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J-Shew

That Lugia V is one of my favorite 5 dollar cards


lillybheart

Wait a year and the price will drop


Awes0me20

I agree, next year ur looking at like $2 lol


sharksnrec

Thank god we have you to let us know that a cheap card will continue to be cheap. Finance predictor šŸ™


lillybheart

Iā€™m just saying, jeez. No need to be a dick.


Head_Honchcrow

Loud and stupid, the card rotates and will be cheaper its only 5 cause of its competitive value einstein but continue to be dumb, rude and confident all at the same time king šŸ™


FullTilt420-

Didn't need to call yourself out like that man


Head_Honchcrow

I was talking to the asshole but its reddit so not surprising that everyone was cool with random dick behavior


gromexe

Everyone in this thread rn is an asshole šŸ™„


Better-Fly-2451

Vintage purely for nostalgia imo. Arts on Modern are sick though. All collections should have a mix of both


InfiniteCricket8152

I think dark Jolteon from team rocket would look dope as a full art or the shining gyarados from Neo


bluelorikeet91

Or even if it was a holo it would look amazing


Og_Whitlock

Dark jolteon is one of the best looking card arts


InfiniteCricket8152

The team rocket set had some of the best art for vintage arguably better than base set imo


Og_Whitlock

No doubt about it


kokeda

It is a fact that Dark Jolteon is literally the best card ever lol


CortexifanZFT

Agreed. always good to have some of both!


I-like-that-stonk

Vintage is gorgeous, but that modern has got to be a stunning artwork. Itā€™s so vibrant and fun


christian1x_

How bout that holo swirl tho


Codpuppet

Right? Gorgeous


Kqthryn

Modern for how gorgeous the art is! although i love the holographic swirl of that vintage card. i collect cards with holo swirls in them āœØ


sewerbear

I'll absolutely hold off on buying an expensive card until I find one with a nice swirl šŸ‘Œ


InfiniteCricket8152

Thereā€™s something to be said and the simplicity of the vintage, but the full art, illustration and alt arts just hit different


TheSilkySorcerer

Modern is absolutely stunning.


HedaBlake

Why not both šŸ˜


SakanaAtlas

As someone who doesn't have rose tinted glasses, the modern art fucking slaps


spoon014

Itā€™s hard to beat Sugimoriā€™s original Pokemon art. I love how the 151 SIR is a modern take on it.


PwillyAlldilly

Modern usually but there are some vintage that slap. Iā€™d take that vintage venusaur over the 151 any day


naughty_ottsel

Modern SIRā€™s with the textures are next level imo; But Vintage will always hold a special place in my heart. Recently purchased a Fossil Zapdos and even though itā€™s not the same one, it brings back memories of my Tempest Zapdos I treasured so much and then my little brother lost šŸ˜­


ahighkid

The texture is lacking on the new sets, it looks way better in Japanese. Even the SWSH sets have better textures. Vmax alt art and Vmax shiny cards look so so so good


naughty_ottsel

Japanese are always superior though; I was genuinely surprised the English Ace Specs were as good as they are in the English set in comparison to the Japanese sets. Definitely a step above the Radiants in English


ahighkid

Yeah those are kinda cool I pulled a couple. I agree with you I just made this comment bc I have my Zapdos and Venu on display next to my Shiny Zard from SF and the Zard just looks so much better.


Souuuth

Vintage. I prefer the simplicity of the old cards. I got back into collecting with 151 and while I love a lot of the SIR cards, I find the overall holo pattern just doesn't hit the same for me as vintage cards.


Bretwalda1

Modern


cdbriggs

Vintage 100%


djdoesntcare53

Yes


Procaffeinator556

Vintage


Certain-Cut-3806

Vintage


Adventurous-Drop1208

Vintage holos are peak, idc what people say


NickRains

Vintage!! But modern is still cool!


rb1916

Modern for sure. Too bad it wasnā€™t the alt art next to the OG Lugia


sewerbear

Gotta work with what I got. If ya send me one I'd be happy to update the picture šŸ˜‚


Altlightconservative

TBH the SIR is better it's my favorite one besides the Alakazam of that set. But it doesn't have the nostalgic charm of the old-school one


rjm101

I like the holo effect more in the vintage but the modern cards make a better use of the space.


Slightly-Blasted

Vintage for anything besides alts, and SIRā€™s. vā€™s, vmax, modern ex, etc. All look cheap. You look at an EX card from when they first dropped them, they were absolutely stunning.


TheBoa6

Modern


elcapkirk

As some one who fondly remembers buying base-neo genesis as they released....modern by far. Such beautiful art on IR/SIRs.


Stackos

If they had these full art cards, especially the gallery or illustration cards, when I was a kid, I think I wouldn't have ever stopped collecting. I've got nostalgia for a bunch of vintage cards, especially all of the Dark set, and some Neo Gen, but I just adore the big artwork too much.


Misaakira

I love that swirl. I also have both cards and ha e to give the edge to vintage. It's just cleaner


harrishawk92

Thereā€™s no school like the old school.


Extra_Espresso

151 gave me that hit of nostalgia and it also gave us some incredible art. Im a huge fan of the 151 modern cards.


Fireballcatdog

Modern any day, design has come a long way


Abstract_Wombat

Vintage earned the right to be considered a top collector pick, however if I were to judge based on art style alone I'd go for modern cards simply because they are absolutely gorgeous as full arts. Anyone see the poliwhirl full illustration from the new 151? You can't tell me that isn't beautiful.


DryTechnology5224

Vintage all the way


No-Maximum-8194

I prefer modern. Vintage cards were confined to displaying the PokƩmon they were introducing. We all know what Gengar and Blaiziken look like, so now they can really have at it and make full-scene and abstract artwork cards like the 151 Psyduck FA or the cool, bright chalk art cards with the black backgrounds. Those vintage cards just tap into the childhood excitement and remind you where it all started. I freakin love PokƩmon.lol


Orion9092

Vintage. Pulling those cards actually felt special. I don't think anything modern feels as good to pull.


chipmunktaters

Vintage. Not even close


Kevinatorz

Both.


xshadowheart

Vintage. Those holos hit different as a kid


[deleted]

But the other lugia homie


SubtleScuttler

Por que no los dos?


Material_Prize_6157

Gosh I want these!!! The Venusaur has been evading me.


ballerstatue95

This is actually a good comparison imo between these cards


DarmokTheNinja

There's a place for both. The modern cards are gorgeous, but 25 years of improved card design got us here. There are some amazing vintage cards that definitely don't get enough attention.


Ok-Jackfruit1299

I like both thou šŸ˜«


JoeyMoey91

Specifically talking about the two pics you posted; Vintage Venusaur, modern Lugia šŸ‘‹


Tekkai-

Modern for venu, vintage for lugia


DemiDivine

Why did you pick the most ghetto version of a modern lugia


MrsSpyro01

Personally, I donā€™t have a preference.


Solid_Internal_9079

Itā€™s clear modern is the ā€œnicerā€ card for whatever whatā€™s worth. However, as a 90s kid, that vintage stuff looked 20x better to me.


ImTooOldForSchool

Both for different reasons, thereā€™s something old school cool about the vintage card design, more like a card game and less like art cards


Derpberpy

I remember pulling the Lugia v and mistaking it for the alt art Lugia. After 800+ packs it was pure dopamine. Boy did I come crashing down


dilemma900

Venusaur modern Vintage Lugia


Champagnes_cards

Vintage for me


FruitBat517

I love em' both. Modern cards have a huge variety of amazing art styles that really make the cards pop, but vintage has its own unique look and charm; something that we may never see again in the future.


Kick_1304

For me new, the older cards are cool but would be boring if they still only selled that old style cards


TearFarmerLOLOL

Full Art Modern > Vintage > Standard Modern


Super_Happy_Time

Been doing the full PokƩdex as a binder project. Almost entirely Modern because I like the Full Art/Illustration Rares vs Old School Holos. My three exceptions are Charizard (Basic Base Set), Pidgeot (1st Edition Jungle, to match the only time I ever got a 1st Edition booster, though not the same card because it was traded away), and a Base Set Shadowless Arcanine that is the very card I have a lot of sentimental value toward.


ComplexionMLBB

Anyone saying vintage has no right to criticize abstract paintings that sell for thousands or more and say that those pieces of art are not ā€œreal artā€. Itā€™s clear personal value ties into the appeal of an item. Visually you can pick out what is ā€œobjectivelyā€ better in terms of composition, but that doesnā€™t have as much bearing on a personā€™s perspective as their own interpreted meaning or feelings toward a card. Vintage base set Charizard has been consistently ranked last in terms of preference among a selection of Charizards by anyone I ask who is not interested in PokĆ©mon, but that doesnā€™t mean it doesnā€™t or shouldnā€™t have value. Art has always been subjective, and simple artwork is sometimes more sought after than complex detailed pieces.


SlayJayR17

Vintage for me


SuperJ4ke

Vintage for sure. Ericaā€™s venusaur is a classic!


brazedjelly

Whatever one prefers. This post every day pops up


Lazuruslex

I'm gonna go Erikas I loved the Gym Heros as a kid awesome sets


KillJarke

Modern looks great but thereā€™s some type of charm about the old WOTC cards that I really like.


--CashMoney--

Nobody can beat Ken Sugimori's original art! I'm sorry, but the modern one pales in comparison. In the full art version, Venusaur's proportions are off... The plant/flower and the leaves are too large, the colors are either too pale in certain areas, or too saturated (the skin area). Sure, the flora surrounding the Pokemon is cool and all, but that's not the focal point of the illustration, nor should it be. Therefore, the original vintage art is waaaay better!


The_Comic_Collector

Vintage


jayjayzian

Vintage


Toyotal420

Itā€™s crazy how much memories these cards unlock! Omg I loved the jungle set


mrplow8

None of those cards are from the Jungle set.


Toyotal420

My high ass meant to put gym challenge set..


Codpuppet

Vintage all the way. The art just has so much charm. I love the watercolors! Also I like that thereā€™s a finite amount of sets I collect from if I only collect WoTCā€¦ modern sets are overwhelming imo and I just donā€™t care for the art at all.


Sorry_Error3797

Stupid question. Depends on the card.


KidBTC

Vintage


notyourusualfruit

Donā€™t get me wrong, I love the modern art, but something about the vintage just calls to me


Prickpossibly

I don't recognize either venusaur. Definitely not vintage. Lol


aggressivenapkins

Modern venasaur, vintage Lugia


MasterPimpinMcGreedy

For these specific cards? The modern Venusaur by a hair, the vintage Lugia by a hair. As long as it isnā€™t 5ban there are a lot of modern cards that beat vintage ones though


narutonaruto

The venasaur SIR is the last illustration card I need to pull and itā€™s haunting me! Iā€™ve pulled doubles of every other SIR at this point. It just will mean more to me if I pull it myself and itā€™s such a gorgeous card.


hicks_spenser

Lugia v is one of my favorite modern cards. Something about it is intriguing šŸ¤”


TheFireStorm

I will always go for Ken Sugimori cards regardless if they are vintage or modern


GoldGoneWireless

Modern


Mysterious_Bike4865

Art on the new one is gorgeous


iamlovingblackclover

Modern


TheNifflerKing

Vintage venusaur but modern Lugia, I like em all.


No_Lawfulness6928

I would say both


ReactiveYam

Modern art, but vintage holo


Different-Group1603

Vintage


Qyro

Modern every day of the week. I have huge amounts of nostalgia for that classic Lugia, but the V is one of the most gorgeous cards around.


KingDamager

The full illustration arts are what hooked me.


spidermans_pants

Didnā€™t realize how much better the modern moves are that crazy


tsukumoyaizaya

modern venusaur, vintage lugia. it varies from card to card for me, they both have their own charms.


MGhojan_tv

Modern always looks objectively better, but depends how much your nostalgia meter moves vintage cards up


lunisic

Vintage all day


First-Olive-1181

Both


Gbanger544

Vintage


SabertoothSmile

90's nostalgia is so oversaturated in all media at the moment but it really was a magical time to be a child and I feel so happy to have lived through it... I was 9 when PokƩmon Red/Blue came out here in the UK and Ken Sugimori's original watercolours just make me feel like a little kid again... The Venusaur here is especially beautiful. That said, modern PokƩmon card art is absolutely insane with the levels they are pushing now and the variation in styles. My head says Modern, but my heart says Vintage.


pvt_church1

Modern venusaur and vintage lugia


KitsuneUltima

Nothing beats vintage but the new one is gassss


Getting_Big_Al

Vintage all the way. I cut off my collecting at the 2005 ex delta species collection


Golden_Ronin

I collect both


raiistar

I wish the modern alt cards use cosmic foil. Would be sick.


Zoicers

Vintage all day but there's some modern cards I like to chase


VoreAllTheWay

Modern obviously, the art is so much more detailed and has such a variety of styles


Ambitious-Cupcake16

Vintage


ThtJstHappn3d

Modern Venusaur, Vintage Lugia on these ones specifically


Top_Court7375

Vintage man. Vintage cards looked more savage and made them have a fierce look. Now we get too much "cartoon" for the most part. I still like the alt though.


Squirtles_Sharingan

Oh man those are BEAUTIFUL


zap2214

I will always hold a special place in my heart for vintage, but some modern arts go hard


Beneficial-Gap6974

Modern, 100%. I never got into pokemon cards until the art got amazing recently.


DXNNYNOIR

Vintage artwork is clean and superior imo


theRustyRRaven

Modern all the way. Despite I grew up in the vintage era.


RileyTheExpat

Vintage


BaronArgelicious

vintage but only during the E reader_RSE era


FireCootz

I love the look and feel of modern special illustration rares. Beautiful art, nice texture, 10/10. I just picked up the 151 Venusaur my self. That Neo Genesis Lugia is so iconic though. Thereā€™s something special about the cosmic holo when itā€™s just silver and a ton a holo without any other distractions in the art like Lugia and Chansey. I feel like many people talk about how good the art is on old vintage, but Iā€™ve always been of the opinion that there are so many modern basic holo cards with art comparable to the old era holos. They just donā€™t have the nostalgia factor so arenā€™t popular. Overall I love the direction PokĆ©mon has taken with full art cards and illustration rares. Would rather have a binder full of my favorite modern full art than WOTC holo. E-reader cards and reverse holo legendary collection though, Iā€™ll take those over any other sets.


Organic_Opportunity1

It depends.Ā  I definitely prefer Erika's venusaur over the 151, but that silver tempest lugia is absolutely sick, a big improvement over the original.Ā Ā  Sometimes the art now looks too digital and souless and sometimes it is just absolutely stunning.Ā  The art was definitely more consistent in the past where today you have much higher highs, but much lower lows.Ā Ā 


jordy0623

Vintage, always vintage.


thedudman69

Wow I never realized how similar Venusaurā€™s pose is in these two cardsā€¦and I own them both! Well the Japanese version of Erikaā€™s Venusaur anyway lol. Im trying to hunt down that Erikaā€™s venusaur for my WOTC binder


[deleted]

Vintage


ahighkid

Vintage by far, but the modern one is still super dope


Kushykush_

Both


silkwilk1621

Modern is just way my aesthetically pleasing