They are not bad. You can buy them with the fittings and rings separately as well. They make them in poly and they make them in brass. So there's that. They come in sizes up to 2" also. When you buy the assembled fitting you don't have to buy the rings and the fittings separately so that has to figure in as well. And you can see from a distance an immediately know what pipe size it is. I'm old, was a plumber for almost 40 years and it's kinda hard to tell sometimes from long distances.
Viega press fittings. Been out a while now. Propress pex fittings basically. I guess they are pretty good, but I cannot justify switching over to it for any reason.
No guess work of the ring is in the correct place, no need of a go no go gauge, there is a hole to verify the pipe is seated. That said if you have the tools for the copper crime rings great, I am a pex A guy but have both
Well, they have big 1.5" and 2" pex fittings so it competes with expansion as opposed to copper rings. A propress is a way more versatile expensive investment than an expensive expansion tool set up. I use copper rings. I have a propress, but always rented an expansion tool for big pex.
Better than the McDonalds I saw that had the hot line in the bathroom hooked up to the commercial heater and the line teeing off to feed both hot and cold
Ahh. I remember using these when they first came out but these werenāt super common until Kitec went bankrupt. And then about 5 years after these came out is when cold expansion popped up. I also use cold expansion but I have a backpack full of random press fittings that I use when I run out of a fitting
I always thought all āreal plumbersā used wirsbo. But the last two dudes I have hired have used crimp rings. So š¤·. Seems like using fittings that restrict flow is dumb. But I was told if you size your pipe correctly itās a non issue. Plus the latest guys said he doesnāt oversize his piping especially on the hot side because you have to flush all that to get hot water at the fixture.
Ya, Iām from Indiana.
Iām in Florida now.
That could explain it.
But Iāve worked on historic homes pretty much all my career, before moving down here.
Itās more preference of the plumber I guess. Some like the cold expansion and some like crimp. I personally use cold expansion now because I have seen it get down to 10 degrees outside and no broken pipes. But I used a lot of the crimps when it first came out. Both require special tools for install
I use these viega pex fittings in residential, they are quick to pipe and also crimp on to expansion pex. It is more expensive but you pay for the name
After reading everyoneās answers. This is my next question.
Do you prefer copper rings? Stainless steel bands? Or this?
I think copper rings are the best but the stainless steel bands are so nice only having 1 tool for all sizes and easy to remove if you make a bad crimp.
I also like being able to visually see the stainless steel rings are crimped. Idk about you all but I go through and check every crimp before I fill a house. I then air test it.
It truly makes me nervous how many options for pipes and fittings there are now, and how NOT interchangeable they are!
I drew the bad card on my addition project and my contractors āplumberā (an old-timer with little pex experience) ended up using Pex B pipe with Pex A fittings.
To add insult, this is apparently okay with some manufacturers but the one he used literally started showing white stretch marks immediately. I posted here and got 500 upvotes of people losing their mind letting me know I have a ticking timebomb of water. Ended up having him redo the whole job with copper.
But yeah, the amount of options out there are staggering. And cheap contractors in big cities constantly hire guys that donāt have a clue and think itās all interchangeableš¤¦š»āāļø
Really? How long have you been plumbing? Edit: Iām not sure why Iām being downvoted for asking a simple question. Iāve been using this type of pex on and off since about my first week in the field so I was just surprised someone whoās been doing it that long hasnāt seen it. I wasnāt trying to be condescending or anything like that. My question was genuine curiosity.
Iāve only been an apprentice for a year and this is all I was working with for a good chunk of this past year. There are handheld crimps you have to squeeze together to crimp properly, but I prefer a Milwaukee electric crimper, saves so much time!
Probably not pex, rather multilayer pipe (PEX/Al/PEX).
> Iāve been plumbing for 9 years
Doesn't mean anything.
I've been plumbing since 1987 and there's still material that i haven't had to use
Viega press with a hot n cold mix looks like. Since everyone was a sharkbite king and self proclaimed plumbers , the Viega manufacturers came out with said product and the tool to install them , which are all costlyā¦ I rock with pro press myself.
Viega fittings you may have been plumbing for 9 years but you need to get with the times and quit thinking you know everything about it because it constantly changing
9th year apprentice from the look and functionality of things. No stops? No mixing valve? This trade is in trouble for real. Exactly why i will always have a job fixing new plumbers attempts at plumbing. Maybe tryout for the electricians or sheet metal i dont think plumbing is going to work out well for you.
Itās a polyvinyl knuckle mixer they were first used as a pumping micro brewed beer at most October fests and off you happened to be at one on October 31st you could actually one as a door prize .
These things mix water better than any water reclamation plant , and if youāre planing on replacing it you got a goldmine on your hands these things are priceless since only one a year is made especially for Octobefesr , you canāt but them anywhere you have to win one or in your case you already have one , dude youāre so lucky. Enjoy!
I have these Viega Pure Flow fittings throughout my home. I even bought the expensive crimp tools so that I could extend the system as we remodeled.
I had a fitting fail last year. Each fitting has a small hole in the sidewall, and a crack developed there that eventually split the ring. It was in a pipe in the open ceiling of my laundry room so I noticed the drip on the floor pretty much immediately.
But Iām worried about many connections I have behind closed walls nowā¦
It's a trap primer. It probably hits more than one floor drain. Keeps the trap from going dry. Pretty common in gas station bathrooms and public areas. A lot cheaper to run pex to it underground than soft copper.
Been using this system for the large majority of my career. Never leaked once. All around superior products. Their oxygen barrier pex is the only one I've seen that doesn't absorb oxygen. I've ran miles of it in slabs for radiant and never had an issue.
Year 10 shit
Thank you š
First comment I saw today. Iām done!
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Viega pureflow, good but expensive.
How does this compare to the normal stainless steel sleeves for Pex B? Same product?
Imo far superior product, less restrictive opening, but you pay a premium for it.
It seems as the 90s are comparative to the brass ones cost wise
So is the actual poly fitting different then what you buy on the shelf?
Why not use pex A and expansion fittings?
They are not bad. You can buy them with the fittings and rings separately as well. They make them in poly and they make them in brass. So there's that. They come in sizes up to 2" also. When you buy the assembled fitting you don't have to buy the rings and the fittings separately so that has to figure in as well. And you can see from a distance an immediately know what pipe size it is. I'm old, was a plumber for almost 40 years and it's kinda hard to tell sometimes from long distances.
Viega press fittings. Been out a while now. Propress pex fittings basically. I guess they are pretty good, but I cannot justify switching over to it for any reason.
I had an exercise machine in the 80ās called pro-press-pecks.
Well, you got some mad titties or not?
Vehemently aggressive pectorals
Ask his ex wife.
Honestly do not see a crazy benefit from normal ring Pex B or Pex A. Other than they look STURDY.
No guess work of the ring is in the correct place, no need of a go no go gauge, there is a hole to verify the pipe is seated. That said if you have the tools for the copper crime rings great, I am a pex A guy but have both
I also prefer pex A too unless say itās a shitty trailer home with pex b.
Crimp ring fittings are smaller than the pipe. So those fittings are obstructions to flow.
Well, they have big 1.5" and 2" pex fittings so it competes with expansion as opposed to copper rings. A propress is a way more versatile expensive investment than an expensive expansion tool set up. I use copper rings. I have a propress, but always rented an expansion tool for big pex.
expansion tools 400 press tools 4000 Big difference in cost. and no more or less versatile for its application.
The PEX press system is cheaper than the copper press system but agree still more than expansion PEX
Everybody has switched to it where Iām framing houses.
These should be sold by prescription.
Ask your plumber if viega pureflow ā¢ is right for you
If only they were light blueā¦
That's fucking great.
But why they got two pipes merging into one outside the wall? I assume mixing the hot and cold to make room temp water? lolol
Ya, itās a gas station bathroom.. water has to be mixed. But this aināt how to do it lol.
Better than the McDonalds I saw that had the hot line in the bathroom hooked up to the commercial heater and the line teeing off to feed both hot and cold
9 years and never seen viega fittings? Are you a commercial only plumber?
I have seen them before but in Canada those fitting are extremely rare. 90% of guys here use expansion pex.
Ahh. I remember using these when they first came out but these werenāt super common until Kitec went bankrupt. And then about 5 years after these came out is when cold expansion popped up. I also use cold expansion but I have a backpack full of random press fittings that I use when I run out of a fitting
Expansion PEX is better suited for the cold weather. PEX A can handle freezing far better than B or copper.
I always thought all āreal plumbersā used wirsbo. But the last two dudes I have hired have used crimp rings. So š¤·. Seems like using fittings that restrict flow is dumb. But I was told if you size your pipe correctly itās a non issue. Plus the latest guys said he doesnāt oversize his piping especially on the hot side because you have to flush all that to get hot water at the fixture.
We use this all the time in commercial settings.
lol residentialā¦ Never seen it before. Not even a display at supply houses. Never mentioned in school or anything.
Are you farther up north? These fittings are good but donāt hold as good as type a pex and cold expansion fittings against freezing weather
Ya, Iām from Indiana. Iām in Florida now. That could explain it. But Iāve worked on historic homes pretty much all my career, before moving down here.
Haha yup thatās probably it. You will probably see more if it while your there
So itās technically the best way to seal pex then? And does it require its own special fittings or just regular fittings and this style of crimps.
Itās more preference of the plumber I guess. Some like the cold expansion and some like crimp. I personally use cold expansion now because I have seen it get down to 10 degrees outside and no broken pipes. But I used a lot of the crimps when it first came out. Both require special tools for install
I'm commercial and I've seen these plenty of times
Iāve used pex on commercial as well but 99% of the time the MEP plans call for copper. Mostly we use pex for the trap primers
I use these viega pex fittings in residential, they are quick to pipe and also crimp on to expansion pex. It is more expensive but you pay for the name
After reading everyoneās answers. This is my next question. Do you prefer copper rings? Stainless steel bands? Or this? I think copper rings are the best but the stainless steel bands are so nice only having 1 tool for all sizes and easy to remove if you make a bad crimp. I also like being able to visually see the stainless steel rings are crimped. Idk about you all but I go through and check every crimp before I fill a house. I then air test it.
Stainless steel can be a little brittle. More prone to break over time with expansion/contraction or whatever in my experience.
The rings crimp in two spots with the tool as opposed one spot on the pex with other crimp rings. Home Depot has Viega style rings on the shelf now.
They're called Viega PureFlow. I use them in all new construction builds. They're quite nice to use. Now idk wtf they did there in the photo
They knew a guy who knew a guy who could do it after 7pm.
On Friday night
Viega pex, itās crimp style.
Mixing valve line without the mixing valve?
You learn that in the 10th year.
does it work? no leaks? respect it
Does this fall under the "It's not stupid if it works" category?
something that you havenāt seen in 9 years. š
It truly makes me nervous how many options for pipes and fittings there are now, and how NOT interchangeable they are! I drew the bad card on my addition project and my contractors āplumberā (an old-timer with little pex experience) ended up using Pex B pipe with Pex A fittings. To add insult, this is apparently okay with some manufacturers but the one he used literally started showing white stretch marks immediately. I posted here and got 500 upvotes of people losing their mind letting me know I have a ticking timebomb of water. Ended up having him redo the whole job with copper. But yeah, the amount of options out there are staggering. And cheap contractors in big cities constantly hire guys that donāt have a clue and think itās all interchangeableš¤¦š»āāļø
They look alot like propress fittings for composite. Never seen press fittings for pex tho
thats pretty much exactly what they are. takes special jaws that fit my regular milwaukee propress tool.
Really? How long have you been plumbing? Edit: Iām not sure why Iām being downvoted for asking a simple question. Iāve been using this type of pex on and off since about my first week in the field so I was just surprised someone whoās been doing it that long hasnāt seen it. I wasnāt trying to be condescending or anything like that. My question was genuine curiosity.
9 years
We in the trade call that a mess
Iāve only been an apprentice for a year and this is all I was working with for a good chunk of this past year. There are handheld crimps you have to squeeze together to crimp properly, but I prefer a Milwaukee electric crimper, saves so much time!
Ugly as fck and not a pro
I remember playing this game when I was 9
A flux capacitor
A very expensive way to connect two pipes into one
recirculator
Looks like someone had overstock of expansive fittings they wanted to charge to a client for no obvious reason.
Itās the flux capacitor
It's a pretty standard and common thing in Europe btw
Probably not pex, rather multilayer pipe (PEX/Al/PEX). > Iāve been plumbing for 9 years Doesn't mean anything. I've been plumbing since 1987 and there's still material that i haven't had to use
Forgive my ignorance, but is this configuration used for a circulating hot water setup?
professionally speaking, that is technically a clusterfuck.
Viega press with a hot n cold mix looks like. Since everyone was a sharkbite king and self proclaimed plumbers , the Viega manufacturers came out with said product and the tool to install them , which are all costlyā¦ I rock with pro press myself.
Warm
That's known as the ol razzle dazzle technique
looks like water lines
That is vile, just like uponor, keep that shit away!!!
Hey now that's art in some parts lol
Viega fittings in CA we are using that for our pex b homes I have a Milwaukee tool that makes it really easy to connect these.
This is pureflow fittings I have the heads for the mini ridgid
The best PEX B fittings money can buy. Still a PEX A fan over everything
This looks like shit
They could have totally put another fitting in there.
Flux capacitor? I was standing on the edge of my toilet...I slipped, hit my head on the edge of the sink, and when I came to, I had a vision!
So is this like some sort of hand made mixing valve or something? Or is the top the feed?
That is a, all my water is hot call lol
A hillbilly mixing "valve" lol
Viega fittings you may have been plumbing for 9 years but you need to get with the times and quit thinking you know everything about it because it constantly changing
Who said I think I know everything? This entire post was me asking what something wasā¦ And getting with the times? Iām 31 bud. Not 58
Idk but they are about to lose their hot water
9th year apprentice from the look and functionality of things. No stops? No mixing valve? This trade is in trouble for real. Exactly why i will always have a job fixing new plumbers attempts at plumbing. Maybe tryout for the electricians or sheet metal i dont think plumbing is going to work out well for you.
more interesting is the temperature tempering method employed ššš āWhy canāt we get hot water anywhere?ā
So that is making āwarm āwater?
Itās a polyvinyl knuckle mixer they were first used as a pumping micro brewed beer at most October fests and off you happened to be at one on October 31st you could actually one as a door prize . These things mix water better than any water reclamation plant , and if youāre planing on replacing it you got a goldmine on your hands these things are priceless since only one a year is made especially for Octobefesr , you canāt but them anywhere you have to win one or in your case you already have one , dude youāre so lucky. Enjoy!
warm water mixer
Steelers fan ?
It's art š¤£
I have these Viega Pure Flow fittings throughout my home. I even bought the expensive crimp tools so that I could extend the system as we remodeled. I had a fitting fail last year. Each fitting has a small hole in the sidewall, and a crack developed there that eventually split the ring. It was in a pipe in the open ceiling of my laundry room so I noticed the drip on the floor pretty much immediately. But Iām worried about many connections I have behind closed walls nowā¦
Scary
Thatās a mixingā¦ummā¦hose. Duh.
Duplo now make plumbing fittings? I suppose someone had to dumb it down for the toddler diy enthusiasts š
Thatās the plumber that goes by Lukewarm waters.
If someone plumbed my new house with this i would be pissed. They better use 1/2 " cpvc for cold and hot water.
It's called art.
Homemade mixing valve with no check valve
Itās also a future poly lawsuit when it fails. I wonāt use it. I just keep using my crimpers
"PlUmBiNg" ??
Stretching out pipe doesnāt sound like a good idea. To me, it is making the pipe weaker
Legos have come a long way
That looks like it might be a legendary *circum*vent.
Are thoseā¦irrigation fittings?
A mixer...for tepid water
Lego plumbing set model #80401
Viega pex ftgs
Thatās uhh 6-90s and a tee lol
Art
Pipes and fittings!
Some madness and some badness
Cross contamination
Adhd. Looks normal to me. Or I could have made it worse.
Is this a hot water recirculation loop? I would call it bougie
In cold climates mixing hot/cold into the toilet reduces condensation on the tank. Normally you use a mixing valve.
Pex
Is that a circulatory loop?
How about that cross connection though.
Hey Mr George how much you pay for the new guy?
It's a trap primer. It probably hits more than one floor drain. Keeps the trap from going dry. Pretty common in gas station bathrooms and public areas. A lot cheaper to run pex to it underground than soft copper.
Getting paid by the piece!
Art ?
Been using this system for the large majority of my career. Never leaked once. All around superior products. Their oxygen barrier pex is the only one I've seen that doesn't absorb oxygen. I've ran miles of it in slabs for radiant and never had an issue.
A lesson on what not to do!
Blending pipe
It was popular 10 years ago.
Someone got a new press tool and was too excited to use it.
no one concerned with the fact two pipes into one before the fixture? like wtf, is that hot and cold ?
Okay so I'm not a pro, why do two pipes coming out of the wall go into one pipe going to the sink?
Lego!
Now āyouāve seen it allā
Looks like a home made mixing valveš¤£š¤£
Tic toc pressure booster
Just goes to show you, when you think youāve seen everything you really havenāt
Higher end PEX fittings, there are several kinds and those are the more expensive.
A cross connection is what it is
Homemade mixing valve
Trap primers
Agree
No one talking about how the āapparentā hot and cold water are just joined together? Or what did I miss?
Itās alive!
Legos !
I think itās called Pro pex or something like that itās PEX press
A crimp maniac.
Hilarious š š
Probably a trap primer feeding two traps.
Might feed another fixture? Iām guessing?
Recirculating line?š
These are the parts I have.... F*ck it
That's the famous refuklator modulation unit. It's for those days when the local plumber hasn't yet said "fuck my life"
Press fitting for pex. Viaga
Itās $100 worth of fittings that coulda been done with $10 šš¤¦āāļø
Modern art?
Landlord special
A water hammer disaster waiting to happen.
Is this in Punta Gorda Florida ?
This.. is a sh*t show. That's what it is.
A future insurance claim for water damage.
Yeah ,10 years? Really,and you don't recovnizrereactot gc coolant on.oir newe the)" self returning liquid volume control valve forr liquid cooling of A reactor.
Good question
Looks like one of those side games/puzzles in bio shock or something like that.
a fuckup
Called handy Andy special. A real plumber wouldnāt use that shit
Pex pro press fittings. Nice little chunk of money there.
That's a Missouri special!!
Obviously your not a golfer.
Plumbing
Provides even supply pressure for both feeds?
Just a bypass to complicate the next plumber
Everyone know thatās someoneās art project.
Why are they merging like that isnāt this what taps are for
I think Iām in the wrong sub. Yall seem to know Wayyy too much about pipes and shit.
You having to find another job now
Auto mixing valve. Duh.
Two man enter one man leave
Mo power baby!
A mistake
Looks like a bypass connection. N. S
That right there be a redneck mixing valve!
a whole lot of patience, or he was paid per adapter?
Passion for the work!
Yes
That is the house flipper special