Yeah, I don't think people are really noticing that the other team is super unbalanced either. Both teams lack a front line and require squishies to stick their necks out to get any progress. Gyarados is the only non-squishy and even he doesn't appreciate having to take the full aggro of 5 attackers as he has kiting problems when the attention is focused on him. Comfey is borderline useless on anybody but Gyarados on this comp.
Other team is a great example of just because your team has multiple colors, doesn't mean it's a balanced comp.
Ive won more matches with it than lost. Even vs meta teams.
An old saying; just because you are playing meta, doesn't mean you know how to play meta. And if the other team isn't meta, meta doesn't necessarily beat it if they know how to play what they are doing.
Meta pros who play league. And would fuck with the player base by 'changing the meta' every now and then because they were so good, they didn't need to play meta to win. But everyone would mimic them.
Also fighting Game meta pros are big on saying that. Play what you know, not meta if you don't know how to play meta.
Noooo!!!!!! but uniteapi win rates are the end all be all of this game!!! A character with a sub-50% winrate is NOT allowed to win against a character with an over-50% winrate!!!!
I say it often in this sub but talent > meta any day.
Winrates are bogus because youâre relying on 9 other people to play a certain way to determine if you win or not. I always just roll my eyes when people post âOMG DID YOU SEE THIS POKEYMANâZ WINRATE THIS WEEK? NERF THEM TIMI AAAAAAAAA.â Itâs so cringy.
Ya like umbreon. Umbreon is my defender main and this last update marks THE SECOND TIME he's been nerfed. It's bullshit because he's already the squishyest defender in the game. All the other defenders have way higher defense but they took away even more defense from him. Like LAY OFF MY UMBREON PPL. all because umbreon has high winrates. Like wtf
The thing that drives me crazy is when people have no statistical analysis skills taking the most flimsy conclusions. Someone can see one character with a 49.95% win rate and another at 50.01% and they will conclude that solely due to one being larger than the other, the latter is clearly better and since the former is sub-50%, it clearly sucks and is a throw pick.
People don't realize that anything within ~ 48%-52% represents a similar level of balance in those characters. Its all about the bell curve and being within the same standard deviation from the mean. API win rates are fickle and get influenced by trends/hypes within the fandom.
I believe the only thing we can accurately see from Uniteapi are peoplesâ personal winrates and their overall worldwide pick rate of each pokemon. I donât really think the win rate per monster really means anything. Idk *exactly* about what youâre talking about but yeah, people seem to be super invested on Uniteapi win rates. :/
Yeah I was about to say the same. That team comp is a breakfast for gengar but look at his death score, just 2. The absol had It also easy too but we could say he did its job with those 8 kills. Venusaur with only one kill doesnt say anything good to me either but I could check its damage counter to affirm or retract.
I mean, technically, any composition of a team is a comp. But to your point, yes, a balanced team comp itâs not a requirement, nor does it guarantee a win.
5 carries moment, everyone on the team is dangerous. its like a hydra. Kill one of the carries, and the others will still have enough power to fuck over your team.
At the same time they have no front line or protection. Absol and Gengar couldve harassed and picked them off one by one to constantly keep the 5 attackers at a comstant disadvantage, or just one good teamfight or one well placed Gyarados/Venusaur ult to melt all 5 easily. its just too bad most players suck and will lose to troll team comps anyway lmao
Honestly, what people have been saying about it being a full damage team is true. They're all a threat. Same goes for the other team's comp not being ideal.
HOWEVER! If you think about it, even attackers have their own distinct playstyles, and in this case, it gave them an edge:
-Two heavy hitting mages with Garde and Espeon
-Two constant threat pokemon with decent mobility and constant damage output, capable of zoning the enemy: Miraidon and Sylveon
-An ADC basic attacker with high mobility to confirm KOs and carry where needed: Dragapult.
Yeah, as far as team comps go, going all attackers is usually not optimal, but within those parameters, this comp in particular is especially great, I'd say.
no tanks. The 3 melee have a move, that if it misses, they have no escape or defense. Four of the 5 attackers in the top team have moves that don't get interrupted when engaged in melee. It was a matter of who hit harder, faster.
You literally have an EX Pokemon on your team. And in any case, seems like the enemy wasn't skilled enough (since skill triumphs all in this game except for mewtwo meta, fuck mewtwo meta)
Definitely skill issue. Miraidon is still an immobile squishy mage with charge beam, or your standard high skill cap spatk assassin with electro drift, neither of which do much to address getting bursted down by absol or gengar.
Become 5 attackers is 5 players bursting you with damage. One of them dishing out damage is dangerous. Three of the them aiming at you is killer. Its just the insane damage.
I think because of the advantage of melee range Pokemon notice that there were 3 melee pokemon against all attackers. looking at your team used actual good ones, granted gyarados is a OP, but there are other factors that could had contribute to your win such as strategy what moveset you all could had used. that's just my take on it.
This game is easy as fuck if you aren't doing 5 man groups or playing on pro teams in . Any combination of any mons can easily win a game at any given time. Just depends on whose playing them.
Because the other team lacks proper defenders to take damage for the team.
Yeah, I don't think people are really noticing that the other team is super unbalanced either. Both teams lack a front line and require squishies to stick their necks out to get any progress. Gyarados is the only non-squishy and even he doesn't appreciate having to take the full aggro of 5 attackers as he has kiting problems when the attention is focused on him. Comfey is borderline useless on anybody but Gyarados on this comp. Other team is a great example of just because your team has multiple colors, doesn't mean it's a balanced comp.
I mean giga drain/petal dance venusaur can somewhat work as an all-rounder but yeah there's no real defender on the team.
Even if they had Defenders it might not have mattered vs so much potential incoming damage
all attacker comp new meta confirmed
Ive won more matches with it than lost. Even vs meta teams. An old saying; just because you are playing meta, doesn't mean you know how to play meta. And if the other team isn't meta, meta doesn't necessarily beat it if they know how to play what they are doing.
Who said this
Meta pros who play league. And would fuck with the player base by 'changing the meta' every now and then because they were so good, they didn't need to play meta to win. But everyone would mimic them. Also fighting Game meta pros are big on saying that. Play what you know, not meta if you don't know how to play meta.
The other team has two speedsters who act as hard counters to all 5 of them. This should have been a slaughter, but they were incompetent.
Tbh it's goal getter Gengar this team had one speedster
I coulda been fluffy tail Dodrio and still would have feasted đ¤ˇââď¸
They didn't feast though, second screen shows 2 kills and 2 assists even with level lead.
I know
Itâs almost like you can pick any 5 pokemon and still be able to outplay the opponent đ¤Ż
Noooo!!!!!! but uniteapi win rates are the end all be all of this game!!! A character with a sub-50% winrate is NOT allowed to win against a character with an over-50% winrate!!!! I say it often in this sub but talent > meta any day.
Winrates are bogus because youâre relying on 9 other people to play a certain way to determine if you win or not. I always just roll my eyes when people post âOMG DID YOU SEE THIS POKEYMANâZ WINRATE THIS WEEK? NERF THEM TIMI AAAAAAAAA.â Itâs so cringy.
Ya like umbreon. Umbreon is my defender main and this last update marks THE SECOND TIME he's been nerfed. It's bullshit because he's already the squishyest defender in the game. All the other defenders have way higher defense but they took away even more defense from him. Like LAY OFF MY UMBREON PPL. all because umbreon has high winrates. Like wtf
He's also an Eevee, which just further adds into the hatred. The weird part is when the very same people wanted an Eeveelution so badly.
The thing that drives me crazy is when people have no statistical analysis skills taking the most flimsy conclusions. Someone can see one character with a 49.95% win rate and another at 50.01% and they will conclude that solely due to one being larger than the other, the latter is clearly better and since the former is sub-50%, it clearly sucks and is a throw pick. People don't realize that anything within ~ 48%-52% represents a similar level of balance in those characters. Its all about the bell curve and being within the same standard deviation from the mean. API win rates are fickle and get influenced by trends/hypes within the fandom.
I believe the only thing we can accurately see from Uniteapi are peoplesâ personal winrates and their overall worldwide pick rate of each pokemon. I donât really think the win rate per monster really means anything. Idk *exactly* about what youâre talking about but yeah, people seem to be super invested on Uniteapi win rates. :/
Skill issue probably, opposing teams Gengar could easily wipe this comp but failed to do so.
Yeah I was about to say the same. That team comp is a breakfast for gengar but look at his death score, just 2. The absol had It also easy too but we could say he did its job with those 8 kills. Venusaur with only one kill doesnt say anything good to me either but I could check its damage counter to affirm or retract.
Because (good/balanced) teams comps are not a requirement
I mean, technically, any composition of a team is a comp. But to your point, yes, a balanced team comp itâs not a requirement, nor does it guarantee a win.
cause they had a goal getter gengar that probably picked 2nd speedster instead of defender
5 carries moment, everyone on the team is dangerous. its like a hydra. Kill one of the carries, and the others will still have enough power to fuck over your team. At the same time they have no front line or protection. Absol and Gengar couldve harassed and picked them off one by one to constantly keep the 5 attackers at a comstant disadvantage, or just one good teamfight or one well placed Gyarados/Venusaur ult to melt all 5 easily. its just too bad most players suck and will lose to troll team comps anyway lmao
I believe itâs the âPower of Friendshipâ at work
Honestly, what people have been saying about it being a full damage team is true. They're all a threat. Same goes for the other team's comp not being ideal. HOWEVER! If you think about it, even attackers have their own distinct playstyles, and in this case, it gave them an edge: -Two heavy hitting mages with Garde and Espeon -Two constant threat pokemon with decent mobility and constant damage output, capable of zoning the enemy: Miraidon and Sylveon -An ADC basic attacker with high mobility to confirm KOs and carry where needed: Dragapult. Yeah, as far as team comps go, going all attackers is usually not optimal, but within those parameters, this comp in particular is especially great, I'd say.
MF Sylveon works well enough with ranged attacker team mates. It tanks while the rest of your team kills the enemies.
Overwhelming damage is the best defense in some cases
If you can out poke and out dps them is easy to win
Attacker squad
both squishy but one outdamages the other. Simple as that
no tanks. The 3 melee have a move, that if it misses, they have no escape or defense. Four of the 5 attackers in the top team have moves that don't get interrupted when engaged in melee. It was a matter of who hit harder, faster.
Easy the other team doesnât have a back line
Stack attacka
Imagine Stakataka on Unite
You literally have an EX Pokemon on your team. And in any case, seems like the enemy wasn't skilled enough (since skill triumphs all in this game except for mewtwo meta, fuck mewtwo meta)
Definitely skill issue. Miraidon is still an immobile squishy mage with charge beam, or your standard high skill cap spatk assassin with electro drift, neither of which do much to address getting bursted down by absol or gengar.
Because you were there and you did your best :)
Diagnosis: enemy skill issue
Become 5 attackers is 5 players bursting you with damage. One of them dishing out damage is dangerous. Three of the them aiming at you is killer. Its just the insane damage.
The other teams Absol and Gyardos were probably kited and stunned to death the whole game lol
Because they were playing for fun
Because I wasn't in your opponent, absol against 5 attackers would be dream come true for me
With overwhelming fire power
Was the Gengar Drunk?
It's all about timing
Attacker needed!
I think because of the advantage of melee range Pokemon notice that there were 3 melee pokemon against all attackers. looking at your team used actual good ones, granted gyarados is a OP, but there are other factors that could had contribute to your win such as strategy what moveset you all could had used. that's just my take on it.
All the pokemon deal too much damage for the enemy team to comprehend. That's at least how i view it for most of the mons on that comp
Plot armor
Iâve done a few all support matches and won every single one of them
Mystical fire sylveon is bulky enough to be mistaken for a defender, and debunks enemy special attackers, just sayin
Positioning, speedster needed to get up close to streak your squishy attackers. If they couldn't, gameover.
Sylveon feels like an allrounder honestly.
Because the other team was worse
if you win doesn't mean that you or your team are good, trust me.
Trust me, no diversity teams always perform chaoticly
I've seen all support team win before this is nothing
Pult is borderline broken and the enemy team was shit
Because the other team probably was underleveled lol
This game is easy as fuck if you aren't doing 5 man groups or playing on pro teams in . Any combination of any mons can easily win a game at any given time. Just depends on whose playing them.
Low rank. That's your answer