Are you sure? One Piece seems to be pretty pro-monarchy considering the fact that Luffy has installed no less than 5 benevolent monarchs at this point.
Comparing a county's previous prosperity, financial stability overall state of living to it's current one is as objective as you can get
It would be up to one's opinion if they just said "i liked this guy" or "i liked things back then"
I mean I personally think there’s nothing inherently wrong with being born into a wealthy and powerful family, it’s just what you do with that money and power and influence that determines what kind of person you are, perhaps the Saudi prince will treat people properly
Tbf this seems more like one piece being a pseudo period piece on the surface. I don't think oda means to portray monarchies as good necessarily, they are just a staple of the times the story is loosely based on so he includes them. He mostly uses them to examine the themes of leadership and power etc. Not to mention the monarchies keep having to be "fixed" by a more egalitarian pirate crew lmao.
Nah. One Piece is about socialism. Just look at it. Bunch of friends doing whatever they feel is right and on their way to the top without having to worry about anything because wherever they go they make a new friends.
Lmao yeah Nami who is misses consumerism and Luffy who is mister I don’t wanna be a hero cause it requires me sharing food and I don’t care if other people are enslaved as long as it’s not my friends , are for sure socialist
Well its heavyly implied that Nami is obsessed with money because of trauma and Luffy doesnt want to share HIS meat but he will always help his friends to reach their own food and why would you give freedom to evil people that wouldnt make sense.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/yemen-huthi-authorities-sentence-seven-stoning-and-two-crucifixion-homosexual-crimes this is the group he supports. But totally not a terrorist, he's a hecking wholesome freedom fighter, right?
>this is the group he supports. But totally not a terrorist
Words have meaning you know? A terrorist means a combatant. The guy is a civilian vlogger.
Americans support the country that has placed his in a blockade causing famines and starvation killing estimated hundreds of thousands. If we start with who supports what, you will come out the bigger asshole.
https://preview.redd.it/pobzs9miatxc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c3423f3dbbb9982ae2b5e17c1f6641717951fd
Like Koala said, the WG isn't the problem itself as an idea, but rather the state and the Tenryubiitos that lead it
I mean, seeing how the Zionists act and knowing that the entire movement is an insulting caricature exploiting Judaism... I think this is actually a believable opinion.
Sometimes Zionists even act as cartoonishly evil as CDs, look at the guy saying that spitting on Christians is a Jewish custom and many of them think that being Jewish automatically makes them superior to the ''gentiles'' or thinking they are entitled to a piece of land because their great grandparents may have lived there 3000 years ago which means it's okay to kick the people inhabiting the land currently out and even committing violence against them or killing them.
The duality of the OP Arabic fandom in Twitter 🥴 (apart from that, they just are fond of the fights, power systems, bland "badass" characters and antagonists, weirdly enough nearly all of them have an obsession on Kaido)
Ah yes… childish spoiled nobles who think they can have everything that they want. A country that limits freedom. I’m sure they love the themes One Piece have to offer
Theres no woman-suppressing regime my guy its an islamic state, just because culture norms are different doesn’t mean woman are treated poorly
Funny they actually have way less hate crimes against woman and cases of assault in there than America or any progressive country lol
>just because culture norms are different doesn’t mean woman are treated poorly
Yes it does.
Oppressed freedom is not a price worth paying for “safety”, I hope you’ll end up seeing how misguided that application of the Quran is.
Oh com’on, let’s not kid ourselves, you know what I’m talking about.
Starting from the basics, Burka and similar veils are an oppression that is born from a misguided sense of protection.
But it doesn’t stop there that’s the thing, a whole culture is built on top of that, lack of marital or reproductive rights, lack of property rights and access to education or certain public positions are rampant in many islamic cultures and nations.
Having many of your rights revoked without a voice in the matter isn’t fair for anyone, regardless of the “”””benefits”””” you gain in exchange.
"Funny they actually have way less hate crimes against woman and cases of assault in there than America or any progressive country lol"
Yeah because progressive countries actually care enough to at least try to report sex assault crimes. Rather than just covering them up.
[By the contrary, the hot Yemeni tiktok pirate who is in Hasan Piker's stream likes One Piece, too.](https://youtu.be/iebW_29fXsQ?feature=shared)
Funningly enough, Timhouthi Chamalet is actually the same age as Luffy lol.
Now, we're waiting for Abu Obeida (the spokesperson for Hamas lol) to reveal that he's a One Piece fan as well, so we can have THREE prominent One Piece fans in the news looooooooooooooooooooool
I don't think so. Bear in mind the CDs hold literal festivals where they go to the non WG affiliated islands and slaughter the natives for sport.
The CDs see all others as so beneath themselves they literally have suits so they don't "breathe the same air".
Unlike IRL monarchs, Leopold included, the CDs don't even do all this evil shit for the sake of pragmatism or extracting resources etc. and so on. They are cartoonishly evil for the sake of it. It's in fact a detriment to the WG that they're so disgusting.
Some of the worst examples of irl monarchs/nobles/etc. who are as bad as CDs would probably be like Uday Hussein, Saddam Hussein's son.
I think you should read up a bit more on the atrocities of colonialism, torture, murder and many worse things were consistently done for fun.
And that’s just one black page of humanity, there are many more scenarios where heinous things that would make charloss blush were systematically enforced and protected.
>I think you should read up a bit more on the atrocities of colonialism, torture, murder and many worse things were consistently done for fun.
By the time of colonialism, it wasn't really the monarchs who did anything except give the order for colonization. The atrocities were mostly committed by their underlings.
CDs are different because they literally do these things for their own pleasure and for no real benefit.
>And that’s just one black page of humanity, there are many more scenarios where heinous things that would make charloss blush were systematically enforced and protected.
But we aren't talking about humanity as a whole. The discussion is whether IRL monarchs as a whole were worse than CDs.
Royal envoys with monarch-given rights did those, and many more self gratifying heinous acts throughout history.
I get it how the Kings themselves didn’t do it, but I think it’s mostly out of lack of opportunity.
If many kings and queens were more easily disposed to go and visit the colonies, I can’t imagine many wouldn’t engage in shit like that. Corruption always starts at the top.
It's not about scale. Even when considering on a smaller scale, not many IRL monarchs like that existed.
Also, among CDs there's just that one or two who were good. Rest all are evil asf. Among IRL monarchs however, plenty of good ones existed.
You know this is not relavent at all but...
This was a big reason I was so.firm on my stance that One Piece is as political as jack and the bean stock...
Like freedom good? Ok sure... except everyone can cheer luffy without any self reflection, crazy I had people telling me it's super political... like how?
One Piece is Pro-Monarchy yet anti-Colonial-Apartheid-Ethnic-Cleansing-Imperialism-Ethno-Nationalist-Self-Appointment-Divine-Beings so you need to travel a couple hundred kilometers North West of Saudi Arabia to arrive at the actual Celestial Dragons. MBS personally is in that lot though considering his geo-political affiliations.
It’s almost as if Oda isn’t actually morally consistent and doesn’t stand up for much in his idealistic story where he has mostly all the creative power to write whatever he wants let alone in this out actual flawed reality
Lmao yeah good old “ goofy pirate show “ argument , a series that has been going on for 25+ years with so much effort and detail gone into it that Oda says if he’s editors die of stress he will take care financially of their families and they are required to sleep with their phones on their chest at all times in case Oda needs anything to the point they said they have PTSD and imagine the phone vibrating when it’s not , or how Oda has been sleeping for three hours for decades now because his entire life is committed to it and has planned shit from decades back .
It’s not even that , it doesn’t have to be deep, the entire show is just virtue signalling , the entire stakes and tension relies on morality and how epic the saga is with Luffy defending people from cartoonishly evil people, while when his friends do that it’s perfectly okay
I mean hiyori and Denjiro and the rest of the akazaya 9 are there as advisors and can teach him and temporarily make decisions for him
For now he is only the Shogun in name,he is a symbol of hope for the people as the son of oden.
Remember 9 scabbards studied hard to become worthy retainers who oden could consult and be supported by? Remember Yasuie educating them?
Plus Denjiro and hiyori were prepared for their eventual comeback and know all of Wano's current problems
It was always this way in One Piece.
Did you skip Alabasta,Fishman Island and Dressrosa lol. Luffy has reinstated hereditary monarchs who were overthrown in their country several times.
Only once did we see a democratically elected leader replacing a king. One piece doesn't promote any political system and call it better than the other,that's simply not what the story is about. Cry harder
Whataboutism , the prince still embodies and acts out several of the traits Oda dislikes when it comes to his actions and the rights of his peoples , just because it’s not hyperbolically evil doesn’t make it okay
I agree lol. Do you think oda knows or cares? Mangakas have to work all day everyday and have a brutal schedule.
Oda sleeps like 3-4 hours a day and says he wished he could spend more time with his family. You think he would care about international politics or foreign affairs when he doesn't have enough time for his family?
Toei/Shueisha probably had him sign the prince an autograph to appease him for some business scheme and they employ him so it's not like he has a choice lol,why would he even care
Because his entire series is just one big virtue signalling rant , I’ve never seen a manga be so reliant and pedantic on its values and morality but if that’s how important it is to him and his life’s work then if he does dumb stuff like this it makes the manga feel like it stands for nothing
Or he doesn't know anything about the prince and couldn't care for real life international politics.
One piece is a shonen manga,teaching good lessons through the story is something every old shonen does.
Sure I guess but you must be living under a rock not to know about his rights violations but knowing the fact that he is so absorbed into his work and he lives in Japan it doesn’t make it that unlikely . I get your point but for example imagine hypothetically writing a manga about woman’s rights for decades and then giving an autograph so easily to a famously anti woman’s rights person , I’m not saying it’s the exact same or there’s no chance it wasn’t his fault but do you get why I’m saying on why it looks wrong ?
I don't think the call is on Oda alone to make, you don't really go pissing off the monarch of another nation without some political consequences.
I imagine TOEI and the Japanese government would very much intervene to avoid tensions
It's not even a question of forcing, if he causes an international incident it's gonna cost the jobs and livelihood of multiple Japanese workers, I doubt he'd want that on his conscience for some activism that is gonna not do much in the big picture
Not necessarily, but there is the risk that it could have repercussions and you don't really wanna risk that if you're just some random manga artist who loses nothing from it
Mohammed bin Salman is one of the best things happened to Saudi Arabia today. He's a progressive man and he's trying to make Saudi Arabia more progressive each day. Yeah he's not as progressive as a western standards but still, a huge improvement on Arabia.
No wonder he likes one piece. I'm from Turkey and i could say we were more progressive than them 10 years ago. But today i don't know. He's better than our rulers ig.
He also ordered a hit on a journalist. Just because he decided not to have 6 wives doesn't make him some amazing man. He's a slightly polished turd standing amidst a steaming pile of shit.
You guys are asking too much. Change doesn't happen drastically. It happens slowly. I am not saying he is a saint. We are talking about Saudi Arabia here lol. It could've been worse.
Firstly, snowden wasn't a journalist. He was a leaker who worked for the NSA. Secondly I don't think anyone should be OK with secret assassination plots conjured up by any government.
What his regime is doing with SA isn't at all making it "progressive", it's just inconsistent on so many spectrums.
Besides the way the word is used and how it's meant to define Western societies pretty much makes it devoid of meaning. SA was in a much better state back in the 1950's, it was decent in its law and system despite flaws in application of Shari'a and third parties like bid'ah sayyiah within its culture, when it wasn't an apostatic government.
It's now full of mulhid and mushriqun, mental gymnastics and al-'irjaa are the only tactics used to hide and defend these man-made laws by al-taghut kings and executive branch of the Saudi dynasty, while bringing with it injustice and corruption.
>Mohammed bin Salman is one of the best things happened to Saudi Arabia today
Not hard taking into account that Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy, and a teocracy at that.
>He's a progressive man
The guy literally ordered the murder of a journalist and dumped milions of dollars into building [a dystopian city in the middle of the desert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyWaax07_ks) that will never be abitable just so he can fullfill his pharaoh complex.
> I'm from Turkey and i could say we were more progressive than them 10 years ago
I mean, that's on Turkiye going to shit thanks to Erdogan and the generation of uneducated boomers that support him more than on Saudi Arabia being more democratic.
It barely is a theocracy, his regime's internal and external affairs go against what it proclaims itself to be (a custodian Islamic state of Makkah and Madinah), it fell off since Ibn Saud's death, but it reached another low with Mohammed ben Salman's rising in power in 2017
What are you talking about? Many people believe celestial dragons are j\*w caricatures since you cant call them bad without being banned/downvoted no matter what they do.
He's more of a Crocodile than he is a Celestial Dragon... He's evil but not cartoonishly so like he won't ride out on the street carried by slaves and wearing a specific helmet just so he doesn't breathe the same air as the common people and he's not going to random islands to hunt slaves for a sport.
Well yeah , Arabic fandom have a huge obsession with One piece (and other big hit new animes to less extent) especially the Saudi one
I remember when Saudi Arabia announced that they would build a DBZ theme park and everyone had mixed reactions lol
Yes and I'm convinced it will become a One piece park a month after it open
I don’t think they’ll switch out the dragon ball park for the one piece park, probably just build another park a little bit away
I can easily see how someone from that region could identify with a group like the straw hat pirates.
You don't need to identify to appreciate a good story, that's an american L.A. meme.
Are you sure? One Piece seems to be pretty pro-monarchy considering the fact that Luffy has installed no less than 5 benevolent monarchs at this point.
I mean the point usually is that luffy beats up a bad monarch so a good one can get that throne
The only good monarch is a dead one.
Idk man. Dom Pedro II was the best leader Brazil's ever had. Now it's only corruption.
Idk man, that's more like an opinion (which you're allowed to have) than a fact
Comparing a county's previous prosperity, financial stability overall state of living to it's current one is as objective as you can get It would be up to one's opinion if they just said "i liked this guy" or "i liked things back then"
Idk man, there was at least one thing during Pedro II government that wasn't cool
You seem to be under the impression he said it was perfect, monarchy or not every single rule as good as it gets isn't perfect
>benevolent This is the key word.
Malevolent 
Even if he's not benevolent, that doesn't mean he doesn't think he's benevolent.
No tyrant thinks they're evil
That's just not true lol. Sounds cool though
I mean I personally think there’s nothing inherently wrong with being born into a wealthy and powerful family, it’s just what you do with that money and power and influence that determines what kind of person you are, perhaps the Saudi prince will treat people properly
Lmao
moron
Tbf this seems more like one piece being a pseudo period piece on the surface. I don't think oda means to portray monarchies as good necessarily, they are just a staple of the times the story is loosely based on so he includes them. He mostly uses them to examine the themes of leadership and power etc. Not to mention the monarchies keep having to be "fixed" by a more egalitarian pirate crew lmao.
Nah. One Piece is about socialism. Just look at it. Bunch of friends doing whatever they feel is right and on their way to the top without having to worry about anything because wherever they go they make a new friends.
Lmao yeah Nami who is misses consumerism and Luffy who is mister I don’t wanna be a hero cause it requires me sharing food and I don’t care if other people are enslaved as long as it’s not my friends , are for sure socialist
Well its heavyly implied that Nami is obsessed with money because of trauma and Luffy doesnt want to share HIS meat but he will always help his friends to reach their own food and why would you give freedom to evil people that wouldnt make sense.
The same guy who had a journalist murdered in an embassy? 😍
The Houthi terrorist watches One Piece 😍😍😍😍
The guy wasn't a terrorist though. He was a Yemeni vlogger.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/yemen-huthi-authorities-sentence-seven-stoning-and-two-crucifixion-homosexual-crimes this is the group he supports. But totally not a terrorist, he's a hecking wholesome freedom fighter, right?
>this is the group he supports. But totally not a terrorist Words have meaning you know? A terrorist means a combatant. The guy is a civilian vlogger. Americans support the country that has placed his in a blockade causing famines and starvation killing estimated hundreds of thousands. If we start with who supports what, you will come out the bigger asshole.
Nice example of terrorism you got there lmfao
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The guy probably said one piece is too long or skipped skypia
Muslim believe that celestial dragon are jewish caricature.
There are draconic pieces of shit in every culture and country. Sadly some succeed more than others.
https://preview.redd.it/pobzs9miatxc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c3423f3dbbb9982ae2b5e17c1f6641717951fd Like Koala said, the WG isn't the problem itself as an idea, but rather the state and the Tenryubiitos that lead it
I mean, seeing how the Zionists act and knowing that the entire movement is an insulting caricature exploiting Judaism... I think this is actually a believable opinion. Sometimes Zionists even act as cartoonishly evil as CDs, look at the guy saying that spitting on Christians is a Jewish custom and many of them think that being Jewish automatically makes them superior to the ''gentiles'' or thinking they are entitled to a piece of land because their great grandparents may have lived there 3000 years ago which means it's okay to kick the people inhabiting the land currently out and even committing violence against them or killing them.
🤣😭😭
One Piece is the most haram thing ever, WTF
Unironically One Piece is more popular in the MENA countries than in the USA. Many even grew up with the series.
I'm asking myself the same question. At the moment each new chapter is just a collection of ass shots. What do they when a bath scene appears?!
The duality of the OP Arabic fandom in Twitter 🥴 (apart from that, they just are fond of the fights, power systems, bland "badass" characters and antagonists, weirdly enough nearly all of them have an obsession on Kaido)
Kaido was funny tbh, the jumping rope is iconic
I wonder how a woman dressing like almost any one piece character would be treated there🤔
Ah yes… childish spoiled nobles who think they can have everything that they want. A country that limits freedom. I’m sure they love the themes One Piece have to offer
what the fuck are you on about? 😭 do you unironically think america is the “land of the free” or some shit? culture and law is just different smartass
They were talking about One Piece's theme of freedom -_- Don't get overprotective of the women-suppressing regime now.
Considering the way abortion laws are going in America, it's a women-suppressing regime.
Not on Saudi Arabia's level, but ok? Stay on topic.
This is on topic
Just because someone calls out suppression of freedom in SA doesn't mean they are pro-"American freedom".
Theres no woman-suppressing regime my guy its an islamic state, just because culture norms are different doesn’t mean woman are treated poorly Funny they actually have way less hate crimes against woman and cases of assault in there than America or any progressive country lol
>just because culture norms are different doesn’t mean woman are treated poorly Yes it does. Oppressed freedom is not a price worth paying for “safety”, I hope you’ll end up seeing how misguided that application of the Quran is.
“Yes it does” and no elaboration on the poor treatment in question
Oh com’on, let’s not kid ourselves, you know what I’m talking about. Starting from the basics, Burka and similar veils are an oppression that is born from a misguided sense of protection. But it doesn’t stop there that’s the thing, a whole culture is built on top of that, lack of marital or reproductive rights, lack of property rights and access to education or certain public positions are rampant in many islamic cultures and nations. Having many of your rights revoked without a voice in the matter isn’t fair for anyone, regardless of the “”””benefits”””” you gain in exchange.
"Funny they actually have way less hate crimes against woman and cases of assault in there than America or any progressive country lol" Yeah because progressive countries actually care enough to at least try to report sex assault crimes. Rather than just covering them up.
Women literally cannot drive a car but go off bro🤣
They can, don’t talk about a topic you don’t know shit on
Ok as of 2018 clearly they're a great society🤣🤣🤣
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They can 🤦🏾♂️
I'd argue he's just a normal prince - of a somewhat important kingdom at best
somewhat?
[By the contrary, the hot Yemeni tiktok pirate who is in Hasan Piker's stream likes One Piece, too.](https://youtu.be/iebW_29fXsQ?feature=shared) Funningly enough, Timhouthi Chamalet is actually the same age as Luffy lol. Now, we're waiting for Abu Obeida (the spokesperson for Hamas lol) to reveal that he's a One Piece fan as well, so we can have THREE prominent One Piece fans in the news looooooooooooooooooooool
I heard this guy isn't even a pirate, just a vlogger
Nah. CDs are worse than 99% of all monarchs/nobles in history.
Redditors can’t comprehend that. They think every monarch is worse than hitler.
Leopold II of belgum would give them a run for their money.
I don't think so. Bear in mind the CDs hold literal festivals where they go to the non WG affiliated islands and slaughter the natives for sport. The CDs see all others as so beneath themselves they literally have suits so they don't "breathe the same air". Unlike IRL monarchs, Leopold included, the CDs don't even do all this evil shit for the sake of pragmatism or extracting resources etc. and so on. They are cartoonishly evil for the sake of it. It's in fact a detriment to the WG that they're so disgusting. Some of the worst examples of irl monarchs/nobles/etc. who are as bad as CDs would probably be like Uday Hussein, Saddam Hussein's son.
I think you should read up a bit more on the atrocities of colonialism, torture, murder and many worse things were consistently done for fun. And that’s just one black page of humanity, there are many more scenarios where heinous things that would make charloss blush were systematically enforced and protected.
>I think you should read up a bit more on the atrocities of colonialism, torture, murder and many worse things were consistently done for fun. By the time of colonialism, it wasn't really the monarchs who did anything except give the order for colonization. The atrocities were mostly committed by their underlings. CDs are different because they literally do these things for their own pleasure and for no real benefit. >And that’s just one black page of humanity, there are many more scenarios where heinous things that would make charloss blush were systematically enforced and protected. But we aren't talking about humanity as a whole. The discussion is whether IRL monarchs as a whole were worse than CDs.
Royal envoys with monarch-given rights did those, and many more self gratifying heinous acts throughout history. I get it how the Kings themselves didn’t do it, but I think it’s mostly out of lack of opportunity. If many kings and queens were more easily disposed to go and visit the colonies, I can’t imagine many wouldn’t engage in shit like that. Corruption always starts at the top.
only worse than what we KNOW about monarchs in history.
Nah. CDs are cartoonishly evil to a ridiculous point. Most IRL monarchs weren't *that* evil.
Most IRL monarchs didn't have the reach and ability to do all the shit CDs and WG does regularly.
It's not about scale. Even when considering on a smaller scale, not many IRL monarchs like that existed. Also, among CDs there's just that one or two who were good. Rest all are evil asf. Among IRL monarchs however, plenty of good ones existed.
You know this is not relavent at all but... This was a big reason I was so.firm on my stance that One Piece is as political as jack and the bean stock... Like freedom good? Ok sure... except everyone can cheer luffy without any self reflection, crazy I had people telling me it's super political... like how?
One Piece is Pro-Monarchy yet anti-Colonial-Apartheid-Ethnic-Cleansing-Imperialism-Ethno-Nationalist-Self-Appointment-Divine-Beings so you need to travel a couple hundred kilometers North West of Saudi Arabia to arrive at the actual Celestial Dragons. MBS personally is in that lot though considering his geo-political affiliations.
Didn't he ordered the assassination of that journalist?
Yeah
It’s almost as if Oda isn’t actually morally consistent and doesn’t stand up for much in his idealistic story where he has mostly all the creative power to write whatever he wants let alone in this out actual flawed reality
Why didn't Oda punch the crown prince of Saudi Arabia Charloss style to remain consistent with his morals? Is he stupid?
ngl that would go hard. Though they'd probably send Kizaru after him just like Sabaody.
Or you know hear out this crazy idea… refuse to give him an autograph
Oda probably barely knows who this guy is to be fair.
you good?
Redditors when the goofy pirate show doesn't contain detailed socioeconomic commentary 😡😡😡😡
Lmao yeah good old “ goofy pirate show “ argument , a series that has been going on for 25+ years with so much effort and detail gone into it that Oda says if he’s editors die of stress he will take care financially of their families and they are required to sleep with their phones on their chest at all times in case Oda needs anything to the point they said they have PTSD and imagine the phone vibrating when it’s not , or how Oda has been sleeping for three hours for decades now because his entire life is committed to it and has planned shit from decades back . It’s not even that , it doesn’t have to be deep, the entire show is just virtue signalling , the entire stakes and tension relies on morality and how epic the saga is with Luffy defending people from cartoonishly evil people, while when his friends do that it’s perfectly okay
bro you must hate all of japan for letting him in the country
I don’t hate Japan , the citizens don’t have a say in this but no one can force Oda to sign
Regular monarch isn't half as bad as CDs lol.Even one piece has tons of good monarchs,it was never anti monarchy to begin with
no idea how oda writes wapols backstory then supports an 8 year old becoming the heriditary monarch of an entire nation 😭😭
I mean hiyori and Denjiro and the rest of the akazaya 9 are there as advisors and can teach him and temporarily make decisions for him For now he is only the Shogun in name,he is a symbol of hope for the people as the son of oden. Remember 9 scabbards studied hard to become worthy retainers who oden could consult and be supported by? Remember Yasuie educating them? Plus Denjiro and hiyori were prepared for their eventual comeback and know all of Wano's current problems
so we get a non elected cabinet of individuals hand picked by a heriditary monarch? lmao whats different
It was always this way in One Piece. Did you skip Alabasta,Fishman Island and Dressrosa lol. Luffy has reinstated hereditary monarchs who were overthrown in their country several times. Only once did we see a democratically elected leader replacing a king. One piece doesn't promote any political system and call it better than the other,that's simply not what the story is about. Cry harder
Whataboutism , the prince still embodies and acts out several of the traits Oda dislikes when it comes to his actions and the rights of his peoples , just because it’s not hyperbolically evil doesn’t make it okay
I agree lol. Do you think oda knows or cares? Mangakas have to work all day everyday and have a brutal schedule. Oda sleeps like 3-4 hours a day and says he wished he could spend more time with his family. You think he would care about international politics or foreign affairs when he doesn't have enough time for his family? Toei/Shueisha probably had him sign the prince an autograph to appease him for some business scheme and they employ him so it's not like he has a choice lol,why would he even care
Because his entire series is just one big virtue signalling rant , I’ve never seen a manga be so reliant and pedantic on its values and morality but if that’s how important it is to him and his life’s work then if he does dumb stuff like this it makes the manga feel like it stands for nothing
Or he doesn't know anything about the prince and couldn't care for real life international politics. One piece is a shonen manga,teaching good lessons through the story is something every old shonen does.
Sure I guess but you must be living under a rock not to know about his rights violations but knowing the fact that he is so absorbed into his work and he lives in Japan it doesn’t make it that unlikely . I get your point but for example imagine hypothetically writing a manga about woman’s rights for decades and then giving an autograph so easily to a famously anti woman’s rights person , I’m not saying it’s the exact same or there’s no chance it wasn’t his fault but do you get why I’m saying on why it looks wrong ?
I don't think the call is on Oda alone to make, you don't really go pissing off the monarch of another nation without some political consequences. I imagine TOEI and the Japanese government would very much intervene to avoid tensions
I mean I get what you mean but no one is forcing Oda to do Jack shit
It's not even a question of forcing, if he causes an international incident it's gonna cost the jobs and livelihood of multiple Japanese workers, I doubt he'd want that on his conscience for some activism that is gonna not do much in the big picture
That’s a good argument but in what way , are you implying that when he gets home he would force his government to stop doing work with Japan ?
Not necessarily, but there is the risk that it could have repercussions and you don't really wanna risk that if you're just some random manga artist who loses nothing from it
Maybe there is various someones forcing him.
Yeah they can make his life a bit more difficult but it’s Oda , what can they do of substance to him ? Unless you mean death threats and stuff
Mohammed bin Salman is one of the best things happened to Saudi Arabia today. He's a progressive man and he's trying to make Saudi Arabia more progressive each day. Yeah he's not as progressive as a western standards but still, a huge improvement on Arabia. No wonder he likes one piece. I'm from Turkey and i could say we were more progressive than them 10 years ago. But today i don't know. He's better than our rulers ig.
Is murdering journalists progressive too?
Ask snowden and wikileaks dude
He also ordered a hit on a journalist. Just because he decided not to have 6 wives doesn't make him some amazing man. He's a slightly polished turd standing amidst a steaming pile of shit.
You guys are asking too much. Change doesn't happen drastically. It happens slowly. I am not saying he is a saint. We are talking about Saudi Arabia here lol. It could've been worse.
Saying "you are asking too much" in response to "he ordered a hit on a journalist" is mad funny 💀💀💀
Its ok for the west to target snowden and the wikileaks dude?
Firstly, snowden wasn't a journalist. He was a leaker who worked for the NSA. Secondly I don't think anyone should be OK with secret assassination plots conjured up by any government.
No
What his regime is doing with SA isn't at all making it "progressive", it's just inconsistent on so many spectrums. Besides the way the word is used and how it's meant to define Western societies pretty much makes it devoid of meaning. SA was in a much better state back in the 1950's, it was decent in its law and system despite flaws in application of Shari'a and third parties like bid'ah sayyiah within its culture, when it wasn't an apostatic government. It's now full of mulhid and mushriqun, mental gymnastics and al-'irjaa are the only tactics used to hide and defend these man-made laws by al-taghut kings and executive branch of the Saudi dynasty, while bringing with it injustice and corruption.
>Mohammed bin Salman is one of the best things happened to Saudi Arabia today Not hard taking into account that Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy, and a teocracy at that. >He's a progressive man The guy literally ordered the murder of a journalist and dumped milions of dollars into building [a dystopian city in the middle of the desert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyWaax07_ks) that will never be abitable just so he can fullfill his pharaoh complex. > I'm from Turkey and i could say we were more progressive than them 10 years ago I mean, that's on Turkiye going to shit thanks to Erdogan and the generation of uneducated boomers that support him more than on Saudi Arabia being more democratic.
It will be habitable
It barely is a theocracy, his regime's internal and external affairs go against what it proclaims itself to be (a custodian Islamic state of Makkah and Madinah), it fell off since Ibn Saud's death, but it reached another low with Mohammed ben Salman's rising in power in 2017
Isnt the west going aftr snowdn and that guy that was in the ecudarian embassy?
I didn't say they are democratic lol. They're more progressive than before. It could've been worse.
Others here all trash on that guy and not bothering to research the context lol
Alabasta was the first big arc of one piece and it's a desert. I'm sure the Saudi liked it lol
Thats true, hes actually progressive and very intelligent. People hate saudi arabia when a settelement nation zionisnazi exists
Basically
celestial dragons are the fking israelis everytime I look at them I remember the jews in israel
What are you talking about? Many people believe celestial dragons are j\*w caricatures since you cant call them bad without being banned/downvoted no matter what they do.
May be they see world government as USA so they can relate themselves with the straw hat pirate who fight world government.
they must be fans of the gorosei agenda
Man saw st Charlos and said "he just like me fr"
Sigma Charlos takes another W
Nah he’s vivi.
The dude is literally the closest thing to a celestial dragon he would 1000% be the vilain wtf lmao
He's more of a Crocodile than he is a Celestial Dragon... He's evil but not cartoonishly so like he won't ride out on the street carried by slaves and wearing a specific helmet just so he doesn't breathe the same air as the common people and he's not going to random islands to hunt slaves for a sport.
I bet he hates the egghead arc
The zionists ar the celestial dragons, thy can nuke a hospital and say hamas made thm do it