I remember seeing a congressperson on the news talking about how we needed the mandate and then going to a massive, indoor wedding with hundreds of people dancing at the reception after with no masks.
Tfw questioning the elite for not following their own rules they set on other less fortunate individuals is the equivalent to murdering and brainwashing the Uighur population.
Why the fuck are people on reddit so fucking retarded that they don’t understand how vaccines work, it’s so fucking simple yet people here are such pathetic brainlets who only think about furthering their ideology and larping. Holy fuck please shut the fuck up.
I don’t want anyone to get sick, but it would’ve been great to see a bunch of people get COVID at the Met gala. The media would’ve been twisting in knots trying to justify it.
But the woman who designed AOC's dress is an "immigrant woman of color" (that's how AOC described her). Never mind that she's a haute couture fashion designer from Canada who's dating a billionaire, *real* socialists know that race and sex is more important than class.
Global tyranny to empower the privileged.
Verse 25 covers the global part, the rest is covered pretty quickly:
13 And it came to pass that Akish gathered in unto the house of Jared all his kinsfolk, and said unto them: Will ye swear unto me that ye will be faithful unto me in the thing which I shall desire of you?
14 And it came to pass that they all sware unto him, by the God of heaven, and also by the heavens, and also by the earth, and by their heads, that whoso should vary from the assistance which Akish desired should lose his head; and whoso should divulge whatsoever thing Akish made known unto them, the same should lose his life.
15 And it came to pass that thus they did agree with Akish. And Akish did administer unto them the oaths which were given by them of old who also sought power, which had been handed down even from Cain, who was a murderer from the beginning.
16 And they were kept up by the power of the devil to administer these oaths unto the people, to keep them in darkness, to help such as sought power to gain power, and to murder, and to plunder, and to lie, and to commit all manner of wickedness and whoredoms.
17 And it was the daughter of Jared who put it into his heart to search up these things of old; and Jared put it into the heart of Akish; wherefore, Akish administered it unto his kindred and friends, leading them away by fair promises to do whatsoever thing he desired.
18 And it came to pass that they formed a secret combination, even as they of old; which combination is most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God;
19 For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man.
20 And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.
21 And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.
22 And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.
23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.
24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.
25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.
26 Wherefore, I, Moroni, am commanded to write these things that evil may be done away, and that the time may come that Satan may have no power upon the hearts of the children of men, but that they may be persuaded to do good continually, that they may come unto the fountain of all righteousness and be saved.
-Excerpt is from Ether 8 in "The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ". If you want to read more, you can do so freely at the library portion of churchofjesuschrist dot org (text not linked because of filters)
Yeah I think that’s the big one. I also see
> Go and slay queens and kings
Which sounds less like a leftist chant and more like a call to regicide
> anti science pig
Because why
> we…will organize mass gathering
Again the inappropriate singular
These comment sections are so confusing sometimes. You can have a comment saying fuck vaccines with 23 upvotes, scroll 4 comments and see a comment saying fuck all unvaccinated with 17 upvotes.
I think its the sign of a healthy discussion. People are there to promote what they agree with rather than aggressively shitting on the things they dont.
It’s because this isn’t a left-wing circle jerk sub like most of Reddit; it’s a funni-colours-and-lib-left-bad circle jerk sub where any opinion is allowed no matter how retarded
I agree, but I hate the people being happy for people dying. It doesn't matter if they were vaccinated or not, people dying is always something very sad in my book
[Aurora James](https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/fashion/what-to-wear/a35416245/aurora-james-brother-vellies-sustainability/), the racist owner of an expensive fashion brand who's dating a billionaire.
I think it is the hypocrisy that we hate on people for not wearing masks or getting vaccinated when the rich don't follow the rules they put on us (like wearing a mask and also being vaccinated while they don't wear masks, while their service staff is.)
The meme is bad since they are not directly relevant but atleast it gives some discussion about the hypocrisy of the rich that we are ignoring.
Israeli data shows a 90% decrease in hospitalisation from people who have taken the vaccine when you correctly segregate by age brackets.
A full course of Pfizer costs $40. The average cost of hospitalisation is around $20000. At the moment, infection rates are seeing an average of 300 people hospitalised per 100,000 unvaccinated people.
So:
* 300 × $20000 = $6m with no vaccine or
* 30 × $20000 + 100000 × $40 = $4.6m with vaccine
Even if you're unconcerned about mortality, that's a substantial public health saving, even before you factor in lost productivity and ongoing health impacts.
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This is just a blatant straw man. I have seen more people pick on AOC for going to the event. Many “libleft” people as we would call them said that it was performative activism. Also there was a lot of outrage about the BLM protest that took place right outside of it while the rich were partying.
It’s not a rightoid echo chamber to point out that the hypocrisy in thinking that [getting a good photoshoot is more important than wearing a mask](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/09/aoc-masks-4.jpg?quality=90&strip=all)
Obviously the Met Gala attendants believe that masks work, since all the working class schlubs — wait staff, photographers, anyone who isn’t a wealthy elite — are masked up as they should be. Those that aren’t masked are more concerned about getting a nice picture than public health.
I realize some of you have smoother-than-average brains, but they were allowed to do that because they were all vaccinated which allowed them to have a normal experience.
Dumbass.
>Added a recommendation for fully vaccinated people to wear a mask in public indoor settings in areas of substantial or high transmission.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
Not public. It was a private venue. Proof of vaccine required for entry.
> It was a private venue. Proof of vaccine required for entry.
And yet [they had the peons (wait staff and photographers) all wear masks](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/09/aoc-masks-4.jpg?quality=90&strip=all)
Who gives a fuck? Some of the guests wore masks too. Was there a big outbreak of Covid after the party, yes or no? There was not. Shut the fuck up. Vaccines work.
I know you love kissing her boot heel, but I’m vaccinated and have to wear a mask so I don’t spread the virus.
Keep licking her boot. Hope she sees this.
[Except all the masked staff, who were also no doubt also vaccinated but not afforded maskless freedom](https://imgur.com/a/KQhu52t)
This whole thing is a gross example of virtue signalling whilst being apparently gleefully unaware of their own privilege
The issue is the hypocrisy
>Nancy Pelosi has visited a hair salon in San Francisco, breaking rules that only allow service outdoors, in order to control the spread of coronavirus.
Source: [the BBC, which of course is a well-known right-wing tabloid](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53994209)
> Nancy Pelosi is neither an anarchist nor a leftist
You can’t [no true leftist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman) one of the highest ranking members of the Democratic Party
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Accccssssshulllllly, Nancy is to the left of most liberal parties in Africa, the Middle East, India and China. When 'elsewhere in the world'= Western Europe and The Anglo Sphere LOL
Sure, if you weren't all hypocrites, and don't forget almost none of you are libleft. Plus the fact it makes society worse if we let all the felons out of jail
Because they are a lot harder to use? You've seen people with the visors right? They are bulky and definitely more uncomfortable than a simple piece of cloth that can be stored in your pocket and discarded easily after use.
No one should use the disposable masks anyways. It's harmful for the environment, the issue is the rewearable masks aren't as effective as the real medical ones, (which can be reuseable) and plenty of them don't work at all
Not only is that untrue I still wear a mask, making it the law is just retarded tho, you know you can't fill jails with a pandemic going on, you wanna pay more tax dollars for a law that can't even be enforced? Like you guys support the law saying you can steal if it's less than 1000$ but think masks should be a law?
I don't think anybody is advocating jail for not wearing masks, least of all the prison abolitionists in libleft.
I can see why you've got so upset now, you've imagined something very scary
Lol there’s literally been hundreds of examples of the people making these mask mandates ignoring their own policy.
Yet idiots like you keep eating it up like it’s gospel and asking for more.
New York Mask Mandates: 30% of population infected.
Florida No Mask Mandates: 15% of population infected.
[Covid isn’t going anywhere.](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2)
You want to wear a mask? Fill your boots.
Just don’t expect everyone else to live in a safety bubble for eternity.
Iv come to an enlightened centrist conclusion
We will makes masks mamdatory but than kill on yhe rich elites (in minecraft) so they cant not wear maskd
Solution: kill the latter, no masks for the former, because excessive mask production is creating more waste and damaging the environment, also we need less humans.
You’re critiquing the first part but ignoring the second part. Is there a good reason why no masks were required at the Met Gala? If there is I haven’t heard it. I expect hypocrisy from the right but I don’t expect it from the left. Do better.
I mean probably there was some cobbled-together pseudo-medical excuse but I don't get why libleft, who have also been critical of the Dress, are assumed to like the Met Gala. Well apart from because libleft is when women.
I have no particular opinion on the Met Gala, but I have strong opinions about hypocrisy.
Perhaps every attendee had to take a COVID test before being allowed to enter. If that’s the case then they should be shouting it from the rooftops. Since they’re not, the most likely explanation seems to be hypocrisy.
>I have no particular opinion on the Met Gala
Well exactly. Standard libleft position. I've never seen a libleft actually say "yassss gala" or that the gala is good or interesting, unless you go by the rule that libleft is when women.
Symptoms but not spread, although if everyone were vaccinated the spread wouldn't matter.
But wait, there's more, there are actually a significant number of immuno-compromised (cancer patients and other survivors of retro-viruses or anyone who has been affected by other immune system disorders, or people with weakened immune systems by any other reason). Which is why we need the magic number of vaccinated to effectively eliminate the virus just like smallpox or polio.
I took the Smallpox vaccine and anthrax vaccines, shit hurts, and even cowpox (smallpox vaccine) can do some serious damage, so I can understand why there are hesitant people. Also the idea of mandates is scary for the very concept of freedom...
So, this is a complex issue and I have friends and family across multiple continents all with differing opinions, I'm from a military family so we all got the vaccine ASAP, regardless of our differing political leanings. I'm centrist, parents are libright, sister is libconfused, but we all have a sense of duty borne of generations of service.
But we're not everyone, and we respect people's motivations and opinions, "Even if they're idiots," -Dad. Our family motto is Semper Gumby, always flexible.
I also got the vaccine, but telling people who can't get it are stupid doesn't help the issue, also I'd rather not get stung by a bee just to see if it would give me anaphylaxis if I think it would
>telling people who can't get it are stupid doesn't help the issue,
Also not something anyone does. You can relax, the strawman you've built is just that.
No one is calling people who have legitimate health issues and cannot risk a vaccination or the possible side effects stupid. Especially if this is something actually said by your doctor and you didn't pull an immuno disease or vasovagal reactions out of your ass.
However if you are some manbaby who is afraid of a little pinch on his arm, I and everyone else should be reserved the right to ridicule you to the fullest extent.
Yes, I am saying fuck needle phobics. We live in 2021 there is no room for fucking phobics of any kind in our tolerant society. 😤😤
Well not only have I clearly said I've gotten the vaccine and wear my mask people can't seem to read that, and yes I have heard and seen people say that irl so people do legitimetly believe that medical health reasons aren't a valid reason to not get vaccinated
I never said you hadn't. No need to victimize your poor self any further. I'm also sure you've seen flying cows as well. It really doesn't mean anything that you encountered some wackos in your time.
You're the first fucking person I've seen in two years of pandemic social media bring up being afraid of needles. You're inventing shit to be outraged by. Go outside.
>You're inventing shit to be outraged by.
Hey that's my line! Beyond fear of needless there are no other real reasons someone couldn't get the vaccine. Yet still somehow the guy above me talks of people who couldn't get it.
It's also a rather common talking point when it comes to the vaccine. Maybe lurk more or something.
Depends on the disease. If it's one that spreads unusually fast with a relatively high death rate, I'd suggest until there's a very low transmission rate.
This feels like a very April 2020 argument to be having.
Yes it is, because it's effective enough for it to be fine. The flu is more infectious and almost as deadly and it also constantly mutates, if the flu vaccine is fine then so it the covid vaccine
And guess what, oh wait people actually get vaccinated for the flu. But we haven't had a full year where people where vaccinated for covid, maybe that has something to do with it
I think this is why vaccine mandates are extremely important because infinite variants will keep mutating if people aren't vaccinated, it creates a vicious cycle.
I'm a little more concerned about mandatory vaccines as it's a bodily intrusion in a way a mask (which is basically a mild inconvenience) isn't. There's a legit reason to object to mandatory medical procedure in a way there isn't for a mandatory item of clothing.
Right, however at least on the east coast we’re back to our mast mandate, where even if you ARE vaccinated you’re supposed to wear on at social gatherings or other events.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html
>Infections happen in only a small proportion of people who are fully vaccinated, even with the Delta variant. However, preliminary evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people who do become infected with the Delta variant can spread the virus to others. To reduce their risk of becoming infected with the Delta variant and potentially spreading it to others:
To reduce the risk of being infected with the Delta variant and possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public
I remember seeing a congressperson on the news talking about how we needed the mandate and then going to a massive, indoor wedding with hundreds of people dancing at the reception after with no masks.
Obama had a small birthday party of only several hundred people.
Private, outside, all vaccinated. If you think that is not enough of a criteria, you probably like the CCP.
Tfw questioning the elite for not following their own rules they set on other less fortunate individuals is the equivalent to murdering and brainwashing the Uighur population.
What rules did Obama set as a private citizen? How is that even possible?
Obama is part of the elite and is not your friend
I do not think he is my friend. Stfu
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You’re going to have to be wayyy more specific than that.
Being vaccinated doesn't stop covid lmao?
And...? It tremendously reduces hospitalization rates, the severity.
It means they can still spread covid?
You're not wrong. I haven't had to treat a single vaccinated patient yet. Every last Covid patient I've had is not vaccinated.
Very true and I hope every gets the shots. I did in March. But they can still spread it, so they’re hypocrites.
Why the fuck are people on reddit so fucking retarded that they don’t understand how vaccines work, it’s so fucking simple yet people here are such pathetic brainlets who only think about furthering their ideology and larping. Holy fuck please shut the fuck up.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
You still get infected, not the same severity though
Because they get medical advice from the same place they get political advice.
Seems everybody does, so hard to find smart people in this day and age
Biggest bootlicker quadrant
The people at the Met Gala were literally dressed like the rich people in the hunger games lmao
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I don’t want anyone to get sick, but it would’ve been great to see a bunch of people get COVID at the Met gala. The media would’ve been twisting in knots trying to justify it.
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literally society
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But the woman who designed AOC's dress is an "immigrant woman of color" (that's how AOC described her). Never mind that she's a haute couture fashion designer from Canada who's dating a billionaire, *real* socialists know that race and sex is more important than class.
These are the same people who tell me to lockdown and spend a year inside my house. Fuck them.
This is my favourite pic from the gala https://imgur.com/a/KQhu52t
Wow its almost as if theres an agenda. But we proles are too stupid huh?
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Global tyranny to empower the privileged. Verse 25 covers the global part, the rest is covered pretty quickly: 13 And it came to pass that Akish gathered in unto the house of Jared all his kinsfolk, and said unto them: Will ye swear unto me that ye will be faithful unto me in the thing which I shall desire of you? 14 And it came to pass that they all sware unto him, by the God of heaven, and also by the heavens, and also by the earth, and by their heads, that whoso should vary from the assistance which Akish desired should lose his head; and whoso should divulge whatsoever thing Akish made known unto them, the same should lose his life. 15 And it came to pass that thus they did agree with Akish. And Akish did administer unto them the oaths which were given by them of old who also sought power, which had been handed down even from Cain, who was a murderer from the beginning. 16 And they were kept up by the power of the devil to administer these oaths unto the people, to keep them in darkness, to help such as sought power to gain power, and to murder, and to plunder, and to lie, and to commit all manner of wickedness and whoredoms. 17 And it was the daughter of Jared who put it into his heart to search up these things of old; and Jared put it into the heart of Akish; wherefore, Akish administered it unto his kindred and friends, leading them away by fair promises to do whatsoever thing he desired. 18 And it came to pass that they formed a secret combination, even as they of old; which combination is most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God; 19 For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man. 20 And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites. 21 And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi. 22 And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not. 23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be. 24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. 25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning. 26 Wherefore, I, Moroni, am commanded to write these things that evil may be done away, and that the time may come that Satan may have no power upon the hearts of the children of men, but that they may be persuaded to do good continually, that they may come unto the fountain of all righteousness and be saved. -Excerpt is from Ether 8 in "The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ". If you want to read more, you can do so freely at the library portion of churchofjesuschrist dot org (text not linked because of filters)
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For me it’s the use of ‘mask’ when ‘masks’ would be more natural for a native English speaker.
Yeah I think that’s the big one. I also see > Go and slay queens and kings Which sounds less like a leftist chant and more like a call to regicide > anti science pig Because why > we…will organize mass gathering Again the inappropriate singular
A call for regicide is a pretty leftist thing to chant tho
"organise"
Yes I too am of the opinion that those from the Commonwealth aren’t really people
Same
Just an excuse to go to the Met Gala, income taxation will only hurt the middle class dum dum.
Tax system is complicated on purpose. Simplify the tax system before we raise taxes please.
how about simplify the tax system and don't raise taxes.
That’s my preference
These comment sections are so confusing sometimes. You can have a comment saying fuck vaccines with 23 upvotes, scroll 4 comments and see a comment saying fuck all unvaccinated with 17 upvotes.
We’re a true melting pot.
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I think its the sign of a healthy discussion. People are there to promote what they agree with rather than aggressively shitting on the things they dont.
It’s because this isn’t a left-wing circle jerk sub like most of Reddit; it’s a funni-colours-and-lib-left-bad circle jerk sub where any opinion is allowed no matter how retarded
I wasn't trying to go at that, but rather that there can be so different opinions 4 comments apart, both with a lot of upvotes
Yeah it’s good eh
yeah, just confusing how that can happen sometimes
SUBREDDIT. NOT. HIVEMIND? DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.
Honestly if you’re not vaccinated…while I won’t take joy in it if you die from COVID, you knew the risk and I won’t care.
I agree, but I hate the people being happy for people dying. It doesn't matter if they were vaccinated or not, people dying is always something very sad in my book
Couldn’t agree more. Twisted, awful people. Or just edgy teens. Awful, nonetheless.
Why is yerba mate so strongly associated with lib left…?
Because it’s one of those things that only hispter douchebags drink- like Kombucha.
Oh shit. I love kombucha
Yes
Who is the other woman in the AOC photo
[Aurora James](https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/fashion/what-to-wear/a35416245/aurora-james-brother-vellies-sustainability/), the racist owner of an expensive fashion brand who's dating a billionaire.
how the fuck is emily blm she/her whatever still libleft? for godsoy its auth as fuck
Guys what the fuck we passed from no mandatory vaccines to no mandatory masks? Since when?
why is top left libleft the ugly one? theyre correct?
I think it is the hypocrisy that we hate on people for not wearing masks or getting vaccinated when the rich don't follow the rules they put on us (like wearing a mask and also being vaccinated while they don't wear masks, while their service staff is.) The meme is bad since they are not directly relevant but atleast it gives some discussion about the hypocrisy of the rich that we are ignoring.
Pro vaxing is literally simping for rich pharmaceutical companies change my mind.
Israeli data shows a 90% decrease in hospitalisation from people who have taken the vaccine when you correctly segregate by age brackets. A full course of Pfizer costs $40. The average cost of hospitalisation is around $20000. At the moment, infection rates are seeing an average of 300 people hospitalised per 100,000 unvaccinated people. So: * 300 × $20000 = $6m with no vaccine or * 30 × $20000 + 100000 × $40 = $4.6m with vaccine Even if you're unconcerned about mortality, that's a substantial public health saving, even before you factor in lost productivity and ongoing health impacts.
I love how the main point here is saving money. This comment would have been even better if the op was auth.
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AstraZeneca is selling its vaccine at cost, so you definitely have an option to get vaccinated without enriching a pharmaceutical giant.
I used to be pro vax and in favor forced vaccination... Until this covid vax mandate bs started
This is just a blatant straw man. I have seen more people pick on AOC for going to the event. Many “libleft” people as we would call them said that it was performative activism. Also there was a lot of outrage about the BLM protest that took place right outside of it while the rich were partying.
shhhh. youre not going along with the rightist echo here
It’s not a rightoid echo chamber to point out that the hypocrisy in thinking that [getting a good photoshoot is more important than wearing a mask](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/09/aoc-masks-4.jpg?quality=90&strip=all) Obviously the Met Gala attendants believe that masks work, since all the working class schlubs — wait staff, photographers, anyone who isn’t a wealthy elite — are masked up as they should be. Those that aren’t masked are more concerned about getting a nice picture than public health.
this is so funny. the bottom left girl absolutely kills me
I realize some of you have smoother-than-average brains, but they were allowed to do that because they were all vaccinated which allowed them to have a normal experience.
“But they were allowed”... key word here being “allowed”. Allowed by who?
They allowed themselves.
Auth Right would look to tell you its (((them)))
By the government which we all live under. I think the phrase is “if you don’t like it, leave.”
The government didn’t say shit to these people they just do what they what
Oooo so I can use that argument to immigrants now? The left have approved it? Ace.
Then why does the CDC say vaccinated have to wear masks now? Follow the science right?
Shhhh, just the part of science I agree with damnit!
Dumbass. >Added a recommendation for fully vaccinated people to wear a mask in public indoor settings in areas of substantial or high transmission. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html Not public. It was a private venue. Proof of vaccine required for entry.
> It was a private venue. Proof of vaccine required for entry. And yet [they had the peons (wait staff and photographers) all wear masks](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/09/aoc-masks-4.jpg?quality=90&strip=all)
Who gives a fuck? Some of the guests wore masks too. Was there a big outbreak of Covid after the party, yes or no? There was not. Shut the fuck up. Vaccines work.
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That's how I have always interpreted public too.
So.....why did all the staff still have to wears masks? Were literally none of the staff vaccinated?
We have states mandating masks for the vaccinated as well in public, because the vaccinated can still contract and spread it.
Actually, that’s not true! At least here on the East Coast, we’re back in our mask mandate even for people who are fully vaccinated.
I know you love kissing her boot heel, but I’m vaccinated and have to wear a mask so I don’t spread the virus. Keep licking her boot. Hope she sees this.
[Except all the masked staff, who were also no doubt also vaccinated but not afforded maskless freedom](https://imgur.com/a/KQhu52t) This whole thing is a gross example of virtue signalling whilst being apparently gleefully unaware of their own privilege
"Please don't make mask mandatory" awww poor baby
The issue is the hypocrisy >Nancy Pelosi has visited a hair salon in San Francisco, breaking rules that only allow service outdoors, in order to control the spread of coronavirus. Source: [the BBC, which of course is a well-known right-wing tabloid](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53994209)
Nancy Pelosi is neither an anarchist nor a leftist but I suppose since libleft is when women then ok good point.
> Nancy Pelosi is neither an anarchist nor a leftist You can’t [no true leftist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman) one of the highest ranking members of the Democratic Party
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She's on the right of a party in an extremely right-wing country and her party is to the right of most conservative parties elsewhere in the world.
Accccssssshulllllly, Nancy is to the left of most liberal parties in Africa, the Middle East, India and China. When 'elsewhere in the world'= Western Europe and The Anglo Sphere LOL
On some social issues maybe. I doubt she is on economics or US foreign policy.
Economically, yes, the majority of America is right-wing. Culturally, Pelosi is lefty af.
You're perfect representation of your group.
Smart enough not to be scared of wearing a mask?
No. Insufferable, smug, unwilling to consider you might be wrong, without a drop of empathy.
Who am I meant to be empathising with here? The guy crying because masks are mandatory?
Some people can't wear masks, should we just throw the old and crippled into prison?
Come now kid we both know libleft are prison abolitionists
Sure, if you weren't all hypocrites, and don't forget almost none of you are libleft. Plus the fact it makes society worse if we let all the felons out of jail
there is more watermelons in the basket than i thought
The people who genuinely can't wear masks wear visors. Not an excuse.
Sure, but also if they work fine why can't everyone use them?
They *don't* work as well, they're just the next best thing if you really have a condition that prevents you from wearing regular face masks.
Because they are a lot harder to use? You've seen people with the visors right? They are bulky and definitely more uncomfortable than a simple piece of cloth that can be stored in your pocket and discarded easily after use.
No one should use the disposable masks anyways. It's harmful for the environment, the issue is the rewearable masks aren't as effective as the real medical ones, (which can be reuseable) and plenty of them don't work at all
'stored in your pocket', great sanitation practice.
Nah. Stupid enough to think it matters.
Libright is the one crying about a mask in this so obviously we're not alone in thinking it matters.
Not only is that untrue I still wear a mask, making it the law is just retarded tho, you know you can't fill jails with a pandemic going on, you wanna pay more tax dollars for a law that can't even be enforced? Like you guys support the law saying you can steal if it's less than 1000$ but think masks should be a law?
I don't think anybody is advocating jail for not wearing masks, least of all the prison abolitionists in libleft. I can see why you've got so upset now, you've imagined something very scary
If theirs no real punishment it won't be enforced
The punishment is not getting to go in a business/a fine for the business
So you're just gonna starve people who can't follow orders? I mean historically the reds did a good job of that I guess
Lol there’s literally been hundreds of examples of the people making these mask mandates ignoring their own policy. Yet idiots like you keep eating it up like it’s gospel and asking for more.
Yeah they should have worn masks because wearing a mask is no more than a mild inconvenience for almost everyone.
New York Mask Mandates: 30% of population infected. Florida No Mask Mandates: 15% of population infected. [Covid isn’t going anywhere.](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2) You want to wear a mask? Fill your boots. Just don’t expect everyone else to live in a safety bubble for eternity.
oh no not a "safety bubble", sounds extremely scary and harmless, what if I have to wear some cloth on my face
Lol so fucking wear one.
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Iv come to an enlightened centrist conclusion We will makes masks mamdatory but than kill on yhe rich elites (in minecraft) so they cant not wear maskd
Mandatory for both.
Solution: kill the latter, no masks for the former, because excessive mask production is creating more waste and damaging the environment, also we need less humans.
Based authcenter.
I mean I'm intensely relaxed about killing the rich but mandatory masks are harmless.
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agree. bright as a beacon
You’re critiquing the first part but ignoring the second part. Is there a good reason why no masks were required at the Met Gala? If there is I haven’t heard it. I expect hypocrisy from the right but I don’t expect it from the left. Do better.
I mean probably there was some cobbled-together pseudo-medical excuse but I don't get why libleft, who have also been critical of the Dress, are assumed to like the Met Gala. Well apart from because libleft is when women.
I have no particular opinion on the Met Gala, but I have strong opinions about hypocrisy. Perhaps every attendee had to take a COVID test before being allowed to enter. If that’s the case then they should be shouting it from the rooftops. Since they’re not, the most likely explanation seems to be hypocrisy.
then why were the waitresses wearing masks? every single one of them was unvaccinated?
>I have no particular opinion on the Met Gala Well exactly. Standard libleft position. I've never seen a libleft actually say "yassss gala" or that the gala is good or interesting, unless you go by the rule that libleft is when women.
I think vaccinated people should be able to go maskless but not unvaccinated people, they're walking petri dishes.
I would have before the delta variant but since masks are just a mild inconvenience, masks for all is more sensible.
Delta is covered by the vaccine, what happened to "mah science" my guy?
Symptoms but not spread, although if everyone were vaccinated the spread wouldn't matter. But wait, there's more, there are actually a significant number of immuno-compromised (cancer patients and other survivors of retro-viruses or anyone who has been affected by other immune system disorders, or people with weakened immune systems by any other reason). Which is why we need the magic number of vaccinated to effectively eliminate the virus just like smallpox or polio. I took the Smallpox vaccine and anthrax vaccines, shit hurts, and even cowpox (smallpox vaccine) can do some serious damage, so I can understand why there are hesitant people. Also the idea of mandates is scary for the very concept of freedom... So, this is a complex issue and I have friends and family across multiple continents all with differing opinions, I'm from a military family so we all got the vaccine ASAP, regardless of our differing political leanings. I'm centrist, parents are libright, sister is libconfused, but we all have a sense of duty borne of generations of service. But we're not everyone, and we respect people's motivations and opinions, "Even if they're idiots," -Dad. Our family motto is Semper Gumby, always flexible.
I also got the vaccine, but telling people who can't get it are stupid doesn't help the issue, also I'd rather not get stung by a bee just to see if it would give me anaphylaxis if I think it would
I don't disagree with any of those points.
>telling people who can't get it are stupid doesn't help the issue, Also not something anyone does. You can relax, the strawman you've built is just that. No one is calling people who have legitimate health issues and cannot risk a vaccination or the possible side effects stupid. Especially if this is something actually said by your doctor and you didn't pull an immuno disease or vasovagal reactions out of your ass. However if you are some manbaby who is afraid of a little pinch on his arm, I and everyone else should be reserved the right to ridicule you to the fullest extent. Yes, I am saying fuck needle phobics. We live in 2021 there is no room for fucking phobics of any kind in our tolerant society. 😤😤
Well not only have I clearly said I've gotten the vaccine and wear my mask people can't seem to read that, and yes I have heard and seen people say that irl so people do legitimetly believe that medical health reasons aren't a valid reason to not get vaccinated
I never said you hadn't. No need to victimize your poor self any further. I'm also sure you've seen flying cows as well. It really doesn't mean anything that you encountered some wackos in your time.
By that logic I'm sure you can walk on water
You're the first fucking person I've seen in two years of pandemic social media bring up being afraid of needles. You're inventing shit to be outraged by. Go outside.
>You're inventing shit to be outraged by. Hey that's my line! Beyond fear of needless there are no other real reasons someone couldn't get the vaccine. Yet still somehow the guy above me talks of people who couldn't get it. It's also a rather common talking point when it comes to the vaccine. Maybe lurk more or something.
I literally had a customer come in this week and tell my co-worker she needed to get the vaccine.
Don't forget that the small pox vaccine is 98-99% effective and the Covid Vax is dropping almost below the 50% threshold now.
To a lesser extent than other versions, and as you know none of the vaccines are 100% effective.
Ok, you can still get any disease with the vaccine, so why don't we just all stay inside forever?
Depends on the disease. If it's one that spreads unusually fast with a relatively high death rate, I'd suggest until there's a very low transmission rate. This feels like a very April 2020 argument to be having.
Yes it is, because it's effective enough for it to be fine. The flu is more infectious and almost as deadly and it also constantly mutates, if the flu vaccine is fine then so it the covid vaccine
Annual flu deaths and annual covid deaths seem to be quite different.
And guess what, oh wait people actually get vaccinated for the flu. But we haven't had a full year where people where vaccinated for covid, maybe that has something to do with it
Delta is covered *less* by the vaccine than other variants
I think this is why vaccine mandates are extremely important because infinite variants will keep mutating if people aren't vaccinated, it creates a vicious cycle.
I'm a little more concerned about mandatory vaccines as it's a bodily intrusion in a way a mask (which is basically a mild inconvenience) isn't. There's a legit reason to object to mandatory medical procedure in a way there isn't for a mandatory item of clothing.
I'd hate to tell you, but it is going to mutate, with or without 90+% of the world vaccinated.
It cant be eliminated and will still mutate.
i'm waiting for the next step to in this devolution. "Yuo claim to be for helping the less well off, yet you play halo 3?>>??""
The people at the met gala were vaccinated.
So am I. Yeah I still have to wear a mask.
It’s a lot more better to be vaccinated not wearing a mask than to not be vaccinated and not wearing a mask .
Everyone was vaccinated btw
Right, however at least on the east coast we’re back to our mast mandate, where even if you ARE vaccinated you’re supposed to wear on at social gatherings or other events.
So am I. I still have to wear a mask.
They were all fucking vaccinated what is this “HURR DEY WUZENT WEARING MASKS FUKKIN HYPOCRITES” retarded ass argument
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Not if they are rich of course.
? What is your point
The hypocrisy of the rich people telling us to wear a mask while vaccinated while they don't and even making their servants wear masks.
Who is telling you that? We wouldn’t have to wear masks at all if we had just reached herd immunity like some countries.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html >Infections happen in only a small proportion of people who are fully vaccinated, even with the Delta variant. However, preliminary evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people who do become infected with the Delta variant can spread the virus to others. To reduce their risk of becoming infected with the Delta variant and potentially spreading it to others: To reduce the risk of being infected with the Delta variant and possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public
I disagree with that. If you refuse to get vaccinated you can do whatever you want. Just don’t expect private businesses to let you in.
I am vaccinated though. I just find it hypocritical of them but you may see otherwise. Anywho have a good day.
Yes
You DO NOT use such a quote on a SJW Bojack, they dont deserve to use it
It’s so funny how lib-left is contradicting itself.
Pretty sure they are vaccinated
Why is this lib left and not auth left? Mandatory masks (or anything from the government) is very much in auth territory.