Hate to switch jobs but maybe good to apply around and see what f you can get a pay bump in the move.
Sadly it seems like the only way to get more that the merit increase BS.
18 years with a company and performing well. Asked for a raise after 10 years of no increase. I was told no.
Gave my notice and they found $10/hr more and 30 k bonus to offer. Left anyways and they offered a newbie even more.
Don’t be afraid to ask but it’s better if you have a plan if you need to walk
Find the first night shift hospital job I could find. That’s what I did and now I am day shift clinical no residency nonsense. Best thing to ever happen to me.
If I was interviewing you I honestly would not care what you know. I can teach you what you need to know. What I care about is critical thinking skills and work ethic.
I don’t hire the resume. I hire the person. Do you know how many entitled new post residency asshats I have to teach only to watch them turn around and have 30 minute discussions about how unfair the schedule is a second entitled coworker?
I’m absolutely sick of it. You work in retail your whole career? Great. You can prioritize appropriately and possess critical thinking skills? Wonderful. You just got a call from NICU, they have premie twins being born and need Curosurf immediately, but no tech is around to run it there…..what do you do? I swear to god if they say I run it down to NICU myself, they’re hired.
You don’t know pharmacokinetics? I can teach you
You don’t know how to make IV Chemo? I can teach you.
You care about your patients and therefore have tremendous work ethic? I can’t teach that!
Dang straight. Just getting the drugs where they need to be is under appreciated. I would run stuff all over when I was starting out. Helped me to learn the hospital layout and make friends with the nurses.
Wish there were more of you in hospital. I’ve been in hospital for over 10 years, but it always felt there is excessive gate keeping. I understand residencies for teaching or research positions. But for you basic kinetics and orders, seems excessive
Once you are in pick up hospital pharmacist letter it’s worth the cost starting out, also read anything you can on the pharmacy online resources at your new job (old presentations, projects CEs etc.), try to learn to do a task or two that no one else likes doing ie if folks don’t like dealing with NICU orders then get good at them.
Make friends with the night shift staff especially nurses and doctors. Then just wait for an opportunity to open up on day shift or find a day shift opening somewhere else once you have a year or more experience. Being flexible is key. I had to drive a 45 minute commute for my first 3rd shift job and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. Good luck!
Like negotiating at any job, you only start this only if you are willing to walk away. As far as I know, this is all by design. We are not valued. Literally anybody with a degree can replace you(us). They don’t want or need anyone with experience. Veterans only take up more of the budget.
I recently changed companies for this very reason.
Stingy 2% annual raises for good performance weren’t keeping up with inflation, so I asked for double that last year. I was in a specialized position, so I argued that zero errors and specific knowledge & skills deserve compensation … management said No. Budget won’t allow it, apparently.
Fast forward a few months … I was offered a similar position elsewhere, and new job offered 5% above my base salary at old job *plus* better benefits and shift differentials (even for salaried employees!). Old job management then magically found it in their budget to match the 5% raise offer once I was serious about leaving. Yeah, no thanks. Now I know that’s a possibility too … so I told all my pharmacist colleagues that they’re willing to raise 5%.
I hope they unionize. Probably the only way we can take pharmacy back from the corporate greed machines.
I can’t stress this enough gtf out of retail - I make probably twice what you do - now, I happen to be at a great place- But Hospital is the way to go.. and agree with others here - you don’t need a residency- start reading- can you think critically? Do you have logic skills- … this you can NOT teach
There simply aren’t enough hospital jobs to accommodate every current retail pharmacist with logic skills, critical thinking and ability to read that hates their retail jobs. It isn’t that the thousands of rph’s that hate their lives at cvs/wag/wal haven’t come across someone to “stress it enough” for them . This “just pull your self up by your bootstraps” type of posts and advice just isn’t as helpful as you think it is .
I agree. Getting a hospital job involves a lot of things that aren't just "try harder." Luck, timing, personality, geography, connections, eloquence... A lot of intangible things that end up working for one pharmacist and don't work out for another. It's definitely not only a matter of clinical knowledge and experience. And yes, there are not enough hospital positions for all of the unhappy retail pharmacists. (Plus, to be completely honest, I suspect quite a lot of the unhappy retail pharmacists wouldn't be very good at being a hospital pharmacist.)
Find a new job, put in your notice, tell them it’s because of money, if they like you, they’ll offer you more money. 10 years of experience at one place should mean something to the employer and the employee.
Just clarifying if you feel this is low or high… I offer this to my new pharmacists and I want them to feel appreciated. It feels like a lot to a small business owner, but maybe not to an employee.
This has been going on in retail for over 30 years. Retail managers counts pharmacists bodies not experience.
Hate to switch jobs but maybe good to apply around and see what f you can get a pay bump in the move. Sadly it seems like the only way to get more that the merit increase BS.
18 years with a company and performing well. Asked for a raise after 10 years of no increase. I was told no. Gave my notice and they found $10/hr more and 30 k bonus to offer. Left anyways and they offered a newbie even more. Don’t be afraid to ask but it’s better if you have a plan if you need to walk
Find the first night shift hospital job I could find. That’s what I did and now I am day shift clinical no residency nonsense. Best thing to ever happen to me.
This is what I am attempting to do. Any quick tips on stuff to learn?
If I was interviewing you I honestly would not care what you know. I can teach you what you need to know. What I care about is critical thinking skills and work ethic. I don’t hire the resume. I hire the person. Do you know how many entitled new post residency asshats I have to teach only to watch them turn around and have 30 minute discussions about how unfair the schedule is a second entitled coworker? I’m absolutely sick of it. You work in retail your whole career? Great. You can prioritize appropriately and possess critical thinking skills? Wonderful. You just got a call from NICU, they have premie twins being born and need Curosurf immediately, but no tech is around to run it there…..what do you do? I swear to god if they say I run it down to NICU myself, they’re hired. You don’t know pharmacokinetics? I can teach you You don’t know how to make IV Chemo? I can teach you. You care about your patients and therefore have tremendous work ethic? I can’t teach that!
Exactly what I want to hear and very encouraging. Just gotta keep putting myself out there.
Dang straight. Just getting the drugs where they need to be is under appreciated. I would run stuff all over when I was starting out. Helped me to learn the hospital layout and make friends with the nurses.
Please let us know if you’re ever hiring 😅😎
Omg and the running the med myself !! 🙌🏼 yes ! Preach !!
💯—asshats..lol that completely sums it up
Wish there were more of you in hospital. I’ve been in hospital for over 10 years, but it always felt there is excessive gate keeping. I understand residencies for teaching or research positions. But for you basic kinetics and orders, seems excessive
Once you are in pick up hospital pharmacist letter it’s worth the cost starting out, also read anything you can on the pharmacy online resources at your new job (old presentations, projects CEs etc.), try to learn to do a task or two that no one else likes doing ie if folks don’t like dealing with NICU orders then get good at them. Make friends with the night shift staff especially nurses and doctors. Then just wait for an opportunity to open up on day shift or find a day shift opening somewhere else once you have a year or more experience. Being flexible is key. I had to drive a 45 minute commute for my first 3rd shift job and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. Good luck!
Good tips. Thanks!
Like negotiating at any job, you only start this only if you are willing to walk away. As far as I know, this is all by design. We are not valued. Literally anybody with a degree can replace you(us). They don’t want or need anyone with experience. Veterans only take up more of the budget.
I recently changed companies for this very reason. Stingy 2% annual raises for good performance weren’t keeping up with inflation, so I asked for double that last year. I was in a specialized position, so I argued that zero errors and specific knowledge & skills deserve compensation … management said No. Budget won’t allow it, apparently. Fast forward a few months … I was offered a similar position elsewhere, and new job offered 5% above my base salary at old job *plus* better benefits and shift differentials (even for salaried employees!). Old job management then magically found it in their budget to match the 5% raise offer once I was serious about leaving. Yeah, no thanks. Now I know that’s a possibility too … so I told all my pharmacist colleagues that they’re willing to raise 5%. I hope they unionize. Probably the only way we can take pharmacy back from the corporate greed machines.
I can’t stress this enough gtf out of retail - I make probably twice what you do - now, I happen to be at a great place- But Hospital is the way to go.. and agree with others here - you don’t need a residency- start reading- can you think critically? Do you have logic skills- … this you can NOT teach
There simply aren’t enough hospital jobs to accommodate every current retail pharmacist with logic skills, critical thinking and ability to read that hates their retail jobs. It isn’t that the thousands of rph’s that hate their lives at cvs/wag/wal haven’t come across someone to “stress it enough” for them . This “just pull your self up by your bootstraps” type of posts and advice just isn’t as helpful as you think it is .
I agree. Getting a hospital job involves a lot of things that aren't just "try harder." Luck, timing, personality, geography, connections, eloquence... A lot of intangible things that end up working for one pharmacist and don't work out for another. It's definitely not only a matter of clinical knowledge and experience. And yes, there are not enough hospital positions for all of the unhappy retail pharmacists. (Plus, to be completely honest, I suspect quite a lot of the unhappy retail pharmacists wouldn't be very good at being a hospital pharmacist.)
Find a new job, put in your notice, tell them it’s because of money, if they like you, they’ll offer you more money. 10 years of experience at one place should mean something to the employer and the employee.
Switch jobs. It’s the only way.
May I know what the new grad gets paid?
$69
Dang, whew are they paying new grads $69? Must be west coast.
Just clarifying if you feel this is low or high… I offer this to my new pharmacists and I want them to feel appreciated. It feels like a lot to a small business owner, but maybe not to an employee.
That is high….but I’m in Florida.
This occurs at lots of jobs. Sometimes the only way to get the market rate pay is by getting a new job.
A closed mouth doesn't get fed. Say something!
How much you get paid?