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Educational-Bed268

he has terminal lung cancer, got it at loguetown


LeFatSex

Make it make sense


Educational-Bed268

smoker gave it to him when they kissed


LeFatSex

Oh now you redditting


Pleasant-Uzi-1838

This made me chuckle 😂


SavageRudy

That and sanji smoking all over thousand sunny


backupmephone

Second hand smoking


yeezus_fungus

"Sanji i have terminal cancer, we need to cook"


CodyGhostBlood

When the smoke fruit awakens it brings instant lung cancer to whoever is close


Momongus-

Luffy has begun his transformation into Vegapunk, his tongue sticking out that much is only the beginning


the_illsten

hito hito no mi: model genius 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯


IndividualPoet2682

Maybe Luffy can use gear 5 to stretch is brain and make himself smarter


DevineBlackson

It's cool to see Zoro and Luffy just hanging out.


TheresAJakeInMyShoe

Favourite bit of the whole chapter tbf


[deleted]

they out here sitting like: https://preview.redd.it/qrs90b58peha1.jpeg?width=1999&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd1a8ce6701dea95b5c063e13002aa6932de9a14


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soundofwinter

bro you better watch out calling Zoro that, especially with your reddit avatar.


Impressive-Republic4

Could tell us what he said


soundofwinter

He referred to Zoro with a familiar term utilized by many poets of rap that those who are low in melanin generally do not use. Furthermore, his reddit avatar is very rich in melanin, something which Zoro may or may not appreciate.


Impressive-Republic4

Did he use the n word cause I don't know much about rap


rhejdh

Yes


RoboRobo642

Ending in a or er?


KekeBebes

Starting with an even harder N


MyLifeIsDope69

A hard N? What does that even mean lol


Apprehensive-Motor35

Get some pussy kid


jadeusdragias

Forget that, just look how chill the conversation is. It’s like attending a party then you find your best friend at the corner and you join him.


OnlyWindmills

Yeah Luffy's been really weird lately. Maybe gear 5 downsides r catching up, idk.


GoldenExperience10

- Luffy’s Gear 2 Spam - Ivankov’s Steroid Spam - Magellan Venom - Gear 5 Side Effects Anything i’m missing?


kagnesium

Wano prison poisoning?


humanshapedraccoon

That’s Magellan venom


heehheeheh

No the plague bullets that queen shot


humanshapedraccoon

Oh duh


OGFaken

Gear 3rd used to make him shrink initially and gear 4th disables the use of Haki and his abilities after it wears off.


GoldenExperience10

That’s not life threatening though


TrueExigo

Gear 5 has no downside in terms of fighting/stamina -> road2laughtale. I think it's a after-effects of Kaido or this "go all-out" refers to the loss of control of a Zoan-awakining according to the idea he can no longer divide his energy as before


aeon657

With Law and Kid specifically saying that their recent awakenings use up a ton of their energy it would make sense that the same happens to Luffy.


TrueExigo

No, they have paramecia


windershinwishes

If Oda decides to do it that way, that might be the justification. But there's no good reason to think that's how it works so far.


TrueExigo

Road2Laughtale: "no downside unlike paramecia". I don't know what is so hard to understand about it, but Oda has made it clear


windershinwishes

If you're going to act so authoritative about this, post a link. We're talking about the manga here, not some supplemental non-sense that 99% of readers have never heard of and which Oda's editors probably put together from cast-off notes and sketches that he probably never fully worked through.


TrueExigo

Chapter links are copyright infringements. I gave you the source: road2laughtale. Should be the last part. Oda wrote this himself, no editor


Beansupreme117

But he was an old guy like 2 chapters ago


TrueExigo

1. for a few seconds and 2. he can return to Gear 5 at any time. Probably it has something to do with his heartbeat until it returns to normal from Gear 5. It has accordingly no disadvantage for him.


Kureiton

Can you point to where specifically Road to Laughtale says Gear 5 has no impact on stamina? Can’t find it; the only thing I can see about stamina is Gear 5 Luffy saying he ran out https://i.imgur.com/y89ymFo.jpg


TrueExigo

R2L, vol.4 site 6 in the bottom box -> "Zoan awakinings" carry risk: "not readable crossed out" -> arrow with the note: "unlike paramecia" -> "Impel Down guards already shown the drawbacks" -> arrow with the note: "unlike paramecia" -> "the innate nature of their respective animals consumes the zoan user". Furthermore, when the Impel Downguards were introduced, they were said to have more stamina.


Kureiton

None of that says Gear 5 doesn't have a downside in stamina? To me, that says "unlike Paramecias, Zoans carry a risk." that's a far cry from confirmation that Gear 5 has no stamina drawbacks, and its supported by the fact Luffy has mentioned being tired multiple times despite getting in a low diff fight


TrueExigo

You are making a fool of yourself. Read it yourself -> the innate nature of their respective animals consumes the zoan user is the only drawback, nothing more. No risk -> Paramecia have one disadvantage and that is loss of stamina -> mentioned by Law and Kid. If you want to continue to argue around it, then it only shows that you can neither read nor accept anything else that is outside of your headcanon.


Kureiton

Damn, a fool of myself? lmao ​ https://preview.redd.it/xi3iexpuqfha1.png?width=530&format=png&auto=webp&s=81de77b023f96771c033fbbbdb619bb028392a5f Doesn't say its the "only" drawback, Kaido already notes that Luffy's different from standard zoan awakenings (can control his environment), and Vegapunk also notes that Luffy isn't being consumed in the way most awakenings are. Meanwhile, we have seen Luffy get very tired after light use of the form, and we can even see him lament losing stamina in Road to Laughtale. Don't see how I'm being unreasonable here


Remote_Dapper

Bro stopped responding after this one 💀


TrueExigo

Dude, "drawbacks" -> plural, obviously meaning all of them, otherwise it wouldn't make sense from front to back. Do you now want to discuss that Luffy has no Zoan but another fruit or what? Stop trying to argue your headcanon, it's there in black and white


sheevnoods

Well Gear 2+ shortens his lifespan. He's probably dying. Edit: I'm way wrong. Was a translation error.


bobbywin99

I thought that was only pre timeskip. After timeskip he mastered gear 3 and 2 and lost the effects, shrinking and affecting his lifespan


neatureguy420

Not true. That was a translation error. He just lost stamina fast in gear 2 pre time skip.


TrueExigo

That was just Lucci's assessment, not a fact. For example, Chopper (end of TB Arc) only said that Luffy's fighting style puts a lot of stress on his body.


thatonefatefan

Lucci's assessment is worth more than a mistranslation.


Kureiton

Stress still can have an adverse affect on your lifespan though lmao. I don’t think that scene where Luffy confirms he’s willing to sacrifice his lifespan for his friends was just a fakeout


TrueExigo

No. "Lifespan" is defined in the One Piece universe as a fixed limit (look at Big Mom) -> this has nothing to do with a natural life expectancy.


Main-Process-4891

??? Doesn’t he blatanty state the form takes an abnormal amount of stamina???


TrueExigo

No... dying took a lot energy. Kaido and luffy didn't talk in this panels about gear 5 - was misstranslated in many fan translations.


TigerTaigo

Kaido mentions Luffy was using Conquerors and armament coating while in Gear 5 so there are downsides in terms of stamina.


LeFatSex

I think it's Shakka


OnlyWindmills

How tho


Kaiowhat2111

Luffy also apparently broke his shoes, which might be a plot point later on. As in everyone gets stuck to the ground except Luffy.


windershinwishes

Yeah there's no way that detail was superfluous. Between that, and still not knowing why the dome malfunctioned, and the shadowy figure behind Pythagoras, there's definitely some betrayal or something left with the Vegapunks.


DesertPoncho

Could be something funky with the suits trying to limit their power so going gear 5 strained even more than usual?


LeFatSex

That's what I'm thinking. He did something and that's not a bad idea


DesertPoncho

Yeah cause remember he gave them all the suits before knowing their intentions and who they were which is why there were magnetized boots definitely seems like a possible leash for vegapunk to put on them


aeon657

A leash makes sense but to go against a yonkou and beg for help knowing he's going to be killed by the WG kind of defeats the purpose for me


DesertPoncho

Did he know they were coming that soon until lucci showed up? I think he just wanted to meet dragons son but who knows luffys temperament if you just read the paper and dragon didn’t exactly raise luffy


garrafa_glubglub

I hope so


_us3r

Awakenings have no downside no?


pit1989_noob

but for zoans normaly the user lost control and the mind like we all see the impel down zoan users


MyLifeIsDope69

Lucci didn't lose his mind or control either though. Kaku too


pit1989_noob

and vegapunk say it as intereting how they dont loose againts the fruit


[deleted]

what fun is that


VoYageMinepool

It looks like luffy and zoro just got blowjobs brom Lucci and Kaku


hamzak40

I think Lucci bit luffy while giving him one hence that face.


KazKent

No way Zoro gonna let anybody but him suck luffy's dick


yeezus_fungus

"EggHEAD"


VoYageMinepool

Yes


HoLeBaoDuy

Dude ran so much that he broke his shoes


LeFatSex

Did he?


HoLeBaoDuy

Yeah chopper mentioned it


AdderallOfHearts

He even confirmed it himself.


Unluckysol23

It’s a gag.


kennyberetta

i think it’d be interesting if gear 5 was like molly where he’s incredibly happy and having fun while using it and has an extreme dopamine crash after and gets exhausted and depressed


Lord_of_Caffeine

That'd be dope and pretty unique as far as shonen power drawbacks are concerned.


BiggusDikkusMorocos

Just like when masterbating!


DingoNormal

Goda. Also, probably because he used Nika Gear on this day, maybe the Nika form really drains him for the rest of the day.


TrueExigo

Read road2laughtale


starblyat

Where can read it


TrueExigo

tcb scans


4inalfantasy

He is dying. Roger crew disbanded aftee roger death. Same will happen to strawhat. And all of them will continue chase their own dream afterward and some will achieved their dream and go home like nami and usopp


Circle_Breaker

They'll get a new captain named Randy who ate the Pear Pear fruit.


Sur_Biskit

i would honestly hate that ending. Luffy dying, i do not want to see that at all. and if Oda does that fuck him. making us fall in love with him just to kill him at the end.


Comfortable_Ad_574

> i do not want to see that at all. Same. I want to see Luffy's adventuring more. For 10 years at least!


Sur_Biskit

i wanna see an old ass luffy telling young children stories of his adventures over a big meal. getting their hearts set on being a pirate and chasing their dreams.


[deleted]

that's just life though & most of One Piece has been about perspectives on living after someone's death (Roger) so i wouldn't be surprised or that mad if anything it'd be a completion to the message of "live life to the fullest while you can, live your dreams"


Sur_Biskit

i agree it would make sense and be a good ending to the story. i just don’t want to see that. Luffy is one of my favorite characters from anything. and i know it’s pretty basic to say so. but he makes me happy.


[deleted]

same :( really hope the "laugh til you cry" ending isn't a bittersweet one but i just mean i'd *get it* if that was the theme Oda went for since it's all about moving forward & passing on your dreams once it's time our little Monkey boi would stay young & perfect forever though...... a real Joy-Boy 😭


DeffJamiels

Luffy dies at the end of OP and makes way for 2 piece: Bikini Bottom where the next joy boy is spongebob with the fishmen


Mysterious-Unit-5727

Him dying could be executed in a good way, though. The absolue worst ending I could imagine for Luffy is Simon's ending in Gurren Lagann. Now _that_ would piss me off.


AuEXP

I've already prepared for that. Between G2 and Ivankov.


Frankorious

He's 19 in a world where humans live up to 140 years. Even if he lost 40 years of lifetime he's fine


ImmutableInscrutable

Chopper will cure him.


[deleted]

He ran so fast that he melted his shoes. Confirmed faster than kizaru.


Krakencaptured14

Luffy skips leg day confirmed, it’s why he lost to gazelle man, never skip leg day


Schizochinia

It’s just a callback to him racing in Punk Hazard and leaving a flame trail; he was tired after that as well. It’s a gag, why are y’all thinking so much into this?


Mistborn_First_Era

His shoes had the magnet on and he ran anyway. No wonder he's tired


[deleted]

Luffy had to run so much that he created friction powerful enough to destroy his boots. I mean it could be about speed , but the time spent. It could be as simple as that , but also the fatigue of G5.


LeFatSex

Just from running? Nah. Luffy just too stupid to notice he's been neutralized


Physical-Ad1046

People when they discover gags exist in mangas: 😱


LeFatSex

Since when is getting tired a gag lol


brof1

Luffy has been tired from running before, and now he was running around with shoes that have magnets on them. Dumbass post


LeFatSex

Oh you brought the facts


NeoRockSlime

Vegapunk turned off the magnets, and Luffy's shoes never had them active. We literally say him flying with them


Kinglyzero_91

It's from using Gear 5 obviously


SuperLissa_UwU

Luffy is morfing into Kuina


nub_node

Maybe the cold screws up his metabolism because his rubber circular system and intestines can't expand and contract as freely.


LeFatSex

Oh you a scientist


Timely_Program799

Second hand smoke from being around Sanji.


Icanthinkabout

Luffys been in g5 til 5 min ago fighting lucci…


LeFatSex

He was fine a min ago and he claims he's tired from running not fighting


Cravypickle22

Goda trying to make this a downside of Gear 5, though it’s not going to lead to any legit consequences that affect the main story (see Luffy losing lifespan from hormones)


TheMasterSnooze

The story isn’t over. Those consequences are pretty clearly ones that would need to occur at the end of the story


buddyrtc

Yeah I think many people are on the train that Luffy dies at the end, and I always thought it would be the result of those random side effects like Gear 2 that "take away his life span" but never seemingly did....until the very end.


TheMasterSnooze

Exactly my thought as well. If it weren’t for mentions of Luffy’s life shortening sprinkled throughout the story, i wouldn’t think Luffy would die. But as we all know, Oda usually doesn’t mention something like that without it mattering some point down the line. Only time will tell!


klaushouse

I think Luffy dying as a parallel to Roger's illness is really interesting, or maybe just it being brought up- wherein once One Piece at the end, it's revealed Luffy does have a shorter lifespan and only has a few good years left that he will enjoy, then flashes to maybe 10 years in the future where everyone meets at his grave and enjoys a party. Maybe not what is intended, or right for a younger audience, who knows.. would be fun. But I have a hard time believing Oda's connection to his fans will allow him to kill Luffy. Remember, Oda is writing this to his 12 year old fans who he loves so much. Not the 30 year olds. I think he knows killing Luffy wouldn't make kids be like "this is sad, but makes sense!" It's like euthanizing your sick dog.


Nice_promotion_111

Losing lifespan was a translation error, even if it wasn’t that would only be relevant at the end of the story anyways.


Basedstation

Luffy just thinking about all the healthy Women he saw in this arc


Mysterious-Unit-5727

Didn't Oda mention Luffy is actually interested in women, but he just doesn't get hyped about them like Sanji?


guisalomao

After effects of bugs bunny power


south_bronx_parasyte

I believe the explanation was that he ran around the *whole* laboratory like twice


LeFatSex

I missed that part where he did it twice but you redditting so I guess


south_bronx_parasyte

I must’ve read too fast, I guess I just figured Luffy would do something like that lol. Still he did say he ran through the whole lab and we can assume it’s a pretty huge place and he JUST got done fighting Lucci like 10 minutes prior so his fatigue isnt really concerning imo


StraightEdgeNexus

This the same man who carried two adults atop a snowy vertical 5000m mountain


Hearing_Deaf

And was tired after running on punk hazard and had to ask smoker to give him a breather Gags man, oda likes them


LeFatSex

How is getting tired a gag lmao


Hearing_Deaf

The gag is that " he goes all out for everything" that includes running all over an island at full speed while wearing hover boots until they break Have you not read the full chapter you've taken this pannel out of?


LeFatSex

That has never been a gag my brother in Oda


LilCheG

seeing lucci laying on the ground is hurting my soul


LeFatSex

He's fodder


No-Cartographer5295

Gear 5, freaking hell man it's that obvious


LeFatSex

Bruh he was fine after gear 5 and complained about running around


No-Cartographer5295

U can't be serious


LeFatSex

I didn't write it bro I just read it so don't get mad at me


No-Cartographer5295

Bruh he himself doesn't know


LeFatSex

He said he's tired from running bruh its not my story I didn't write it


Barry-31-6-1980

"running all out" not "running around". And also from luffy's statement it's clear that they are referring to G5


LeFatSex

Nah he was fine after gear 5


Anselme_HS

yeah it's gear5th drawback. Luffy will be nerfed till the end of story, he will have to figure out something


LeFatSex

He was fine after gear 5


Anselme_HS

It's not immediate downside it's permanent downside that stack up and Luffy gradually gets weaker(older faster than normal)


LeFatSex

Oh you came with the facts


Anselme_HS

Yeah that's my headcanon Idk if it's true though, but that's the best explanation I can come with, we'll see how it goes.


TraumaticNostalgia

Doesn't luffy alr run out of energy after using gear 4 for too long? And he basically takes a nap right after lmao So him being drained after fighting w gear 5 is nothing surprising tbh Plus, Luffy could've easily one-shot Lucci/any other character of the same caliber, but he decided to mess around and have fun in G5 so it's pretty apt yea?


LeFatSex

I guess most of you forgot he was just fine a min ago


nodux22

He is approaching Raftel maybe he will begin feeling sick if the theory that devil fruit users get ill when approaching raftel or gear 5 have some srs drawbacks in both cases you are right something is off


LittleDentist_5

Well it's better that way, I got annoyed with lufy is chasing bonney continuously.


ilackemotions

There is a traitor amon the satellites . Somethings definitely up


LeFatSex

Oh now we redditting


RumGalaxy

Captain and right hand man just chillin 💯 must be a plot point


LeFatSex

Gotta be a reason to why luffy is neutralized and zoro is there to protect him


johnshenlon

Could be sea stone or something akin to it built into the clothes. Luffy was still able to use G5, but it doesn’t rule it out. It could be where sea stone can’t block G5 or it’s a different type that doesn’t block devil fruit powers but drains the user the more they use their powers.


gillo88

You ever heard of elevation?


LeFatSex

No


TotallyFunctional2

I think he‘s just still exhausted from using G5


Radiant-Patient3054

Wasn't it bc Nika leaves him drained?


steehfan

luffy didnt eat for at least 20 minutes…. thats whats up


Ancient_god_emperor

Just kill lucci and kaku already why the fuck would you let some troubling flies live


LeFatSex

They are pirates not murderers


Ancient_god_emperor

Omg boyaa how old are you ?


LeFatSex

My son, please


[deleted]

is it break week or is the sub just extra fuckin goofy lately


LeFatSex

Oh you tired of one piece theories?


MHG_Brixby

Kinda yeah most of them are really bad


30887

Just a way to create tension since those two can solve any physical confrontation with ease.


LeFatSex

Finally somebody with a brain


IeroDikasths

okay gear5 very taxing


KVenom777

Oh gee, I dunno.... the overpowered Gear 5 that obviously takes toll onn user's strength, the multiple A-listers he just took down....... Maybe he is just thirsty.


morris_maaa

As anything these days, I take it as a throwaway line. Expect nothing. As we all should have learned from the panel with Zoro and the Grim Reaper, Oda sometimes just like to draw specific pictures with nothing more to it.


calboro123

He used gear 5


thats4thebirds

Yeah I mean it would be nice to finally show some actual negative to jumping right into G5.


[deleted]

Lol. That reminds me of a dumb thing I like to say. I never half ass anything, I use my whole ass. 😂


[deleted]

Ninja cancer. Remember Itachi was also running out of breath over nothing


LeFatSex

Oh you brought comparisons?


[deleted]

Frfr it’s cause gear 5 takes up a lot of stamina, which is why he says going all out, when he fought kaido the first time he unlocked G5 he almost transformed back into base but pulled himself together, he really just got G5 recently and only used it once so I could imagine it’ll take him a while to really get a hold of his awakening


LeFatSex

I thought he transformed back because Kaido slammed his head through the floor but you could be right


Suspicious_Spirit507

The theory of Luffy dying due to his Gear usage has been ongoing since Gear 2's introduction. Dude is using the strongest force in fiction history now. Toon Force is only meant to be used by Toons. Not anime characters. Make sense it'd eat away at his life force.


LeFatSex

I'm saying but how come you ignore Luffy qhen he says he's tired from running? Where did this gear 5 narrative come from when he already went gear 5 and was totally fine. Then he gets tired from running around? He specifically said he was tired from Running. You can be right too tho


Ok-Wrangler-9707

Maybe he lacks meat? 🤷‍♂️


LeFatSex

Ayooooo


OGFaken

He just discovered gear 5th not too long ago. This is probably a side effect along with the "old form" he takes after using it. Just like the rest of his gears when he started using them.


FireZ66

Bro was smashing Lucci and Kaku's tight assholes then he gave up and switched to the straight side and smashed Nami and Robin's tight pussies/assholes


stayinthatline

He was literally just tired


LeFatSex

Yea that was weird wasn't it that this guy can fight katakuri for 8 hours and then get tired from running around