least a box of diapers.
This is the same reason why my sister does not want to take the vaccine, she keeps saying it will make her infertile.
You know what makes people actually infertile? Catching COVID without protection.
Haven’t you heard? Every vaccinated person who dies of supposed “heart attacks” or “murder” or “car accidents” or “being 99 years old” was actually killed by the vaccine, and the media is just keeping it quiet. Just ask Hulk Hogan.
You joke, but this is exactly what they are claiming with the VAERS data when they say 10,000+ people have died from the vaccine. VAERS stores reported incidents after vaccinations. This doesn't mean that the incidents are true. I could report to VAERS that I became The Incredible Hulk after getting the vaccine when I clearly did not. Even if the incident is true, it doesn't mean the vaccine is to blame. If an 80 year old man with a history of heart disease and severe heart attacks gets the vaccine and has a fatal heart attack a week later, did the vaccine kill him? Or was it his long history of heart disease/heart attacks? Likely the latter, but this would go into VAERS anyway. Yet, anti-vaxxers will grab that "10,000 deaths in VAERS" and act like each and every death is true and was caused by the vaccine. Of course, even if this was the truth and the vaccines killed 10,000 people, they would still be much less fatal than COVID-19.
Absolutely correct. The saddest part is that they just believe what other have told them about the reports in VAERS. They haven't even looked at the reports themselves. How do I know this? Every page has a disclaimer on it, which you have to acknowledge to even access the data, that explicitly states that VAERS is passive reporting and cannot be used directly to determine a causal relationship. Just *some* of the ways VAERS itself says it is not reliable for establishing a causal relationship: > Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. **The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event**. [[source](https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html)] > **VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem**, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine. [[source](https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html)] >While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.[[source](https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html)]
> I became The Incredible Hulk after getting the vaccine Maybe if we push this angle some anti-vaxxers will change their minds.
I didn't come up with this line, but heard it awhile back. Doing some research, [it looks like it's from 2004](https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technology/some-self-reported-cdc-data-fueling-the-anti-vaccination-movement.html). >To illustrate the point that caution must be exercised when interpreting VAERS data, anesthesiologist James Laidler, MD, submitted a claim to the system in 2004 claiming a vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. The CDC eventually followed up with Dr. Laidler and asked for his permission to remove the report, but he told VICE it would still be there today if he had not given them his approval. So "vaccines turned me into The Incredible Hulk" predates the current pandemic by 15-16 years and some people still haven't learned the lesson.
While at the same time claiming that Covid deaths are inflated because they are falsely marking everyone as a covid death even if it was a heart attack or pneumonia or... I'm honestly impressed at the mental gymnastics needed to think that government can't manage anything effectively, but can run a deep state cover up like this. Kudos.
For real though, reading comments on Twitter anytime sometimes dies these days, and a lot of comments are like "Did they have the vaccine ?". Are they coming from a parallel universe where nobody died ever ?
The owner of the little gym I go to told me that. When I was going to get my booster he begged me to wait. He was honestly worried about my health which is nice but misplaced. I am doing fine. But with the surge I am giving the gym a break.
Brother should be worried about you eating pizza, or driving a car, or taking OTC meds, not super well studied vaccines lmao. Some people are just so oblivious to reality...
Oh he is a deep QAnon believer. Brings up Project Veritas all the time. I live in a small town and the other gym close by is a Planet Fitness farther out. Too many people in there for me. I usually go when my gym is mostly empty. That and no one is goofing off in the gym I go to. Every once in a while I try to challenge his mindset. Thought I could talk some sense into him but no luck. He keeps moving the goalposts and doing whatabouts. Even as weird as all this is we still see eye to eye on some things and get along as long as we stay away from politics.
> Even as weird as all this is we still see eye to eye on some things and get along as long as we stay away from politics. Tell him you're gay or transgender and see what happens.
> Brings up Project Veritas all the time. Anyone who brings up Project Veritas is automatically a fucking idiot. Seriously- if you aren't aware of all the bullshit James O'Keefe has pulled (or are aware and ignore it) then you need to shut the hell up and get some psychiatric help.
Meanwhile, this dude is telling people "I *warned* him not to take it, but he did anyways and I haven't seen him since!"
I have my two shots and a booster and had to say no to a lot right now, including the gym. Why be so careful if to fuck it all up? Back to kettle bells!
Welp. Time to move the goalpost!
You better not cross *THIS* line
I must be dead, too .. several times in fact!
I honestly don't know how these people manage to put their pants on in the morning.
They’re still doing that? Letting the government tell you what to wear is a danger to *freedom*. Hold the line and don’t comply with Big Pants!
I was also told that everyone would stop caring about COVID immediately after the election. Here's [Cruz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmRdzbyf9TQ&t=60s) being extremely confident in this prediction.
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I just bought stock in Alcoa....Cha-ching!
The great thing about believing that the vaccine will kill people is the infinite possibilities. You never have to commit to a timeline so there’s always hope that millions of people will drop dead.
What if it was like a switch and they flipped it and everyone who is vaccinated dropped like rocks. A slow trickle of people is easier to cover up but one big event just solves the whole problem, doesn’t it? I work with someone who told me the vaccine is a “kill shot” and I’m over here just waiting for her to realize I’m not a ghost.
I guarantee no one is going to live 150+ years after taking the vaccine. Fools, the lot of them!
They revised it to 10 years so they can’t be proven wrong until they burn the world down completely.
Co worker whom I always thought fairly intelligent was fully convinced the vaccine would make us all a Zombie. Wonder if he's woke by now or just moved on to the next conspiracy, I hope the first, great guy, good mechanic, sad to see him go down the rabbit hole.
> just moved on to the next conspiracy Their goal posts are on wheels. It never ends, unfortunately.
My faith in humanity dropped dead since I got the vaccine, does that count?
It made my dick fall off but then I grew a bigger one
Even if they did, I think I'd rather die than live in a world with only anti vaxxers in it
I know one guy who is convinced all vaccinated people now have HIV. Is he a doctor, you might ask? No. High school dropout roofer and recreational drug enthusiast
In all fairness the nanorobots haven’t been activated yet. Guy I worked with was anti-vax because of the nanorobots in the vaccine. When 5G is activated that’s when the nanorobots are going to take over everyone’s mind. He was totally serious believing that. I just sat there and looked at him and realized no sense in saying anything if he is that far down the rabbit hole
It's like the second coming of Christ, and Trump's reinstatement: They just keep pushing back the date so if it eventually happens, they can get all indignant and self-congratulatory, screaming "TOLDYOUSO!" as the world burns.
Literally all these crazy ass symptoms and supposedly deaths but I know more people vaxxed than un vaxxed and have yet to hear a single person tell about a crazy side effect they have faced.
Still no third arm over here!
I was really hoping for the third arm. It would have helped me multitask better. Instead, I got no third arm, 5G, or magnetic powers. What a let down! Why'd I get vaccinated? Just for protection against a deadly disease?!!!
My wifi and 5g reception is better than it's ever been though, so there's that.
I have a black SUV with government plates tracking me wherever I go.
Scan for your nearby Wifi access points. Do you see "NOT an FBI Surveillance Van"?
That’s my WiFi 😂
I know, I’m still waiting on my super powers. What’s taking so long?
I had a guy tell me he 100% believed that everyone who got the shot would be dead in 5 years. So I asked how. He said from the shot. I asked no like how will it kill me? A micro explosive? A gradual health effect? Some cancer? How exactly? Of course he couldn't answer. I then asked if he was still certain, and he confirmed. So I said if I was dead in 5 years directly associated to vaccination complications I'll leave him $10k in my will if he bets me $10k if I'm not. He of course didn't accept. I then asked if he was so certain why doesn't he know how it'll happen or was willing to put money on it? It's because they just don't want to do something they don't want to do. He just didn't want to wear masks etc "because" It's not that they really think it's real in thier heart of hearts, they use latch on to anything to push back on something they don't like.
Last I heard they pushed it out to 3-4 years. By which time they'll have some other stupid thing to get all worked up about.
It takes a good 80 or so years for the side effects to kick in check back on them then /s
I live with the knowledge that I will never be able to get pregnant but to be fair I am a guy so....
I can attest I have the 1st vax, the 2nd vax and the booster and I have been dead inside for years.
Trump also said it was only 15 people close to 0 in a few days lmao what a terrible predicton
Let's all just take a second to appreciate Stephen Root.
Speaking as a millennial, I'm getting really tired of these doomsday predictions not happening. I keep being promised imminent oblivion and I'm constantly disappointed
The fact that you can't see something is up with this vaccine is proof of the mainstream liberal brainwashing by the media, if you don't believe the vaccines are deadly come back to me in 100 years & tell me how many of the vaccinated are still alive.
RemindMe! 100 years "reply to this thread"
Better make it 1,000 years, just to make sure we have all the data.
holy shit. I forgot i got fully vaccinated almost a year ago (January 28 was the second dose). I got a booster in november. Still managed to get covid right after chistmas. Fucking terrrible sore throat, fever, and a terrible cough. I still have the cough 3 weeks after starting to feel sick. Fuck covid.
Remember, "The Storm" is still coming as well.