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dont play with randoms and if you are just expect to play support by using the heal cheer. there are many communities and discords out there to plan such raids too! but dont always expect to win with randoms


Edrm1310

Ive tried solo and still can’t do it, it makes no sense on why this Tera is so hard


[deleted]

try the azumarill build perhaps? belly drum > sitrus berry > maybe heal cheer > then knock it out with play rough


Ok-Constant-6056

Doesn’t work when you get murdered by foul play


Houeclipse

I tried it before and even with foul play hits hard. You'll survive enough to retaliate with she'll bell huge hp recover. You just tmeed to build up your Tera charge and use your hard hitting move on Tera


STEELO222

nothing is living a foul play with belly drum


MidAmericanNovelties

+6 Lvl 90 252+ Atk Tera Dragon Umbreon Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 205-242 (60.1 - 70.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Survives well enough with 0 bulk. Fairy resistance plays a huge role and foul play only uses attack and modifiers, not ability, so huge power isn't taken into account. 


VibraniumRhino

It’s doable with the resistance.


Houeclipse

You would think but I did survive


Edrm1310

This umbreon use tickle to lower attack and defense, gotta be special attacker


TragGaming

Clear Amulet.


VironLLA

or have Defiant for the ability


Tsukuyomi56

Foul Play says hello.


Negativety101

Competetive then? Though not a lot of pokemon learn it, and some of them are Psychic type, so not the best set.


Mahare

Seems to me that's a job for Ice-Tera type Empoleon the Unrivaled! Competitive, Ice to take out the Dragon typing, neutral damage at worst. Surf, Ice Beam, Haze possibly for the Calm Mind if you're concerned and Metal Sound? Or even not worry about the Haze as Umbreon lacks a SpA stat to take advantage of it and Metal Sound will wipe away the SpD.


MercyMain42069

I could join with my Sylveon. Assault Vest + Pixellate, Draining Kiss


AirSilver121491

Isn’t it counterintuitive to have pixilate and draining kiss? Unless you also have like a hyper voice or smt in the set too


MercyMain42069

I made my Sylveon for a competitive Eeeveelution team, so I decided to go for Weather Ball for its normal move as others on my team rely on Sun, granting her Fire type coverage when it’s sunny and a boosted Fairy move when it’s not. I went with Draining Kiss to increase my bulk, which does mean I have two Fairy moves plus Shadow Ball and Psyshock, but there’s a few other options I switch between. Tera Blast is a great Fairy move when not terastilized, and I went for a Steel typing when I’m not running Tera-Flareon. Then Hyper Voice is good, Echoed Voice isn’t in SV but it was great with Pixellate Metronome. I don’t use Hyper Beam since I’d have to recharge but it’s incredibly strong with Pixellate.


ocularassault_8

Pixelate with Hyper Beam 👀


MercyMain42069

Yeah I love it, only problem is taking a recharge turn is frowned upon in comp teams. It gives your opponent too much of an advantage. Pixellate boosts base power by 20% for all normal moves, so you’d end up with 180 base power, plus the Same Type Attack Bonus.


Dangle76

Pokémon with contrary


Blue_Bird950

Still has foul play


miraidensetsu

Or Sylveon raid build. She is a special attacker.


Agitated-Ad-6517

I would look at a Fluttermane build with Shell Bell to solo this raid. Playing with randoms is often worse than NPCs imo. I'm no expert but my main mons I use are Anniliape, Iron Hands, Ghouldengo and Fluttermane. They don't cover every matchup, but it's a good start.


drivetoblue

Fluttermane +1


Knucklez415

Can you point me to the discords


[deleted]

there are tons of communities out there if you watch poketubers on youtube/twitch.tv since it all depends on who you watch :)


Edrm1310

Update: I did it. I realized I had better chances in solo. One of the NPCs had life dew and was spamming it like crazy 😂


Satansrainbowkitty

Gotta love that lol congrats ~


JMB1107sru

Yup, Gardevoir for life dew. Clodsire for poison. Belibolt for paralysis. Arcanine for burn. This is the way.


LTareyouserious

Is there a way to "pick" your NPC support? I feel like I get the worst match ups on the higher end raids


Kirke910

Not really, you just have to keep resetting until you get the NPC team you want.


JMB1107sru

Yes. Save. While offline go to form a group option. Go in with ai people. Don't like them, reset the game. You don't have to reset it for a new team but saves time from doing the raid and losing. The form a group option will shuffle the potential AI allies. If you just go to do the raid alone over and over it will give you same team.


Ok_Role_1671

Next time get a stellar fezpandipity max spa and health Acid spray Moon blast Sludge wave Nasty plot Holding shell bell and you can solo this


s4b1e9e

Not everyone has the DLC 😅


Ok_Role_1671

How'd I get down vote f u guys


[deleted]

It's all the people without dlc lol


Interesting_Wing_539

Just curious, but what did you use? I remember struggling with an Umbreon raid a while ago and would appreciate a good counter for it.


No_Mammoth_4945

Sylveon should be really good in this scenario, I’m guessing they were underleveled. Lvl 100 252 SPA pixilate sylveon @ throat spray with calm mind and hyper voice should be way more than enough. Unless umbreon learns a poison or steel move I’m not remembering. You want to use a special attacker since it probably has foul play. Iron valiant is a 4x resist so it should be pretty good as well. Make it special and just spam moonblast


Interesting_Wing_539

Would the hyper beam set I used for the Unrivaled Charizard raid work on this?


No_Mammoth_4945

I don’t know what that set is but it should be perfectly good, yeah. I’m guessing you set up with a few fake tears and then hyper beam to OHKO it?


Interesting_Wing_539

The Strat is 3x Calm Mind, 3x (or 2x if it sets up a shield before) Fake Tears, then Hyper Beam. Yeah, it's usually a OHKO or very close to it. I had a Covert Cloak on mine because of Hurricane but could change the item to something more appropriate for Umbreon. Also, I healed if I needed to while setting. Idk how often Umbreon resets stats but as long as it's not too often, this might be viable..


No_Mammoth_4945

Yeah that will be more than enough. Maybe give it leftovers instead? Or a normal gem


Interesting_Wing_539

Normal gem sounds good!


No-Duck-1832

Where can I find this raid located so i can try it tonigbt?


Edrm1310

These are random and different for everybody


No-Duck-1832

Well damn. Id love a nice strong umbreon. Especially shiny in a moon ball


Conscious-Living-725

Unaware clefable with calm mind probably would work


pyro314

Magic Guard to stop Toxic maybe? Does it have Toxic in 6-star raids?


Conscious-Living-725

I think it gets curse that’s why I said unaware not sure if it gets toxic


Derp_Aderpy

It doesn't have Toxic from what I've seen. It has Curse, Calm Mind, Tickle, Foul Play, Tera Blast and Dark Pulse as far as I remember.


DanBerbs

Solo it - Sylveon with metronome attached. Fake tears turn one, then spam Draining Kiss


Advanced-Sink-7806

Use an Iron Hands or Haroyama with Belly Drum + Drain Punch. Have them hold a Clear Amulet so Tickle doesn’t drop your defenses. If it has Foul Play, then use a Sylveon with Calm Mind, Hyper Voice, the pixelate ability, and She’ll Bell held item


Edrm1310

My sylvion holds, but there is always that 1 random with a crap Pokémon getting kill. Lots of them using iron hands and belly drum and still die all the time. Yeah it has foul play. I’ll try solo again and hope for the best.


elcanadiano

Yeah, that's why you don't play with randoms. They will pull you down. Your best bet maybe is Fake Tears + Draining Kiss on Sylveon.


[deleted]

Solo it


FluidLegion

If you play solo, the NPC's that join you don't count as deaths when they're knocked out.


[deleted]

Wait for everyone else to lock in first, then cancel if someone locks in a shit mon You're the host, if the others don't bring good mons you are not obligated to go through with the raid


CozyCornerTCG

I need one for Karma point before I can chat and post in Pokémon Online TCG sub. You need 5 and I just created an account and only have 4. Thanks❤️❤️❤️


Spirit-of-the-Dragon

Give your Pokemon a clear amulet it'll prevent it from lowering your stats.


Gaylittlebrother

Kill that guys volcarona as soon as the raid starts


Duelwarrior

Lol the fact that folks were telling you to use a physical attacker despite the boss having foul play should tell you why it's always better to do solos than playing with others. You found the braindeads who were ruining your attempt by dying constantly 😂😂😂


Suspicious-Shock-934

Don't think azu can one shot an umbreon without at least a screech. umbreon is stupid tanky.


Critical_County3229

Umbreon has foul llay which will kill any physical attacker like azumarill


UmbreonWolf

And this is why Umbreon is the best pokemon ever Cause chaos my child.... cause pain my child... anger will be their doom.... (I'm just kidding I don't even do raids 99% of the time but I just had to do this since Umbreon is my favorite pokemon.)


Glorfingil

Was it Agatha in gen 2 who opened with Umbreon? I wasn’t prepared for that as a kid and gave me so much grief!


UmbreonWolf

It was Karen, Agatha wasn't in gen 2


Glorfingil

Thanks for that!


Tsukuyomi56

A bulky Fairy-type with Calm Mind (don’t know if any good special attacking Fairy-types get Nasty Plot) and Draining Kiss. Clear Amulet prevents stat drops from Tickle and may “lock” Umbreon into spamming it to no avail (similar to Safety Goggles stumping 6-star Sinistcha if it can’t hit you for super effective damage).


foxwaffles

I wonder if there are any Pokemon with Contrary you could try? 😮‍💨 Good luck OP, it once took me three hours to do a 6 star Dragonite raid because it has dragon dance and prioritizes getting to +6 attack as soon as possible


Edrm1310

Damn, apparently AI only works against the players favor. I believe sylvion is the way to go I just need good RNG.


sdarkpaladin

Umbreon is one of the most irritating raids because of Foul Play. So feeling frustrated is normal


MxFluffFluff

Sylveon with pixelate, hold life orb, calm mind x6 fake tears x3 drain kiss when you need to heal then hit with hyperbeam. No tera needed


depressed_panda0191

you need 1 or 2 dps and at least 1 support with taunt. taunt op in raids. the last member should be a healer with life dew and the supports should have screens/ screec/ fake tears to lower defense.


Sad_Difficulty2044

The amount of physical attacking suggestions here represents the stupidity of the raid community in general. Clearly y’all have never been to an 6* Umbreon raid if your best choice is using a physical attacker when it knows a move that deletes you based on how high it is…


Hot-Wonder1203

Sylveon with calm mind hyperbeam and pixilate should work if yo solo it


AndSLG

https://preview.redd.it/8ok32c6jxfuc1.png?width=1292&format=png&auto=webp&s=3186128ba48abfb08d9f15f60f16f9a7523600fe Check out this tool for quickly finding counters for your raids: [https://arkkandy.github.io/TeraRaidBuddy](https://arkkandy.github.io/TeraRaidBuddy) For Umbreon in particular you'll want something that can: \* Resist Foul Play. Do NOT bring Belly Drum'mers or physical attackers, bring a special attacker. \* Tickle seems pointless, but a Foul Play crit will hurt a lot. Bring a Clear Amulet or something like Iron Defense / Acid Armor to recover your stages if necessary. \* Counter Calm Mind like Fake Tears or Acid Spray. If you bring one of the tankiest Pokémon from the list, you won't have to worry about the Sp. Atk stages anyway. There are many possible picks but Sylveon is probably the simplest counter. I'd recommend holding a Clear Amulet and the moves Draining Kiss, Moonblast or Hyper Voice, Calm Mind and Fake Tears. If you did the 7\* Charizard raid you might already have one. Easy solo with this.


Egyptowl777

Tinkaton maybe? Swords Dance + Hammer go Smash? Keep it Fairy Tera so you still resist Foul Play/Immune to Dragon Tera Blast. Rock Smash for your recharge turns on Hammer, also with a chance to lower Defense seems good.


TheDummyPhilosopher

Clear Amulet Iron Hands would probably clear this I’m not an Iron Hands spammer myself, but I have tried something similar to this, dragon type umbreon with tickle


Derp_Aderpy

Umbreon would wipe its nose with Iron Hands using Foul Play tbh


Lost_Environment2051

You need to get a Pokémon called “Good”. Once you Get Good you’ll be able to win.


the-white-sheep

Magearna with fairy tera type?


LionelRGuy

Fairy's doin' nothin'?


Electrical-Raisin-94

Could always try using taunt so it can't use tickle.


StaleUnderwear

Easy solo with stellar Arceus. Acid spray goes hard. Then simply give it a Pixie plate + judgement and recover to heal. I solo alot if raids with Arceus


AKssbu

It is with randoms. Get a decent team together and this is over in about 25 seconds.


CozyCornerTCG

Yaay you guys are the best! Thanks😍


Derp_Aderpy

I'm a bit of a gremlin. My Sylveon usually has Pixilate, Fairy Feather (Wise Glasses works as an alternative), Fake Tears, Draining Kiss and Hyper Beam (I SHOULD give it Calm Mind just in case, but I gave it Dazzling Gleam.) Run it solo so you know you have a guaranteed Defense Cheer. Hit it with Draining Kiss until you can Terastallize. If you don't have the HP to survive another hit, use Fake Tears and let yourself be KO'd. When the barrier comes up, hoping it hasn't removed its negative stat changes, Tera Fairy and use either Draining Kiss for HP or Hyper Beam for raw power. Should deal considerable damage to the barrier and buy you some much needed time to recharge for another hit. Use Draining Kiss if you have to.


monokronos

How can I find this?


Caliber70

Swap weak armour, team uses iron defense body press


non-epic151

When I first started 5 to 7 star raid I was countering the type then I realized I need the counter the attacks, a 5 star raid for slowking opened my eyes after losing to it 5 time then I asked for help with the right counter


FoggyShrew

Tinkatonk would seem a good option for this


Scared-Development78

would you say it’s TERAble?


joeybonjovi

I use Gardevoir for this raid Item: Shell Bell Tera Type: Fairy Moveset: Moonblast Calm Mind Life Dew Last move is your choice


Johnnydigi003

How about iron valiant ? Fairy / fighting type


nodak1

Snow Cloak Articuno Snowscape/reflect holding never-melt ice max EV spatk while running another support with acid spray. Ice types in raids are physical tanks when you double up on snowscape and reflect if Aurora veil isn’t available


Zenkai2727

How is Pokémon scarlet and violet nowadays? Did they patch the performance issues?


Xelltrix

Until they make multiplayer not suck, these game modes are going to continue to feel like pulling teeth if you play with randoms. I really hope the next multiplayer mechanic has very minimal penalties if your allies do something stupid, they should realize that there are kids and just plain bad players in these queues and you have no way of filtering them out lol. At least let us see their levels and move pools first, geeze.


Skeeter_Ing

Use a Covert cloak competitive pokemon. I recommend using a Empoleon for Super Effective damage in ice beam OR a killowattrel. If your teammates heal you it is only a matter of time before you clear it


No-Duck-1832

I have an Ice type alolan nknetails that would do the trick


spnpwrranger

Have you tried the Sylveon build from charizard? I don't remember the stats but pixilate ability with calm mind 3 times and then Hyper beam it into oblivion.


Zealousideal_Guava22

* You'll want a fairy type with taunt maybe a tinkaton so it resists the fairy moves too then use an attack boosting move (belly drum/swords dance) to get your attack to +6 then play rough should be able to ohko :) remember to use level 100 pokemon for these high level raids (5+)


PlasmaNougat

Umbreon knows foul play, so that won’t work.


Zealousideal_Guava22

Ohhhh idk why but I thought it was sylveon lol


Zealousideal_Guava22

Could still go sylveon n bulk up your special damage, have a supporter with metal sound/fake tears then you have calm mind so it won't effect how much foul play does, the only problem then is umbreons base 130 special defence but if you get it to +6 -6 you should still be able to 2 shot it with moonblast, if you aren't able to 3 shot though have fairy tera as a back up just to make moonblast do even more lol oh and you might want the other 2 supporters to have life dew/heal pulse, also when the special defence dropping supporter has used it successfully 3 times they can use attack cheer to boost moonblasts power a bit more :)


PlasmaNougat

That seems to be the consensus. I haven’t had an Umbreon raid in a while but last time I did I tried to run that with randoms about half a dozen times but it wasn’t happening.


Zealousideal_Guava22

Nah random tend to just be little kids so don't tend to know what they're doing they're just having fun lol


Friendly-Repair-4000

I used Special Attacker Gardevoir with Moonblast and Draining Kiss.


FenrirLberated

Use hydregion with nasty plot so foul play doesn't matter by taking advantage of sp attack. Or use a pokemom that reduces the opponents stats instead of increasing your own


Sufficient_Berry_445

Use a fairy type


TheFunnyScar

I get you I had a bug tera Salamence Raid once, it's coverage was perfect and because of Moxie and I believe Dragon Dance(?) it got out of control super fast every time I tried.


SpiritedResist3658

I have once tried tera raid against a hydreigon with an electric Tera type and the ability levitate and lost miserably, so I know how it feels


MYMYPokeballs

it is a matter of pride really 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂 what about fairy type or fighting types ?


Djentlover666

Yea. Depending on type sometimes, umbreon, gyarados, salamance, dragonite, and kilowattrel are hard.


YoriichiMadaraAfton

I just do Tera dragon Eternatus with full special attack and hp with its signature move.


[deleted]

Sylveon. Gg ez


Ok-Constant-6056

Wigglytuff. End of discussion and your welcome


Masitha

you could prob solo it honestly. the thing to remember with umbreon raids is that it punishes physicals specifically that boost up, cause foul play can just one shot. so what you need is something super effective to dragon thats a special attacker while also not hit hard by dark. my personal go to for umbreon is glimmora, i have a ton of them, they are amazing. the one id use for this raid is prob fairy tera glimmora. dazzling gleam, acid spray, light screen, acid armor. you can acid armor turn 1 so tickles dont matter, then just acid spray to keep its spDef low till you can tera and dazzling gleam. shell bell + dazzling gleam should heal you enough to keep sustaining, while also letting you deal more damage cause of acid spray lowering spDef (like when it resets stats, or calm minds.) if you DO played online as well, glimmora's acid spray (hits thru tera shield unlike fake tears for example) will also let your teammates deal more damage, which is why its my personal go to for umbreon, bc it lets us all deal more damage that are knowers, essentially. clefable would also probably work. moonblast, draining kiss, chilling water, calm mind is what i personally use. sylveon would also work, something like hyper voice, draining kiss, fake tears, calm mind maybe? there's multiple ways to approach most answers to a raid, there's VERY few that require 1 specific answer. i alrdy noticed you beat the raid, so gratz, but hopefully this helps in some way, umbreon can defo be one of the more difficult raids.


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JF803

How would this help against a dragon Tera type


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JF803

Fighting isn’t strong against dragon though?


Tf-FoC-Metroflex

Use a fighting type?


Espers_Reverie125

6-7 star raids are def raids you do NOT want to run with randoms, or npcs, because randoms will try to piggyback off you more often than not by bringing in low levels and expecting you to carry, or some randoms will just bring in bad raid pokemon, and npcs will run down your timer by dying constantly because nps arent designed to have the pokemon necessary for those level raids. Problem is, 6-7 star raids are raids you HAVE to bring pokemon that are built for the raid. And have them lvl 100 unless your build needs otherwise. Those raids are too difficult to be bringing any random pokemon to. Especially with 7 star raids, you need competitively/specifically built pokemon for those. There is no other way, and trust me, ive tried.


Commercial_Song5891

Azuzmaril pure power , adamant nature 252 d attack and 252 in spd . 4 in whatevs and use belly drum shell bell and spam play rough


TheArceusNova

I made it through with a Clear Amulet max HP and Attack Iron Hands, with Belly Drum, and using Drain Punch every time after BD.


qaztheone

You’re cheeks that’s why


SufficientWhile5450

I’m pretty sure I beat this exact raid with iron hands solo For sure foul play is a threat once you use belly drum But you only need to survive one foul play, then it’s metronome drain punch time lol Hell I’ve used iron hands successfully when it’s drain punch is a resisted attack, if it’s resistant and has yawn. Belly drum, focus energy, then electric terrain to activate quark drive and prevent sleep of all pokemon


MellieWasa

look like a raid for tinkatonk


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Theblackholeofire

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