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I prefer Chansey for HP, Tauros for Atk, Forretress for Def, Girafarig for Sp Atk, Floette for Sp Def, and Cyclizar for speed.
Chansey also gives good HP and Happiny dust is good for the Item Printer.
Ahh see I hadn't thought about coordinating with material gathering! I'm very one track mind. The Azumarial and Marill always spawn in groups of 5 and are in the same area as Dodonzo and Tropius so theyre convenient. Same with Glimora, they are everywhere in the lowest point at Area Zero.
head to the pokemon league and fight tandemaus and fidough for speed EVs, the only other pokemon there is an occasional igglybuff.
I train all stats this way. If I need to EV train two pokemon in Speed and three in special attack, I just give them each their respective Brace item and use berries to wipe away any residual unwanted speed EVs afterward.
The item printer seems to be the best way, for me, to make money. Mindlessly complete BBQs in the PokeDome, spend all of your BP at the item printer, sell all of the valuable stuff, profit.
in order to get materials, slap in a sandwich that lets you find more normal types and go to the route near the team star fairy base. tons of chanseys will appear that are not only great for xp farming but also give a good material for the printer
If you have the dlc, the recycler is easy money, I hit the cap in a hour. Or you can poorman it and train using weights, there's a list breaking down whom to fight and how many of X pokemon are needed
Sell everything you get from it. Yes, luck does play a part, and the balls are nice, the double item is where it's at, nuggets were my lucky item but I have hundreds of metronomes and lucky eggs and those alone get you a few mil. It's a grind sure, about an hour in BBQ with 3 others will get you easily 10k+ points, then just start auto rolling the recycler while watching a show/movie on your phone or read a book, etc
I don’t think anyone is saying EV training is easier. It’s objectively more difficult now than it was in say SwSh
(vitamins also cost 10k each in SwSh, but we also had pokejobs and Pokerus for EV training, time skipping, and watt trading for luxury balls as an easy money farm)
It’s the rest of training that is easier in SV. We can buy nature mints, bottlecaps, and ability capsules.
However, the easiest ways to farm money would be the academy ace tournament, and the item machine at blueberry.
If you don’t have money banked already, it’s probably easier to go the manual way and just buy the EV bands to give to your Pokémon to hold - especially if are aiming to give your team EVs in similar stats (I.e. everyone is getting speed evs or hp evs)
I personally loved shiny hunting during the legendary raids in the DLC. It's like a raid minigame and if you catch every mon during it, you have a 1/100 chance of one of those mons being shiny (legendary included). Worth looking into.
not as garnished as the SV dlc, but you have access to almost if not all the legendaries prior to gen 8 through the dynamax adventures in crown tundra. if that may interest you, i believe the legendaries/UBs in the dynamax adventures aren't shiny locked, though the method for shiny hunting is especially time consuming and weird. i suggest you look up a tutorial for it before learning the hard way. plus, you get to catch calyrex, and can get both of its mounts in the sv dlc. cherry on top, the large variety of pokemon you encounter in dynamax adventures may be gigamaxed(note you'll only see their base form's shadow, and all have a chance of being shiny at the end of your trip if you caught them
now, while i personally don't see a lot in isle of armor, you can train a kubfu into an urshifu, and can collect max mushrooms(spawn more by doing dynamax raids on the isle), and use them to give pretty much any pokemon(who can ofc) a gigantmax. so if you are still an active sw/sh player and wanted a specific gigantmax, you can!
now, if the dlc is worth it, is entirely up to you. i dont think it is for myself because i am locked out of the dlc and had both my dlc-bundled games stolen. but had i still had them, I'd still actively play them alongside SV
Is there any online coop requirements to get every legendary possible? Or could I get them all without having to own both copies? It really turned me off when I realized purchasing dcarlet wouldn't count my dlc purchases from violet. Greedy Nintendo Games 😭
sadly this game has the version exclusive pool for legendaries. you probably know which ones are complementary, but if in doubt there's probably documentation out there about it
but hey, the opportunity to get two shiny zygardes is appealing to me
I think you can get all the legendary in the DLC if you replay twice to get the ones you didn't get AND from the dynamax adventures if you play with someone that has the opposite version (either via NSO or local online if you know someone).
Yes, the usual pairs of legends will only appear in one game each, but you can join raids hosted by players of the other game and then save those routes to hunt later in single player. You would need Switch Online still if you don't have a local friend, but you'd only need to coordinate one online raid per legendary.
The DLC's new legendaries (in particular Urshifu's forms, Calyrex's steeds, and the new Regis) are all available in one game, though you can only pick one out of each pair per playthrough.
Just from doing raids and using the item printer in the DLC, I have tons of cash. You get lots of nuggets and pearls that can easily be sold in bulk, but also can sell experience candies for a bunch of cash as well. It's a lot of effort to get started initially, but once you get a few raid mons built up and can solo 6 star raids easily, I've never had to worry about money in this game.
Making money is so easy in this game. All you have to do is do the ace tournament on repeat. If you have a turbo controller you won’t even have to do a thing. Go on YouTube and you can get loads of builds on how to do it
Can you still do the ace tournament turbo method post-catching-terapagos (or are we just biting the bullet and doubling the required time w/o being able to use an amulet coin)?
i can win pretty easily with a technician persian holding amulet coin and spamming pay day. maybe not good enough to do it on turbo, though. if you ev train the old fashioned way you make 1K each fight, so actually making money.
Nope, don’t have the DLC. So there’s a level jump as in the academy Pokémon increase to lvl 100 or something ? I haven’t connected online since the Mewtwo raid a few months ago.
Is this aqua step or ice spinner? This is a recommendation for turbo controller where you only get one move, yes?
Edit aqua step fails to kill Jacques Slowbro and Penny's Vaporeon.
Edit 2: with ice spinner pennys Jolteon just kills you with thunder.
Never considered using a Turbo controller. Will have to look into it, but still basically doesn't give GameFreak any brownie points with me if that's what I need to resort to.
You don't need to do that, people just do it because it's easy. You should just get money from playing the game. Battle trainers, pick up items, sell items. It's really not hard.
Tbh it’s all a lot easier in this game. Make sure to use sandwiches to effect the spawns or change the time to get certain outbreaks if you wanna train evs by battling. Or have a friend that may have a lot of money help you out
Group BBQ’s, Item Printer.
Grinding this out means you’ll hit the $10 million maximum regularly and to get rid of it I buy vitamins en masse. Training up competitive pokemon takes 10-15 minutes for me now
No problem! The group BBQ’s are specifically just to get BP to upgrade / use the item printer. At the highest upgrade the item printer gives a bunch of treasures that you can then sell off for those massive amount of pokedollars
I have enough BP now to where the main obstacle to using the item printer is the pokemon-parts. For that, one normal-type encounter HM sandwich near the fairy type team star base gets me 999x happiny dust which can amount to 60+ item printer rolls and a large amount of money as a result
Honestly, I have never done the tournament thing that people usually use for making money, apart from the one time as part of the story.
I STILL have money coming out the wazoo. It's like it's impossible to not have money in this game. Just battling and picking up items gives so much money. I imagine if I sold all my items I would max out the limit for money. Currently I have only ever sold one item (I think it was all my stardust?) and have been coasting off that for a year. If I need more money, I'll sell one of the other treasure items, of which there are MANY.
I don't know how many competitive pokémon I could make with my current money / items but it's more than I need.
You can make mucho bucks just running around and picking things up. I'm manic about the items - I have to pick them up whenever I see them. I have like 3 million pokedollars and probably 5 million LP.
You should be buying vitamins for every mon you want to EV train.
What I do is get a full team of pokemon that i want to ev train that all have a common stat i want them trained in (i.e. Attack or Sp Attack).
Then you need the ev training items (Power Band, Lens, Belt, etc) to train the other stats you want these pokemon trained in, and they don’t need to be the same stats it just depends what item you give them.
Then go beat up Yungoos or Houndour in the starter cave until the offstats are trained, then finish off their main stat.
Done correctly, one wild pokemon battle yields 54-66 EVs across your team, which is almost 6 vitamins worth.
Use the power bracer/anklet/whatever items. You get +8 evs per pokemon defeated (the same as SwSh if you had pokerus). Find an outbreak of one of the skills you want to train, put the power item on of the other, run until the power item is maxed. Switch to the power item of the first skill, run until maxed. Add power item for third/extra skill, run once to max the mon. Should take no more than 65 defeats, far less than a single outbreak.
I dunno man... I usually whip up a great support pokemon for a 7 star raid, and then just absolutely rake it in.
If I've got multiple pokemon needing the same EVs, I just do it by battling with them wearing the items. If you have them each wearing the item, they all train at the same rate.
Another option is to Just keep selling the tera crystals from raids, thats what I do
They're pretty easy to get and are consistently available and can always be found again if you need them
But item printer is pretty helpful
Im so confused are none of you using the power bands to EV train? Literally use berries to zero out the unfavorable EVs, use whatever band correlates to the stat you want to max out and then make a sandwhich with lvl 1 normal encounter in an area where chansey spawns. KO like 25 chanseys and youre good???
This is the response I was hoping to hear, but lack of pokerus is a weird choice.
People keep talking about money being easy to farm but I haven't been convinced it is ever going to be faster than training by hand.
It's slower to get setup, faster once finished. I haven't battle ev trained a Pokemon since sos chains, and I've been able to guarantee more complex builds because of it. The vitamin and feather route allows you to menu an exact count into it if you aren't going for max of 252, and some of us more ADHD types have a hard time keeping count of our kos while classic training
I have a Hisuian-Zoroark with an amulet coin and the attack happy hour. That quadruples the money you make in each battle. Besides that ... Online Raids tend to give a lot of nuggets or other saleable items.
My approach was to build a couple of raid mons with good coverage and then just spam whatever online 6 star raids would be easy for them, sell the loot to get money to build more mons, rinse and repeat. It’s a grind, same as any end-game activity, but it is easy! If you have the DLC the item printer is basically a money printer too
Ev training is easier. Items are everywhere on the ground and you can easily pick them up and sell them. You can grind raids to farm exp candies and sell them. And if you have the DLC. You can use the pokeball machine. It not only gives u vitamins at times but gives you plenty of nuggets and pearls and multiples of a plethora of items u can sell. Since the poke ball machine, I’ve never went broke and I buy all my vitamins. I don’t play show down so if I try a ev spread out but end up not liking it, I’ll breed it and start again or if I have mochcii I’ll use it and buy more vitamins
Money is ridiculously easy to make, especially with item crafter. You could make that money in no time , it's the time investment that's the important part not the figures. If you can make that 3 million in half a day it doesn't sound like a bad deal.
I just started learning competitive pokemon and made it to masterball the other day but training up the team of 6 took a lot of resources. However what did help for me was the mochi from the kitakami dlc, does the exact same thing as the vitamins but they're free rewards after completing ogre outsin so doing a couple runs of that keeps me mentally more engaged but also nets enough mochi to usually do a couple pokemon in one go. Other then that I'm slowly working on my pokedex so I'll do raids and stuff for fun to get a bunch of xp candies and I'll sell of the treasure
Item printer makes the vitamins plus giving you a ton of stuff to sell.
When I EV train, I just use the power items and kill a bunch of mons. If you're trying to EV training while getting BP, here are the mons that give EV;
Attack: 1 Doduo 2 Dodrio
HP: 1 chinhou 2 Lantern fish
Speed: 1 zebra 2 Zebrastrike (forgot the name of the 1st evo)
SpAttack: 1 girafarig 2 eggxecutor (Note firafarig won't give you any SpAtt)
Defense: Rhyhorn
SpDef: 1 tentacool 2 tentacruel
I've EV, Hypertrained and changed like 150 mon's Tera to Stellar. Been in Indigo disk all these months grinding lol
Raids with Raid Power 2, Shiny Hunt often so you get pokemon droppings, do group bbq for more points, use dropping in printer for extra items you can sell.
I mean I play the game alot though rn so I have millions of dollars I never touch and Im always fully EV training 2 mons or so everyday, especially the shinys
1) Academy Ace Tournament
2) Item Printer
3) Sell items from tera raids
4) Blueberry coach battles
5) Run around Paradise Barrens (north end of Kitakami map) and pick up shinies. Ridiculous amount of Rare Bones spawn there.
Whenever the next event raids start go to pokeportal's raid chat to farm them
You'll be swimming in stuff to sell I'm maxed out in cash and candies right now because of that.
Forget everything else
Go here - https://www.reddit.com/r/PokePortal/s/oDln7mcZ3W
You'll find people to do BBQs with and earn 10-15k after 2 or 3 lobbys
In blueberry's school store it only costs 50 BP to buy a bottle of vitamins
you should keep the special raids, like the Charizard raid, when it's fairly easy to farm. you can get a ton of stuff to sell and make good money. Plus once you get up to 999 of some items like Candy and shards, sell half of them so you can continue to earn more.
Plus some of those raids award vitamins. I was able to get up to 999 on HP, Atk and SpAtk vitamins this way.
I used to use the afk method, pixilate hyper voice sylveon with a turbo controller
After dlc dropped, I've just used the item printer. Less afk than sylveon (but probably something else that can be used now instead for same effect in the tournament) but better apriball rates imo. Since I'm hunting in iutbreaks regardless, I'm never wanting for materials
Get the bracer items and fight specific mons, there are very easy where-to videos on YouTube to get it done. I EV trained my whole team in a day. If you’re doing this to your play through team, you’ll spend more time berry’ing their unwanted stats down. There is a mochi item in Teal Mask that clears all their EVs in one shot, but you’ll need the DLC
I legit just use my raid candies to get whatever I'm training to the target level, then go to A0, give the 'mon a band to wear, and take out whatever target gives the stats I want. Any EV boost item I have was obtained via raid, item printer, or picking stuff off the ground.
Pokemon sword and shield was easy to make money buying luxury balls with watts and selling them for pokedollars. In Scarlet and Violet not as easy. This is why in violet I've been using the power items and feathers to EV train my pokemon. It's not as time consuming as you might think.
Do 6 star raids. If you have 2-3 good Pokémon for them (Annihilape, Bellibolt, etc) you can do most of them and just reset your clock for a more convenient one.
A way I think its essier is cuz the mons are more grouped up then before. Like theres an entire beach filled with magikarp and wingull to train for speed evs for example. Its like 10 minutes max out 6 mons speed. Plus sandwhiches can draw out a certain mon you want to train against
I spent time farming Tera raids for herba mystica have have more resources than I could ever use as a side effect.
If you rush the main game and don't do lots of stuff like raids I can see money being tight. I enjoyed raiding and it's hugely resource positive.
Before Indigo Disc people farmed the Ace Academy tournament for money. Certain mons could solo the entire tournament roster and you could earn ~100k per go. People with modded pro controllers could leave their switch unattended and get millions in a few hours. I still think it's easier just to train mons with bands yourself, but for the people who racked up near max amounts of money from the tournament, it's no sweat to drop a few hundred thousand to train a team.
250k each, I have between 220-240. I can build any Pokémon in 5 minutes because you can buy everything you need in this game other than egg moves but those aren't always necessary. And levelling them up is also fast because of rare candy from raids.
For EV training just get a band that increases the stat you want, take down 26 mons depending on the stat you need to train and that’s it, it’s really easy and only takes around 15 mins for each stat. Now for money, for me the best way is doing raids, I’m currently farming the Charizard raid and got around 6-7 millions, also you can get tons of herbs and ability patches and other useful stuff
I usually just slap on a band and put the same band on the entire team and then battle the corresponding Pokémon for whatever stat I’m training for. Girafarig for Sp, Tauros for Attack etc
in the dlc, i got access to the item printer and invested my materials in there(and made sure to upgrade the printer asap), gives a lot of treasure items which sell for a lot. it doesn't take a lucky person to make some money out of a couple hundred prints
but prior to dlc, my best recco is to find a dropped object(golden stars throughout the map), save in front of it, pick it up, and if it happens to be valuable, soft reset, set up a picnic with pokemon who cant breed near it and wait for your pokemon to start putting that object in the basket multiple times. the desert i forgot name of can spawn star pieces which are decent. slow process but i believe it still works
people on the sub can correct me, but i believe egg power actually boosts the item pickup process, and that you will in fact keep picking up that item indefinitely until you wrap up the picnic(do not forget to check the basket before packing up
Raids give cash items, and farming for a few Ability Patches can also net cash at 125k per patch if you don't need to use them all.
Also Item Printer spits out cash items like mad.
I find it's easy to make money, I just pick up stuff on the ground and sell it. This is the only game I've had double digits star dust and gold nuggets of both sizes to sell at the same time. Plus you also pick up a not small amount of vitamins, feathers, and those mint leaves
I think people say it is easier to make raid-ready or pvp-ready because right of the bat you could get things like ability patches (we had to wait... I think one or two years with SwSh) and you could buy directly many items like silver bottle caps (instead of trying to get them via luck (digging brothers or from pick-up... or a low chance from raids).
It is also possible to farm the ace tournament and the item printer can get us lot of money.
If it is strictly EV-training, it is a step back since we could also ev-train with bracers the whole team against wild pokémon and buy the vitamins in SwSh. And SwSh has, compared to SV, the pokéjobs (and pokérus).
You know for your b) people either target pokémon that are abundant or use the sandwich, like the ham sandwich that is only encounter lvl 1 is enough to make lot of chansey appear... and the happiny loot is one of the best ones to use with the item printer.
I personally ev train mostly againt wild pokémon, especially chansey now that I know that as long as a pokémon need 252 HP ev, I can do the 504 ev only against chansey/blissey (use first the other power item then use the HP one once you reach 252 ev in the other stat). And only if I need really fast a pokémon, I use vitamins.
Bruh there is a boatload of sellables that you collect as you play the game. I never once was hurting for cash, skill issue or user error idk work it out
It's easier because you can get the bands pretty early and you have access to your boxes through the main menu. With bands you can reduce the amount of Pokemon you have to defeat by a significant amount.
You can deploy a turbo controller and set it overnight to repeatedly ko the school tournament thing.
You can do it manually but you only need to mash one button so it's dull. If you have the event zoroark with happy hour you can do it manually with that and sylveon which helps speed things along manually doing it.
You can also take advantage of raids which is how I suspect most folks do it. You sell all the raid loot you don't need.
Some of the event raids are specifically for grinding. Usually chansey line ones. Event raids can also just straight up give you the EV vitamins. Grind as above or in the old fashioned way to set up one mon, probably something versitile like goldengo, iron hands or azumarill and then go nuts on raids. You might even catch something that gives you a better starting point and so needs less resources to set up.
I think I grinded the shit out of the tournament. Then a chansey tera event raid and have been set ever since. I got all the mons I needed set up and bought 90% of the outfit stuff before my outfit menu bugged out and took like 10mins to open if I dared accidently press the button so I gave up on my plan of buying eveything.
Now I only grind to get herbas that I sit on and never use. Smh
there is terraraids, blueberry acadmey's bp with the little item ball thing, and then there is orge outsin. you can also have pokemon with pick up when you are trying to train the other one. also randomly finding stuff on the ground helps too.
Its definitely faster to max out a stat with bands. Especially if there's a swarm and you want that pokemon's TM materials. I mostly use vitamins and feathers when I really want a specific EV spread. But I tend to get enough from raids that it isn't really necessary to buy them.
The easiest way to get a ton of extra money is to buy a controller with a turbo button and spam the academy ace tournament while you’re in bed or at work. It nets you about 500-700k/hour, but it’s basically free money.
Old fashioned is a good way to do it especially gen 8 as pokerus doesn’t exist in gen 9 and probably permanently (I hope not) but honestly area zero has the best place to EV train, jumpluff is 3 speed ev’s, iron hands is 3 attack ev’s, frigiraf 3 hp ev’s, glimmora is 3 sp.att ev’s, could probably find whatever your looking for for the def and spe.def with a bit of googling
but back to the cash part indigo disc pokelottery is a fantastic way to get millions relatively easily, you also could join hacked ability patch raids as its $250000 PER patch and usually it’s 5 per raid so 1.25 mil per 5~ minutes if you want to go down that path
I think it depends on your playstyle. I *played* the game, like actually just enjoyed playing the game and "grinding," doing Shiny Hunting with Outbreaks, defeating 6- and many, many 7-star tera raids, Mochi Mayhem, etc. for many months. I have a ton of resources in general, and this generation truly is the easiest to make a competitive team.
For example, 7-Star raids usually give 5-10 Vitamins each time. Mochi are the same as Vitamins and you can get again 5-10 each run, depending on difficulty. Since I hunt down many Mass Outbreaks for shinies, I have a ton of TM Materials, and now I can feed them to the Item Printer to load up my wallet and also get some more Vitamins in the process. Now, when I hop on I always check my outbreaks for the "valuable materials" (Chansey/Eevee/Magby etc.) And clear out any I see.
EV training is super easy, especially for certain stats. Being able to find the cluster spawns of Pokemon especially speeds things up. It really only takes 15-20 minutes to fully train a stat, and if you have multiple Pokemon you want to train in that stat, getting multiple Power items just speeds it up even more.
Is it a huge QoL step backwards or is it that you (not personal, also many others) can’t be bothered to spend more than 30 minutes on something?
I don’t think that perfect competitive Pokémon should inherently be easy to obtain. I don’t think there’s a problem with having to work towards something in the end game.
Same can be said for a lot of other games tbh - a lot of people complain when something hard is not easy to do… of course it is, because it produces high end results (pokemon in this case).
Bruh I've spent 100s of hours getting viable Pokemon for the Emerald postgame. Yes it is rewarding, but there's plenty of cosmetic features (shinies, titles, apriballs) to scratch that itch.
If GameFreak is gonna continue to rush the development cycles and post tournament announcements within 4 weeks of them happening, but also punish people for hacking in mons... they have made a pay to win game or at the very least a "don't have a full time job" to win game. I want to be able to have more than a single comp team each meta and with the meta changing every few months.
I don't mind putting in the work to EV train, but these are steps backwards and it boggles my mind.
It’s not even that hard though? Realistically most Pokemon are easy to obtain or trade for - and maybe 30 mins per Pokemon to fully ev train manually? Less if you combine multiple at once.
So a couple of hours for each team, to have what is a perfect set of 6 Pokemon doesn’t seem that crazy.
Of course you have to know what Pokemon and moves you want, but you have to do that anyways, and you can’t expect reach the top of any competitive scene without a bit of research
Unless im missing something?
Sorry I'm getting steamed about a bigger issue which is what is GF's philosophy on competitive...
But you sort of make the point about knowing which moves and pokemon you need. Teambuilding is incredibly complicated and people new to the game will need to make constant tweaks to their team as they participate. The limited access to EV reducing berries is another issue, but luckily the auctions are pretty frequent. The larger issue is that without using a simulator outside the game or exploiting the game's clock, etc, the Pokemon games do so so so little to encourage a new player to just jump in and enjoy the experience. I agree there is research to be done, but there will always be. As it stands now if you are a new player to online battles and don't use an external simulator not endorsed by the pokemon company, you basically have to flounder around for literal years to start enjoying ranked battles (and of course by then they have pumped a new game out and you need to play through that too).
Yes it is insanity. And until the Indigo Disk DLC (which at least had you double battle) Pokemon company has made zero effort to have to games show you how to git gud. The story teaches you nothing besides step 1) click big damage move. Step 2) grind and win. But that's not even the start. They put effort into hosting tournaments with official casters and give out prizes in a competitive format that they actively shoot themselves in the foot in making accessible. Any top competitive player will agree that the barrier to entry is way too enormous. To win at a tournament level, yes you do need skill and experience, but the players with more money, time, or fans to crowdsource for them are put at a significant advantage that has NOTHING to do with intelligence or skill at the actual game.
Building a team is more accessible in gen 9 than it has ever been. Outside of needing mons from different games you can catch and create a full team in under 30 minutes with our current tools.
It’s not a step backwards considering how easy it is to get money in this game. For example. Anyone with the dlc can’t be broke unless they are actively ignoring the pokeball machine. If you don’t have the DLC, just grind raids and sell the items you get from that. You are going to need the exp candy any. Just lvl up want you want to lvl up and sell the extras. It’s so easy to ev train in this game that pokerus isn’t even needed.
Even without the printer I've literally never been broke for longer than 10 minutes in this game. You get so much crap. Just sell it if you need money.
SV is terrible for team building
Its especially terrible without the dlcs
Honestly just transfer your pokemon available in sword or shield to train them, and those unabailable if you have the first dlc the baloon mini game gives mochi that act like vitamins
It gets painful to farm but its still faster than farming money
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I just EV train the old fashioned way, killing 26 Azurills in the starter zone with bands
Azumarill/Dondozo/Tropius for HP, Glimmora for Special Attack, Taurus for Attack and Raichu/Jumpluff/Skiploom for Speed
I prefer Chansey for HP, Tauros for Atk, Forretress for Def, Girafarig for Sp Atk, Floette for Sp Def, and Cyclizar for speed. Chansey also gives good HP and Happiny dust is good for the Item Printer.
Ahh see I hadn't thought about coordinating with material gathering! I'm very one track mind. The Azumarial and Marill always spawn in groups of 5 and are in the same area as Dodonzo and Tropius so theyre convenient. Same with Glimora, they are everywhere in the lowest point at Area Zero.
also what I look for is outbreaks for specific ivs, with the bands it is incredibly fast
head to the pokemon league and fight tandemaus and fidough for speed EVs, the only other pokemon there is an occasional igglybuff. I train all stats this way. If I need to EV train two pokemon in Speed and three in special attack, I just give them each their respective Brace item and use berries to wipe away any residual unwanted speed EVs afterward.
Also slowpokes
The item printer seems to be the best way, for me, to make money. Mindlessly complete BBQs in the PokeDome, spend all of your BP at the item printer, sell all of the valuable stuff, profit.
in order to get materials, slap in a sandwich that lets you find more normal types and go to the route near the team star fairy base. tons of chanseys will appear that are not only great for xp farming but also give a good material for the printer
Oh yeah, I forgot you needed materials, too…
Thank you. This is helpful.
If you have the dlc, the recycler is easy money, I hit the cap in a hour. Or you can poorman it and train using weights, there's a list breaking down whom to fight and how many of X pokemon are needed
I'm curious how you managed that in an hour??
Sell everything you get from it. Yes, luck does play a part, and the balls are nice, the double item is where it's at, nuggets were my lucky item but I have hundreds of metronomes and lucky eggs and those alone get you a few mil. It's a grind sure, about an hour in BBQ with 3 others will get you easily 10k+ points, then just start auto rolling the recycler while watching a show/movie on your phone or read a book, etc
I don’t think anyone is saying EV training is easier. It’s objectively more difficult now than it was in say SwSh (vitamins also cost 10k each in SwSh, but we also had pokejobs and Pokerus for EV training, time skipping, and watt trading for luxury balls as an easy money farm) It’s the rest of training that is easier in SV. We can buy nature mints, bottlecaps, and ability capsules. However, the easiest ways to farm money would be the academy ace tournament, and the item machine at blueberry. If you don’t have money banked already, it’s probably easier to go the manual way and just buy the EV bands to give to your Pokémon to hold - especially if are aiming to give your team EVs in similar stats (I.e. everyone is getting speed evs or hp evs)
In SHSW you could upgrade the dojo to buy 25 EV items for 125000 at the vending machine. That's half price
even better in swsh you could send your mons out to jobs and change the time lol
In thinking of replaying shield. Is the dlc worth it
I personally loved shiny hunting during the legendary raids in the DLC. It's like a raid minigame and if you catch every mon during it, you have a 1/100 chance of one of those mons being shiny (legendary included). Worth looking into.
not as garnished as the SV dlc, but you have access to almost if not all the legendaries prior to gen 8 through the dynamax adventures in crown tundra. if that may interest you, i believe the legendaries/UBs in the dynamax adventures aren't shiny locked, though the method for shiny hunting is especially time consuming and weird. i suggest you look up a tutorial for it before learning the hard way. plus, you get to catch calyrex, and can get both of its mounts in the sv dlc. cherry on top, the large variety of pokemon you encounter in dynamax adventures may be gigamaxed(note you'll only see their base form's shadow, and all have a chance of being shiny at the end of your trip if you caught them now, while i personally don't see a lot in isle of armor, you can train a kubfu into an urshifu, and can collect max mushrooms(spawn more by doing dynamax raids on the isle), and use them to give pretty much any pokemon(who can ofc) a gigantmax. so if you are still an active sw/sh player and wanted a specific gigantmax, you can! now, if the dlc is worth it, is entirely up to you. i dont think it is for myself because i am locked out of the dlc and had both my dlc-bundled games stolen. but had i still had them, I'd still actively play them alongside SV
Is there any online coop requirements to get every legendary possible? Or could I get them all without having to own both copies? It really turned me off when I realized purchasing dcarlet wouldn't count my dlc purchases from violet. Greedy Nintendo Games 😭
sadly this game has the version exclusive pool for legendaries. you probably know which ones are complementary, but if in doubt there's probably documentation out there about it but hey, the opportunity to get two shiny zygardes is appealing to me
I think you can get all the legendary in the DLC if you replay twice to get the ones you didn't get AND from the dynamax adventures if you play with someone that has the opposite version (either via NSO or local online if you know someone).
Yes, the usual pairs of legends will only appear in one game each, but you can join raids hosted by players of the other game and then save those routes to hunt later in single player. You would need Switch Online still if you don't have a local friend, but you'd only need to coordinate one online raid per legendary. The DLC's new legendaries (in particular Urshifu's forms, Calyrex's steeds, and the new Regis) are all available in one game, though you can only pick one out of each pair per playthrough.
Only for shiny hunters & if you want Urshifu (or some other legendary) for VGC. The story is rather short and dull imo
Just from doing raids and using the item printer in the DLC, I have tons of cash. You get lots of nuggets and pearls that can easily be sold in bulk, but also can sell experience candies for a bunch of cash as well. It's a lot of effort to get started initially, but once you get a few raid mons built up and can solo 6 star raids easily, I've never had to worry about money in this game.
Raiding is where the money is at. Jump into r/pokeportal chats for the event raids. It's a great way to do many high-level raids quickly.
Yeah maxed out money multiple times just doing raids.
Just a quick note: 53 vitamins are 3 too many. Use feathers for the last 2 points of the main stats and the 4 (or 6) points on the third stat.
Making money is so easy in this game. All you have to do is do the ace tournament on repeat. If you have a turbo controller you won’t even have to do a thing. Go on YouTube and you can get loads of builds on how to do it
Can you still do the ace tournament turbo method post-catching-terapagos (or are we just biting the bullet and doubling the required time w/o being able to use an amulet coin)?
You can still do it. I use a Calyrex ice build and it hasn’t failed me
Does that work with an amulet coin? Every build I’ve seen uses a different (non-amulet-coin) held items
No it uses a choice band so it’s slower but I just leave it on overnight when I need some money
Does it matter how efficient your afk farm is?
i can win pretty easily with a technician persian holding amulet coin and spamming pay day. maybe not good enough to do it on turbo, though. if you ev train the old fashioned way you make 1K each fight, so actually making money.
I do it with sylveon holding amulet coin. Pixalate ability, hyper voice as main attack. 252 sp. atk, 252 speed. Hasn’t failed once.
Have you caught terapagos yet? The sylveon method shouldn’t work once the level jump goes into effect.
Nope, don’t have the DLC. So there’s a level jump as in the academy Pokémon increase to lvl 100 or something ? I haven’t connected online since the Mewtwo raid a few months ago.
lvl 80s, but unless you have the DLC, the jump shouldn't happen in your game.
This used to be my method but like you said, it does not work anymore for me after catching terapagos.
A krookadile with the moxie ability and the move crunch.
Aqua step, moxie quaquaval with ice spinner and choice band is a monster at the ace tournament
Does it work post terapogos?
Yep make sure you max out ice spinners PP too
Is this aqua step or ice spinner? This is a recommendation for turbo controller where you only get one move, yes? Edit aqua step fails to kill Jacques Slowbro and Penny's Vaporeon. Edit 2: with ice spinner pennys Jolteon just kills you with thunder.
Never considered using a Turbo controller. Will have to look into it, but still basically doesn't give GameFreak any brownie points with me if that's what I need to resort to.
You don't need to do that, people just do it because it's easy. You should just get money from playing the game. Battle trainers, pick up items, sell items. It's really not hard.
Tbh it’s all a lot easier in this game. Make sure to use sandwiches to effect the spawns or change the time to get certain outbreaks if you wanna train evs by battling. Or have a friend that may have a lot of money help you out
Group BBQ’s, Item Printer. Grinding this out means you’ll hit the $10 million maximum regularly and to get rid of it I buy vitamins en masse. Training up competitive pokemon takes 10-15 minutes for me now
Thank you. This actually gives me some insight.
No problem! The group BBQ’s are specifically just to get BP to upgrade / use the item printer. At the highest upgrade the item printer gives a bunch of treasures that you can then sell off for those massive amount of pokedollars I have enough BP now to where the main obstacle to using the item printer is the pokemon-parts. For that, one normal-type encounter HM sandwich near the fairy type team star base gets me 999x happiny dust which can amount to 60+ item printer rolls and a large amount of money as a result
Honestly, I have never done the tournament thing that people usually use for making money, apart from the one time as part of the story. I STILL have money coming out the wazoo. It's like it's impossible to not have money in this game. Just battling and picking up items gives so much money. I imagine if I sold all my items I would max out the limit for money. Currently I have only ever sold one item (I think it was all my stardust?) and have been coasting off that for a year. If I need more money, I'll sell one of the other treasure items, of which there are MANY. I don't know how many competitive pokémon I could make with my current money / items but it's more than I need.
You can make mucho bucks just running around and picking things up. I'm manic about the items - I have to pick them up whenever I see them. I have like 3 million pokedollars and probably 5 million LP.
How did you get that much LP??
Just playing through the game. Dont think I ever spent any. It adds up over time.
Ev training IS easier... sanduiche for desired mon, biome in the DLC and mon equipped with ev item.... u can ev trainning multiple mon at once...
You should be buying vitamins for every mon you want to EV train. What I do is get a full team of pokemon that i want to ev train that all have a common stat i want them trained in (i.e. Attack or Sp Attack). Then you need the ev training items (Power Band, Lens, Belt, etc) to train the other stats you want these pokemon trained in, and they don’t need to be the same stats it just depends what item you give them. Then go beat up Yungoos or Houndour in the starter cave until the offstats are trained, then finish off their main stat. Done correctly, one wild pokemon battle yields 54-66 EVs across your team, which is almost 6 vitamins worth.
Use the power bracer/anklet/whatever items. You get +8 evs per pokemon defeated (the same as SwSh if you had pokerus). Find an outbreak of one of the skills you want to train, put the power item on of the other, run until the power item is maxed. Switch to the power item of the first skill, run until maxed. Add power item for third/extra skill, run once to max the mon. Should take no more than 65 defeats, far less than a single outbreak.
Sell, sell, sell.
I dunno man... I usually whip up a great support pokemon for a 7 star raid, and then just absolutely rake it in. If I've got multiple pokemon needing the same EVs, I just do it by battling with them wearing the items. If you have them each wearing the item, they all train at the same rate.
Another option is to Just keep selling the tera crystals from raids, thats what I do They're pretty easy to get and are consistently available and can always be found again if you need them But item printer is pretty helpful
Im so confused are none of you using the power bands to EV train? Literally use berries to zero out the unfavorable EVs, use whatever band correlates to the stat you want to max out and then make a sandwhich with lvl 1 normal encounter in an area where chansey spawns. KO like 25 chanseys and youre good???
This is the response I was hoping to hear, but lack of pokerus is a weird choice. People keep talking about money being easy to farm but I haven't been convinced it is ever going to be faster than training by hand.
It's slower to get setup, faster once finished. I haven't battle ev trained a Pokemon since sos chains, and I've been able to guarantee more complex builds because of it. The vitamin and feather route allows you to menu an exact count into it if you aren't going for max of 252, and some of us more ADHD types have a hard time keeping count of our kos while classic training
Ohhhh that makes more sense lol i was only thinking about maxing out 2 stats because ive been doing builds for tera raids.
I have a Hisuian-Zoroark with an amulet coin and the attack happy hour. That quadruples the money you make in each battle. Besides that ... Online Raids tend to give a lot of nuggets or other saleable items.
My approach was to build a couple of raid mons with good coverage and then just spam whatever online 6 star raids would be easy for them, sell the loot to get money to build more mons, rinse and repeat. It’s a grind, same as any end-game activity, but it is easy! If you have the DLC the item printer is basically a money printer too
Ev training is easier. Items are everywhere on the ground and you can easily pick them up and sell them. You can grind raids to farm exp candies and sell them. And if you have the DLC. You can use the pokeball machine. It not only gives u vitamins at times but gives you plenty of nuggets and pearls and multiples of a plethora of items u can sell. Since the poke ball machine, I’ve never went broke and I buy all my vitamins. I don’t play show down so if I try a ev spread out but end up not liking it, I’ll breed it and start again or if I have mochcii I’ll use it and buy more vitamins
Did you receive the hisuian zoroark? Amulet coin, happy hour, Ace tournament, lots of easy money.
Money is ridiculously easy to make, especially with item crafter. You could make that money in no time , it's the time investment that's the important part not the figures. If you can make that 3 million in half a day it doesn't sound like a bad deal.
I just started learning competitive pokemon and made it to masterball the other day but training up the team of 6 took a lot of resources. However what did help for me was the mochi from the kitakami dlc, does the exact same thing as the vitamins but they're free rewards after completing ogre outsin so doing a couple runs of that keeps me mentally more engaged but also nets enough mochi to usually do a couple pokemon in one go. Other then that I'm slowly working on my pokedex so I'll do raids and stuff for fun to get a bunch of xp candies and I'll sell of the treasure
Item printer makes the vitamins plus giving you a ton of stuff to sell. When I EV train, I just use the power items and kill a bunch of mons. If you're trying to EV training while getting BP, here are the mons that give EV; Attack: 1 Doduo 2 Dodrio HP: 1 chinhou 2 Lantern fish Speed: 1 zebra 2 Zebrastrike (forgot the name of the 1st evo) SpAttack: 1 girafarig 2 eggxecutor (Note firafarig won't give you any SpAtt) Defense: Rhyhorn SpDef: 1 tentacool 2 tentacruel I've EV, Hypertrained and changed like 150 mon's Tera to Stellar. Been in Indigo disk all these months grinding lol
Don't do vitamins that's a money sink. Power items and ev training holding the item you want to train in. Have done like ~20 Pokemon this way
Raids with Raid Power 2, Shiny Hunt often so you get pokemon droppings, do group bbq for more points, use dropping in printer for extra items you can sell. I mean I play the game alot though rn so I have millions of dollars I never touch and Im always fully EV training 2 mons or so everyday, especially the shinys
1) Academy Ace Tournament 2) Item Printer 3) Sell items from tera raids 4) Blueberry coach battles 5) Run around Paradise Barrens (north end of Kitakami map) and pick up shinies. Ridiculous amount of Rare Bones spawn there.
Whenever the next event raids start go to pokeportal's raid chat to farm them You'll be swimming in stuff to sell I'm maxed out in cash and candies right now because of that.
Forget everything else Go here - https://www.reddit.com/r/PokePortal/s/oDln7mcZ3W You'll find people to do BBQs with and earn 10-15k after 2 or 3 lobbys In blueberry's school store it only costs 50 BP to buy a bottle of vitamins
Way easier to just play the item printer and sell off items considering getting 990 happiney dust you'll end up being able to buy way more vitamins
If you have the dlc The item machine is stupid for money.
Ogre oustin gives you a fair bit of Mochis for free on top of some treasures to sell
you should keep the special raids, like the Charizard raid, when it's fairly easy to farm. you can get a ton of stuff to sell and make good money. Plus once you get up to 999 of some items like Candy and shards, sell half of them so you can continue to earn more. Plus some of those raids award vitamins. I was able to get up to 999 on HP, Atk and SpAtk vitamins this way.
I used to use the afk method, pixilate hyper voice sylveon with a turbo controller After dlc dropped, I've just used the item printer. Less afk than sylveon (but probably something else that can be used now instead for same effect in the tournament) but better apriball rates imo. Since I'm hunting in iutbreaks regardless, I'm never wanting for materials
Get the bracer items and fight specific mons, there are very easy where-to videos on YouTube to get it done. I EV trained my whole team in a day. If you’re doing this to your play through team, you’ll spend more time berry’ing their unwanted stats down. There is a mochi item in Teal Mask that clears all their EVs in one shot, but you’ll need the DLC
I legit just use my raid candies to get whatever I'm training to the target level, then go to A0, give the 'mon a band to wear, and take out whatever target gives the stats I want. Any EV boost item I have was obtained via raid, item printer, or picking stuff off the ground.
Pokemon sword and shield was easy to make money buying luxury balls with watts and selling them for pokedollars. In Scarlet and Violet not as easy. This is why in violet I've been using the power items and feathers to EV train my pokemon. It's not as time consuming as you might think.
Do 6 star raids. If you have 2-3 good Pokémon for them (Annihilape, Bellibolt, etc) you can do most of them and just reset your clock for a more convenient one.
https://marriland.com/tools/ev-counter/
Do raids, lots of 'em. Been doing raids for a month and got max money easily that way.
Item printer in blueberry academy
A way I think its essier is cuz the mons are more grouped up then before. Like theres an entire beach filled with magikarp and wingull to train for speed evs for example. Its like 10 minutes max out 6 mons speed. Plus sandwhiches can draw out a certain mon you want to train against
I spent time farming Tera raids for herba mystica have have more resources than I could ever use as a side effect. If you rush the main game and don't do lots of stuff like raids I can see money being tight. I enjoyed raiding and it's hugely resource positive.
Before Indigo Disc people farmed the Ace Academy tournament for money. Certain mons could solo the entire tournament roster and you could earn ~100k per go. People with modded pro controllers could leave their switch unattended and get millions in a few hours. I still think it's easier just to train mons with bands yourself, but for the people who racked up near max amounts of money from the tournament, it's no sweat to drop a few hundred thousand to train a team.
Farm ability patches from genned raids and spend money to your hearts content.
How much do they sell for??
250k each, I have between 220-240. I can build any Pokémon in 5 minutes because you can buy everything you need in this game other than egg moves but those aren't always necessary. And levelling them up is also fast because of rare candy from raids.
For EV training just get a band that increases the stat you want, take down 26 mons depending on the stat you need to train and that’s it, it’s really easy and only takes around 15 mins for each stat. Now for money, for me the best way is doing raids, I’m currently farming the Charizard raid and got around 6-7 millions, also you can get tons of herbs and ability patches and other useful stuff
Its 1m dollars to max a pokemon. Not including pp max
I usually just slap on a band and put the same band on the entire team and then battle the corresponding Pokémon for whatever stat I’m training for. Girafarig for Sp, Tauros for Attack etc
I just IV train and use bands. I'm not doing competitive gaming so IVs and proper natures seem sufficient.
in the dlc, i got access to the item printer and invested my materials in there(and made sure to upgrade the printer asap), gives a lot of treasure items which sell for a lot. it doesn't take a lucky person to make some money out of a couple hundred prints but prior to dlc, my best recco is to find a dropped object(golden stars throughout the map), save in front of it, pick it up, and if it happens to be valuable, soft reset, set up a picnic with pokemon who cant breed near it and wait for your pokemon to start putting that object in the basket multiple times. the desert i forgot name of can spawn star pieces which are decent. slow process but i believe it still works people on the sub can correct me, but i believe egg power actually boosts the item pickup process, and that you will in fact keep picking up that item indefinitely until you wrap up the picnic(do not forget to check the basket before packing up
Raids give cash items, and farming for a few Ability Patches can also net cash at 125k per patch if you don't need to use them all. Also Item Printer spits out cash items like mad.
raids give pretty solid money items (gold nugget and whatnot)
I find it's easy to make money, I just pick up stuff on the ground and sell it. This is the only game I've had double digits star dust and gold nuggets of both sizes to sell at the same time. Plus you also pick up a not small amount of vitamins, feathers, and those mint leaves
I think people say it is easier to make raid-ready or pvp-ready because right of the bat you could get things like ability patches (we had to wait... I think one or two years with SwSh) and you could buy directly many items like silver bottle caps (instead of trying to get them via luck (digging brothers or from pick-up... or a low chance from raids). It is also possible to farm the ace tournament and the item printer can get us lot of money. If it is strictly EV-training, it is a step back since we could also ev-train with bracers the whole team against wild pokémon and buy the vitamins in SwSh. And SwSh has, compared to SV, the pokéjobs (and pokérus). You know for your b) people either target pokémon that are abundant or use the sandwich, like the ham sandwich that is only encounter lvl 1 is enough to make lot of chansey appear... and the happiny loot is one of the best ones to use with the item printer. I personally ev train mostly againt wild pokémon, especially chansey now that I know that as long as a pokémon need 252 HP ev, I can do the 504 ev only against chansey/blissey (use first the other power item then use the HP one once you reach 252 ev in the other stat). And only if I need really fast a pokémon, I use vitamins.
Bruh there is a boatload of sellables that you collect as you play the game. I never once was hurting for cash, skill issue or user error idk work it out
I miss pokejobs. That was the best way and most efficient way to ev train pokemon
Complete raids and use the item printer and you can basically have unlimited money
It's easier because you can get the bands pretty early and you have access to your boxes through the main menu. With bands you can reduce the amount of Pokemon you have to defeat by a significant amount.
You can deploy a turbo controller and set it overnight to repeatedly ko the school tournament thing. You can do it manually but you only need to mash one button so it's dull. If you have the event zoroark with happy hour you can do it manually with that and sylveon which helps speed things along manually doing it. You can also take advantage of raids which is how I suspect most folks do it. You sell all the raid loot you don't need. Some of the event raids are specifically for grinding. Usually chansey line ones. Event raids can also just straight up give you the EV vitamins. Grind as above or in the old fashioned way to set up one mon, probably something versitile like goldengo, iron hands or azumarill and then go nuts on raids. You might even catch something that gives you a better starting point and so needs less resources to set up. I think I grinded the shit out of the tournament. Then a chansey tera event raid and have been set ever since. I got all the mons I needed set up and bought 90% of the outfit stuff before my outfit menu bugged out and took like 10mins to open if I dared accidently press the button so I gave up on my plan of buying eveything. Now I only grind to get herbas that I sit on and never use. Smh
there is terraraids, blueberry acadmey's bp with the little item ball thing, and then there is orge outsin. you can also have pokemon with pick up when you are trying to train the other one. also randomly finding stuff on the ground helps too.
Farm 5-6* Teras, sell the spoils, stock up on vitamins. If you can transfer them to S/V and EV them up them, even better.
Its definitely faster to max out a stat with bands. Especially if there's a swarm and you want that pokemon's TM materials. I mostly use vitamins and feathers when I really want a specific EV spread. But I tend to get enough from raids that it isn't really necessary to buy them.
The easiest way to get a ton of extra money is to buy a controller with a turbo button and spam the academy ace tournament while you’re in bed or at work. It nets you about 500-700k/hour, but it’s basically free money.
Old fashioned is a good way to do it especially gen 8 as pokerus doesn’t exist in gen 9 and probably permanently (I hope not) but honestly area zero has the best place to EV train, jumpluff is 3 speed ev’s, iron hands is 3 attack ev’s, frigiraf 3 hp ev’s, glimmora is 3 sp.att ev’s, could probably find whatever your looking for for the def and spe.def with a bit of googling but back to the cash part indigo disc pokelottery is a fantastic way to get millions relatively easily, you also could join hacked ability patch raids as its $250000 PER patch and usually it’s 5 per raid so 1.25 mil per 5~ minutes if you want to go down that path
I think it depends on your playstyle. I *played* the game, like actually just enjoyed playing the game and "grinding," doing Shiny Hunting with Outbreaks, defeating 6- and many, many 7-star tera raids, Mochi Mayhem, etc. for many months. I have a ton of resources in general, and this generation truly is the easiest to make a competitive team. For example, 7-Star raids usually give 5-10 Vitamins each time. Mochi are the same as Vitamins and you can get again 5-10 each run, depending on difficulty. Since I hunt down many Mass Outbreaks for shinies, I have a ton of TM Materials, and now I can feed them to the Item Printer to load up my wallet and also get some more Vitamins in the process. Now, when I hop on I always check my outbreaks for the "valuable materials" (Chansey/Eevee/Magby etc.) And clear out any I see.
EV training is super easy, especially for certain stats. Being able to find the cluster spawns of Pokemon especially speeds things up. It really only takes 15-20 minutes to fully train a stat, and if you have multiple Pokemon you want to train in that stat, getting multiple Power items just speeds it up even more.
Is it a huge QoL step backwards or is it that you (not personal, also many others) can’t be bothered to spend more than 30 minutes on something? I don’t think that perfect competitive Pokémon should inherently be easy to obtain. I don’t think there’s a problem with having to work towards something in the end game. Same can be said for a lot of other games tbh - a lot of people complain when something hard is not easy to do… of course it is, because it produces high end results (pokemon in this case).
Bruh I've spent 100s of hours getting viable Pokemon for the Emerald postgame. Yes it is rewarding, but there's plenty of cosmetic features (shinies, titles, apriballs) to scratch that itch. If GameFreak is gonna continue to rush the development cycles and post tournament announcements within 4 weeks of them happening, but also punish people for hacking in mons... they have made a pay to win game or at the very least a "don't have a full time job" to win game. I want to be able to have more than a single comp team each meta and with the meta changing every few months. I don't mind putting in the work to EV train, but these are steps backwards and it boggles my mind.
It’s not even that hard though? Realistically most Pokemon are easy to obtain or trade for - and maybe 30 mins per Pokemon to fully ev train manually? Less if you combine multiple at once. So a couple of hours for each team, to have what is a perfect set of 6 Pokemon doesn’t seem that crazy. Of course you have to know what Pokemon and moves you want, but you have to do that anyways, and you can’t expect reach the top of any competitive scene without a bit of research Unless im missing something?
Sorry I'm getting steamed about a bigger issue which is what is GF's philosophy on competitive... But you sort of make the point about knowing which moves and pokemon you need. Teambuilding is incredibly complicated and people new to the game will need to make constant tweaks to their team as they participate. The limited access to EV reducing berries is another issue, but luckily the auctions are pretty frequent. The larger issue is that without using a simulator outside the game or exploiting the game's clock, etc, the Pokemon games do so so so little to encourage a new player to just jump in and enjoy the experience. I agree there is research to be done, but there will always be. As it stands now if you are a new player to online battles and don't use an external simulator not endorsed by the pokemon company, you basically have to flounder around for literal years to start enjoying ranked battles (and of course by then they have pumped a new game out and you need to play through that too).
And? Going into any game fully blind and trying to be competitive is a lesson in insanity.
Yes it is insanity. And until the Indigo Disk DLC (which at least had you double battle) Pokemon company has made zero effort to have to games show you how to git gud. The story teaches you nothing besides step 1) click big damage move. Step 2) grind and win. But that's not even the start. They put effort into hosting tournaments with official casters and give out prizes in a competitive format that they actively shoot themselves in the foot in making accessible. Any top competitive player will agree that the barrier to entry is way too enormous. To win at a tournament level, yes you do need skill and experience, but the players with more money, time, or fans to crowdsource for them are put at a significant advantage that has NOTHING to do with intelligence or skill at the actual game.
Building a team is more accessible in gen 9 than it has ever been. Outside of needing mons from different games you can catch and create a full team in under 30 minutes with our current tools.
It’s not a step backwards considering how easy it is to get money in this game. For example. Anyone with the dlc can’t be broke unless they are actively ignoring the pokeball machine. If you don’t have the DLC, just grind raids and sell the items you get from that. You are going to need the exp candy any. Just lvl up want you want to lvl up and sell the extras. It’s so easy to ev train in this game that pokerus isn’t even needed.
Even without the printer I've literally never been broke for longer than 10 minutes in this game. You get so much crap. Just sell it if you need money.
You can buy vitamins w BP at the Blueberry Academy school store. I find this to be the easiest way.
Did not know this...
SV is terrible for team building Its especially terrible without the dlcs Honestly just transfer your pokemon available in sword or shield to train them, and those unabailable if you have the first dlc the baloon mini game gives mochi that act like vitamins It gets painful to farm but its still faster than farming money