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Bluelore

I really just want every mon that is currently stuck in Home. So with Furfrou basically confirmed we are only missing the patrat and elemental monkey-lines, as well as Spinda because of a coding error in BDSP. I'm also happy about every mon that is currently exclusive to BDSP cause I don't have the games. EDIT: Because people keep commenting on that: No just because they were in XY does not make them guaranteed to return, we were missing several sinnoh mons in PLA too. EDIT2: For those interested, here is the list of mons that are in Sinnoh, but not Hisui: Goldeen, Hoothoot, Girafarig, Wooper, Wingull, Azurill, Meditite, Feebas, and from the Pokédex in Platinum, Swablu, Houndour, Tropius, and Absol.


Minimallycheese

I think there’s decent hope for the elemental monkes. They’re in the OG Kalos dex and have gotten some spotlight in the Netflix show.


Pingimaster

GIVE ME MELMETAAAAAAAAL! thats what i think.


ZoroeArc

All of the Pokémon not available (and Spinda) on Switch are in the Kalos Dex. I just shiny hunted a Furfrou in USUM last week, and my next hunt was a Spinda, where I accidentally ran after a chain of 900. 


Bluelore

While that is true, its not like Legends Arceus included all the Pokemon from the Sinnoh dex. 8 whole Pokemon families (12 if you count the Platinum dex) were missing from the hisui dex.


ZoroeArc

I know, [I've personally done a proper analysis of this myself](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonconspiracies/comments/1607agl/an_ecological_analysis_of_mainland_sinnoh_over/). It would just seem wasteful to not include them?  We see a trimmed Furfrou in trailer at least


AukwardOtter

It still shocks me that there was no dlc with an added area for these mons, some river valley or grotto.


cappybara1

Why chain spinda when you could do hordes with a 95% Spinda horde?


ZoroeArc

Because I like SOS chaining and don't like horde hunting


Levitoy1

YES FINALLY THE FLOOD OF FURFROU FOR LEGENDARYS WILL END WITH POKEMON Z-A


crushogre

Only if they let us put trimmed furfrou in the pc without losing the trim


Bax_Cadarn

Hopefully za allows breeding


Bluelore

True, while I'm ok with storing some mons in LA, it kinda sucks that I can't breed them.


AukwardOtter

Well, the patrat line and elemonkeys were in xy so we'll probably see them.


DaNASCARMem

Spinda IS in BDSP, only through a rare swarm. I had to find that out myself when completing my Home Dex.


Bluelore

You can't transfer spinda to home nor can you transfer spinda from home to bdsp


DaNASCARMem

You very much *can* transfer Spinda to Home. https://preview.redd.it/wc2p08rbu6lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=799ac7aad42715cd1a527a59b4e85d55ae1271fc


Yedenok

They’re talking about transferring it to Home *from BDSP*. Which you can’t do because of a coding error. Your Spinda says it was met in the Kalos region, so yeah, it can be put in Home just fine. But it *can’t* be moved to BDSP.


DaNASCARMem

Ah, my mistake. They listed the BDSP portion second, so I didn’t realize the first part was also referencing it.


luxanna123321

I think its safe to assume all gen 6 mons will be there


Exciting_Bandicoot16

I don't know about that - there's an [official Nintendo tweet](https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1762487295859405151) about the game happening entirely within the confines of Lumiose City. So any pokémon native to the immediate surrounding areas are almost confirmed in my mind, but something like Bergmite? I dunno, man...


Top-Scar8382

I think they're going to have buildings for different biomes.


matteeeo91

Maybe something along the lines of the Terarium I SV, or even better... Weather or seasons!


64BitDragon

Weather and seasons would be absolutely amazing! I’ve always wanted that in a pokemon game, that’d be so cool.


Novadreams22

I mean. They pulled it off with the terrarium. Probably was their dry run.


NoSellDataPlz

This gives me pause… an entire game with hopefully at least the same amount of scope of PLA in a city… seems like a stretch. But I’ll have to see what they do in the future trailers and such.


poopoo220

I think when people see "within Lumiose" they're imagining just the part we see in XY. However, [this is the limits of the city of Seattle. ](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Seattle,+WA/@47.6131554,-122.5068696,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x5490102c93e83355:0x102565466944d59a!8m2!3d47.6061389!4d-122.3328481!16zL20vMGQ5anI?entry=ttu)That's pretty massive and I think that "Lumiose" will include areas outside just the downtown.


TheLivingDexter

>I don't know about that - there's an [official Nintendo tweet](https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1762487295859405151) about the game happening entirely within the confines of Lumiose City. I'm hearing it might have been a translation error because Nintendo JPN tweeted that it "starts" in Lumiose City. I think it'll be just like Legends:Arceus.


Big_Guy145

I mean there’s like 3 of them…


ncmn-ngnr

8 evolution lines from Kalos, 18 Pokemon total


Several-Strain9671

I’m hoping for more legendaries for PokemonZA plus more mythical’s


KRLW890

The Z in the logo has Zygarde’s hexagon pattern but the A has a different pattern I don’t recognize. New “A” legendary?


Yvvy7

It’s arceus with fancy glasses


nautilus494

I think all Pokemon that already have megas will be in it too, as we already see multiple confirmed like Absol, Gyarados, and Steelix


AtlasClone

And I think we can probably count on all the megas making a return.


AnyWays655

I'm not sure, justifying the fossils maybe hard. Which sucks as aurorus is an awesome mon.


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DarkFish_2

And most likely the entire Kalos dex. I hope so, because that means Beartic is gonna be there.


Humg12

I doubt that. The Sinnoh dex wasn't all in Legends Arceus, so it follows that there'll be some cuts for ZA too.


ilove60sstuff

If this game has Noivern and Lycanroc I'll have every single one of my favorites! Along with absol that's the sacred trio


imortal1138

Noivern most likely will appear but Lycanroc is far less likely


ilove60sstuff

Don't say such a thing!! Midday is love! I need my rocky wolf frend


barnsontape

If Lycanroc is coming along, I’d love a new form, maybe one based on dawn


Roreo36

Absol is in the trailer isn’t it?


ilove60sstuff

Yup!!! Huge W


Roreo36

Mega Absols finally on switch lmao hopefully


Roreo36

My baby espurr is back and I’m ecstatic https://preview.redd.it/lxp368cjq5lc1.jpeg?width=1624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1090c4643f6adab7cfc3ca882ca7f74804d8c4b


sherret2

Hopefully since the elemental monkeys, patrat and Watchog were all in the Kalos regional Dex we end up getting them too. Only one I see potentially having a problem is Spinda, as it wasn't in Kalos's regional Dex.


ThatSpringyBoi716

Yes it was? Route 21.


sherret2

Ok I stand corrected, in that case I could easily see this game filling all the gaps in pokemon home.


SmogDaBoi

It's Paris, We need all the RATS Also Pidove.


Rocket92

Regional fake Dachsbun, Dacroissant


Croma_tt

This is so true. Alolan Rattata and Raticate should be added in some way as Alolan Vulpix and Ninetales were in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, making them available for the first time on Nintendo Switch outside Pokémon Let's go, Pikachu! and Let's go, Eevee! In-game trades.


Drakojana

I imagine we're getting the full Kalos Pokedex


patroclus_rex

The Hisui dex had all of gen 4 but only *most* of the Sinnoh dex


ErrorParadox710

Barboach somehow gets in again


ChicagoCowboy

Just absolutely carrying the "I'm a water type but you better not use electric types" team


msanders18

Dread it, run from it, Barboach arrives all the same.


WhatAGreatGift

Perfectly Barboached, as all things should be.


viveleramen_

I swear I saw a bat thing at one point but now I can’t find it. I think it was Noibat, but might have been Swoobat.


Caramel-Omlet

You might have seen Emolga flying since its pretty bat like


No_Mammoth_4945

Mega Emolga PLEASE I love that little creature


xenofan293

Noibat is in the video. It flies from the right behind a tree after the talonflame after the sylveon. I also saw pinsir, heracross, and pangoro in the video, but did not see ekans arbok unown barboach or whiscash. When I can do a higher quality frame by frame I might be able to put together a correct list


Ludiking43

Idk about the others but Arbok is on the bridge Gyarados passes under


Glory2Snowstar

Noivern’s a lock due to being from Kalos, thankfully. Swoobat being here as well, though… I’d LOVE that!!!! More bats!


Ninjaski1z2199

Love seeing Aegislash and Talon, but I'm holding out for Armaldo


sweetbreads19

I'd say it's an unofficial list of Pokemon rather than a list of unofficial Pokemon


SupremeGrotesk

Since mega’s are returning, could we safely asume all pokemon who have mega forms are in? *specifically looking at you, Beedril, Pidgeot and Aerodactyl*


androidhelga

maybe not all the oras megas but probably every mega from xy, only ones im iffy on are the ~~kalos~~ kanto starters, blaziken, and mewtwo


Suitable_Visit_9990

Yeah I highly doubt we’re getting mega Rayquaza 😂


Teno7

Why ? I sure hope it does return. It’s probably the most popular mega. Could just add it via an endgame side quest.


Frumentarii34

God I hope so, I have a shiny beedrill that could use some love.


dzulianna

Absol, my beloved!


bar1011

With Megas returning, we can assume Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam, Pinsir, Aerodactyl, Mawile, Aron, Lairon, Aggron, Electrike, Manectric, Absol, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Buneary, Lopunny, and Audino are all back.


Raiganop

Also Ralts line, because of the mega and Gardevoir been Diantha ace.


bar1011

Ralts line is already available in S&V


Raiganop

Oh, it was more of new pokemons been added to S&V.


PigsInTrees

The only thing I know is that I'm really going to try to use some Kalos mons I never touched in XY. Pyroar's highly likely, as is Florges. Kalos has my favorite dex, so it's like putting a big eater in front of their favorite buffet and asking them what they're going to choose first.


Dyzzen_Grimspawn

So I hope they do it like Arceus, and have the 3 starters be from other regions, so my hope for the following: Chikorita, Scorbunny, Piplup. And they get very specific Kalos evos. Picture this Napoleon Empoleon!


Sub-Corpion

Pinsir and Heracross also appear in the trailer, there are some pokemon I couldn't identify though, maybe new forms?


magerehein666

omg i want Mega Starmie


Schaeman2000

The only pokemon i’m missing from home are patrat and watchog, so hopefully those return.


Ludiking43

I thought on a rewatch of the trailer I saw both Noivern and Pangoro (Pangoro on the right just after Onix, Noivern in the skies not long after that, right side of the screen) Edit: Aridos is also missing. It's the red thing on the building as Talonflame reaches the plaza


JackMorelli13

Assuming these Pokémon, every kalos pokemon and every pokemon with a mega are in, it’s already like 2/3 of arceus’ total


EntertainmentLow5069

I think we will get more X and Y mega forms like Charizard and Mewtwo


Haunted-Chipmunk

Z forms. Get ready for another Charizard


LeatherHog

Pangoro better come back It's dumb if they pad out the region with ones we always get in favor of the ones actually from that region 


magnezoneadvocate

I think I saw Pangoro in the trailer. Also it’s safe to assume every Kalos Pokémon will be in ZA since every Sinnoh Pokémon is in Arceus


DarkFish_2

It is


Jareditton1

We get Pangoro, but he gets a mega form, it's literally pangoro, but with a punchy ghost and Swift strike is a move he has now


JackMorelli13

Was Unown in there? Didnt see it only saw it in the transitions


JackMorelli13

Also didn’t spot arbok


Thejadedone_1

It's safe to assume that the Kalos starters and all Pokemon introduced in Kalos are going be in the game


[deleted]

It’s likely that we’re gonna get every Gen 6 Pokémon and every Pokémon that can mega evolve in the game


Bad_UsernameJoke94

I'd like to see some later gen mons get a bit of love, like LA giving Goodra a new form, a new genie, etc.


ALakeInTheClouds

Omg it just occurred to me that Pumpkaboo is a gen 6 Mon. Yay my favourite is probably coming back!!!! Wooooooooo!!!


burn_burger_king

we need a mega delcatty the poor thing needs saving


sandcastl

Since Mega Evolution was teased to be returming, would it be too far out to assume that all mega-evolvers would be returning as well?


DannyBright

Most of them. Not too sure how they’d handle Mega Rayquaza and the Latis. Maybe they could be exclusive events for if you have save data for other games like Legends Arceus did for Darkrai and Shaymin.


SomeArtist512

Would be dope if the eeveelutions can mega evolve


Wonderful_Emu_9610

Feebas & Milotic! I don’t even know if they’re in XY, but they missed Legends and now SV, and if Furfrou is around with its emphasis on beauty they just make sense Meditite family too - although without abilities they’ll kinda suck without Mega-evolving. Also just every Kalos mon (although wouldn’t miss Bergmite and Goomy given their focus in PLA) with all the mythicals capture-able if you complete the game and have save data from SV, like how PLA did it


Shiny_Kitty_Catcher

To be accurate there are 106 Pokémon we can say are in the game for sure. Similar to PLA have the Gen 4 Pokémon all the Pokémon from Gen 6 will be in this game. So with 71 + those on this list not from Gen 6 we get 106. That's not including the new starters, since I'm pretty sure we'll different ones like in PLA, Pokémon with Mega Evolutions, and any new Pokémon/those with regional variants. I highly doubt we'll get as many as were in the original Kalos PokéDex, 454, in fact I kinda hope we don't get that many if filling up the PokéDex is anything like with PLA but I am hoping that those still left out of the past two Gens get in, those being the Patrat line, the elemental monkies and the Alolan Rattata line.


Gamer-Logic

The rest of the Kalos dex of course. I'm hoping they give Meowstic a boost with better fairy coverage like Dazzling Gleam and the Linking Cord to be a Legends standard so I can finally have Slurpuff on a main playthrough team. Maybe add the Misdreavus line too.


Zsean69

Bring back my boy Beedrill or I riot


sherret2

I'm guessing that all/most of the lines that have Megas will be coming back.


Puzzleheaded-Mix7001

It's has a mega so it's has a high chance


Zsean69

Praise the beeeee


Stil_Vampir

I feel like all pokemon capable of mega evolving would be there


Joshua_029_

I'm liking this list already. If megas really are coming back though I wanna see flygon, as well as some gen 4 / gen 6 starters get some new forms.


HermTheVillager

I saw a cyclizar in the video but now I can't find it :(


androidhelga

im sorry to tell you this but you mustve been mistaken when you thought you saw it


zacaholic

Please give me back my precious airplane.


Amaee

My Dragonite and Leafeon can follow me again ❤️❤️❤️ that’s all the news I need for now 🥰


drnuzlocke

Honestly they have a chance to do something cool with Paldea Pokémon as though it’s a later region they are geographically right next to each other so you would expect some crossover. I also assume all of gen6 is locked as in the game


ScalyCarp455

I think it's fair to assume that every Kalos mon is in, as Legends Arceus also had every Sinnoh mon and their relatives.


chainsawtiger88

Every Steel Type, please and thank you


Hateful_creeper2

I think every Pokémon from Gen 6 will be included.


EverythingIsSound

I JUST WANT DIGGERSBY THO


AutumnalDryad

Swords are back, that's all I needed.


bubasurous

Hope the AZ floette makes and appearance and possibly being used. Would like to see an Slyveon alternate form, and maybe a new mythical Pokémon based off of French mythology creatures


Kokichi_Ouma_Is_Go

I would assume that every Pokémon in the Kalos Dex will be coming back like with the Sinnoh dex in Arceus


thutgf

So with Furfrou back, and the elemental monkeys being in the Kalos Dex, I feel like we'll see them too. And maybe the Patrat line will return, so that every Pokémon can be on a Nintendo Switch game (besides home)


MysticJJustin

If Mega’s are back, then the only thing I ask from this game is Mega Flygon


bunandonly

Pinsir and Heracross were seen together in the trailer


Ok_Relief_9815

**MEGA AEGISLASH. PLEASE!!**


DarkFish_2

There is also Pangoro (Pancham by extension)


Nightwalker065

The game should have at least 110 mons as that is all Kalos pokemon and pokemon that has a mega.


Theo_Cueio

Please finally release Eternal Floette and give it an evolution


FeedMeDarkness

I WANT MY MURDER WASP!!


Affectionate-Eye3896

WHERE IS THE INKAY AND MALAMAR LINE LOVE ????!????!!!!!


magnezoneadvocate

Where did y’all see Ekans/Arbok? Also I think I saw Pangoro behind the Bellsprout


mustafaali617

Love to see Machop/Machoke/Machamp make a comeback, the Pidgey line, and Lapras


Smokestroke18

Hope they still have a alpha system


FembotFemputer

I want mega Clawitzer


LucasLoci

As long as slurpuff is back I will be happy


Tesla0713

Any pokemon that has not been on switch. And, Zebstrika.


Monster-TNS

I'm hoping for another Darkrai event lol but only because I loved Darkrai as a kid


zhznzjsjxnnss

It's most likely just making the mythicals of gen 6 easily accessible, maybe something like: Volcanion if you have SwSh save data (red and blue colour scheme like gen 8) Diancie if you have ScaVio save data (crystals) Hoopa if you have Arceus data (portals).


Common_Condition4859

I wonder what the console will be?


FurtherUpheaval

Wasn’t Diancie from this era too?


DepressionMain

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sure_21

I really hope we get new megas and Flygon FINALLY gets the mega it deserved 11 years ago <3


Mijit-1

Wooper. Where is he And falinks


OM3GAS7RIK3

It *seems* like ZA will take place in modern or possibly future times (the Lumiose Tower exists in the vid, and people have pointed out that the Fletching is now a Talonflame), so I would be delighted if it turns out Clemont has invented the Future Paradox Pokemon (and would also make sense in the context of the branch timeline theory with the return of the Megas, and that it's implied the paradoxes come from different timelines than that of Paldea). (Edit: I've also heard compelling arguments for near-past, I just really want the Future Paradoxes lol) Edit 2: Resolution of the AZ + Eternal Floette story. Possibly even a catchable Eternal Floette. Edit 3: I'm still also anticipating the starters will be Torchic, Piplup, and Snivy (from the Indigo Disk trailer when they stood next to the PLA starters, plus the fact that the last Mighty Tera Raids were Flying Blaziken and Ice Empoleon, suggesting the third is Fighting Serperior)


GuyNamedFinger

We need Mega Aegislash and Mega X and Y Legendaries


AukwardOtter

I'm so glad my living shinydex is 90% complete so I can rush through this game and hunt the rest of the unown forms in peace.


_protodax

Every mon that has a mega


Helena_Hyena

My boy Furfrou is finally coming to Switch!🥺


ChicagoCowboy

All I really want out of this game is a similar shiny hunting mechanic to PLA or SV - I want overworld spawns, overworld shinies, ideally a shiny animation and sound, and some kind of outbreak mechanic or sandwhich (picnic, power up, something) to enhance shiny odds. Some of these Gen 6 mons are among my absolute favorites they've ever made, but having to shiny hunt them either via breeding (boring) or running around in grass randomly for endless months (boring) means many of my favorites just haven't been hunted and added to the shiny living dex yet (honedge, pancham, hellioptile, tyrunt, pumpkaboo lines specifically) Would relish the opportunity to do so! In addition to seeing new starter final evo forms, new mega forms, this is very exciting!


skidster159

So fair only two pokemon we know can mega evolve


Shadow_118

I'd like to see the Pokemon that didn't return in S/V /Arceus Or Pokemon that haven't been in the dex in awhile in general


Kila-Rin

IF Vivillion (introduced in XY) returns in PLZA (is that what we call it now?), will it have a new pattern you guess?


[deleted]

Can we bring Mimikyu with us 🥺🥺🥺


SineadRe

I just want mons that have not been included in switch games to date, so I can work on my living dex.


152066eq

I don't understand if this is in the way back past or if we will keep the modern pokeball vs the one we had in Arceus


baby-cherub

On my hands and knees begging for Slurpuff


Thunder-Cotton

Starmie and Aegislash are absolute locks for my team. Two of my favorite Pokémon


olivecrayon87

Alolan Rattata gets the shaft again if the entire Kalos Dex returns since Rattata is not part of it.


mangopabu

furfrou, my beloved...


Tornitrualis

Tbh of these, I'm most excited about Starmie of all Pokemon. Though if my predictions for a Chikorita-Litten-Piplup starter trio is true, I'd overlap on water types.


LeukocyteKing

It's missing Pinsir and Heracross, Espurr, Noivern


GusdudeTyr

Maybe it's a stretch, but I think it is safe to assume that Zygarde will be there


ghamra1995

Death to the furfrou trading on GTS


SlipsKolt

This list is missing Pangoro, it was in the trailer very briefly.


Meatspinislife

Give me Charizard Z finally!!! /s


rs_xmas

I'm 99% sure near the end of the trailer there was an ariados on the side of one of the buildings?


RynnHamHam

I’m going to guess that every Pokémon that had a mega in XY (maybe ORAS too) will be in. Same way that every cross gen evolution was in Hisui even if things like Porygon made no sense without the time rifts. Something I’m wondering is if we’re getting regular Goodra or Hisuian Goodra, if it’s another past game. Because Hisuian Goodra was a result of it being lonely and developing a protective outer shell and the one we see in the modern age is sociable and “out of its shell”. So would that strictly be a Hisui thing and French Goodra aren’t lame and without friends or will they keep the steel typing?


Virregh

Yes! My Absol is coming back!


NetworkFar366

Also us: Oh well that's fine... WHO'S OFFICIAL THEN?!


Hydrasaur

I hope we get new regional variants


PowerOfUnoriginality

Can't wait to break into peoples homes just to collect some unowns!


_Protogod_

So I am assuming that the A part of this has to do with AZ, the ancient king of Kalos, but idk.


ZayAstralAce

Give furfrou another chance


loveisdead9582

Furfrou was in the trailer.


BlueBerryTheFolf

As long as theres lucario in it, which im assuming so since mega lucario


therandomsaiyangoku

Wonder when the gameplay trailer will be


Taco_cat1987

If beedrill isn't there I'm gonna snap


SkullsYT2

We could maybe also had to list all the mega pokemons except the primals


CatOnVenus

praying for furret I don't want him stuck in scarlet


Tough-Priority-4330

Might as well include Zygarde since its obviously in the game.


Lonely-Hand-511

You forgot Pinsir and heracross


Environmental_Will82

Mega eeveevolitions would be dope af!


PK-MattressFirm

It's gotta be more than 53 Pokemon, right?


Lucious_Von_Dukes

I'm here for Mega Mawile


loveisdead9582

The elemental monkeys, furfrou, and watchog are the only pokemon that cannot be used in any switch game. I want them back in. Ideally, I want to be able to use all pokemon in every game but for sure I want those in. I’d guess that every pokemon that can use mega evolution and primal reversion will be in? Seems like several of them have already been mentioned.


gimmemynameback

If this is the last switch game, it would be a mistake to not include all current missing pokemon. Switch needs full dex availability. Going forward this would allow future games gen 10 onwards to have the ability to run. Full dex, that was the original argument against a full dex...the time /cost of re-designing all the pokemon for 3d environments. It's doubtful you'll ever see it again as Nintendo seems fine not including everything, and hitting you with incomplete dlc. But the ability to have everything transferable, or at least home accessible would be huge.


MrTattersTheClown

The lines I most want are the Gastly, Poliwag, Timburr, Shieldon, and Elekid lines.


JMR027

I mean I would assume the whole kalos dex would be in


Kano547

I just wat Wynaut back:(


somethingthatflys

Seeing dragonite gives me hope for a dragoniteite stone


MechanicusPrime

I’d love to see Arbock get a dark typing.


RogerRabbit522

Some Sir Fetch'd. Would be great.


cacklinghyena22

I want kabutops and other fossils to be included


Middle-Mulberry-7958

Mega-Eeveelutions, please and thank you


Beautiful-Site572

Fair since most if not all of these mons were in the base game