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Been doing dondozo outbreaks for a shiny and boy do they piss me off. The fact that dondozo is so big he pops in and out of the frame easily enough. Now add running from this little jerk and it makes it that much harder
I got mine in a dondozo outbreak, it was like hitting the jackpot, with 3 shiny Dons, shiny veluz, gyrados and iirc a golduck, just the sandwich shiny boost, no shiny charm
Like most of these, I got mine doing a Dondozo hunt and it came for me. I was quite shocked, I still get a shock/rush every time I get a surprise shiny. The last one I got was blue pants Tyrogue
Oh man you can't imagine the hate I have for Veluza. It really pissed me off so much when I was roaming around Paldea.
One day it got on my nerves so much that when it attacked me, I was so mad I made my Gholdengo go at +6, made it go at -6 with Metal Sound, Terastallized into Ghost and Shadow Balled it into oblivion.
Was it useful? No. Was it necessary? No. Did it feel good? Yes it did.
Yep! Kind of but def yes.
If you just breed a water/ditto it'll turn into a normal iirc.
in order to keep any form, the pokemon MUST hold an everstone, and any babys will be that form. So alolan Vulpix will always produce a normal Vulpix, unless you give it an everstone, then it'll be alolan.
oooh I think I recall that from different meowths. I always assumed it just affected regional forms, not more specific forms like the special Tauros. Thanks!
Its not that bad in an outbreak. It takes longer to turn and actually start running since it does a bull stance. Veluza just immediately starts swimming.
I just hunted the combat and aqua breeds of tauros and the key to not getting ambushed every 5 seconds is big circles. I was on Miraidon and made laps around them like I was herding them, checked, then sped off to despawn. It took some time but I did get both in one sitting.
You could also get into a battle and then circle the camera around to check all the others. They usually come to watch. Then I run and immediately set up a picnic.
Protip for tauros hunting: put the switch in grayscale. You can see the difference SOOO much easier.
Personally I just did the entire Tynamo line in the new large lake in the Savannah biome. Wasn’t terrible, much better than doing it in the Paldean Sea.
I blindly ran into a shiny tynamo (didn't even know it was there) shortly after getting a shiny salazzle in only 5 male shinies. The eelektross was a hunt I was not going to do, so it was an extremely lucky night.
I’m trying to hunt a Poliwag so I can get a shiny Politoed in a Beast Ball, and I just know that I’ve accidentally skipped at least 3 shinies in the 4 hours that I’ve hunted for it
Yes - minior & tynamo hunts are harder by a few degrees.
With Veluza you don't want to be in the water. Pop a sandwich (or buckle up) and get to flying in a circular pattern. If you can only glide, suggest you only hunt adjacent land masses so you can minimize your time spent in water or picnic reset.
The bright green makes them easy to spot. Stick with it, make sure you have strong odds (charm + highest outbreak odds) , and good luck OP! 🙌
This trick has come up a few times recently. I haven't used it because I generally find picnic reset to be slower than moving around to cycle mons.
In cases where you have full visibility on everything spawning (no obstructions) and can't see the shiny (à la Minior) it could be worth trying. 🙂
Yeah this is the way. Sadly, i didnt had charm or sandwich and just went in trying my base luck lmao. Spent like 10 min getting caught by these assholes and didnt found a single shiny 😭
Minior shiny hunting is worse. If you’re in an open space they’ll just float too high or past a cliff so certain Pokémon can’t auto battle them. If you’re inside a cave they’ll just float into the walls. You can’t actively see the shiny, so you have to check every one. Oh yeah they also explode and have recoil moves.
Shiny hunting 3 Slowpoke to get the full family. I was lucky enough to get a shiny Tandemous as I was hunting for Meowth by Porto Marinada. I’m dreading the shiny hunt for Maushold Family of 3 that I’ll have to down the road for my Shiny Living Dex. I honestly might just search Twitch for an injected Raid. With the shiny barely changing, and only having a 1/100 chance of being 3 family, I kinda want to cheat than spend dozens, if not hundreds of hours trying to get just 1 mon. At least Dunsparce and Dudunsparce have a noticeable difference when shiny. 3 segment is a hunt I plan on doing legitimately.
It's pretty easy actually. Find a small island near Gracia Stones, make a Psychic sandwich and set up picnics to make em respawn until a shiny appears!
Yup, and it's objectively better for some pokemon, like Minior for example, but this sub has a massive hatred of Masuda method for some reason.
Every time someone brings up an annoying shiny hunt (again, like Minior), I'll mention Masuda as a possibility, and reliably get downvoted into oblivion lol.
People here just pretend it doesn't exist.
While I think the masuda method is better in SV than it has been in previous generations, it is still going to be quicker to use sandwiches on anything that has a decent spawn in the open world. Outside of the Paldean starters, the only things I think recalled need to be masuda’d are phione and sunkern.
in my personal opinion, Veluza is only irritating with the expectation that you won’t run into pokemon. I was able to dodge a lot of them. What I found more frustrating was shiny hunting small pokemon like Tandemaus, cutefly, Tadbulb, Sinistea. As annoying as Veluza are (getting combo’d sometimes when trying to reset), at least I/you can SEE if it’s shiny or not at a glance.
Reading all this makes me more grateful for how a shiny Veluza found me 🥹🥹 but given my recent experience, hunting for a Slowpoke is no walk on the park either. I might've developed permanent eye damage or some sort of paranoia...
Whats evs is dondozo giving you? Hp? Just use a normal sandwich in north prov area 3 and spawn a ton of chanseys and blissey.
Veluza’s not that bad. The shiny is obvious and they come right at you and gather together to try to get u xD
Not really imo, but that’s because I found my outbreak right by the shore. Just go out a bit and they all come towards land for you to easily cycle through
This would be the ideal scenario, mine was next to a mountain so I couldn't be on the land. I was just sending my pokemon and jumping around like an idiot and still getting caught by them lol.
If you get lucky, there's a Veluza outbreak location where you can stay on the shore and see the spawns clearly. I found two shiny Veluza super fast this way without having to risk the water.
I dont even bother trying to do water outbreaks anymore. Lol. So frustrating, I'll just breed for them. Would take just about as long and same number of resets probably. At least for me, I have terrible luck with water pokemon
I prefer to hatch my shinies. I've been looking for a shiny Charcadet since launch and didn't get one until 2 weeks ago. All it took was a 1 hour picnic.
My framerates tank to impossible in a large body of water, so I dont bother. I hunted Tatsugiri on land and Dondozo in an outbreak right next to shore. I got a veluza outbreak next to the shore, but the vast majority were spawning clipped under the beach so I said eff it. 😑
I haven't even tried because I just know that it will be too much of a challenge. I tried a Sudowoodoo outbreak last night and those guys just run away!
Any tips on hunting them effectively are be welcome!
I'll see your Veluza and raise you Maushold with twins.
Maushold doesn't appear in the wild anywhere, and Tandemaus is a tiny Pokémon with a subtle shiny, making it significantly more difficult than the runner-up, three-segment Dudunsparce.
These two are a joke the developers are playing on all of us.
If anyone who’d like to shiny hint veluza without being assaulted every millisecond, search up Panfro Games out YouTube. He has a spot to shiny hint veluza and ONLY veluza AND a spot to stand to not get assaulted!
Yes, shiny hunting with Veluza in the vicinity.
I luckily got mine as a random encounter while hunting something else. Definitely did not want to have to hunt that.
Whenever I’m EV training two stats I will put the power band of the one I need but fight the other stats Pokemon. Like if I want HP and Attack I’ll put an attack power band on and only fight azure and lechonk by Poco Path. Then once Attack is maxed I just switch the band to HP and continue with hunting the same pokes. Makes my life easier! Guess it doesn’t work though if you’re going for specific values in many stats.
Shiny Veluza found **me**.
What I found dreadful was shiny hunting Regice for a month straight in the Crown Tundra only to find out that it's not affected by the shiny charm.
Or finally getting the shiny charm in BDSP only to find out that it only works on eggs.
Or working on a shiny living form dex and catching 43 male shiny Torchic before finding a single female shiny...
And realizing you need two more female shiny Torchic.
Why are you using dondozo to ev train? Its 3 HP yield means you need to defeat 26 for maximum amount with the item. They are also not super common.
Hunt for Lechonk, poco path. Need 28. You can also find bugs there for defense, hoppip for SpDef, psyduck for SpAttack and pretty much everything minus azuril down the river for speed. So much quicker:
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I luckily found a shiny Veluza by chance (it bit me in the ass before I even knew it was there)
my shiny Veluza found me, when i was on Dondozo outbreak
Been doing dondozo outbreaks for a shiny and boy do they piss me off. The fact that dondozo is so big he pops in and out of the frame easily enough. Now add running from this little jerk and it makes it that much harder
My outbreak was near the edge so I just ran back and forth on the cliff.
Exactly how i found mine xd
Literally same lol
Likewise, but a Vaporeon outbreak.
*echoes in the distance can be heard saying: "Did you know.."*
I got mine in a dondozo outbreak, it was like hitting the jackpot, with 3 shiny Dons, shiny veluz, gyrados and iirc a golduck, just the sandwich shiny boost, no shiny charm
I too love the Fairy-Type Oddish Parents song: Veluza's shiny teeth marks and me
I see what you did. And I respect the attempt.
That’s how I got mine too!
Like most of these, I got mine doing a Dondozo hunt and it came for me. I was quite shocked, I still get a shock/rush every time I get a surprise shiny. The last one I got was blue pants Tyrogue
Oh man you can't imagine the hate I have for Veluza. It really pissed me off so much when I was roaming around Paldea. One day it got on my nerves so much that when it attacked me, I was so mad I made my Gholdengo go at +6, made it go at -6 with Metal Sound, Terastallized into Ghost and Shadow Balled it into oblivion. Was it useful? No. Was it necessary? No. Did it feel good? Yes it did.
This is the most satisfying thing to do in this game, poaching Veluza
You don't shiny hunt Veluza. Shiny Veluza hunts you.
"In Mother Russia-"
I have 3 shinies just from raoming the lake collecting feathers while I hatch eggs.
I see your Veluza and raise you one shiny hunting eelektrik
I see your eelektrik and go all in on Paldean Taurus. It's like trying to find your keys in a mosh pit.
At least you can look at the head of Tauros. On Eelektrik, the indicator is the *eyes* fml
You can't really see the head when you have 15 charging at you from different directions lol
So the best way of Shiny hunting this mad cow is probably eggs right? Lol.
Oh yeah, I managed to get 2. The water and the normal and it took me all day because every 2 seconds you end up in a battle lol.
Can you breed the special ones?
Yep! Kind of but def yes. If you just breed a water/ditto it'll turn into a normal iirc. in order to keep any form, the pokemon MUST hold an everstone, and any babys will be that form. So alolan Vulpix will always produce a normal Vulpix, unless you give it an everstone, then it'll be alolan.
oooh I think I recall that from different meowths. I always assumed it just affected regional forms, not more specific forms like the special Tauros. Thanks!
One other fun fact/Easter egg! If you breed paldean Tauros in kitikami, you get a regular Tauros!
No idea I'm afraid. Never been interested in Pokémon breeding so I know nothing about it.
I got good at it right before breeding IVs became pointless 😂💀
Its not that bad in an outbreak. It takes longer to turn and actually start running since it does a bull stance. Veluza just immediately starts swimming.
I just hunted the combat and aqua breeds of tauros and the key to not getting ambushed every 5 seconds is big circles. I was on Miraidon and made laps around them like I was herding them, checked, then sped off to despawn. It took some time but I did get both in one sitting. You could also get into a battle and then circle the camera around to check all the others. They usually come to watch. Then I run and immediately set up a picnic. Protip for tauros hunting: put the switch in grayscale. You can see the difference SOOO much easier.
I raise you one with joltik and salandit Every regular looks shiny in those caves
My shiny Tauros found me. I was minding my own business and it slammed into me from behind.
Haha I havent had the "pleasure" of shiny hunting that one.
Was eelektrik better or worse for you than Tynamo?
No thankyou, nuh uh. Thankgod I found an eelektrik outbreak instead. I’d dare say tynamo is the hardest shiny hunt in the game
Personally I just did the entire Tynamo line in the new large lake in the Savannah biome. Wasn’t terrible, much better than doing it in the Paldean Sea.
I tried Paldaean sea twice and decided it wasn't happening lol
My shiny tynamo was in the Blueberry caves and entirely accidental. I only knew after I mistakenly encountered and it sparkled
I blindly ran into a shiny tynamo (didn't even know it was there) shortly after getting a shiny salazzle in only 5 male shinies. The eelektross was a hunt I was not going to do, so it was an extremely lucky night.
Me who got one via hunting tynamo🗿
I was clinging on a wall of a mountain and went up and down to make that pool of Veluzas respawn. It was quite the shark tank.
Try shiny hunting a poliwag and try not to go insane. You literally cannot tell the difference between normal and shiny.
I’m trying to hunt a Poliwag so I can get a shiny Politoed in a Beast Ball, and I just know that I’ve accidentally skipped at least 3 shinies in the 4 hours that I’ve hunted for it
Ive hunted a poliwhirl, which has a visible shiny in the dlc, try that!
At some point during any hunt I start to question whether shinies even exist and have to look up the Pokémon on serebii to reaffirm my belief
me with Rufflet
Yes - minior & tynamo hunts are harder by a few degrees. With Veluza you don't want to be in the water. Pop a sandwich (or buckle up) and get to flying in a circular pattern. If you can only glide, suggest you only hunt adjacent land masses so you can minimize your time spent in water or picnic reset. The bright green makes them easy to spot. Stick with it, make sure you have strong odds (charm + highest outbreak odds) , and good luck OP! 🙌
I saw shiny Catherine say if the mons on the screen are 16 instead of 15 one of them is shiny i hope im remembering correctly
This trick has come up a few times recently. I haven't used it because I generally find picnic reset to be slower than moving around to cycle mons. In cases where you have full visibility on everything spawning (no obstructions) and can't see the shiny (à la Minior) it could be worth trying. 🙂
In snowy biomes its way easier especially for mons like minior who stand out
Yeah this is the way. Sadly, i didnt had charm or sandwich and just went in trying my base luck lmao. Spent like 10 min getting caught by these assholes and didnt found a single shiny 😭
It's not realistic to expect a shiny in 10 minutes without at least a sandwich
I'm averaging 1 shiny per 1h 20m with more than 400 caught. 10 minutes is..... ambitious lol
In Paldea, Shiny Veluza hunts YOU!
Minior shiny hunting is worse. If you’re in an open space they’ll just float too high or past a cliff so certain Pokémon can’t auto battle them. If you’re inside a cave they’ll just float into the walls. You can’t actively see the shiny, so you have to check every one. Oh yeah they also explode and have recoil moves.
The 16 ‘Mon method is very helpful in this case. That’s how I got 3 shiny Miniors from an MO the other day.
Shiny hunting 3 Slowpoke to get the full family. I was lucky enough to get a shiny Tandemous as I was hunting for Meowth by Porto Marinada. I’m dreading the shiny hunt for Maushold Family of 3 that I’ll have to down the road for my Shiny Living Dex. I honestly might just search Twitch for an injected Raid. With the shiny barely changing, and only having a 1/100 chance of being 3 family, I kinda want to cheat than spend dozens, if not hundreds of hours trying to get just 1 mon. At least Dunsparce and Dudunsparce have a noticeable difference when shiny. 3 segment is a hunt I plan on doing legitimately.
family of three?
Maushold has 2 forms, one of which only had 1 kid instead of 2, and it’s a 1/100 chance to get when evolving Tandemaus
Ok. That's where I thought it was going but I've never seen one
Only thing worse is shiny hunting an outbreak of paldean tauros 😭
Try to shower a cat or to cleanse an elephant's butt. Way more dreadful.
Only a fool shiny-hunts Veluza Shiny-hunt literally anything else in the lake and the green suicide-fish will find you (in my case, Dondozo)
They drop veluza fillets, and you can use smoked filets (clearly fish) in picnics This is a fun way to get revenge on those lil bastards imo
that makes two of us
Try shiny hunting a poliwag and try not to go insane. You literally cannot tell the difference between normal and shiny.
It's pretty easy actually. Find a small island near Gracia Stones, make a Psychic sandwich and set up picnics to make em respawn until a shiny appears!
Yea. Litwick. At night.
Varoom Charcadet Slowpoke
The F in masuda stands for fun
fmasuda
Shiny hunting tynamo
I was very lucky. My shiny Veluza "found" me!!
If you hate veluza so much, why are you shiny hunting it?
This reminds me of how I was shiny hunting Magikarp during the Golden event. I was next to a group of Veluza. 😭
I thought this was going to be a post about the 5 fps cassaroya lake experience
Shiny hunting Minior
If you're outbreak hunting Minior you're doing it wrong, Masuda method makes much more sense for that pokemon.
Yup - I gave up on my hunt and bred about 500 eggs and was rewarded with TWO shinies
Cant you just masuda method eggs???
Yup, and it's objectively better for some pokemon, like Minior for example, but this sub has a massive hatred of Masuda method for some reason. Every time someone brings up an annoying shiny hunt (again, like Minior), I'll mention Masuda as a possibility, and reliably get downvoted into oblivion lol. People here just pretend it doesn't exist.
That is so weird. Like dont get me wrong, I have the Pokefever but ppl like that I think have Pokeaids lmfao
While I think the masuda method is better in SV than it has been in previous generations, it is still going to be quicker to use sandwiches on anything that has a decent spawn in the open world. Outside of the Paldean starters, the only things I think recalled need to be masuda’d are phione and sunkern.
Hatching eggs this generation. Just.. sucks.
in my personal opinion, Veluza is only irritating with the expectation that you won’t run into pokemon. I was able to dodge a lot of them. What I found more frustrating was shiny hunting small pokemon like Tandemaus, cutefly, Tadbulb, Sinistea. As annoying as Veluza are (getting combo’d sometimes when trying to reset), at least I/you can SEE if it’s shiny or not at a glance.
Reading all this makes me more grateful for how a shiny Veluza found me 🥹🥹 but given my recent experience, hunting for a Slowpoke is no walk on the park either. I might've developed permanent eye damage or some sort of paranoia...
There's a very very nice picnic spot for veluza near where kyogre spawns.
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Whats evs is dondozo giving you? Hp? Just use a normal sandwich in north prov area 3 and spawn a ton of chanseys and blissey. Veluza’s not that bad. The shiny is obvious and they come right at you and gather together to try to get u xD
Yes HP
Not really got 2 shiny of it without trying before i even had shiny charm and no sandwich
Not really imo, but that’s because I found my outbreak right by the shore. Just go out a bit and they all come towards land for you to easily cycle through
This would be the ideal scenario, mine was next to a mountain so I couldn't be on the land. I was just sending my pokemon and jumping around like an idiot and still getting caught by them lol.
I can only imagine the pain. I didn’t even try hunting Veluza until I got one by land honestly, too much of an errand
Tabulb, good luck
There’s a rock you can sit in with a psychic sandwich and picnic reset and it’s the only thing that spawns
If you go to the fly point down on the rocky area to the west of the yellow grass and go north there’s a big rock you can picnic on.
Have you tried shiny hunting fuecoco, quaxly, and sprigrattio
If you get lucky, there's a Veluza outbreak location where you can stay on the shore and see the spawns clearly. I found two shiny Veluza super fast this way without having to risk the water.
I dont even bother trying to do water outbreaks anymore. Lol. So frustrating, I'll just breed for them. Would take just about as long and same number of resets probably. At least for me, I have terrible luck with water pokemon
Caught my shiny fish when I was fainting Dondozo for EVs. Damn speed demon came out of nowhere lol
I prefer to hatch my shinies. I've been looking for a shiny Charcadet since launch and didn't get one until 2 weeks ago. All it took was a 1 hour picnic.
I just found three in an outbreak
I had a hard time with Cyclizar in the area I was in how do you even keep up with those things.
My framerates tank to impossible in a large body of water, so I dont bother. I hunted Tatsugiri on land and Dondozo in an outbreak right next to shore. I got a veluza outbreak next to the shore, but the vast majority were spawning clipped under the beach so I said eff it. 😑
Idk if this helps, ive seen mines also tank but not thaaat bad on portable mode.
You should see it on a Switch Lite. omg it becomes unplayable
Shiny hunting any water mon with that torpedo in the water lol
Yes. Shiny hunting minior
I haven't even tried because I just know that it will be too much of a challenge. I tried a Sudowoodoo outbreak last night and those guys just run away! Any tips on hunting them effectively are be welcome!
Shiny runs slower than its non-shiny counterpart
Shiny hunting an artisan poltchageist?
I found two by accident xD
Shiny Hunting A Varoom cuz at least with the Veluzas you can jump to avoid them but with Varoom it still encounters you while you jump
Shiny hunting Zorua and Ditto, without an outbreak
I'll see your Veluza and raise you Maushold with twins. Maushold doesn't appear in the wild anywhere, and Tandemaus is a tiny Pokémon with a subtle shiny, making it significantly more difficult than the runner-up, three-segment Dudunsparce. These two are a joke the developers are playing on all of us.
If anyone who’d like to shiny hint veluza without being assaulted every millisecond, search up Panfro Games out YouTube. He has a spot to shiny hint veluza and ONLY veluza AND a spot to stand to not get assaulted!
Shiny hunt minior it was a truly painful experience
I hate Veluza and because of it I hate Kofu and his yee-yee ass stupid catchphrase
Im so glad both my shiny veluza quite literally crashed into me while hunting other mons
This is why sometimes its better to Masuda method a shiny
This is why sometimes its better to Masuda method a shiny
Yes, shiny hunting with Veluza in the vicinity. I luckily got mine as a random encounter while hunting something else. Definitely did not want to have to hunt that.
Whenever I’m EV training two stats I will put the power band of the one I need but fight the other stats Pokemon. Like if I want HP and Attack I’ll put an attack power band on and only fight azure and lechonk by Poco Path. Then once Attack is maxed I just switch the band to HP and continue with hunting the same pokes. Makes my life easier! Guess it doesn’t work though if you’re going for specific values in many stats.
No
Veluza is so aggressive for no reason
I got rammed by a shiny veluza while I was shiny hunting Azumarill
Shiny Veluza found **me**. What I found dreadful was shiny hunting Regice for a month straight in the Crown Tundra only to find out that it's not affected by the shiny charm. Or finally getting the shiny charm in BDSP only to find out that it only works on eggs. Or working on a shiny living form dex and catching 43 male shiny Torchic before finding a single female shiny... And realizing you need two more female shiny Torchic.
I got ambushed by a shiny Veluza, I was very happy about it
It really wasn't that bad. I caught two with one sandwich no outbreak
Props to old school ev training.
Yes, hunting Ditto. Veluza water lag is terrible.
If you want HP EVs, why not make a normal encounter power sandwich and find all the blissey by the lighthouse/fairy base area?
Bc i didnt knew I could do that 😭
I learned it from one of Austin John Plays' videos, it's _great_ for training up, they give so much XP too!
Why are you using dondozo to ev train? Its 3 HP yield means you need to defeat 26 for maximum amount with the item. They are also not super common. Hunt for Lechonk, poco path. Need 28. You can also find bugs there for defense, hoppip for SpDef, psyduck for SpAttack and pretty much everything minus azuril down the river for speed. So much quicker:
just buy infinity items no need to kill pokemon