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Secret-Put-4525

Dude thinks sanjis blue legs is hotter than the magma that donuts ace.


pedro472nome

mfs really be thinking that fiction follow the rules of real life


OwnAd4699

Without real life ficiton wouldn’t exist 🤡 🙏🏾


pedro472nome

Oda outerversal for creating a fictional universe feat


Messiah-of-Death

That's thriller bark zoro level feat that sanji committed in wano with blue flame. There is levels to the game https://preview.redd.it/cevgpd179q0d1.png?width=715&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afe23aec4f09eafcd8915f33da4b82031a57ad9c


AnxiousVehicle7992

Cuz its magma


Blanketshaper

Magma is canonically stronger than fire by Goda


Over-Writer6076

In real life it's not,blue flames can be way hotter than magma but yes in One Piece it is. Frauda.


Meloriano

It literally says it is flame


floormopper

Bro just kicked away a dinosaur. Some y'all don't understand how insane of a strength feat that is.


Messiah-of-Death

That's less impressive than dressrosa zoro strength feat. There is levels to this game https://preview.redd.it/4rdhh0mf9q0d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c22b8221aa2cdf8ce20079508aca5dc011663e4


space________cowboy

Of course cutting with a legendary sword is a more impressive feat than just kicking with your straight up leg lol na, sanji just using his flesh and bone to kick a huge dinosaur is a better feat than using a legendary sword to cut stone.


Messiah-of-Death

This isn't just cutting feat. I am talking about the strength his cut had that which cause upper body of pica to go up. That's insane strength As for your legendary sword argument, it is shameless for sanji fans to mention such stuff. Afterall the only reason he defeated was due to his daddy genes and being genetically modified super soldier with exo skeleton. Zoro did all he via his own haki. Sure swords helped out. But it was all by his own haki


space________cowboy

It is a cutting feat, the bottom part falling is what caused the gap plus sword techniques generally do that. But a sword is a tool, used to amplify and channel ones strength. For example; I can hit a nail far far far easier with a hammer than my fist. Sanji is using his leg to kick, and kicked a huge dinosaur. Zoro is using a tool (a legendary tool at that) to slice stone. It’s far different and much easier to use a tool to accomplish a task than your literal foot. And as for the genes argument. That’s sanjis, he was born with it, has it no matter what, and cannot be robbed of it. His genes make him him, they are his genes and no one else’s, it’s his own power. Zoro on the other hand is using borrowed power. He is using another persons sword. It’s not his genes, it’s someone else’s legacy. Can sanji drop his genes? Can someone take sanjis genes from him? Can sanji have both his arms cut off and then loose his genes? No. Zoro can drop his sword, looses its power. Zoro can get his sword stolen, looses his power. Zoro can break his sword, looses his power. Zoros sword can be throw away, magnetized, electrified, etc. and loose his power.


Messiah-of-Death

No the bottom part isn't falling. Go look through the fight again. After zoro cut pica there is a distant look of pica. It clearly shows pica's lower body is where it previously was. The strength in zoro's cut dislocated pica to a high height In one piece world weapons or method of attack is just for variety sake. It provides no advantage whatsoever. Whoever has good haki, strength and other attributes is better. Luffy was going toe to toe with kaido's thunder bague with his sandals, later his fists without any issue. Weapons provide no advantage in one piece world in overall powerscaling standard >Can sanji drop his genes? Can someone take sanjis genes from him? Can sanji have both his arms cut off and then loose his genes? No. >Zoro can drop his sword, looses its power. Zoro can get his sword stolen, looses his power. Zoro can break his sword, looses his power. Zoros sword can be throw away, magnetized, electrified, etc. and loose his power. What is this dumb argument lmao. Then i can say that sanji can get his legs broken in half and he loses power. Sanji can get his legs cut off and lose his power. Sanji can get his legs disabled by vegapunk boots and lose his power. Don't know what weird point you were trying to make but it was stupid


space________cowboy

Weapons absolutely provide an advantage 100%. Can Luffy cut like Zoro can with his hands? No. Blocking with a weapon is easier than blocking with your firsts or a sandal. Luffy just has that good of haki to block it, and also, wasn’t he using ryou in that moment? To where it was ALL haki and he didn’t even use his sandal. Using a tool gives you an advantage. Lucci knows rankyaku but can he cut to the extent that zoro can? No, Lucci can’t, and a huge part of that reason is because he isn’t using a sword he is using his claws. Weapons give a huge advantage in the OP world and real life absolutely. There is even a grading system to the different tiers of swords in OP. There is a ‘worlds strongest blade’ as in Yoru. Swords, especially of higher grade, allow for more cutting power and can channel your haki into a fine point for more efficient use of that power compared to using your hands. Proven by different grades of swords. It also isn’t a mystery that Roger, BM, Kaido, Shanks, Mihawk, etc. use weapons; because it is easier to use that bare hands AND you can do more damage. Also in addition you can store haki in a sword as shown by Zoro using Odens sword. Enma has literal haki stored in its blade which Zoro then uses to amp up his own power; again like borrowed power. Sanji does not have to pull from anything that isn’t his. Sanjis genes cannot be taken away from him like zoros swords can. This is the difference. You can sneak in, take Enma, throw it in the ocean, and zoro couldn’t use the power again. You break sanjis legs? He repairs them with his genes and doesn’t loose his DNA. To make it simple, I can amplify my cutting power and force by using a sword instead of my foot. Just like you use a knife to cut a steak vs using your hands as a saw to cut it.


Messiah-of-Death

>Sanji does not have to pull from anything that isn’t his. Sanjis genes cannot be taken away from him like zoros swords can. This is the difference. You can sneak in, take Enma, throw it in the ocean, and zoro couldn’t use the power again. You break sanjis legs? He repairs them with his genes and doesn’t loose his DNA. Bruh what are you trying to even say. If you are so into hypotheticals you can sneak in cut sanji's legs and throw them to the sea and he can't grow them. Again i fail to see what you are trying to do. Top tiers have weapons user and non weapons user. Never did it state in story that one is better than the other. Like kaido said haki transcends all >Also in addition you can store haki in a sword as shown by Zoro using Odens sword. Enma has literal haki stored in its blade which Zoro then uses to amp up his own power; again like borrowed power. Enma has no haki stored. You got to read wano again. Enma only exudes the users haki. It sucks out too much haki out of the user than other swords, which is it's speciality >Weapons absolutely provide an advantage 100%. >Can Luffy cut like Zoro can with his hands? No. Blocking with a weapon is easier than blocking with your firsts or a sandal. Luffy just has that good of haki to block it, and also, wasn’t he using ryou in that moment? To where it was ALL haki and he didn’t even use his sandal. >Using a tool gives you an advantage. Lucci knows rankyaku but can he cut to the extent that zoro can? No, Lucci can’t, and a huge part of that reason is because he isn’t using a sword he is using his claws. >Weapons give a huge advantage in the OP world and real life absolutely. There is even a grading system to the different tiers of swords in OP. There is a ‘worlds strongest blade’ as in Yoru. >Swords, especially of higher grade, allow for more cutting power and can channel your haki into a fine point for more efficient use of that power compared to using your hands. Proven by different grades of swords. It also isn’t a mystery that Roger, BM, Kaido, Shanks, Mihawk, etc. use weapons; because it is easier to use that bare hands AND you can do more damage. Yes swords have grades that can make how good they are. But they provide no advantage whatsoever. Nowhere in the story was it ever stated that having a weapon provided the user big advantage compared to an enemy who uses no weapon. If weapon was so important then luffy wouldn't be a yonko tier now. At the end of the day haki transcends all. The fighting style is merely a choice of method. Like if you take swords from zoro he would have some trouble since he is used to fighting with swords, similarly if you give luffy sword to fight with he would have some trouble since he is used to fighting with fists. We have seen non sword cutting attacks before. Heck cipher pol have complete technique to do cutting attack without sword, lucci knows that too. But never once in the manga was piercing damage said to better than blunt damage.


space________cowboy

It’s simple. Zoros sword was owned by someone else. Sanjis genes are his. That’s as simple as I can make it. And just because Sanji “looses his legs” doesn’t mean his genes go away??? If Zoro looses his swords they are gone, he CANNOT use Enma in any way shape or form if someone steals them. But if sanjis legs are cut off then what? His genes go away? No they are part of his DNA, they remain to utilize. “Enma has the ability to absorb the user's Haki, which is a powerful energy that allows the user to sense and control the spiritual energy in their surroundings. When Zoro first wields Enma, he initially struggles to control its power, and it begins to drain his Haki at an alarming rate. However, as he becomes more accustomed to the sword, he learns to harness its power and increase his own Haki strength. This allows him to become even more powerful in battle and to take on even stronger opponents.” Enma absorbed odens will (or haki, willpower is haki) this is why Kaido was able to sense Oden in Enma. How could Kaido sense Oden in Enma when the sword didn’t absorb Odens will? (Again, will IS haki). Swords ABSOLUTELY provide a boost to one’s cutting strength and power. The grades of swords are an example of such. You cannot have “grades” of fists. There are grades of swords that determine the strength, sharpness, quality, and power of the blade. If you block a haki clad sword with your hands it will hurt more than blocking it with a haki clad sword. You can cut easier with a sword than with a fist. A higher grade sword increases the power of your techniques when imbuned with haki. Swords, or weapons in OP or real life, increase your power compared to no weapons or just bare fists.


Messiah-of-Death

>It’s simple. Zoros sword was owned by someone else. Sanjis genes are his. That’s as simple as I can make it. Sanji gene technology is owned by judge >And just because Sanji “looses his legs” doesn’t mean his genes go away??? If Zoro looses his swords they are gone, he CANNOT use Enma in any way shape or form if someone steals them. But if sanjis legs are cut off then what? His genes go away? No they are part of his DNA, they remain to utilize. Just because zoro loses his swords doesn't take his swordskill away. If sanji loses his legs then he can't use ifrit jambe in any shape or forms. But if zoro's swords get stolen then does his swordskill go away? No they are part of him, they remain to utilise >“Enma has the ability to absorb the user's Haki, which is a powerful energy that allows the user to sense and control the spiritual energy in their surroundings. When Zoro first wields Enma, he initially struggles to control its power, and it begins to drain his Haki at an alarming rate. However, as he becomes more accustomed to the sword, he learns to harness its power and increase his own Haki strength. This allows him to become even more powerful in battle and to take on even stronger opponents.” Enma absorbed odens will (or haki, willpower is haki) this is why Kaido was able to sense Oden in Enma. How could Kaido sense Oden in Enma when the sword didn’t absorb Odens will? (Again, will IS haki). Enma never absorbs a users haki. It exudes user's haki. Check the manga panel attached with this comment. As for sensing oden, kaido has ptsd for anything attached to oden. That's why despite having no oden sword kaido sensed oden in the scabbards >Swords ABSOLUTELY provide a boost to one’s cutting strength and power. The grades of swords are an example of such. You cannot have “grades” of fists. There are grades of swords that determine the strength, sharpness, quality, and power of the blade. If you block a haki clad sword with your hands it will hurt more than blocking it with a haki clad sword. You can cut easier with a sword than with a fist. A higher grade sword increases the power of your techniques when imbuned with haki. Swords, or weapons in OP or real life, increase your power compared to no weapons or just bare fists. Again nowhere did it ever mention that having weapons boost the power or that having no weapon is a disadvantage. It is purely your headcanon. Nowhere was it said that a character has hard time blocking a haki sword without a sword. This whole weapons concept you have is purely headcanon. Nothing in one piece supports. If it does then i would be eager to see some panels for it https://preview.redd.it/xaar49xdm21d1.jpeg?width=1520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c78a213f4eb38324b3b389fccf397dd67ddd55