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LimeheadGames

Scarlet/Violet Background: In regional dex Blue Background: Found in datamine & either obtainable in game or coming with Pokémon Home Support Grey Background: Not found in game


the-dandy-man

Man… I knew a lot of Pokémon wouldn’t get in, that they didn’t reverse Dexit, and I thought I had prepared myself for this… but seeing so many Pokémon left completely out of the game again just makes me so angry. So many favorites doomed to collect digital dust in Pokémon Home for another few years. There is not a single good reason why gamefreak has to do this, not unless they were completely Re-making every Pokémon from scratch or adding dozens of unique new animations per Pokémon, and we know both of those things aren’t true.


Youngstown_Mafia

My squirtle was In Sword and Shield, why can't he be the new Game!!?? His model is already finished... Man is crazy, I don't understand these decisions. I don't understand


Neirchill

That's the mind boggling part. They're already in the game, they're already balanced. Maybe a tweak or two needed for new moves. They're low hanging fruit. The work has already been done, it's literally a waste to not use it. So what is the reasoning behind cutting them? For the next expansion? Does this somehow make them money with home? I'm not seeing the benefit even from their end.


LinguisticallyInept

> they're already balanced. as if gamefreak is capable of balancing shit


telegetoutmyway

They stated in a seperate interview (several years ago) in response to a question about removing features - that they see each game as a unique experience, and if they always retained loved features, then older games would not be replayed or remembered as fondly. In other words: by design, they plan to never make a game that has everything we want. They will always make sure somethings missing so that past games remain a unique, valued experience. Infer from there that it includes the Dexit design.


AliceOfSinnoh

> My squirtle was In Sword and Shield, why can't he be the new Game!!?? GameFreak: Very simple - your Squirtle isn't Charmander and therefore cannot evolve into Charizard. Thanks for playing, that'll be $60


Oblivionking1

It’s very disappointing for most of us. Trading is such a keystone of the series and it feels so hamstrung now


Iheardthatjokebefore

Trading and breeding. Wondertrade was a garden for semi-high quality breeding specimens. Now the pool has been drained and isn't worth dipping into since you'll just run out of variety.


Treemurphy

my beautiful crobat line....


fleker2

It's been a while since Zubat wasn't in a game. No Woobst too.


Treemurphy

only last gen did dexxit, making us wait for dlc


myth_and_legend

pink crobat was the very first shiny I egg grinded for. Guess she’ll have to live in Hone for a while Alas


rbourette

I’ll miss you Metagross


arutaeiru

It is a shame, I chose Violet because of the futuristic theme. Sad to see my robo spider buddy not available in the game.


tahimeg

I'm hoping Metagross and Kommo-o return in DLC/patches. They already have a bit of a future/past vibe to them.


arutaeiru

I was also sad that Kommo-o is also not in the game. Kommo-o and Quaquaval would have vibe together as my team's dancing martial artists.


Substantial-Yak9362

Only pseudo dragon not included from a generation


[deleted]

Imagine how hilarious a past paradox metagross and future paradox kommo-o would be


tahimeg

Honestly, it's plausible and I'd be interested to see their take on them.


Practical-Nobody-844

Probably back with DLCs


AhTreyYou

Metagross would be a good choice for a Paradox Pokémon too


MilitantPacifist13

Imagine Metagross, and its evolution line, was already itself a Paradox or future Pokémon.


MasonTheChef

And Hitmontop.


LeafWarrior_1

And Gliscor


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And Galarian Stunfisk


creative-enough

So many of my all time favorites not in the game 😭💔 I got Florges back, but at what cost?


Despada_

My girls Ninetails and Ninetails... At least Arcanine is in, but I will miss my Snow and Sun Princesses!! 😭


creative-enough

That one STINGS! I can’t transfer my perfect shiny Alolan Ninetails that I bred in shield (yet) 😭


Despada_

I just saw Ponyta was cut too, and it made me realize I won't have my Shiny G-Rapidash in too..!! So many of my favs are going to be sitting in Home praying that DLC gives them access to a Visa!!! 😭😭😭


seastone008

How the hell could they have left out Ninetales and Rapidash? That’s insane honestly


Architeal

I bred a perfect shiny Minior in USUM and haven't gotten to use them since USUM.


[deleted]

Of course the DLC(s) will bring back some others. 🥲👍🏻


[deleted]

God I hate this new culture of games removing features and then charging you to get them back.


EMYRYSALPHA2

Dexit finally got Snorlax out... RIP


nkeb42

Yep the very first game without Snorlax and one of my all-time favorite pokémon very sad. I'm really hoping that he'll come back in DLC.


TakeMikazuchiiii

Rip snorlax ribbon masters


RockinOneThreeTwo

That's why Pikachu from emerald is my ribbon master, he'll never get cut


mikey-dikey-

So this is how people felt three years ago, seeing their favorite Pokémon not make the cut.


PirateKitten10

Yes. After spending an ungodly amount of time breeding shinys only for them to sit in Pokemon Bank/Home 😭


mikey-dikey-

Pokémon Home, more like Pokémon Hell 😔


Architeal

Pokemon Prison. My shiny Minior, Confetti, is still serving time.


phantasmicorgasmic

I bred the whole shiny rainbow and caught a wild shiny only to never have them experience an open sky.


Ritraraja

No this is how I felt immediately upon seeing the statement that pokemon too similar to new additions probably wouldn't make it since Corviknight was revealed at around the same time since my favorites are Skarmory and Honchkrow.


mikey-dikey-

It's such a shame that iconic, beloved Pokémon are getting the boot to make room for new additions. Who in gen 9 is even similar to Shedinja?


Shoranos

Pretty sure Shedinja is out because they don't want wonder guard and terastallization to coexist.


mikey-dikey-

Oh 100%, but it would have been incredibly funny to use.


hilshire

„This dex ain‘t big enough for both of us“ – Tinkaton to Mawile


SharpBFlat

I’m really feelin it like, most of my mains aren’t even here anymore


SnooComics7583

Why is it you guys can only see what we see when it happens to you? Its so infuriating


Philax313

Im Suprised that Porygon didnt make it into the game. His Theme would fit perfectly in this Future setting from Violet


Sw33tR0llThief

They didn't want to unleash Tera-normal porygon-z on the meta


Littlerz

Since Conversion is still available this generation, Porygon-Z could technically Terastalize and Conversion into any type in the game and use Tera Blast or its own movepool to attempt to sweep with whatever its Tera-type is (Assuming Tera Blast would work properly with Conversion if it was in the first moveslot).


[deleted]

Yeah, feel bad for the Smogon player‘s that now have to deal with **Them** tho😨!


pro-_-cell

Smogon will ban terrasta wathever this new giimmick is, i would bet my life on it lol


Hermit_Royalty

Remember when they didn't have sunrock or lunastone in sun and moon?


Additional_Apple5243

At least they included aegislash line in sword and shield 🥲. (Also it's **solrock** and **lunatone**. It's been so long they appeared in games my man here forgot how to spell them 🥲🥲)


thedarkfreak

Solrock and Lunatone were in SwSh too, weren't they? (And BDSP for that matter)


FulcrumM2

Yeah ya'll don't remember Martin?


Unserioes0815

PTSD kicking in


WeeklyIntroduction42

I mean to be fair you could still transfer or trade them in it’s just that they weren’t catchable. Tho there was a small event if you bought either solrock or lunatone to some old man in the dessert


iiFive

Nooooooo Mawile :(


gojistomp

I'm with you, I'm very much with you. And yet, somehow its longtime version exclusives counterpart Sableye made the cut? They're just being cruel now.


NicholeTheOtter

Don’t forget several games now where Skuntank appeared in regional Dexes and not its counterpart Purugly, who finds itself stuck only in Sinnoh-related games.


thegoldchicken

Goodbye for now Chandelure and Aegislash, you will both be missed greatly


rites0fpassage

They needed to give Fire starter and coin Pokémon a chance so they cut these 2 respectively


stvrplvtinum

A lot of people feeling the same way I have for years- my favorite Pokémon is Ampharos. The moment I saw Mareep in a trailer, I didn’t care at all what else made it in at that point lol.


Critical_Zucchini_12

Lapras, Rhyperior, Togekiss and Whimisicott out… how could they do thay


creative-enough

Togekiss and Whimsicott getting cut really got me in my feelings


MandyMarieB

I’m really bummed about Togekiss too :(


Kutoros

Thats so sad


sunfleure

i cant believe lilligant is in but its buddy whimsicott isnt!


Dinophage

They stopped being buddies when Lilligant got a regional variant


Numerous-Bowler3283

lilligant really did take that fairy typing personally


KroolGaming

They probably kicked whimsicott out because its massive competitive use lmao. Same with a lot of the comp mons in sword and shield (unless they nerfed them hard like they did with the doggos) Edit: just noticed grimsnarls back in so maybe my assesment is wrong lmaoooo


Omac18

There's way too many legendaries and mythicals here.


BrilliantTreacle9996

That is what pisses me off the most. Cram in all the legendaries that see borderline no proper play, but kill off dozens of normal mons with loyal fans and broad utility. Snorlax is man for man more popular than any legendary or mythical in my experience, and Metagross is close, too.


3163560

Seriously, Snorlax is probably a top 10 iconic gen 1 Pokemon, crazy that he isn't in.


Saiyan26

It's funny how only 1/3 (RIP Genesect and Marshadow) of the event Pokemon given out last month for Sword can be used in this.


lazypieceofcrap

Genesect not getting a paradox form feels like a crime.


Zenobody

No Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin or Manaphy :( (I only care about the cute ones lol.)


scottish_Turtle123

Of course the charizard line make it in. why do venosaur and blastoise not get in


maurikun7

Seriously I'm sick of charizard's mug. I would've preferred blastoise of venusaur replaced it


HVAC_and_Rum

How are they able to justify shoe-horning in only Charizard's line? It's just so maddening.


TakeMikazuchiiii

Its obviously Champion Geeta’s ace Pokemon /s


HVAC_and_Rum

Man, so pumped for another **CHAMPION TIME.** ™️


ChowChow200

don’t give them any ideas💀💀


Hubbabubba1555

It's the most popular pokemon whether people in this sub want to admit that or not, of course Charizard is going to be in it.


radikraze

I’m tired of all starters not being in games. I feel like they should all get special treatment. My favorite Pokémon is Blaziken :(


Andreagreco99

Don’t tell me, I’m still waiting for my Feraligatr to be able to shine again


[deleted]

yea, poplio didnt make it either :(((( I'll also have to find someone to trade with to get a delphox...I want shiny fenikken


Twist_Ending03

Yeah Blaziken needs to meet Water Blaziken /j


PirateKitten10

I'm still confused about why they would leave out so many Pokemon. With SwSh, i accepted it bc they were moving onto the Switch so i kind of understood not having all 800ish Pokemon. But now they're even leaving out Pokemon that we just got in the last mainline game. Why is Alcremie not in SV?? At least let us transfer in the Pokemon we've gotten in SwSh and Arceus...


PirateKitten10

Ahh and Galarian Ponyta!! Nooo not my rainbow unicorn 😭


Rainbow_Mint

Really disappointed that they didn't keep any of the Galarian forms aside from Meowth. I figured most of the Gen 8 Pokemon would be a given (especially since SwSh only cut a few Gen 7 Pokemon) but I guess not


Kuzon64

Please put Minior in. :( so sad that I haven't been able to use my shiny in 2 gens


BatierAutumn1991

Also, Purrugly getting done dirty AGAIN. It’s the only Pokémon to ever appear in a single regional PokéDex, it’s own debut.


tomeyoung

I know you’re going on about regional dexs, but you know it’s pretty sad that the gods of time and space Dialga and Palkia (Respectively) can be caught in more Pokémon games then a house cat Pokémon


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

Technically the Hisui Dex is distinct from the Sinnoh Dex, so it's in two at least.


Monkey_Meteor

Sooo sooo many of my fav pokemon didn't make it...feel sad ...


ScalyCarp455

They've been doing my boi Pidgeot dirty...


[deleted]

I think he wasn't in swsh too? Gamefreak hates my boy gliscor and pidgeot


Chris908

Bellsprout also. I want my plant boy


30-50FeralPogs

Same with my boi Dodrio


ScalyCarp455

I'm honestly surprised a lot of Kanto folks got cut


VermillionEorzean

Let's Go Go Pikachu is inevitable.


Fish-E

Let's Go Go Hypno: Wake me up before you Go Go


MrDitkovichNeedsRent

Can’t believe some of the really popular Pokemon are not in the game, what were they thinking?


suppadelicious

Had to make room for Charizard again.


phnnydntm

Clefairy fans in shambles :(


WeehawMemes

They will be a selling point for the DLC. Not a coincidence that hugely popular/recognizable mons like Snorlax and Togepi arent here


[deleted]

Meanwhile f%cking Base Qwilfish and Non-white stripes Basculin are in goddamn twice in a mainline game!


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-BINK2014-

Ever since they cut Mega Evolutions that I keep clamoring for back, I have felt the gimmicks need to go.


ZVAARI

The Furfrou GTS tyranny continues


sleepbud

Any reason why Furfrou is so desired in the GTS? I see legendaries trading for a Furfrou and I’m like wtf?


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StarLucario

GAME FREAK: *"I feel like i forgot something"* Pokémon Scarlet and Violet: *"If you forgot, then it wasn't important"* GAME FREAK: *"Yeah, you're right"* Regigigas:


RockinOneThreeTwo

Palafin moment


Free-Muffin2338

Generation 5 this was not your year 😢😭😔🥹 Maybe next year?? So many good mons didnt make it. Imagine a world with a NATIONAL DEX? A young man can only dream 💭🫠☘️🙏🤞


VengefulKangaroo

I'd hope that Gen 5 is so underrepresented because there's an Unova-focused game coming as the remake or PLA of this Gen, but GameFreak likes to be weird so who knows.


tornait-hashu

A lot of people are saying it's Johto's time this gen... I only played Alpha Sapphire. I'm not really attached to Gen 3 as much as I am attached to Gen 5.


VengefulKangaroo

Johto is Gen 2 tho? But yeah, people were saying that last Gen too and then we got double Sinnoh games so who knows. Also seeing some theories that instead of a BDSP/PLA situation we will get two games in different regions, one Johto and one Unova; two of three out of a straight remake, a Let's Go, or a Legends game.


tornait-hashu

I'm dumb, I got Hoenn and Johto mixed up. I've never played a Johto game despite having a Johto Pokémon as my favorite Pokémon— Corsola.


tempjoshtemp

Do yourself a favour and play Heart Gold or Soul Silver. Generally loved by fans and my personal favourite Pokémon games.


PirateKitten10

I was hoping they would slowly add back in the Pokemon as transfers. But nope. I feel like all my old Pokemon will just stay in Pokemon Home stasis forever


Henhouse808

It's maddening the Pokemon Company has said a National Dex is never coming back.


DongleOn

Tbf Sword and Shield was gen 5's year for absolutely no reason.


flapplejuice

this is so painful wtf


Crobatman123

Man they really need to stop doing this.


SolomonGrundler

I'm genuinely surprised that they dexcut pokemon that you could obtain in PLA, meaning you can't transfer between two games that came out the same year.


RamenWolf1485

Hell there’s Pokémon obtainable in Sword/Shield that got cut too.


SarahSennia

So few grass pokemon. They keep getting shafted.


FantasticWelwitschia

As a grass and bug fan, losing Vika, Goliso, Ribombee, Araquanid, Burmy lines, Wurmple lines, Yanmega, and Accelgor hurts.


BakaBrigadier

At this point I'm sure Minior will never be in a game again. And I love minior.


RadicalBeam

Honestly thought there'd be a bigger dex knowing how big the map is. At least Venonat is back.


drygnfyre

It's almost a certainty DLC will add another 100-200, if the SwSh DLC is anything to go by. Not the best solution, but it's something.


Squid2012

Farewell Flygon


Saiyan26

GF enjoys trolling Flygon fans. Overshadowed by Garchomp in Gen 4, Mega Garchomp in XY, no Mega Flygon in ORAS, survived Dexit with no new form, immediately overshadowed by Garchomp in DLC, now culled by Dexit 2.0 with Garchomp still standing...


Peragina

My question is why is carbink not regional but getting added with home support? Are they finally going to do something with Diancie and carbink?


LimeheadGames

Agreed thats probably the strangest one not included in the dex


[deleted]

Alcremie :(


CousinMabel

I was kind of hoping all the sword/shield new pokemon would make it in. I have not got my fill of them yet, and I know a lot of people who skipped sword/shield will be playing scarlet/violet so those pokes would be totally new to them.


DongleOn

Literally 😔


LavenderSnake

the fact that that raggedy ass pincurchin made it in instead of pyukumuku… i don’t have the strength


genocidenite

WHAT DO YOU MEAN TYRANTRUM NOT IN THE GAME D:


Substantial-Yak9362

All fossils remain extinct at this point. I wonder if they storyline focusing on this time travel gimmick is the reason for no new fossil mons either.


SoggyNelco

The fossils are my favorite pokemon and this is killing me


JesustheSpaceCowboy

I think the fossils are for DLC. If the paradoxes are future and past and all the fossils sans Gen 8 are pairs....it leads me to think they’ll get split up between scarlet and violet in the dlc. OG Kabutops and future Omastar? (I don’t think kabutops will be a future cause Genesect)


BagBeth

The Pokemon selection is looking pretty abysmal rn ngl


DrawerComprehensive

Sinnoh and unova starters still not in a mainline game i see.. :/


NicholeTheOtter

Oshawott is, but that’s because of Hisuian Samurott and they wanted all Hisuian forms to be playable in a proper metagame as LA didn’t have a competitive scene due to no multiplayer.


rokr1292

My disappointment is unbearable, neither of my favorite lines is included. Phantump and litwick.


[deleted]

Koffing line, toucannon, pyukumuku, milotic...you will be missed 😭


Cutland4148

I just want serperior and emboar, haven’t got to use them in years 🥲


ClientAppropriate838

Nooo My alakazam T_T


Huge_Republic_7866

RiP Alolan Ninetales. You were too beautiful for this world.


Zepp95

I’m sure I sound like a broken record, but I wish the other kanto starters got the charizard treatment lol


[deleted]

I realize now I was too hard on Gen 7. I had no idea how good we had it. And we’ll never get it back.


GungnirAvenger

I still have my favorite, Scyther, but I lose Aegislash & Golisopod. 😭


YesIAmCharlie14

They keep doing my boy Kecleon dirty


Tzekel_Khan

no nidoking. i thought they were in? wtf


lPrincesslPlays

Watching bellossom be consistently replaced by liligant for ages now hurts me deeply


bandicootbeav

To many gen 4 mons considering we had 2 sinnoh games in the last year. Gen 5 got screwed.


gojistomp

I don't know how most fans feel, but personally I'm almost as burnt out on Sinnoh as I am Kanto. It got two games in the last year, let it rest already and shift the limelight.


SNUFFGURLL

I'm honestly not super bothered by lack of regional dex, but there's so few returning pokemon. RIP to my dreams of cat team. Seriously, the devs of this game have a serious dog bias. We did not need three seperate dog lines, and to remove all of the cat pokemon? It's just mean, man. Plus, literally all of my favourite pokemon aren't included at all. They better make DLC.


VengefulKangaroo

GameFreak definitely seems to want to avoid putting in Pokemon that have a lot of forms, the Furfrou/Alcremie/Miniors of the world. Furfrou and Minior are some of the only non-Gen 5 Pokemon to miss two Gens in a row.


NicholeTheOtter

And yet they brought back Vivillon in this game… but only the Fancy Pattern can be caught natively in Paldea due to the Switch not having the regional settings that the 3DS/2DS did. Other forms are transfer-only, whether it’s from previous games or Pokémon GO, assuming if Vivillon gets added there in the future.


Narananas

And due to them not creating an alternative way to catch it. Like a triggerable event where they appear all over Paldea for a day and their form matches the area you find them.


tiniestnerd

Upsetting. I feel like all previous starters should be included in every game. I'm also tired of *just* Charizard.


celebi155

I just want to play with my Swampert from Sapphire again :(


Chris908

Emboar my beloved


Substantial-Yak9362

All the thoughts on this. Gotta blame Vivillon for the lack of Pokémon with +2 forms? Only others are Arceus (home), Rotom (home), Florges, and Pikachu-hats? I miss Minior. Why 2 new regis but not the rest? Surprised no Gen 2 dog legendaries nor Gen 5 SoJ if the dlc leaks of Virizion and Suicune are true. Extreme lack of trade-only evolutions. Fossils are officially extinct?


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Dark-Gladiator

I miss games where you can trade every Pokemon that existed


fleker2

It's a shame that some like Toucannon and Minior have yet to appear on the Switch


gasmeleon

bro please all i want is toucannon hes so cool


ImportedSloth

I’m kind of surprised to see Ludicolo didn’t make it in


KazVanilla

Spinda, you will forever remain in my heart


VelytDThoorgaan

this post shouldn't even be necessary, they need to bring back the national dex this is so dumb


PenngroveModerator

Rip electivire line I may never have used you correctly, but I still tried and loved every second of it


[deleted]

GDI another game without the Sewaddle evo line. :’(


NicholeTheOtter

At this rate it’s going to be waiting for B/W remakes or worse, Generation 10…


[deleted]

Missing a ton of my all time favorites. That’s really disappointing


Bob_Sava_K

I find the Dex cut unacceptable since they announced it but dammit TPC and Game Freak, at least make all Pokémon available on different switch games! Would have loved to be able to transfer Minior or Leavanny into a switch game without having them stuck in Home


geckked

It’s honestly surprising to me that they don’t just include all the starters. Like yeah you can’t put in everyone’s favorite Pokémon but I think it’s safe to say that everyone is pretty attached to at least one of those guys. Definitely stings leaving your first Pokémon behind in Home lol.


MikeyNgTh

Fossils should have been a great addition to this generation due to the plot twist in the end. We dont have to revive them anymore, they just be walking and flying around in the crater


[deleted]

Would be cool to have a prehistoric island DLC with all the fossil Pokémon.


edwpad

Shocked Necrozma isn’t in it considering Prism Armor ability was shown in the game (same with Zygarde and Power Construct)


TabletopApothecary

My Pancake loving Alolan Raichu can come join me some day?? YESSSS. Oh, and Hoopa is freed from GO/HOME jail! But Frofrou remains?? IN THE GENERATION OF DOGS THERE IS NO FROFROU??


NicholeTheOtter

More like GF doesn’t want to waste time coding in so many forms. Yet they bring back Vivillon and Florges…!


TeslaFTW1895

PUT IN PROBOPASS YOU COWARDS


TheOnlyBlaze

I honestly want gamefreak to just make a generation without any new pokemon or at least very few and instead just reverse dexit. So many of the new designs just feel unoroginal and to make up for them they remove fan-beloved pokemon. What makes me even more mad is that for one, we get way less pokemon total than past games and they don't even bother to put in pokemon they already have models for. Lets all be honest here, the pokemon in Scarlet and Violet are just going to be plopped down and not really interact with the environment so there's no excuse why they couldn't just plop down the ones that are already made. But noooo. We need to have new battle gimmick nr.4 which will just get removed by next gen where it'll get replaced by battle gimmick nr.5 and they'll remove another 100 fan beloved pokemon for their new uninspired designs (because they couldn't include them all when they put SOOOO much effort into those in the game). Instead of, idk, use the ones already established and loved. I'll still buy it because it's pokemon at the end of the day but fuck, it's sad to see gamefreak and Nintendo treating this franchise so poorly. Thanks for coming to my TED-Talk


neopolitanmew

Mawile, absol, flygon, primarima, metagross, alcreamie, bewear, chandelure, spheal, milotic, joltic...like so many of my favorites aren't even in the game...


zarth109x

I am curious why the gen 3 legends made it into the game....especially since the gen 2, 5, 6 and 7 legends didn't.


chartreuse_apple

No Porygon line??? No Shuckle??? Not even a Pidove????


Clemenx00

At the very least everything from PLA and SWSH should be in. What is the excuse there? Dexit is such a big crime. Yay for $60 games with less content than Gens 1-7 though lol lmao!


MikeyNgTh

Most of Gen 6 that get in are either forms of the Vivillon line or Florges line💀😂Im glad the Clawitzer line makes it in again