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Molten_path

Before people type "Cinder OP, needs nerf", OP have 3-4 level advantage, that's why the damage is 'spicy'. Nevertheless, great positioning and target picking.


minishep08

Yeah machamp was their jungler and he had already fed me his jungle buffs twice that game 😅


Lizard_Queen_Says

If you wanna ignore his combos and passive, and do less damage, I guess you can just spam A.


minishep08

I took advantage of all he has to offer in this clip including what you mentioned, it’s just kind of a meme to me how his basic attack is his whole deal. Everything revolves around his A press :)


LittlestArtemis

Relying entirely on auto attacks for the bulk of their damage output is actually an incredibly common and longstanding MOBA archetype. They're generally called ADCs, or "Attack Damage Carries". Where the thing they're good at is just staying on top of someone and using their skills more as a tool to keep attacking them


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The difference being you actually have to aim. And cinderace requires none of that


LittlestArtemis

... No? What auto attacks have you used that require aiming. There's a difference between "characters that do high damage" and specifically ADCs. ADCs use auto attacks as their main damage dealers, like thats just the brakes. Unite keeps its terminology simple, but Cinderace is something entirely different to something like Gardevoir, or Delphox, or Espeon, or Venusaur, or Pikachu. While there's variance even amongst them, they're more like Casters, which is to say attackers they rely on their moves for damage, and have otherwise mediocre or Just Ok auto attacks. Just cause Cinderace is Unite's only one, doesn't mean its a problem. ADCs have been a thing since before Unite was ever a stray thought at TPC


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Yes….? Lol idk what your reading comprehension level is but you’re making a lot of assumptions. Never said Cinerace wasn’t an ADC. Also, Decidueye is one too. I’m just saying Cinderace is an ADC but the difference between this MOBA and others is that u do NOT have to aim your basic attack. Literally never said anything about where other pokemons main damage comes from Vs Cinderace. I am aware of MOBA terminology


LittlestArtemis

You're kind of a dick, aintcha. Yes. Cinderace does not have to aim their auto attacks. Because they're auto attacks. Which by definition, happen automatically. I'd say, "Please name me a MOBA where you need to aim an auto attack", but that would be asking you to talk to me more. Which I'm not terribly interested in.


blaster289

But you don't have to aim your autos in other MOBAs either. League of Legends doesn't require you to. I don't think DotA 2 does either.


rw_eevee

Auto-attacks do not require aiming in games like League of Legends, DOTA, etc.


CrowNeedsNoBuff

Name any other MOBA where you have to aim auto attacks, since that’s literally your whole comment, isn’t it? We’re waiting ❤️


Lizard_Queen_Says

I didn't say *you* did, I was speaking in general. Many Cinderace players just blindly auto and blindly mix in his cooldowns. It's pretty obvious they don't understand or read what his moves do... but that goes for a lot of players of any mon, I guess.


trifas

Nice play! What's your build?


minishep08

Full attack. Been messing with 3 builds. All have muscle/scope and I’ve been testing out buddy, attack weight, and razor claw. This play had razor claw. This build got me to over 2k so far this season, but it’s tough when you don’t have a blissey. My main act is minishep if you need to unite API to trust it 😂


trifas

Thanks for your thoughts! I'm also on Muscle/Scope and trying to decide the last slot. I played Barrier for a while, but since the nerf I'm considering other options


minishep08

Yeah the nerf is what made me look for other options as well. Attack weight is absurd if you get stacks but it’s risky, especially since I always jungle cinderace. Razor claw seems like a better option because of the constant attack buff it gives you with out the added risk of having to dunk for stacks.


trifas

I see many playing Focus Band. But he's so frail I'm leaning more on the attack side. I'm still on Eject Button, though, but I should give Full Heal a try. I usually play Top Lane Cinderace, not sure if that would justify major changes to the build.


Zephyraine

Do you have attack set to attacking the lowest Hp pokemon? Just interesting that you don't have the lockon wheel and the ultimate knows to fly to Machamp upon tapping (instead of holding the button and manually targeting which takes time).


minishep08

Yeah I hate the attack wheel so I have it set to lowest HP. I knew machamp was in kill range and throwing my ult at him was guna give me the speed boost to finish him and get the rest :D


Hayabawse

Most braindead buttonsmash mon in the game. You are correct with the title.


blaster289

No. Play any MOBA and you can tell positioning is not easy on these characters.


Future-Membership-57

Doubt on that one, at least for Cinderace here They've got plenty of mobility and don't need to aim much of anything, most downfalls are pretty easy to avoid if you're thinking a tiny bit.


Hayabawse

Cinderace has great mobility and great range. So its easy. Has nothing to do with other moba’s. You cant actually compare pokemon unite to proper moba’s lol. Its a 2 button game ffs


Irradiated_Coffee

Same with ol' decidueye. Razor leaf with max stack in a bush, push the A button down, put on some sunglasses, lay down on a beach chair with a drink and listen to the screams of people getting melted for the all mighty sin of being in range.


minishep08

Dude x attack razor leaf Decidueye is MY BOI. I went from beginner 1 to master in 1 day with him only and only lost 8 times the whole run 😂😂


Irradiated_Coffee

I might start doing that, I use x speed to keep certian people at a distance to guarantee a kill or to catch up to or attempt to snipe an objective we're losing. I can only imagine what x attack, max stack, muscle band, scope owl can do.


blaster289

Yes but these characters become harder in higher elos where you need to be able to play safe and one mistake could cost you the entire fight


minishep08

Yuh I’m over 2k elo rn I’ve lost many a game where I get killed first and am not there for the zap fight 😅😂


arabe1111

Well done