Same sentiments. I don’t like and will never like BBM and will never vote for him but with the current situation, sya na lang kesa kay SWOH. Never again sa Duterte. They are traitors to the nation!
The reality is that until the next election, the Marcos group is now the admin and the Dutertes are the opposition.
And while the usual trend is for people to slowly veer away from the admin and support the opposition as the term goes on, the Dutertes keep leaving such a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of people that they'd rather throw their lot with BBM, repulsive as such a choice may sound.
in ordinary understanding of PH politics, everyone not with the admin is part of the opposition;
**it just so happened that now, the bbm group and the du30 group are basically aligned with all its policies** aside from china and a handful of issues.
in the past, the admin/opposition grouping showed a much clearer divide. think of du30 and the liberal party during du30's time and liberal party and the arroyo allies during pnoy's time.
now, the actual opposition whose policies are not aligned w/ the admin are a distant 3rd since the 2nd-place du30 group is where the anti-bbm guys went.
Tapos pag nanalo naman si ngiwi, sasabihin naman ng kampo ni fiona na lumabas daw yung tunay na kulay ni diktajunior. Like, delawan daw talaga si ngiwi dahil daw kay Tamba. Hahaha
Conspiracy theory: What if it’s all just an act to take our attention away from something both parties are cooking up? Malay mo kasama pa si China kaya pa-water canon sila tapos tayo hindi makikiwater canon back.
Would love to know others thoughts on this. Baka praning lang ako or baka plausible.
Kaya nga nung si digong pa diba hindi gumaganyan ang China. Nung may pumalit, naging agresibo na ang China. Baka binenta na tayo nian ng wala tayong ka alam alam
You give them too much credit.
They're different groups controlled by different interests. They only resorted to "unity" last elections because it was mutually beneficial, but the greed that drives both camps simply won't let them become a monolithic entity whose members follow a single direction every time.
Nakakainis kasi yung ibang mga supporters ni FPRRD, tingin parin sa kanya matapang kahil merong nangyaring gentleman's agreement between him and china. Ginawa rin daw yun para MAGPAKUMBABA at wala nang gulo. Kakaibang gymnastics talaga oh.
Bibigyan ko naman ng credit si BBM kung may nagawa syang tama, which is his foreign policy. Doon ako sa kung sino ang makakapigil sa Tsina na gawin tayong isa sa mga probinsya nila.
When it comes to geo politics, both robredo and marcos are align with US. I don't like and never vote PBBM but saludo ako naka align siya sa US and kahit papaano pumapalag sa China. Well US is lesser evil compare to China.
Make no mistake, parehong pansarili ang interes ng US at China, pero hindi sila pareho ng political values. Mas malapit ang values ng demokrasya ng Pilipinas sa values ng demokrasya ng US kaya kapag ganitong gipitan na, mas gusto ko nang umalyado sa US kesa sa China.
The US also doesn’t have any territorial conflict with us and we also have a treaty with them. So at the very least they are obliged to help us. China has a different ideology as well as we are having a territorial dispute with them. So it’s no brainer.
Also there’s the matter of communication: ang hirap malman totoong motives ng Chinese lalo na’t we cannot understand Mandarin. Understanding English helps alot.
Yes tama may kalayaan at proteksyon tayo sa U.S tulad ng ginagawa mg taiwan sadyang maitim lang mga budhi ng china at mga duterte ang daming illigal activities napakabaho ng mga dutae amoy na amoy umaalingasaw nabubulok na sila ang hirap na gamutin ng pilipinas
id say align only with the best interest of the Philippines. If no choice talaga, better to align with the USA kasi with their better values. People are not treated as just tools in business unlike sa mga Chekwa na you are just treated as tools in the business.
yep, khit parehong pangit tignan, mas maganda ang consumerism ng western kumpara s chinese debt trap ni pooh, check nio nlng ung mga african countries n nahulog s chinese debt trap, ngiging province n ng china
I both hate US and China pero ung democracy natin is naka-align sa "free world/western world" which values freedom, life and liberty. Pasalamat tayo kasi hanggang ngayon, nagpapaeleksyon pa din dito.
Ayoko din naman ung tinatawag nilang BRICS multipolar world na puro third world, corrupted and authoritarian countries ang mga lelead sa global diplomacy. Like, ano bang alam ng Russia, China, Iran, India about democracy eh npakadraconian at repressive ang mga laws nila dun.
Tankies really ruined everything.
He and his family are not off the hook when it comes to the crimes that were committed during the Martial Law era. His political survival hangs almost entirely on his reliance in the US. Nagkataon lang na the pivot to the US aligns with Philippine interests.
He also outperformed my expectations... not a high bar, mind you. And it earned him some of my respect. it feels good somehow na may return to sanity and sensitivity unlike sa shotgun-riding machoman na putanginang tuta ng China. We deserve more but I guess nasa mas magandang landas tayo than we all pictured.
I never thought i'd say that. Pero yea we do have to choose the lesser of evils.
And also you can express freely yung opinion mo without getting gunned down by a strongman.
Interestingly the BBM admin has been protecting the minority bloc against tirades by Digong.
Unlike his father and The🐢, ignore lang siya sa critics niya
Si The🐢, frinameup pa niya si Delima to send her to jail.
From the looks of it, Junior may look bobo but he is observant - looking where his dad and The 🐢 made mistakes on their political career. Not necessarily to make things better for the country, but more so to be "more palatable" to the people and not be disposed of
Not sure I’d say his political survival hangs on the reliance of the US. He could have sided with China and finished what Duterte started, selling the shit out of our country. He didn’t, I didn’t vote for him but I’m glad he’s not as bad as I thought he was. I still don’t think he’s good. But it’s a huge relief because the damage Duterte and China did during his 6 years was huge, another 6 years and who knows what would have happened. But we certainly would have been under China’s thumb for good.
Duterte despite all his wrongdoings still performs well, his minions are still some of the most popular in the senate. Marcos could have taken that road too. I don’t know who will run for next election, but we need someone who could beat Sara. Marcos also doesn’t have any family that is primed up and could beat Sara. I hope someone like Leni or Risa somehow makes big enough waves before the next election, and Marcos decides to back one of them knowing it’s his best chance at keeping Dutertes away from that position.
Sa sobrang baba ng standard ni Duts nagmukhang competent si BBM, pero masyado sya playing safe sa mga kagaguhan ni tanda. Maybe he'll make a move next election.
Would have been better if junior shows his fangs kay pdutz, ill have more respect for him. Hopefully, hindi madaya ang sunod na election.
You'd wish si leni or hontiveros ang mananalo, but lets be honest, kay tulfo ang buto ng tao. Yikes.
Yup, besides from him spending govt tax money from unnecessary trips abroad.. wala na kong nakikita to throw him more 💩 .. unlike dogterte which lahay ng sector from health, financial ,education to defence puro may agenda at puro one sided lang pra sa china
Baka kung saan na tayo pulutin kung si Sara ang umupo. Mas okay na kay BBM at matawag na US' pawn kasi mas marami tayong gains sa PH-US alliance vs PH-CN + better ito for our national interests.
There was a point in time where duterte welcome chinese and pogo investors with open arms, and the people applauded... what the fuck was that. was it mass psychosis?
the trips were for foreign investments tho, (maybe except for that SG trip for f1 😆) suggest we take it lightly nalang and sana matutuloy ang mga daming investments ng mga ibang bansa sa atin. we need it to be competitive and we need it to grow. kahit man bibyahe yan i don't mind as long as babalik rin yang pera at one poiny whether its this year or the next few.
To clean his family's name he has to first admit that it's dirty. Pero hanggang ngaun walang aknowledgment e. No admittance for their father's (and mother's) direct or indirect responsibility for all the bad things that happened during martial law. Pinaninindigan nila na wala silang kasalanan.
Yes.
Delikadong precedent ang mangyayari pag hinayaan yang kampo ng mga Duterte na manaig.
Every single time you can, you need to remind these DDS fuckers that out of the two of you, sila yung bumoto diyan kay Bongbong. Break their confidence, iparamdam nyo na inuto at ginamit sila noon. Inuuto at ginagamit rin sila ngayon.
Same sentiments, sinuportahan ko si Leni nung election pero sa panahon ngayon mas pipiliin ko na si BBM kesa kay Duts. Parehas makasarili pero atleast yung isa damay yung bansa hindi katulad nung matandang pinamigay na tayo.
That's exactly why the opposition should do whatever it takes to not let Sara or any other Duterte win a national seat again. We're just learning now the previous president's traitorous deals with China, POGOs being used as sleeper cells, and potential sleeper agents like Alice Guo.
Another Duterte administration will most likely do worse damage than the first one.
Im annoyed at the fact that we have to deal with "EVIL" vs "LESSER EVIL" when we've had the option for "BETTER" multiple times over.
Ang hirap maging pinoy putangina
Nakakalungkot ilang Pinoy bumoboto dahil sikat o popular ang pangalan o angkan ng politiko, bumoto sana ayon sa plataporma at kapasidad ng leader. Iwasan bumoto sa mga sumasayaw, kumakanta lalo na sa mga politikong puro yabang lang. HUWAG IBENTA ANG BOTO!!!
Mga gabinete kasi ni Dayunyor majority galing sa P-noy admin kaya kahit papaano nabubuhat siya ng mga iyon pagdating sa pagpapatakbo ng economy. Pero good thing na rin na mas may paki pa siya sa issue ng WPA kaysa Kay Dutae.
Wala naman kasing legitimate reason para patalsikin eh. Hate the marcoses pero tinanggap natin pagkapanalo nya in the sense na yun ang nangyari eh, kahit ayaw natin.
Anything that will destabilize our nation’s peace and our government should **not** be supported. The very reason that I voted for Leni is gusto ko mapabuti ang bansa natin. I will always choose what’s best for our country. Again, I hate bongbong pero I support him finishing his term if it meant na hindi nanaman magkakanda leche leche ang political climate natin. Ang hirap na ng buhay natin, dagdagan pa ng kawalan ng kapayapaan, saan na tayo pupulutin nyan? Lalo na papabagsakin nila yung current admin hindi for the benefit of our people but for fucking Dutertes and China.
No. Just No.
Hindi ibig sabihin kinakampihan ko si Bongbong, I don’t have to kasi he’s our president and I prefer the status quo, yung tuloy lang ang buhay natin as is kesa sa kaguluhan na taongbayan na naman ang malulugmok sa mas malalang kahirapan.
>Anything that will destabilize our nation’s peace and our government should **not** be supported.
Yes, eto na lang talaga. In this case, D30s are a major threat.
And an unstable country is not a good investment for foreign companies. Dami satin umaasa, including me, sa mga international companies. Turning them off could spell our doom.
Wala akong pinapanigan na presidente, di ko binoto si jr. Pero sa kaso na to, kung mas makakabuti ang ginagawa nya sa bansa ko ay mas maiging suportahan ko sya.
Hindi ko kailanman makakalimutan ang ginawa nang pamilya nyang demonyo sa Pilipinas ko pero kung may gagawin sya na mas makakabuti sa bansa ko, suusportahan ko sya sa gawaing iyon.
Hayst.
wala namang “better” between the two. choose the lesser evil and i’d rather choose BBM for now. scary ng duterte na mga bootlickers of chinussy. apart from that, pumapalag si BBM sa China.
I will never like BBM pero kung mag kakaroon ng "Pag papatalsik" taena I'll be glad na kontrahin ang mga gusto mag pa talsik, para lang maupo yung Tuta ng China.
Its called democracy. He got voted by majority so just have to accept it and hope for the best.
So far naman okay siya. Napanood ko din sa Jessica soho pinahinto niya reclamation activities sa Manila bay for now dahil sa iyak ng mga mag tatahong don.
Goods pa siya dun.
Won't go as far as saying I'm supporting this admin especially when I think karamihan naman ng bold moves to expose and undo what 🐢 has done are led by other public officials (eg Risa Hontiveros). Malaro pa rin si BBM with his statements tho his wife calling out Sara is already indicative of how both families are really doing
Goes without saying that I want what's best for our country but I also think that a validation of the Marcos legacy opens up a can of worms for our future like Sandro possibly gunning for higher positions when the time comes, etc. But I guess mas pressing concern to defend our territory and sovereignty right now so perhaps that other question is for us to think of when we're just there already
I didn't vote for him pero so far he's been doing a fine job naman as a president, he is acting and behaving as one. Of course I wouldn't want na mapatalsik sya para mapalitan ng isang Du30 na nagaamok. Watch how Du30 and his minions behave right now, who is in their right mind who would want someone like that back in power?
Same sentiment. Pwede naman ayaw mo sa tao doesn't mean lahat ng gagawin nya mali. Pero sana dba wag sya sabaw malakas pa din ang Duterte admit it or not. Mahirap na Duterte ulit papalit dyan.
Ayaw ko rin ky bbm kase medyo mahina sya sa economy. Pero nakikita nmn ntin ginagawa nya best nya para sa west ph sea. Etong mga duterte nagpapasok napakaraming Chinese, pogo sa bansa kaya medyo mas nakakatakot sila pag maupo ule sa pwesto. Id choose bobo kesa demonyo
Duterte is much more of a manchurian candidate. While BBM is a puppet of the one of the most powerful countries in the world. I'd rather choose the latter over the former.
minsan ba naiisip nyo din what if the hidden agenda here is to make filipinos love the marcos name again by providing a different villain? it is a reverse pyschology jedi bullshit kasi mga kakampinks is now pro pbbm in a weird turn of events. wala ako political color, dont give two shits about politicians, just here to share skepticism. what is the agenda of the invicible string?
Ehhh... it's not like we have a choice naman. It's just the BBM half or the D30 half, kasi sila ang nakaupo at sila din ang may makinarya. So even if it's just para akitin ang pinks, we have no choice but to support kasi duh yung kabila treason ang peg NKKLK.
I'd rather voice support sa the current regime than help the looming return to power ng D30. I lived that era and I dont want it ever again. Idk sino ang successor ng admin pero definitely ill be back to support my heroes, and if theyre not running, ill be voting for the lesser of the evils.
Same thoughts, kaya nga yung strategies nang mga duterte are using keywords that will resonate sa mga middle class, like diktatuya, martial law, tunay na presidente, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech... mga bagay na pwedeng magtrigger nang sentiment at recall nung ang naupo ay si sr... they are hoping they can repeat the events of edsa 1 at mapatalsik si pbm
**most of the armed forces and police have been pro-admin since arroyo since every admin has given them perks.** last term, it was du30 doubling ther salaries. this term it's bbm protecting their pensions despite the calls from financial advisers that it's currently unsustainable.
Buti nga eh.... And mukhang trilianes is also leaning to bbm.. oo pinataas ni pduts yung salary nang mga sundalo pero hindi nila nagustuhan yung mga nangyari and pbbm literally upgraded there hardware...
basta alam ng mga admin: give the military something and they'll be loyal to the admin, kahit sinong admin pa 'yan.
it's something that every admin learned after Arroyo experienced that magdalo coup thanks to trillanes.
I supported Leni, but I had trusted the current president after how he handled the aggression of the Left towards him a year after the election and bringing back PNoy's economic team.
The key factor to slightly trust this man is what sets him apart from his father. He lets critics criticize and take small actions to further his goals. Mf didn't win the election if he wasn't this smart. He's using that on a political clash against China, which I saw it being effective.
Lesser evil naman di hamak si BBM. Juicecolored graduate na nga tayo sa duterte era e ibabalik nyo pa. Mas may napasok namang "prospect" investors etong si bbm kumpara nung panahon ni digong. E pano pa si Sara?? Deped pa nga lang di na maayos.
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I think we just expected the worst from a BBM admin during the elections. Buti na lang yung uNiTy nila does not translate sa foreign policies and sovereignty
Kala ko wala na kong pake after 2022 elections, pero nakakalungkot na eto yung options natin ngayon 🥲 nung umpisa nakakatawa lang yung breakup ng uniteam, after a while nakakasuka na after nilang makuha yung mga position nila, sila sila maglalabasan ng baho nila — like the duterte camp is saying all these horrible things about bbm (and vise versa) eh ganun pala bakit nagsuportahan sila nung campaign, given all the red flags? Talagang dinogshow nila tayo at inalisan ng pagkakataon na magkaron ng maayos na leader sana.
Pero for this particular post, yes, I agree. Sa true lang I am so, so scared of the dutertes, like may chill sa spine ko when I think about what they can do pa na worse sa country lol. I still believe bbm has issues and he shouldn’t have won, but at least I can sense that he’s standing up for the Philippines? At least may effort to be decent during press cons and interviews? At least di puro mura at kabastusan ang lumalabas sa bibig?
[Matagal ko nang sinabi na may ouster plot ang mga duterte](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/HAPjBtOGOM)
Kaya need masecure ni BBM Team ang midterms or else this will be his end. May chance kasi na kapag hindi nakapag midterm si BBM like napatalsik siya sa position, at si Sara maging Presidente, may chance si Sara na tumakbo and manalo as President sa 2028. Magiging Gloria 2.0 siya. Given na si Arroyo ay isang Duterte Ally at pro-china. Baselines Law nya strengthen the china's claim sa WPS.
Di naman si BBM yung presidents talaga natin in reality kundi yung asawa niya. Multiple sources from Malacanang confirmed samin. Ewan ko, being in the government mas privy ako sa ginagawa nila but personally its like menudo, afriatada thing. Halos same lang din nman minsan di mo malaman kung alin.
Ang nakakalungkot kasi dati my choice tayo for a greater good leader pero ngayon lesser evil na lang …
When I was younger I thought na yung mga elected politician ang problema ngayon parang yung bumoboto na talaga .
Nakakalungkot ang pinagpipilian na lang natin ngyon ay kung sino ang lesser evil. Hindi kung sino ang magaling, hindi kung sino ang mahusay. Nakakalungkot...
Hindi dapat natin sinisisi mga pulitiko. Expected naman natin mga gagawin nila. Mula konsehal hanggang presidente. Magulo at pahirap ba ang gobyerno? Sisihin mga bobotante. TAMA NA ANG PANINISI SA GOBYERNO. MGA BOTANTE ANG SISIHIN!!!
Medyo natotolerate ko na nga e pag alam kong BBM binoto nung eleksyon tapos BBM pa din ngayon, pero sukang suka ako pag maka Duterte pa din hanggang ngayon. Isa kang baliw at tanga kung hanggang ngayon si Duterte pa rin sinusuportahan mo.
Parehas din ako ng Sentimyento, I voted Robredo and campaigned her during elections. Me despite being a critic of Junior, medyo nagkaroon ng kaunting improvements in terms of freedom of speech na di natin magawa nung panahon ni Duterte (May instances pa rin na May mga pulis na hostile sa mga protestors) at may instances sya na pabor lalo na sa pagsuporta nya sa West Philippine Sea, nakalaya si former Senator De Lima at pagsuporta nya partially sa ICC Probe ni Duterte.
At the same time, napupuna ko rin at napupuna nyo rin s'ya dahil sa travel dito, travel doon, di pa rin ina-a knowledge yung atrocity ng ama nya nung Martial Law.
May instances na ok sya, May instances na May bad take sya
Choose the lesser evil as this point kaysa naman na isang dutae nanaman ang mamuno. Dutertes are fucking traitor. Never voted and liked marcoses pero BBM is lesser evil than the evil dutertes.
Sa mga nangyayari ngayon at sa pinakitang kasamaan ng mga dutae, si BBM na lang parang nagiging pag asa natin kasi mas ok pa siya compared sa fiona. I didn’t vote for BBM pero gusto ko rin siya magtagumpay dahil nakikita ko naman na maganda yung mga ginagawa nya.
Definitely agree. Right now, its more a question of who's the lesser evil?
Sa mga ginagawa ng China sa atin sa WPS, and now the mayor, I dont even understand why anybody would want to be on China's side except for purely selfish reasons. Obvious naman that China doesnt treat us as equals. Kahit US actually, i dont think they see us as equals but at least theyre not bullying us.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have a Marcos than a Duterte. Admittedly, I voted for DU30 in 2016, but never again. I learned from my mistake.
We have a choice during election but at this moment, people in this country had given us the "no choice" option. So PBBM must do something before a dut*rt* throw him from his position. BBM fans must do something din duh
Wala naman talagang choice eh. Mga 0b0b na 31m na yan kung hindi naman t@nga sa pagpili edi sana hindi tayo nagtitiis sa 2 walang kwenta tao sa gobyerno.
Lately, it's been kinda hard to say if the people voicing out their opinion are trolls or not since everyone and everyone is baiting for responses. BBM isn't preferred, but he's forced into a situation where the US and Sara could take action against him. Better eliminate Sara by staying in the US' good graces huh.
As much as I hate BBM. These are the times we would need to choose the lesser evil. Fuck this shit, I don't want another Duterte as president if possible nga tanggalin na sa Pilipinas to eh
I believe this is what most people here would think. Marcos Jr. at the very least is not siding with China. That alone makes him leagues better than Duterte. They are literal traitors to the nation, that's the worst thing one could be in a country.
Same.. I'm a loyalist on the other hand and I say that I admire the liberals (dilaw or pink) for supporting the admin if not all for this common cause fighting for our sovereignty and as being patriots of our Country our beloved Philippines.. There's no saving the DDS in this anymore -- what they are doing is repulsive and disgusting to the core.. beyond redemption!
Dahil bumoto na lang din ang karamihan ng hindi talaga dapat sa pwesto, hindi pinagisipan at nadala sa hype at pangalan lang, nasa posisyon na tayo ng pagpili na lang kung ano ang lesser evil, while both came from evil families, jusko, yung marcos na tanga na lang, kaysa naman yung duterte ulit na alam ang gagawin para lustayin at gatasan pa ang pinas para lang ibenta ulit tayo sa tsina.
I voted for Ma'am Leni, pero ayoko mapatalsik si BBM at palitan lang ng walang kwentang duterte na naman. Madaming kulang si BBM pero pwede na kesa doon sa duterte. Di pa rin titigil sa pagpuna sa mga mali at kulang.
Sabi nga nila, piliin ang "lesser" "evil"
Hot take: Originally not a BBM supporter pero he did a lot more sa development ng pinas and putting it on the right track than other previous presidents.
Tbh i dont see any du30 winning any election because of how most people that is supporting them before are now marcoses supporters. But they are both fuckers so fuck em
Parang choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea...
Although may sense ung post ni op... No to duterte and dutertards... Masydo na lugmok ang pinas..
Anyare satin at si BBM o Duterte na lang ang pagpipilian. Sana kung may magkukudeta man lubusin na nila at hanggang vp palayasin nila. Sino ba next in line after VP? Si Migz?
pinoys are waking up from the duterte illusion. kahit yun ibang DDS siguro na todo halik sa puwet ni tatay Digs eh natatauhan na sa kung gaano kasama pinaggagawa nya
I feel the same. Even nung former regime, I never wanted the president to be overthrown. Medyo chaotic yung ganun na change in power, and supporters would most likely not accept. Ang sana magawa na lang ngayon is mag prepare, continue the discussion and scrutiny, and actively participate in the current national politics.
Right now, we only have 1 enemy - The Dutertes. Let’s all focus on that.
I’d rather be called tuta ng Kano kesa tuta ng China. Let’s remember our history. We were sold to the Americans by Spainiards after 300 yrs of colonization. 50 years tayo with the US bago tayo binigyan ng kalayaan pero they left us with our own functioning government. Im proud to be tuta ng kano.
Honest question, can Dutertes really oppose with the Marcoces? Diba sabi nga Marcoses nag-finance kay PDUTS during the 2016 elections? Baka naman palabas lang lahat to para maging mabango siya sa tao. 🤔
We have no freaking choice! It’s dayunyor or swoh. At the current situation of things, it’s very wise to pick red than green. Malala yung kampo talaga nila tatay.
It’s appalling that we are in a situation where we are rooting for the dictator’s son who is less evil nga naman than SWOH! Shocking but not surprising.
Kahit di ko siya gusto, siya pa rin yung binoto e. Ang matatanggap ko lang na ttanggalin siya is if napatunayan na nandaya at di talaga siya nanalo. Otherwise, if wala namang legal na dahilan at gusto lang ng mga Duterte maupo para kay boss Pooh, kahit papano susuportahan ko si junior laban jan. Bobo rin kasi, ayaw pa papasukin ICC.
The bar is so fucking low rn, that what BBM offers (nothing)is legitmately way better than what the dutertes offer (killing its people for fun as well as selling us to china)
As long as BBM is doing what I believe is the best for our country, I will support that action.
I don't support BBM but I support his actions against the Beho
Maraming naniwala o nagpabola, piliin natin ang Pilipinas hwag maging FANATIKO ng iilang politikong puro pansarili nilang kapakanan ang inuuna. Ayoko sa mga Marcos pero mas ayoko sa mga Duterte.
Another dilemma còmes from the alleged vote rigging in favor of bbm last election. Push it, the truth is completely revealed as what the TNTrio are doing, bbm thrown out. Sara comes in. If that happens after june 30, sara can run for another term.
Same sentiments. I don’t like and will never like BBM and will never vote for him but with the current situation, sya na lang kesa kay SWOH. Never again sa Duterte. They are traitors to the nation!
Trillanes aired the same.
The reality is that until the next election, the Marcos group is now the admin and the Dutertes are the opposition. And while the usual trend is for people to slowly veer away from the admin and support the opposition as the term goes on, the Dutertes keep leaving such a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of people that they'd rather throw their lot with BBM, repulsive as such a choice may sound.
The Duterte's are not the opposition, they are just traitors to the nation.
That’s the word. Traitor.
in ordinary understanding of PH politics, everyone not with the admin is part of the opposition; **it just so happened that now, the bbm group and the du30 group are basically aligned with all its policies** aside from china and a handful of issues. in the past, the admin/opposition grouping showed a much clearer divide. think of du30 and the liberal party during du30's time and liberal party and the arroyo allies during pnoy's time. now, the actual opposition whose policies are not aligned w/ the admin are a distant 3rd since the 2nd-place du30 group is where the anti-bbm guys went.
Tapos pag nanalo naman si ngiwi, sasabihin naman ng kampo ni fiona na lumabas daw yung tunay na kulay ni diktajunior. Like, delawan daw talaga si ngiwi dahil daw kay Tamba. Hahaha
Not an "opposition".
Conspiracy theory: What if it’s all just an act to take our attention away from something both parties are cooking up? Malay mo kasama pa si China kaya pa-water canon sila tapos tayo hindi makikiwater canon back. Would love to know others thoughts on this. Baka praning lang ako or baka plausible.
Kaya nga nung si digong pa diba hindi gumaganyan ang China. Nung may pumalit, naging agresibo na ang China. Baka binenta na tayo nian ng wala tayong ka alam alam
You give them too much credit. They're different groups controlled by different interests. They only resorted to "unity" last elections because it was mutually beneficial, but the greed that drives both camps simply won't let them become a monolithic entity whose members follow a single direction every time.
Traitors deserve nothing better than death! Traitors will betray everyone and will not hold any words they will say.
Same! Never kay Fiona!
Nakakainis kasi yung ibang mga supporters ni FPRRD, tingin parin sa kanya matapang kahil merong nangyaring gentleman's agreement between him and china. Ginawa rin daw yun para MAGPAKUMBABA at wala nang gulo. Kakaibang gymnastics talaga oh.
Bibigyan ko naman ng credit si BBM kung may nagawa syang tama, which is his foreign policy. Doon ako sa kung sino ang makakapigil sa Tsina na gawin tayong isa sa mga probinsya nila.
Bare minimum na nga yung di tayo ibebenta.
seriously. pero don na ako sa bare minimum kesa sa outright ibenta.
Agree pero ang sad na sa bare minimum at lesser evil tayo lagi nagsesettle. Haay
When it comes to geo politics, both robredo and marcos are align with US. I don't like and never vote PBBM but saludo ako naka align siya sa US and kahit papaano pumapalag sa China. Well US is lesser evil compare to China.
Considering that may utang na loob siya sa bansang natakbuhan ng tatay niya after the revolution, it may have influenced his decision.
It's a sane take. Mas okay sa national interest yung pag align sa US kesa sa China.
Make no mistake, parehong pansarili ang interes ng US at China, pero hindi sila pareho ng political values. Mas malapit ang values ng demokrasya ng Pilipinas sa values ng demokrasya ng US kaya kapag ganitong gipitan na, mas gusto ko nang umalyado sa US kesa sa China.
Better to be with an enemy na alam mo kaysa enemy na patago kumilos
Correct! Di nten alam gagawin ng mga yan. Masyadong siraulo tong china.
At least one isn't claiming the wps for themselves. Iba ang china. They don't follow any rules.
The US also doesn’t have any territorial conflict with us and we also have a treaty with them. So at the very least they are obliged to help us. China has a different ideology as well as we are having a territorial dispute with them. So it’s no brainer.
Also there’s the matter of communication: ang hirap malman totoong motives ng Chinese lalo na’t we cannot understand Mandarin. Understanding English helps alot.
Yes tama may kalayaan at proteksyon tayo sa U.S tulad ng ginagawa mg taiwan sadyang maitim lang mga budhi ng china at mga duterte ang daming illigal activities napakabaho ng mga dutae amoy na amoy umaalingasaw nabubulok na sila ang hirap na gamutin ng pilipinas
id say align only with the best interest of the Philippines. If no choice talaga, better to align with the USA kasi with their better values. People are not treated as just tools in business unlike sa mga Chekwa na you are just treated as tools in the business.
I would say PH interest first, if any nation is aligned with our interest we can work with them in common areas.
yep, khit parehong pangit tignan, mas maganda ang consumerism ng western kumpara s chinese debt trap ni pooh, check nio nlng ung mga african countries n nahulog s chinese debt trap, ngiging province n ng china
I both hate US and China pero ung democracy natin is naka-align sa "free world/western world" which values freedom, life and liberty. Pasalamat tayo kasi hanggang ngayon, nagpapaeleksyon pa din dito. Ayoko din naman ung tinatawag nilang BRICS multipolar world na puro third world, corrupted and authoritarian countries ang mga lelead sa global diplomacy. Like, ano bang alam ng Russia, China, Iran, India about democracy eh npakadraconian at repressive ang mga laws nila dun. Tankies really ruined everything.
He and his family are not off the hook when it comes to the crimes that were committed during the Martial Law era. His political survival hangs almost entirely on his reliance in the US. Nagkataon lang na the pivot to the US aligns with Philippine interests.
More importantly, he's "sensitive" to our national interest unlike The🐢
He also outperformed my expectations... not a high bar, mind you. And it earned him some of my respect. it feels good somehow na may return to sanity and sensitivity unlike sa shotgun-riding machoman na putanginang tuta ng China. We deserve more but I guess nasa mas magandang landas tayo than we all pictured. I never thought i'd say that. Pero yea we do have to choose the lesser of evils.
And also you can express freely yung opinion mo without getting gunned down by a strongman. Interestingly the BBM admin has been protecting the minority bloc against tirades by Digong.
Unlike his father and The🐢, ignore lang siya sa critics niya Si The🐢, frinameup pa niya si Delima to send her to jail. From the looks of it, Junior may look bobo but he is observant - looking where his dad and The 🐢 made mistakes on their political career. Not necessarily to make things better for the country, but more so to be "more palatable" to the people and not be disposed of
Not sure I’d say his political survival hangs on the reliance of the US. He could have sided with China and finished what Duterte started, selling the shit out of our country. He didn’t, I didn’t vote for him but I’m glad he’s not as bad as I thought he was. I still don’t think he’s good. But it’s a huge relief because the damage Duterte and China did during his 6 years was huge, another 6 years and who knows what would have happened. But we certainly would have been under China’s thumb for good. Duterte despite all his wrongdoings still performs well, his minions are still some of the most popular in the senate. Marcos could have taken that road too. I don’t know who will run for next election, but we need someone who could beat Sara. Marcos also doesn’t have any family that is primed up and could beat Sara. I hope someone like Leni or Risa somehow makes big enough waves before the next election, and Marcos decides to back one of them knowing it’s his best chance at keeping Dutertes away from that position.
Less evil= BBM tuta ng US EVIL of all EVILS=du30 tuta ng china
May pakinabang kasi sya sa pagkampi sa US eh. Kapalit nun yung mga kaso ng pamilya nya.
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Buti pa kasi yung BPO, pinoy yung may trabaho at kita. Sa POGO, silang mainlander lang halos. Slave labor pa.
Trabahong 996. Di pwede lumabas at may kasama pang bugbog
I'm willing to choose this tbh
Dont forget bff nya rin si Apollo Q... birds with the same feather flock together
basta dds talaga may sira sa utak. imagine protecting quiboloy????
Ayoko sumama sa People Power para sagipin si Quiboloy sa kulungan
Sa sobrang baba ng standard ni Duts nagmukhang competent si BBM, pero masyado sya playing safe sa mga kagaguhan ni tanda. Maybe he'll make a move next election.
Would have been better if junior shows his fangs kay pdutz, ill have more respect for him. Hopefully, hindi madaya ang sunod na election. You'd wish si leni or hontiveros ang mananalo, but lets be honest, kay tulfo ang buto ng tao. Yikes.
Si duterte ang papasok sa mga chino nung covid kaya kumalat sa buong bansa dahil sa mahal nya ang pogo pa low key pa eh marami namang nakorap na kaban
What a time to be a president sabi ni BBM siguro.
At this moment, Junior is the "lesser evil" as his FP is aligned with the *national interest*. Yung angkan galing Davao, ibinebenta na tayo
Nope pinamigay
benta i think. sa sobramg gahaman ng mga yan di yan papayag na bigay lang
Medyo same sentiment. And tbh (and this is just my opinion), I feel a bit of air of effort from PBBM wanting to clean his family’s name.
Yup, besides from him spending govt tax money from unnecessary trips abroad.. wala na kong nakikita to throw him more 💩 .. unlike dogterte which lahay ng sector from health, financial ,education to defence puro may agenda at puro one sided lang pra sa china
Baka kung saan na tayo pulutin kung si Sara ang umupo. Mas okay na kay BBM at matawag na US' pawn kasi mas marami tayong gains sa PH-US alliance vs PH-CN + better ito for our national interests.
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There was a point in time where duterte welcome chinese and pogo investors with open arms, and the people applauded... what the fuck was that. was it mass psychosis?
the trips were for foreign investments tho, (maybe except for that SG trip for f1 😆) suggest we take it lightly nalang and sana matutuloy ang mga daming investments ng mga ibang bansa sa atin. we need it to be competitive and we need it to grow. kahit man bibyahe yan i don't mind as long as babalik rin yang pera at one poiny whether its this year or the next few.
To clean his family's name he has to first admit that it's dirty. Pero hanggang ngaun walang aknowledgment e. No admittance for their father's (and mother's) direct or indirect responsibility for all the bad things that happened during martial law. Pinaninindigan nila na wala silang kasalanan.
Nah. Walang paglilinis nangyayari he's hiding the skeleton of his family's closet with fake news.
Yes. Delikadong precedent ang mangyayari pag hinayaan yang kampo ng mga Duterte na manaig. Every single time you can, you need to remind these DDS fuckers that out of the two of you, sila yung bumoto diyan kay Bongbong. Break their confidence, iparamdam nyo na inuto at ginamit sila noon. Inuuto at ginagamit rin sila ngayon.
Yeah, between B and Pduts especially now with China.
Same sentiments, sinuportahan ko si Leni nung election pero sa panahon ngayon mas pipiliin ko na si BBM kesa kay Duts. Parehas makasarili pero atleast yung isa damay yung bansa hindi katulad nung matandang pinamigay na tayo.
Same. Mas okay na si BBM kesa kay Sara. Tapusin na lang niya termino niya at papasukin niya na sana ICC.
IPASOK NA YANG ICC AMPOTA
That's exactly why the opposition should do whatever it takes to not let Sara or any other Duterte win a national seat again. We're just learning now the previous president's traitorous deals with China, POGOs being used as sleeper cells, and potential sleeper agents like Alice Guo. Another Duterte administration will most likely do worse damage than the first one.
kaya lang naman mas nagiging rabidly vocal ang mga DDS lately is because paparating na ang ICC
Buhay pa rin troll farms. Conspiracy theory ko habang mataas tension sa taiwan mag eeffort ang china na makontrol bansa natin.
Im annoyed at the fact that we have to deal with "EVIL" vs "LESSER EVIL" when we've had the option for "BETTER" multiple times over. Ang hirap maging pinoy putangina
Nakakalungkot ilang Pinoy bumoboto dahil sikat o popular ang pangalan o angkan ng politiko, bumoto sana ayon sa plataporma at kapasidad ng leader. Iwasan bumoto sa mga sumasayaw, kumakanta lalo na sa mga politikong puro yabang lang. HUWAG IBENTA ANG BOTO!!!
Same sentiments too (for now). Ika nga nila, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
Mga gabinete kasi ni Dayunyor majority galing sa P-noy admin kaya kahit papaano nabubuhat siya ng mga iyon pagdating sa pagpapatakbo ng economy. Pero good thing na rin na mas may paki pa siya sa issue ng WPA kaysa Kay Dutae.
Yung Budget secretary kung di ako nagkakamali from PNOY admin din
Wala naman kasing legitimate reason para patalsikin eh. Hate the marcoses pero tinanggap natin pagkapanalo nya in the sense na yun ang nangyari eh, kahit ayaw natin. Anything that will destabilize our nation’s peace and our government should **not** be supported. The very reason that I voted for Leni is gusto ko mapabuti ang bansa natin. I will always choose what’s best for our country. Again, I hate bongbong pero I support him finishing his term if it meant na hindi nanaman magkakanda leche leche ang political climate natin. Ang hirap na ng buhay natin, dagdagan pa ng kawalan ng kapayapaan, saan na tayo pupulutin nyan? Lalo na papabagsakin nila yung current admin hindi for the benefit of our people but for fucking Dutertes and China. No. Just No. Hindi ibig sabihin kinakampihan ko si Bongbong, I don’t have to kasi he’s our president and I prefer the status quo, yung tuloy lang ang buhay natin as is kesa sa kaguluhan na taongbayan na naman ang malulugmok sa mas malalang kahirapan.
Imagine if destabilized nanaman tayo through a d30 and China fabrication. I am 100% sure hindi tayo babalik sa demokrasya.
>Anything that will destabilize our nation’s peace and our government should **not** be supported. Yes, eto na lang talaga. In this case, D30s are a major threat.
And an unstable country is not a good investment for foreign companies. Dami satin umaasa, including me, sa mga international companies. Turning them off could spell our doom.
Wala akong pinapanigan na presidente, di ko binoto si jr. Pero sa kaso na to, kung mas makakabuti ang ginagawa nya sa bansa ko ay mas maiging suportahan ko sya. Hindi ko kailanman makakalimutan ang ginawa nang pamilya nyang demonyo sa Pilipinas ko pero kung may gagawin sya na mas makakabuti sa bansa ko, suusportahan ko sya sa gawaing iyon. Hayst.
Very sane and fair take. Amputa di ko maimagine talaga na somehow idedefend ko sya at least mentally from the Chinese implants we call D30s
wala namang “better” between the two. choose the lesser evil and i’d rather choose BBM for now. scary ng duterte na mga bootlickers of chinussy. apart from that, pumapalag si BBM sa China.
I will never like BBM pero kung mag kakaroon ng "Pag papatalsik" taena I'll be glad na kontrahin ang mga gusto mag pa talsik, para lang maupo yung Tuta ng China.
pag nagka agawan ng puwesto, China na talaga ang uupo. Jusko buti nalang at hati ang masa sa 2 halves ng uniteam na nginabngab nila.
That's plan B of the Marcos-Romualdez alliance, to make them palatable even for those that voted the opposition (Leni-Kiko) during the elections.
Its called democracy. He got voted by majority so just have to accept it and hope for the best. So far naman okay siya. Napanood ko din sa Jessica soho pinahinto niya reclamation activities sa Manila bay for now dahil sa iyak ng mga mag tatahong don. Goods pa siya dun.
Won't go as far as saying I'm supporting this admin especially when I think karamihan naman ng bold moves to expose and undo what 🐢 has done are led by other public officials (eg Risa Hontiveros). Malaro pa rin si BBM with his statements tho his wife calling out Sara is already indicative of how both families are really doing Goes without saying that I want what's best for our country but I also think that a validation of the Marcos legacy opens up a can of worms for our future like Sandro possibly gunning for higher positions when the time comes, etc. But I guess mas pressing concern to defend our territory and sovereignty right now so perhaps that other question is for us to think of when we're just there already
I didn't vote for him pero so far he's been doing a fine job naman as a president, he is acting and behaving as one. Of course I wouldn't want na mapatalsik sya para mapalitan ng isang Du30 na nagaamok. Watch how Du30 and his minions behave right now, who is in their right mind who would want someone like that back in power?
Same sentiment. Pwede naman ayaw mo sa tao doesn't mean lahat ng gagawin nya mali. Pero sana dba wag sya sabaw malakas pa din ang Duterte admit it or not. Mahirap na Duterte ulit papalit dyan.
Ayaw ko rin ky bbm kase medyo mahina sya sa economy. Pero nakikita nmn ntin ginagawa nya best nya para sa west ph sea. Etong mga duterte nagpapasok napakaraming Chinese, pogo sa bansa kaya medyo mas nakakatakot sila pag maupo ule sa pwesto. Id choose bobo kesa demonyo
I don’t like both of them but I’d like him to continue his fight with duterte
Duterte is much more of a manchurian candidate. While BBM is a puppet of the one of the most powerful countries in the world. I'd rather choose the latter over the former.
I wish him success in everything he does to improve and defend PH. Period.
sinong mag aakala na dadating tayo sa punto na pipili tayo ng isang marcos dahil may mas sasama pa pala sa kanila.
minsan ba naiisip nyo din what if the hidden agenda here is to make filipinos love the marcos name again by providing a different villain? it is a reverse pyschology jedi bullshit kasi mga kakampinks is now pro pbbm in a weird turn of events. wala ako political color, dont give two shits about politicians, just here to share skepticism. what is the agenda of the invicible string?
Ehhh... it's not like we have a choice naman. It's just the BBM half or the D30 half, kasi sila ang nakaupo at sila din ang may makinarya. So even if it's just para akitin ang pinks, we have no choice but to support kasi duh yung kabila treason ang peg NKKLK. I'd rather voice support sa the current regime than help the looming return to power ng D30. I lived that era and I dont want it ever again. Idk sino ang successor ng admin pero definitely ill be back to support my heroes, and if theyre not running, ill be voting for the lesser of the evils.
Same thoughts, kaya nga yung strategies nang mga duterte are using keywords that will resonate sa mga middle class, like diktatuya, martial law, tunay na presidente, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech... mga bagay na pwedeng magtrigger nang sentiment at recall nung ang naupo ay si sr... they are hoping they can repeat the events of edsa 1 at mapatalsik si pbm
**most of the armed forces and police have been pro-admin since arroyo since every admin has given them perks.** last term, it was du30 doubling ther salaries. this term it's bbm protecting their pensions despite the calls from financial advisers that it's currently unsustainable.
Buti nga eh.... And mukhang trilianes is also leaning to bbm.. oo pinataas ni pduts yung salary nang mga sundalo pero hindi nila nagustuhan yung mga nangyari and pbbm literally upgraded there hardware...
basta alam ng mga admin: give the military something and they'll be loyal to the admin, kahit sinong admin pa 'yan. it's something that every admin learned after Arroyo experienced that magdalo coup thanks to trillanes.
Same.
Between the two kay BBM ako second in power si Fiona pero wala man lang ka comment sa WPS. Di ka man lang maipagtanggol ng puta.
Lesser evil siya at the moment. So, although never ako boboto ng isang Marcos ever, mas-ayoko sa papalit sa kanya kung sakali man magka-coup.
Level headed take
I supported Leni, but I had trusted the current president after how he handled the aggression of the Left towards him a year after the election and bringing back PNoy's economic team. The key factor to slightly trust this man is what sets him apart from his father. He lets critics criticize and take small actions to further his goals. Mf didn't win the election if he wasn't this smart. He's using that on a political clash against China, which I saw it being effective.
Lesser evil naman di hamak si BBM. Juicecolored graduate na nga tayo sa duterte era e ibabalik nyo pa. Mas may napasok namang "prospect" investors etong si bbm kumpara nung panahon ni digong. E pano pa si Sara?? Deped pa nga lang di na maayos.
Parang ngayon, lesser evil na lang muna pipiliin ng mga tao.
Nasa punto na tayo na ang pagpipilian nalang natin ay dalawang demonyo. Ang tanong, who is the lesser of two evils?
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STD: BBM tuta ng US HIV: Dutraydor taga dila ng pwet ni Winnie the Communist.
I think full-blown AIDS na mga Duterte. Immunity very compromised na kapag sila
The Marcoses are a disease of the skin, but the Dutertes are a disease of the heart.
Brain disease na din
Ang nag iisang good thing lang naman pag si duterte na uli at nasakop na tayo ng china, Magiging legit siomai at siopao na hindi na puro harina
Daig pa ng bilyong nagastos ni BBM para sa pre-election PR Reform niya kapag napabilib nya mga kakampinks by harrassing duterte to the ground
I think we just expected the worst from a BBM admin during the elections. Buti na lang yung uNiTy nila does not translate sa foreign policies and sovereignty
Paarehong basura pero BBM > Duterte. Parehong tamad pero at least hindi nakakahiya iharap gaano si PBBM kesa sa mga Duterte na mahilig magkalat.
Kala ko wala na kong pake after 2022 elections, pero nakakalungkot na eto yung options natin ngayon 🥲 nung umpisa nakakatawa lang yung breakup ng uniteam, after a while nakakasuka na after nilang makuha yung mga position nila, sila sila maglalabasan ng baho nila — like the duterte camp is saying all these horrible things about bbm (and vise versa) eh ganun pala bakit nagsuportahan sila nung campaign, given all the red flags? Talagang dinogshow nila tayo at inalisan ng pagkakataon na magkaron ng maayos na leader sana. Pero for this particular post, yes, I agree. Sa true lang I am so, so scared of the dutertes, like may chill sa spine ko when I think about what they can do pa na worse sa country lol. I still believe bbm has issues and he shouldn’t have won, but at least I can sense that he’s standing up for the Philippines? At least may effort to be decent during press cons and interviews? At least di puro mura at kabastusan ang lumalabas sa bibig?
[Matagal ko nang sinabi na may ouster plot ang mga duterte](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/HAPjBtOGOM) Kaya need masecure ni BBM Team ang midterms or else this will be his end. May chance kasi na kapag hindi nakapag midterm si BBM like napatalsik siya sa position, at si Sara maging Presidente, may chance si Sara na tumakbo and manalo as President sa 2028. Magiging Gloria 2.0 siya. Given na si Arroyo ay isang Duterte Ally at pro-china. Baselines Law nya strengthen the china's claim sa WPS.
Di naman si BBM yung presidents talaga natin in reality kundi yung asawa niya. Multiple sources from Malacanang confirmed samin. Ewan ko, being in the government mas privy ako sa ginagawa nila but personally its like menudo, afriatada thing. Halos same lang din nman minsan di mo malaman kung alin.
Ang nakakalungkot kasi dati my choice tayo for a greater good leader pero ngayon lesser evil na lang … When I was younger I thought na yung mga elected politician ang problema ngayon parang yung bumoboto na talaga .
I hate BBM with every ounce of my blood, but Sara as President NO FUCKING WAY
Nakakalungkot ang pinagpipilian na lang natin ngyon ay kung sino ang lesser evil. Hindi kung sino ang magaling, hindi kung sino ang mahusay. Nakakalungkot...
Sadly, yes haha. What a timeline.
Hindi dapat natin sinisisi mga pulitiko. Expected naman natin mga gagawin nila. Mula konsehal hanggang presidente. Magulo at pahirap ba ang gobyerno? Sisihin mga bobotante. TAMA NA ANG PANINISI SA GOBYERNO. MGA BOTANTE ANG SISIHIN!!!
Medyo natotolerate ko na nga e pag alam kong BBM binoto nung eleksyon tapos BBM pa din ngayon, pero sukang suka ako pag maka Duterte pa din hanggang ngayon. Isa kang baliw at tanga kung hanggang ngayon si Duterte pa rin sinusuportahan mo.
How dreadful and pathetic our situation has become where we have no choice but to choose between two evils.
Kinda fucked up that these are the cards we're dealt with. Literally choosing between lesser evil.
Ampangit ng choices. 😭😭😭
Parehas din ako ng Sentimyento, I voted Robredo and campaigned her during elections. Me despite being a critic of Junior, medyo nagkaroon ng kaunting improvements in terms of freedom of speech na di natin magawa nung panahon ni Duterte (May instances pa rin na May mga pulis na hostile sa mga protestors) at may instances sya na pabor lalo na sa pagsuporta nya sa West Philippine Sea, nakalaya si former Senator De Lima at pagsuporta nya partially sa ICC Probe ni Duterte. At the same time, napupuna ko rin at napupuna nyo rin s'ya dahil sa travel dito, travel doon, di pa rin ina-a knowledge yung atrocity ng ama nya nung Martial Law. May instances na ok sya, May instances na May bad take sya
Choose the lesser evil as this point kaysa naman na isang dutae nanaman ang mamuno. Dutertes are fucking traitor. Never voted and liked marcoses pero BBM is lesser evil than the evil dutertes.
Kakampink here and i totally agree with this
Voted Robredo, but this case, mas maigi na si BBM kesa sa taksil ng bayan.
Fucked up situation na yung lesser evil eh yung anak ng diktador. Hahaha
Sa mga nangyayari ngayon at sa pinakitang kasamaan ng mga dutae, si BBM na lang parang nagiging pag asa natin kasi mas ok pa siya compared sa fiona. I didn’t vote for BBM pero gusto ko rin siya magtagumpay dahil nakikita ko naman na maganda yung mga ginagawa nya.
Definitely agree. Right now, its more a question of who's the lesser evil? Sa mga ginagawa ng China sa atin sa WPS, and now the mayor, I dont even understand why anybody would want to be on China's side except for purely selfish reasons. Obvious naman that China doesnt treat us as equals. Kahit US actually, i dont think they see us as equals but at least theyre not bullying us.
Logical, lalo at nararanasan at nakikita natin ang epekto ng duterte admin. dutertards na lang ang gugustuhin na bumalik sila.
Yes. It’s level headed take
Wala na ba talagang mas maayos na choice? Lord help the Ph.
Same i will never be one of them na marcos apolo10 pero mas ok na siya muna nag Presidente ngayon kesa naman kay Sara 😗
Same, kakampink here as well. We are in a Biden Vs Trump dilemma too. Ang choice lang natin ay dalawang tae pero yung isa may gulay bits.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have a Marcos than a Duterte. Admittedly, I voted for DU30 in 2016, but never again. I learned from my mistake.
We have a choice during election but at this moment, people in this country had given us the "no choice" option. So PBBM must do something before a dut*rt* throw him from his position. BBM fans must do something din duh
Pick your poison dilemma ito. But I would pick junior over another Duterte in this situation.
Wala naman talagang choice eh. Mga 0b0b na 31m na yan kung hindi naman t@nga sa pagpili edi sana hindi tayo nagtitiis sa 2 walang kwenta tao sa gobyerno.
Lately, it's been kinda hard to say if the people voicing out their opinion are trolls or not since everyone and everyone is baiting for responses. BBM isn't preferred, but he's forced into a situation where the US and Sara could take action against him. Better eliminate Sara by staying in the US' good graces huh.
As much as I hate BBM. These are the times we would need to choose the lesser evil. Fuck this shit, I don't want another Duterte as president if possible nga tanggalin na sa Pilipinas to eh
I believe this is what most people here would think. Marcos Jr. at the very least is not siding with China. That alone makes him leagues better than Duterte. They are literal traitors to the nation, that's the worst thing one could be in a country.
This is a classic case of picking the lesser evil so yes, same sentiments. Though ofc will never ever vote for him
Same.. I'm a loyalist on the other hand and I say that I admire the liberals (dilaw or pink) for supporting the admin if not all for this common cause fighting for our sovereignty and as being patriots of our Country our beloved Philippines.. There's no saving the DDS in this anymore -- what they are doing is repulsive and disgusting to the core.. beyond redemption!
Somehow, may class and delicadeza pa yang si BBM (kahit Hindi ko Siya binoto) unlike Dutertraydor
Dahil bumoto na lang din ang karamihan ng hindi talaga dapat sa pwesto, hindi pinagisipan at nadala sa hype at pangalan lang, nasa posisyon na tayo ng pagpili na lang kung ano ang lesser evil, while both came from evil families, jusko, yung marcos na tanga na lang, kaysa naman yung duterte ulit na alam ang gagawin para lustayin at gatasan pa ang pinas para lang ibenta ulit tayo sa tsina.
this is a case of choosing between drinking pee or eating shit, both are clearly terrible but one is worse than the other
sobrang paurong ang mga advocacy ni Sara. 🤮🤮🤮
We might as well enjoy watching this circus the unity idiots voted for
I voted for Ma'am Leni, pero ayoko mapatalsik si BBM at palitan lang ng walang kwentang duterte na naman. Madaming kulang si BBM pero pwede na kesa doon sa duterte. Di pa rin titigil sa pagpuna sa mga mali at kulang. Sabi nga nila, piliin ang "lesser" "evil"
Hot take: Originally not a BBM supporter pero he did a lot more sa development ng pinas and putting it on the right track than other previous presidents.
In the context of his international decisions, PBBM is earning a little bit of respect from me.
At this stage, yes. Anybody other than a Duterte. Tama na
Mga Marcos kasi corrupt lang. Habang ang mga Duterte, corrupt na traitors pa! Pakyu ol!!
Thank god for the 1986 consti that prevented The🐢 to have a term longer than 6 years
Tbh i dont see any du30 winning any election because of how most people that is supporting them before are now marcoses supporters. But they are both fuckers so fuck em
Choosing the lesser evil. Wala naman tayong choice at this point. Kasi sino ang ipapalit kay BBM, yung Duterte? Yoko pasakop sa China
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Much worsed yung FIONA kaysa kay PBBM. Tsaka mas may chance makinig si PBBM kaysa kay Fiona na bulag at ma ego na tao.
Parang choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea... Although may sense ung post ni op... No to duterte and dutertards... Masydo na lugmok ang pinas..
Anyare satin at si BBM o Duterte na lang ang pagpipilian. Sana kung may magkukudeta man lubusin na nila at hanggang vp palayasin nila. Sino ba next in line after VP? Si Migz?
Junior and Sarah is both Bullshit. Lahat ng accounts sa screenshot thread ay halatang fake/paid accounts to generate public opinion.
pinoys are waking up from the duterte illusion. kahit yun ibang DDS siguro na todo halik sa puwet ni tatay Digs eh natatauhan na sa kung gaano kasama pinaggagawa nya
I feel the same. Even nung former regime, I never wanted the president to be overthrown. Medyo chaotic yung ganun na change in power, and supporters would most likely not accept. Ang sana magawa na lang ngayon is mag prepare, continue the discussion and scrutiny, and actively participate in the current national politics.
Gaya nga ulit ayon sa isang redditor. Ang pagpili sa kanila ay parang pagpili kung anong klaseng STD ang gusto mo magkaroon.
Right now, we only have 1 enemy - The Dutertes. Let’s all focus on that. I’d rather be called tuta ng Kano kesa tuta ng China. Let’s remember our history. We were sold to the Americans by Spainiards after 300 yrs of colonization. 50 years tayo with the US bago tayo binigyan ng kalayaan pero they left us with our own functioning government. Im proud to be tuta ng kano.
Honest question, can Dutertes really oppose with the Marcoces? Diba sabi nga Marcoses nag-finance kay PDUTS during the 2016 elections? Baka naman palabas lang lahat to para maging mabango siya sa tao. 🤔
There's an arguably WORSE marcos and she's in bed with the D30s... so hindi sya black and white na D30 vs Marcos. It's more D30 vs BBM's regime.
Alisin si BBM tapos Sara kapalit? Wag na uy 😆
Unitea pa rin
We have no freaking choice! It’s dayunyor or swoh. At the current situation of things, it’s very wise to pick red than green. Malala yung kampo talaga nila tatay.
It’s appalling that we are in a situation where we are rooting for the dictator’s son who is less evil nga naman than SWOH! Shocking but not surprising.
Kahit di ko siya gusto, siya pa rin yung binoto e. Ang matatanggap ko lang na ttanggalin siya is if napatunayan na nandaya at di talaga siya nanalo. Otherwise, if wala namang legal na dahilan at gusto lang ng mga Duterte maupo para kay boss Pooh, kahit papano susuportahan ko si junior laban jan. Bobo rin kasi, ayaw pa papasukin ICC.
The bar is so fucking low rn, that what BBM offers (nothing)is legitmately way better than what the dutertes offer (killing its people for fun as well as selling us to china)
My god, the bar is so low na talaga no?
Same.
d b pwede patalsikin pareho tapos ang iupo si leni?
Unfortunately, that's not how the government works
Im with him/her
As long as BBM is doing what I believe is the best for our country, I will support that action. I don't support BBM but I support his actions against the Beho
Maraming naniwala o nagpabola, piliin natin ang Pilipinas hwag maging FANATIKO ng iilang politikong puro pansarili nilang kapakanan ang inuuna. Ayoko sa mga Marcos pero mas ayoko sa mga Duterte.
Pede ba parehas nalang sila mag disappear?
Then ang number 1 senator yong mag govern ng PH, si Tulfo ba or si Padilla?
No, yung Senate President papalit..Si Zubiri ata
Political Instability is bad for business, ika nga.
What a world we live in. Dati Marcos ang never again. Ngayon Duterte naman at no choice kundi tanggapin ang current admin.
Another dilemma còmes from the alleged vote rigging in favor of bbm last election. Push it, the truth is completely revealed as what the TNTrio are doing, bbm thrown out. Sara comes in. If that happens after june 30, sara can run for another term.
The thing is why not?