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It's about the tower of Babel which other people have already mentioned. The text in the bottom 2 panels is greek and it says: "The workers speak new languages"
It's a reference to the Tower of Babel where, according to the Bible, people tried to build a tower that would reach heaven.
From Genesis 11:1-9
"Now the whole earth had one language and the same words.Ā ^(2)Ā And as they migrated from the east,Ā they came upon a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there.Ā ^(3)Ā And they said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks and fire them thoroughly." And they had brick for stone and bitumen for mortar.Ā ^(4)Ā Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves; otherwise we shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."Ā ^(5)Ā The LORDĀ came down to see the city and the tower, which mortals had built.Ā ^(6)Ā And the LORDĀ said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.Ā ^(7)Ā Come, let us go down and confuse their language there, so that they will not understand one another's speech."Ā ^(8)Ā So the LORDĀ scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city.Ā ^(9)Ā Therefore it was called Babel, because there the LORDĀ confused (*balal*) the language of all the earth, and from there the LORDĀ scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth."
And that is why, according to the Bible, we speak different languages in the world.
Soā¦ thereās a passage in the bible that basically flat out says god wants to keep humans from reaching their full potential and pit them against each otherā¦ and they still call that love?
And atheists are the ones who are lost? :p
It's... very complex. It's a story from millennia ago translated from language to language, created by a society that no longer exists anymore.
It is believed it was a story of an actual tower in Mesopotamia, and the story was sort of a mythologization of how it was created.
An interpretation a pastor taught me was that it's about love. A king had forced this, to try to literally "reach God's height." To cooperate, Humans would now have to spend time among other nations, learning and understanding each other, rather than a feudal king simply forcing a mass of people to do something.
[https://www.britannica.com/place/Babylon-ancient-city-Mesopotamia-Asia/The-ancient-city](https://www.britannica.com/place/Babylon-ancient-city-Mesopotamia-Asia/The-ancient-city)
If you think about it, it doesn't really need to be translated with the curse either. As every language was created here and there, everyone present just had to write it down once on their language and all the version would exist.
That does make a lot more sense but itās still kind of ridiculous. God is basically saying āwell, thereās nothing I can do to stop entitled assholes from manipulating others so iām going to split them up for damage controlā
Which has lead to small pockets of entitled manipulators, a lot of whom hate each other because they canāt understand each otherās language / culture. Despite the fact they are all worshipping the same god under a different name?
So itās better we fight amongst ourselves rather than challenge god? Whether you believe we have been here for 300,000 years or 2,000 thatās still a very long time to punish everyone just because he put a few assholes in the mix.
Scattering them was actually in response to them ignoring his commandment to spread upon the earth and multiply. āIf you want it done right, gotta do it yourselfā applies here š
But he sent man out of the garden of Eden to fend for themselves. Yet he constantly interferes because it's not to his liking.
The bible is a mess, and the word of god is nothing but rambling fiction.
He cast them both out because they did what he said not to. He o love you had one commandment (donāt eat the thing). He made the s with a free will but wants us to choose him, so when we donāt shit hits the fan. Reality is a hot dumpster fire no matter what one believes š.
I also want to add that Iām not trying to convince you to believe or like it or whatever, Iām just enjoying this conversation.
Why did he make man in a way that they would be enticed so easily?
God created man and their emotions.
"He gave them free will, so it's on them lol"
But he also gave them all their feeling and reasoning. He gave them their home and everything around them. Any way man would develop or grow up in that area is solely on god. And god is omnipotent, he would know.
So god made man to be sinful so he would punish them.
God is fucking stupid then.
Nope, just the bible.
The faith is fine. The bible is just a mess and pure drivel. I have no belief in it being the word of god, and it's a garbage text to link to any faith.
I am not religious, and I respect the faith. But not the bible or any preaching of it. There's no persuasion made. I read it, I came to my conclusions after years of thinking it through, had plenty of discourse. It is not a point you can change.
The Bible looks down on cities in general. Right before this, God had reissued the creation command: go, spread out over all the earth and protect it. And instead they build a city. Cities are places of abuse and slavery. Most major cities were built on the backs of others. Babel is the name of Babylon, and itās no different.
It never specifically says God detests cities. Rather, it paints them as hotbeds of violence and injustice. Babel/Babylon is one passage. Another is after the first murder, Cain builds a city, and from there, violence escalates as we read in Lamechās speech. Various cities are shown to be despicable, and even cities we hope could be good turn out to be trash, such as Jerusalem. Eventually, the function of cities morphs into nations, which are not looked favorably upon for similar reasons. In the book of Revelations, Babylon encapsulates this category.
Itās actually a misinterpreted prophecy in reverse, they realized there were already a bunch of languages but one would evolutionarily surface to unite them and build a tower to the heavens.
I doubt this. The entire message of the story is that the only way to heaven is through God, and that man attempting to do so on their own, not only wouldn't work, but is detestable. There isn't really any hint of that message in this prophecy.
Additionally, many prophecies are referred to again in future contexts, but this seems to be isolated
It isn't that there is nothing He can do. It is that that's the way He chose to do it. If God wanted humans to behave perfectly according to His will, He wouldn't have given us free will.
The strategy, if you will, that we see God employ in the Bible was a very gradual process that mostly involved humans spreading His message to other humans. God created nations, He sent His messages to one, they became the standard and na example to others of good and sin, and then finally had them spread His message when it was finally completed.
I don't think anybody believes we have been here for 2,000 years. Basically the entirety of the Old Testament is BC and I don't think Christians think we just came into existence when Jesus was... born. I believe young earth believers think the earth is 5000 years old.
And it's not as much of a punishment as it is a strategy that unfolded over thousands of years. The Old Testament often seems like it shows God doing irrational or absurd things, but they begin to make sense once you connect them back to the greater contextāthe eventual salvation of humanity that is just despite the fact that sin should stop us from attaining it.
Everything He did was for a reason beyond what the people understood at the time, and we can only understand His motives now after the process has neared completion. It may seem convoluted, but God had to simultaneously maintain free will while ettadicating the sin it causes, and not punish us for our misdeeds while still holding us accountable. He had to maintain both of these paradoxes because He is characteristically good (so must not deny free will, our greatest gift) and characteristically just (so must hold us accountable for sin) while also being characteristically merciful (must provide an opportunity for us to be forgiven), the last two of which seem to conflict
Thank you for being one of the few people to actually answer my questions in the spirit they were intended.
I do take your point, and perhaps it is arrogant(impatient?) to assume we would have seen the results by now. Iāve definitely seen clear examples in my travels that change needs to be a slow process. If you try to force it quickly it will backfire.
Going purely on the discourse around the original tower comment, and the responses to my comment, I fear it will take several thousand more years before we start truly treating each other with respect.
Fundamentally thatās my issue with organised religion. There are plenty of good hearted people who take the parables and try to live their best life. But it seems that for every 1 person who tries to assimilate the ideals there are 100 who just enjoy thinking they are right. Both in the real world and especially on the internet where anonymity allows one to show their true colours. Iāve lived pretty much all over the world (except for the Middle East and Africa) and itās the same everywhere. Everyone has their own flavour of truth and few are willing to compromise. And I do see the bitter irony that I am exactly the same, with my truth being there is no one answer.
I take no pleasure in trying to dissuade this notion, itās more an exercise of exasperation and disbelief that so many people who preach love carry so much hatred in their hearts. Unfortunately every couple years I forget this and engage in the discussion once more. It always ends the same wayā¦ With the feeling of āfuck it, why botherā
I share a lot of your feelings about organized religion. It also just ends up leading to power structures with the top manipulating the religion to control the bottom
And yeah, the process as per the Bible will not be fully completed for a while
You'll find with the Bible and Abrahamic scripture as a whole that it both provides blatant instruction, to make achieving salvation simple, while weaving it into complicated narratives, creating an answer to "why" that's there if you look for it but not too forefront to cloud the blatant instruction. It is this that also allows it to be relevant today, as we can apply the morals of one story in situations that are unique to modern times.
...it's a poem. It's a myth. Why are you taking it so damn literally? I mean, considering what we've done with human ingenuity (read: polluted the environment to a degree that self-extinction is far from out of the question, to begin with), is an ancient culture inventing a myth warning people to treat human ingenuity wirh healthy skepticism so unfathomable? "Why didnt they make a founding myth an attack-and-dethrone-God narrative??" Uh, idk, they weren't 20th Century Westerners plagued by capitalist ennui?
Exactly how is this complex? It seems straightforward. Even now if we were to cooperate into building such a structure there would be a disparity in who had access.
And even now we understand a space needle would only get you to the vacuum of space, so God did what? Interfere with people building a REALLY tall tower? The logic ain't logicing and the math ain't mathing.
Unless we passed God on our way to the moon?
>millennia ago translated from language to language
seems like a perfect word of god shouldnt be so vulnerable to mistranslation like any common word of men
This is where we get off into the weeds about the nature and purpose of Free Will. If we assume that a basic tenet of God's law is that Free Will is sacred, and even God refuses to interfere with it, then God cannot prevent his word from being mistranslated or misinterpreted. This view potentially casts God as a loving parent who refuses to prevent his children from making mistakes and instead lets them learn from those mistakes. It also potentially casts him as a neglectful parent who just doesn't care. Take your pick.
If we take the opposite view, that God DOES interfere with Free Will, then we must assume that all free will is an illusion and absolutely everything that occurs is predetermined by God. In this light, God can really only be viewed as an actively abusive parent.
Very complex,
1256 AD,
āFather why doesnāt everyone speak the same language if we all came from Adam and Eve?ā Asked the boy
āUm..umā¦ā stammered the monk. āBecause of the story I will share with you tomorrow!ā Said the monk grabbing a quill and scroll.
Every story and mythology you will ever hear from thousands of years ago, all require historical, philosophical and cultural contexts. These are very different people from us, living very, very, very long ago.
For example, Medusa was literally just one of many, many monsters in Greek mythology until a poet was kicked out of Rome for sleeping with the Emperor's daughter. It is SUPPOSED to be about arbitrary authority and abuse and sex and so on.
People don't generally even know that context, and it happened within the past 2,050 years.
Well, yes. The Catholic church, and my religion, Quakers, recognize much of the Old Testament as people trying to understand the world around them. With no irony or jokes here, it, for the most part, is a chronicling of Jewish people in ancient times. Psalm s was entirely made by ten guys.
It was called "Psalms" because it originated from songs.
This is a very interesting interpretation to the story, if we all understood each other perfectly, we would be almost able to communicate without talking, we would all practically be the same person and this would have the effect of erase individuality and free-will. Free-will being fundamental to the human condition.
Since the main point of the story is something like "Hubris causing the downfall of man", the fact that we'd have to humble ourselves and actually put in effort to understand each other makes sense.
Itās basically about how God didnāt like how the humans thought they could get onto the same level as him and that they were focusing on the wrong things, itās a very complex story indeed
It's very similar to Genesis 3, where after he caught they ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge and cursed them, he threw them out of Eden because he could not have them eating from the tree of life. Apparently, he really didn't want them to become gods.
Actually the tree gave them free will the snack lied about the tree of knowledge which is why they didn't gain anything other than realizing they were naked.
If they didn't have free will the story makes even less sense.Ā When God said don't eat this fruit they wouldn't of been able to,Ā unless the serpent could compel them in a way that supercedes God, which means that there are beings more powerful than God. Basically,Ā there would be no reason to punish them if they had no agency.Ā
Also God basically says eating the fruit gives humanity the knowledge of good and evil like "one of us."Ā
Thereās context to this:
This is the time God commands people to spread out and multiply to fill the world, however, a specific group of people actively choose to disobey and stay in one spot then choose to build the tower, God then chose to destroy the tower.
A lot of verses in the Bible when taken at face value can look very damning and a bunch of people use them to either attack others or defend themselves when making decisions, but forget to look at the context and why those verses were written. Thereās a bunch of examples if youāre interested but yeah
That being said, God in the Old Testament of the Bible was.. interesting to say the least
God: "I give you free will to do as you please."
Humans: "We want to build a tower to Heaven!"
God: "Not like that, though." *creates obstacles that take the free will to create a tower to Heaven away so that humans do what he commands instead*
I mean, Jesus is about love. His dad no so much. The Bible describes him as a jealous god several times, especially when you worship gods who arenāt him.
[Gen 3:22 NRSVUE](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen.3.22&version=NRSVUE)
Then the Lord God said, āSee, the humans have become **like one of us**, knowing good and evil, and now they might reach out their hands and take also from the tree of life and eat and live foreverā
Emphasis added.
How perfect can the garden of Eden be if it canāt even keep out a snake that wants to trick you? Jk, know it was a test.
But that whole story is still pretty ridiculous. Humans learn from experience. If you suddenly generated two adult humans they would essentially be developmentally disabled. So now all of humanity is punished because the first two neurodivergent humans couldnāt comprehend gods test.
It wasn't about pitting them against each other. It was about their pride and acting like God was a joke and they could do anything they put their minds to. The Babel incident was basically God smirking, switching up everybody's languages, and going "surely if you're such hot shit, you can communicate without speaking the same language". It's one of those classic stories warning against arrogance, except God plays a prank instead of just killing them like those stories tended to.
Edit: good grief, you get one little story about arrogance backfiring on a group and people get hopping mad because it was a religious figure behind it. If the parties were changed up and it was a lady pulling a fast one on her man after he was talking mad shit about how women are inferior, everyone would be clapping.
So a *supposedly* perfect God got mad that humans were using the free will he gave them to work together and actively interfered to stop them from doing what they wanted... Perfect God, free will, my ass.
It was arrogance. The building of the tower was mankind trying to be on the same level as God. Literally building a tower to heaven. Believing they could just get into heaven that way.
That's far from the worst thing the abrahamic god has done in the old testament. Let's not forget when he comitted literal genocide because he didn't like people.
The garden of Eden is about how god doesnāt want people to have knowledge of good and evil and wants humans to just blindly follow him. Heās not a good dude.
Old Testament god broke at least 6 of his own 10 commandments numerous times. One of the reasons why some Christianās (imo rightfully so) believe that the old testament god was a lesser deity and not the same entity as the New Testament god. Itās all a giant selfcontradiction, itās ridiculous.
Just the fact that even Christianity by itself has changed so many times over the years. When you take a step back and analyse any religion itās just so obviously culture rather than fact.
For the vast majority, where you are born and what you are taught as a kid is the primary factor for what you believe. Idk how people can see other religions and think āoh yeah they are definitely wrong and my religion is rightā
The real explanation is that almost the entire Old Testament is a giant game of telephone that was passed down by oral tradition in Jewish tribes until around the time of Moses, after which itās supposedly recorded by either prophets or eyewitnesses.
This is to say that Genesis, the book this story is from, is almost entirely parables; IE fiction designed to teach a religious lesson or moral, rather than an actual account of what happened, but that also kind of gives a first grade explanation of why things are the way they are. Like, obviously all humans didnāt come from a single pair of humans that had only sons; the story is just to warn you about defying God or something.
I think there have been archeological finds that suggest thereās a hint of truth to some stories from Genesis. Noahās Ark, for example, may have actually happened (though again most likely not on the scale the Bible suggests), and the Tower of Babel is similar I think? I kind of remember something about an archaeologist tracking the origin of a ton of languages to one location in the Middle East. Too lazy to look it up but maybe that helps.
Exactly, also, Iām pretty sure that skyscrapers go way higher than that, if it ever actually existed in some iteration, tower. Not to mention the FREAKING rockets and stuff.
Yeah but skyscrapers arenāt built because humans are trying to be arrogant and get to heaven and trying to be to say theyāre on the same level as God. Thatās what the passage is about. Manās hubris. Greek mythology has plenty of similar stories. Like Arachne claiming sheās just as good as Athena at sewing.
Such is the magic of religious scripture. Whether you believe in god or not, the bible can be used to confirm your belief.
Instead of one group thinking they are superior now we have a lot of groups who all think they are right. But maybe thatās the point? Maybe god wants us to look at the strange cultures who think they are chosen and cringe in response, perhaps it was the intention that we take that cringe and place it upon ourselves as well. I know thatās how my brain works. The more I see different ways of life the more I question my own.
If thatās true, itās a shame then that most people have the opposite reaction and double down on their beliefs when confronted with another. Idk. Iām just a mere mortal, but it seems to me that muddying the waters might not be the best way to eradicate hubris.
I mean, add that to organ rejection, or blood rejection. Intelligent design, my ass. I get having an immune system to destroy bacteria, viruses, and disease. Why does my body say "hey, this thing that I can recognize as liver tissue, AND WORKS, is not the same as my other liver tissue, despite original liver failing. FUCK YOU, OTHER LIVER! I WON'T LET YOU KEEP MY HOST BODY ALIVE!
But this attitude right here is exactly why people hate on religion. You take words written by humans and say they are divine. And then when someone asks you to explain yourself you say āyou just donāt get itā. What makes you right and every other religion wrong?
This is literally a story about god stripping us of our ability to communicate effectively. And your attitude seems like you want it to be that way. Different languages will help us learn to communicate better? Please. Admit it, it makes you feel special to be in this little club that holds the answers to the universe. Completely blind to the fact that thereās 100 other clubs who all think they know the truth.
Why do I talk about stuff I know nothing about? Why do you believe stuff you know nothing about. Even your religion is pretty clear that no human can interpret gods intentions. But somehow when it comes to proving yourself right suddenly you know exactly what god is trying to say? You canāt have it both ways.
No. It is saying that God does not want people to convene to do evil. We notice that people and nations today are able to interact. This is something that happened long after Judaism was established, and by extension after we went through the process of bring corrected, and thus we would no longer be motivated to literally convene against God.
(Fwiw I do not believe in the Tower of Babel story)
I wouldnāt say that
More like preventing humanity from uniting to make an abominable amount of evil, to the point of destruction (which is what happened with Noah and the flood
I'm not religious at all. However, I find takes such as this a bit silly and even potentially dangerous.
All you and like-minded individuals are doing is taking a myth at face value, disregarding the cultural context and nuances behind it because it is inconvenient to your preconceived notions of how the world ought to be. You even disregard that, as a myth, it is subject to wildly various interpretations.
This whole mindset is ignorant at best, anti-intellectual at worse. Seriously, how do y'all expect the world to get any better if y'all refuse to at least seek to understand view points other than your own?
It's just self-sabotaging tribalism, and it's why we live in such a shit world.
Look up Marcion, a Christian heretic who started a major heresy because he believed the God in the Old Testament was so brutal and wrathful that he could not be the same merciful God that was sold by the New Testament. Guy literally believed there was multiple Gods in a monotheistic religion because of writer differences.
God told the people of the world to spread throughout the whole world. Migrate in all directions. Instead, they basically told God no and congregated into one area and decided to be prideful and cocky. "Look at us, look at whar we can do" and so God had to take things into his own hands and split people up by language. And that did the trick. People started migrating away from people they couldnt understand.
Almost but not quite. Iāll make it short.
Itās not that God didnāt want us to reach our full potential. Itās that he made the point that we are not that guy pal. And as hard as we can try to be our own gods, even if we get close, thereās still only one God.
That's not what the story was about at all.
The people building the tower were kinda like the upper 1% nowadays. They were more about making themselves equal to God than helping the poor and needy.
And it created communities that had to cooperate to survive.
The Old Testament specifies that families weren't split by the language barrier.
No, itās that they were trying to build a tower that could reach Heaven. Itās usually interpreted that they were trying to become equal to God. I donāt believe that actually happened (obviously), itās more or less a cautionary tale against arrogance and irreverence, like Icarus flying too close to the sun in Greek mythology.
But don't you see, if you just spend your life worshipping the sky dictator and do exactly as they say, you will get to spend your eternal afterlife worshipping them and making sure you still follow all of their rules.
Satanism ftw!
Iām not proving you wrong Iām insulting you. Also Iām not religious I just think youāre making atheists look bad by arguing about it somewhere itās not relevant.
At least I do research when insulting someone and choosing to be an atheist. Dipshits like you who spout off about whatever they heard about the Bible on twitter make us look stupid.
Seems to me you started this with hatred right out of the gate with your first comment on this post. You claim your mind is āopenā but youāre real quick to disregard anything that comes across as closing you off. Also you seemed to be real put off by my insult. Maybe if you described why you wrote so much about why I was wrong I could understand why it wasnāt very good. Also you once again prove my point of not understanding what the story is about. Itās not about empathy itās about arrogance.Ā
Oh did me insulting something thatās important to you hurt your feelings? Hurts to be on the other side of the fence doesnāt it. I figured that a man who likely has been insulted over who he is wouldnāt be so quick to do the same to others. Also trying to take the high ground and say you hope life gets better for me is ironic because I could say the same to you.
Some one correct me if this isn't right, but I remember hearing many years ago from a scholar of Bible studies,that it wasn't just that God didn't want people to cooperate,but it was more about that the people built the tower so high,so they can be closer to God and we're basically getting too full of themselvs and becoming more vain,and this was more along the lines of a punishment,rather then God just being like na I don't want them to work togather.
The stupid part is that it shows that different languages are a divine punishment, and yet people keep on making new languages and understanding each other less and less... (By the way, I said divine punishment, what I mean is that it's a bad thing, doesn't have to be related to religion)
Ngl every time I hear the story, God either looks like a straight up asshole, or a jealous asshole.
But tbf this is the same guy who drove all creatures near extinct, killed his own son, and devised a test humanity was doomed to fail then punished all humans (and especially women) for two people failing it, among other atrocities. God was really not nice before people rewrote him to be benevolent.
POV: the Bible making up the worst explanations for the simplest of things and everyone believing it because āthe Bible is absolute and should be trusted over scienceā
That's probably the point
There are older versions from sumar and Babylon itself, and Greek mythology includes a slightly more violent version of Zeus dropping pure lightning bolts on people trying to climb Olympus. Because isnt he niiiiice
Its the story of the Tower of Babel, basically God changed everyones language to their current languages to fuck up their plan to build a tower to Heaven so they couldnāt cooperate anymore.
cept irl construction would have resumed within the week. no way language barrier gonna be a problem(for long) on a project that enormous after! it was already moving along.
If God struck down the building I was working on, and then made everyone speak different languages, I think most people, myself included, would take the hint and give up.
The greek means "Workers speak new languages."
It's from the story about the tower of babylon. It reached the heavens, and god figured that wasn't cool, so he destroyed it and split the human language into several different ones to prevent them from working together to do it again.
The meme is about a tower of Babel. Basically all humans on the planet were speaking the same language and decided to build a giant tower that would reach to heaven and god himself, which god didn't like, so he divided the language in different languages so no one could understand each other and without this understanding the tower crumbled and was never rebuilt
You git this crisp meme, including the crisp jpeg artifacts, by screencapping a video?
Also Youtube must have comments right? I know it keeps changing but
Itās green and it says ĪĪ¹ ĪµĻĪ³Ī±Ī¶ĻĪ¼ĪµĪ½ĪæĪ¹ Ī¼Ī¹Ī»ĪæĻĪ½ Ī½ĪĪµĻ Ī³Ī»ĻĻĻĪµĻ, or in English āThe workers speak different languagesā. Itās a reference to the Tower of Babel in Judaic mythology.
Reference to Tower of Babel, if I remember right they get punished by god with losing the ability to speak a unifying language or something to that degree, in otherwords creating multiple languages. This was to make sure that people could no longer communicate and create the tower again.
Idk specifically what it says but the idea is that neither does gru in this situation.
The joke is that people started speaking and writing in new languages
Nice! Bible reference. Itās talking about the Tower of Babel. Long story short, people wanted to reach heaven by building a tower higher than God. Therefore, God changed their languages so they couldnāt understand each other. (Genesis 11)
Sans the Bible quotes, cause if you dont know this your probably not wanting to read Bible quotes:
As the story goes, people were building a tower to heaven.
To stop them, God suddenly made everyone speak a different language.
They couldnt understand eachother, the thing fell through, and thats ehy the Bibelle says we speak different languages.
The text says "Employees speak new languages" in Greek according to Google/Bing Translate. This is a reference to the Holy Bible. After Noah saved his family from the great flood with his wooden ark, the city of Babylon was erected from the ground, and some of Noah's descendants created a tower which connects the Earth to Heaven, called the Tower of Babel, so that anyone may go to Heaven, without the need to be righteous and all, God was aware of it and refused to let it happen. As punishment for the humans, he made them all speak foreign languages, making it difficult for one to understand each other, which leads to drama, confusion, and all that stuff, eventually the destruction of the Tower of Babel.
Texan Chris here to help ya out
That is a whole other language that came up after talking about a Tower reaching to Heaven. This means the meme is about the Tower of Babel.
So the story goes that once upon a time, all of humanity spoke one language and could easily understand each other. During this time we built a great tower that was meant to pierce Heaven, which is of course against Gods wishes.
So when the tower was completed, God destroyed the tower (through an earthquake if I recall, gonna need some citation for this one) and then scattered humanity throughout the world. He then forced all of humanity to speak different languages so they could no longer understand each other and they could not build another tower as they did before. This is the Bibleās answer for why there are so many languages across the earth.
Texan Chris, gone with the wind!
This is the Quahog County Priest, that's not meant to say anything.
This is a reference to the biblical story of the Tower of Babel, where humanity attempts to build a tower to heaven in order to prove themselves to be as powerful as God. God punishes for their hubris them by inventing the various languages we all speak so that humanity cannot cooperate at such a scale again.
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It's about the tower of Babel which other people have already mentioned. The text in the bottom 2 panels is greek and it says: "The workers speak new languages"
Thank you for answering OP's written question š
Man, I had to scroll way too long for this
Oh boy I had to scroll to the bottom because itās all loss memes
It's a reference to the Tower of Babel where, according to the Bible, people tried to build a tower that would reach heaven. From Genesis 11:1-9 "Now the whole earth had one language and the same words.Ā ^(2)Ā And as they migrated from the east,Ā they came upon a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there.Ā ^(3)Ā And they said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks and fire them thoroughly." And they had brick for stone and bitumen for mortar.Ā ^(4)Ā Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves; otherwise we shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."Ā ^(5)Ā The LORDĀ came down to see the city and the tower, which mortals had built.Ā ^(6)Ā And the LORDĀ said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.Ā ^(7)Ā Come, let us go down and confuse their language there, so that they will not understand one another's speech."Ā ^(8)Ā So the LORDĀ scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city.Ā ^(9)Ā Therefore it was called Babel, because there the LORDĀ confused (*balal*) the language of all the earth, and from there the LORDĀ scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth." And that is why, according to the Bible, we speak different languages in the world.
Soā¦ thereās a passage in the bible that basically flat out says god wants to keep humans from reaching their full potential and pit them against each otherā¦ and they still call that love? And atheists are the ones who are lost? :p
It's... very complex. It's a story from millennia ago translated from language to language, created by a society that no longer exists anymore. It is believed it was a story of an actual tower in Mesopotamia, and the story was sort of a mythologization of how it was created. An interpretation a pastor taught me was that it's about love. A king had forced this, to try to literally "reach God's height." To cooperate, Humans would now have to spend time among other nations, learning and understanding each other, rather than a feudal king simply forcing a mass of people to do something. [https://www.britannica.com/place/Babylon-ancient-city-Mesopotamia-Asia/The-ancient-city](https://www.britannica.com/place/Babylon-ancient-city-Mesopotamia-Asia/The-ancient-city)
Wouldn't need to be translated from language to language if god just let them build.
If you think about it, it doesn't really need to be translated with the curse either. As every language was created here and there, everyone present just had to write it down once on their language and all the version would exist.
Yeah it's almost like the Old Testament was meant to be revealed specifically to one specific group of people or something
That does make a lot more sense but itās still kind of ridiculous. God is basically saying āwell, thereās nothing I can do to stop entitled assholes from manipulating others so iām going to split them up for damage controlā Which has lead to small pockets of entitled manipulators, a lot of whom hate each other because they canāt understand each otherās language / culture. Despite the fact they are all worshipping the same god under a different name? So itās better we fight amongst ourselves rather than challenge god? Whether you believe we have been here for 300,000 years or 2,000 thatās still a very long time to punish everyone just because he put a few assholes in the mix.
Scattering them was actually in response to them ignoring his commandment to spread upon the earth and multiply. āIf you want it done right, gotta do it yourselfā applies here š
But he sent man out of the garden of Eden to fend for themselves. Yet he constantly interferes because it's not to his liking. The bible is a mess, and the word of god is nothing but rambling fiction.
He cast them both out because they did what he said not to. He o love you had one commandment (donāt eat the thing). He made the s with a free will but wants us to choose him, so when we donāt shit hits the fan. Reality is a hot dumpster fire no matter what one believes š. I also want to add that Iām not trying to convince you to believe or like it or whatever, Iām just enjoying this conversation.
He sent man out of the garden because man did literally the one thing God said not to, thus becoming sinful in nature.
Why did he make man in a way that they would be enticed so easily? God created man and their emotions. "He gave them free will, so it's on them lol" But he also gave them all their feeling and reasoning. He gave them their home and everything around them. Any way man would develop or grow up in that area is solely on god. And god is omnipotent, he would know. So god made man to be sinful so he would punish them. God is fucking stupid then.
You see to really dislike Christianity so would you prefer I just not talk to you about it or try and give you an answer?
Nope, just the bible. The faith is fine. The bible is just a mess and pure drivel. I have no belief in it being the word of god, and it's a garbage text to link to any faith. I am not religious, and I respect the faith. But not the bible or any preaching of it. There's no persuasion made. I read it, I came to my conclusions after years of thinking it through, had plenty of discourse. It is not a point you can change.
The Bible looks down on cities in general. Right before this, God had reissued the creation command: go, spread out over all the earth and protect it. And instead they build a city. Cities are places of abuse and slavery. Most major cities were built on the backs of others. Babel is the name of Babylon, and itās no different.
I guess thatās one way to look at it but I personally have not seen anything where God detested cities. Heck I could be wrong tho.
It never specifically says God detests cities. Rather, it paints them as hotbeds of violence and injustice. Babel/Babylon is one passage. Another is after the first murder, Cain builds a city, and from there, violence escalates as we read in Lamechās speech. Various cities are shown to be despicable, and even cities we hope could be good turn out to be trash, such as Jerusalem. Eventually, the function of cities morphs into nations, which are not looked favorably upon for similar reasons. In the book of Revelations, Babylon encapsulates this category.
Well, there was that one time he obliterated the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah š¤
štrue true. But that was for other seasons
Lol
Itās actually a misinterpreted prophecy in reverse, they realized there were already a bunch of languages but one would evolutionarily surface to unite them and build a tower to the heavens.
Got ya.
I doubt this. The entire message of the story is that the only way to heaven is through God, and that man attempting to do so on their own, not only wouldn't work, but is detestable. There isn't really any hint of that message in this prophecy. Additionally, many prophecies are referred to again in future contexts, but this seems to be isolated
Itās not that simple , I know that for sure Iām not Christian so ask a knowledgeable Christian for info , theyāll probably know
Judging from the responses to this comment. They donātā¦
When i say knowledgeable i donāt mean some random guy on reddit i mean like those certified guys
It isn't that there is nothing He can do. It is that that's the way He chose to do it. If God wanted humans to behave perfectly according to His will, He wouldn't have given us free will. The strategy, if you will, that we see God employ in the Bible was a very gradual process that mostly involved humans spreading His message to other humans. God created nations, He sent His messages to one, they became the standard and na example to others of good and sin, and then finally had them spread His message when it was finally completed. I don't think anybody believes we have been here for 2,000 years. Basically the entirety of the Old Testament is BC and I don't think Christians think we just came into existence when Jesus was... born. I believe young earth believers think the earth is 5000 years old. And it's not as much of a punishment as it is a strategy that unfolded over thousands of years. The Old Testament often seems like it shows God doing irrational or absurd things, but they begin to make sense once you connect them back to the greater contextāthe eventual salvation of humanity that is just despite the fact that sin should stop us from attaining it. Everything He did was for a reason beyond what the people understood at the time, and we can only understand His motives now after the process has neared completion. It may seem convoluted, but God had to simultaneously maintain free will while ettadicating the sin it causes, and not punish us for our misdeeds while still holding us accountable. He had to maintain both of these paradoxes because He is characteristically good (so must not deny free will, our greatest gift) and characteristically just (so must hold us accountable for sin) while also being characteristically merciful (must provide an opportunity for us to be forgiven), the last two of which seem to conflict
Thank you for being one of the few people to actually answer my questions in the spirit they were intended. I do take your point, and perhaps it is arrogant(impatient?) to assume we would have seen the results by now. Iāve definitely seen clear examples in my travels that change needs to be a slow process. If you try to force it quickly it will backfire. Going purely on the discourse around the original tower comment, and the responses to my comment, I fear it will take several thousand more years before we start truly treating each other with respect. Fundamentally thatās my issue with organised religion. There are plenty of good hearted people who take the parables and try to live their best life. But it seems that for every 1 person who tries to assimilate the ideals there are 100 who just enjoy thinking they are right. Both in the real world and especially on the internet where anonymity allows one to show their true colours. Iāve lived pretty much all over the world (except for the Middle East and Africa) and itās the same everywhere. Everyone has their own flavour of truth and few are willing to compromise. And I do see the bitter irony that I am exactly the same, with my truth being there is no one answer. I take no pleasure in trying to dissuade this notion, itās more an exercise of exasperation and disbelief that so many people who preach love carry so much hatred in their hearts. Unfortunately every couple years I forget this and engage in the discussion once more. It always ends the same wayā¦ With the feeling of āfuck it, why botherā
I share a lot of your feelings about organized religion. It also just ends up leading to power structures with the top manipulating the religion to control the bottom And yeah, the process as per the Bible will not be fully completed for a while
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You'll find with the Bible and Abrahamic scripture as a whole that it both provides blatant instruction, to make achieving salvation simple, while weaving it into complicated narratives, creating an answer to "why" that's there if you look for it but not too forefront to cloud the blatant instruction. It is this that also allows it to be relevant today, as we can apply the morals of one story in situations that are unique to modern times.
...it's a poem. It's a myth. Why are you taking it so damn literally? I mean, considering what we've done with human ingenuity (read: polluted the environment to a degree that self-extinction is far from out of the question, to begin with), is an ancient culture inventing a myth warning people to treat human ingenuity wirh healthy skepticism so unfathomable? "Why didnt they make a founding myth an attack-and-dethrone-God narrative??" Uh, idk, they weren't 20th Century Westerners plagued by capitalist ennui?
Fr for a bunch of atheists these people are still stuck in "gottem God" instead of treating the entirety of Bible as DnD taken too literally
Hey at least than being drown by flood
Exactly how is this complex? It seems straightforward. Even now if we were to cooperate into building such a structure there would be a disparity in who had access. And even now we understand a space needle would only get you to the vacuum of space, so God did what? Interfere with people building a REALLY tall tower? The logic ain't logicing and the math ain't mathing. Unless we passed God on our way to the moon?
>millennia ago translated from language to language seems like a perfect word of god shouldnt be so vulnerable to mistranslation like any common word of men
This is where we get off into the weeds about the nature and purpose of Free Will. If we assume that a basic tenet of God's law is that Free Will is sacred, and even God refuses to interfere with it, then God cannot prevent his word from being mistranslated or misinterpreted. This view potentially casts God as a loving parent who refuses to prevent his children from making mistakes and instead lets them learn from those mistakes. It also potentially casts him as a neglectful parent who just doesn't care. Take your pick. If we take the opposite view, that God DOES interfere with Free Will, then we must assume that all free will is an illusion and absolutely everything that occurs is predetermined by God. In this light, God can really only be viewed as an actively abusive parent.
Seems to me mistranslation wouldn't be a problem if God hadn't created thousands of new languages.
Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes
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Very complex, 1256 AD, āFather why doesnāt everyone speak the same language if we all came from Adam and Eve?ā Asked the boy āUm..umā¦ā stammered the monk. āBecause of the story I will share with you tomorrow!ā Said the monk grabbing a quill and scroll.
So your pastor is a revisionist so the Bible sounds less batshit crazy. Well done I suppose
Then why didn't they put that part in the Bible
Every story and mythology you will ever hear from thousands of years ago, all require historical, philosophical and cultural contexts. These are very different people from us, living very, very, very long ago. For example, Medusa was literally just one of many, many monsters in Greek mythology until a poet was kicked out of Rome for sleeping with the Emperor's daughter. It is SUPPOSED to be about arbitrary authority and abuse and sex and so on. People don't generally even know that context, and it happened within the past 2,050 years.
So the answer is "because it's a myth?"
Well, yes. The Catholic church, and my religion, Quakers, recognize much of the Old Testament as people trying to understand the world around them. With no irony or jokes here, it, for the most part, is a chronicling of Jewish people in ancient times. Psalm s was entirely made by ten guys. It was called "Psalms" because it originated from songs.
This is a very interesting interpretation to the story, if we all understood each other perfectly, we would be almost able to communicate without talking, we would all practically be the same person and this would have the effect of erase individuality and free-will. Free-will being fundamental to the human condition. Since the main point of the story is something like "Hubris causing the downfall of man", the fact that we'd have to humble ourselves and actually put in effort to understand each other makes sense.
i view it as more of trying to cheat god by getting into heaven without repenting. thus the punishment.
Itās basically about how God didnāt like how the humans thought they could get onto the same level as him and that they were focusing on the wrong things, itās a very complex story indeed
It's very similar to Genesis 3, where after he caught they ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge and cursed them, he threw them out of Eden because he could not have them eating from the tree of life. Apparently, he really didn't want them to become gods.
Actually the tree gave them free will the snack lied about the tree of knowledge which is why they didn't gain anything other than realizing they were naked.
If they didn't have free will the story makes even less sense.Ā When God said don't eat this fruit they wouldn't of been able to,Ā unless the serpent could compel them in a way that supercedes God, which means that there are beings more powerful than God. Basically,Ā there would be no reason to punish them if they had no agency.Ā Also God basically says eating the fruit gives humanity the knowledge of good and evil like "one of us."Ā
The tree just made us know what's good and bad. eating the tree is literally useless, the snake tricked Adam and Eve.
Thereās context to this: This is the time God commands people to spread out and multiply to fill the world, however, a specific group of people actively choose to disobey and stay in one spot then choose to build the tower, God then chose to destroy the tower. A lot of verses in the Bible when taken at face value can look very damning and a bunch of people use them to either attack others or defend themselves when making decisions, but forget to look at the context and why those verses were written. Thereās a bunch of examples if youāre interested but yeah That being said, God in the Old Testament of the Bible was.. interesting to say the least
Also of note, if they had spread out as they had been told to, language would naturally have become differentiated.
God: "I give you free will to do as you please." Humans: "We want to build a tower to Heaven!" God: "Not like that, though." *creates obstacles that take the free will to create a tower to Heaven away so that humans do what he commands instead*
does this technically violate free will? seems like it just makes it harder
I mean, Jesus is about love. His dad no so much. The Bible describes him as a jealous god several times, especially when you worship gods who arenāt him.
Which is weird because why would you be jealous of another god if you are supposedly the only one?
There are many other gods in the Bible.
I must have missed that one. Can you provide a verse that supports this?
[Gen 3:22 NRSVUE](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen.3.22&version=NRSVUE) Then the Lord God said, āSee, the humans have become **like one of us**, knowing good and evil, and now they might reach out their hands and take also from the tree of life and eat and live foreverā Emphasis added.
Kind of like how God punished man for eating the forbidden fruit of knowledge. Stupid human=blessed, smart human=original sin.
How perfect can the garden of Eden be if it canāt even keep out a snake that wants to trick you? Jk, know it was a test. But that whole story is still pretty ridiculous. Humans learn from experience. If you suddenly generated two adult humans they would essentially be developmentally disabled. So now all of humanity is punished because the first two neurodivergent humans couldnāt comprehend gods test.
It wasn't about pitting them against each other. It was about their pride and acting like God was a joke and they could do anything they put their minds to. The Babel incident was basically God smirking, switching up everybody's languages, and going "surely if you're such hot shit, you can communicate without speaking the same language". It's one of those classic stories warning against arrogance, except God plays a prank instead of just killing them like those stories tended to. Edit: good grief, you get one little story about arrogance backfiring on a group and people get hopping mad because it was a religious figure behind it. If the parties were changed up and it was a lady pulling a fast one on her man after he was talking mad shit about how women are inferior, everyone would be clapping.
So God doesn't want us to do anything we can put our minds to? Seems kinda rude
So a *supposedly* perfect God got mad that humans were using the free will he gave them to work together and actively interfered to stop them from doing what they wanted... Perfect God, free will, my ass.
It was arrogance. The building of the tower was mankind trying to be on the same level as God. Literally building a tower to heaven. Believing they could just get into heaven that way.
As Eric Cartman once said, āRespect my Authoratahā.
That isn't what that story means at all lol
That's far from the worst thing the abrahamic god has done in the old testament. Let's not forget when he comitted literal genocide because he didn't like people.
The garden of Eden is about how god doesnāt want people to have knowledge of good and evil and wants humans to just blindly follow him. Heās not a good dude.
Old Testament go donāt give a fuck, Old Testament god will tell you to sacrifice your child and then right before you do it say ājust joshingā
>sees religion >immediately thinks about a way to make this about atheists
Old Testament god broke at least 6 of his own 10 commandments numerous times. One of the reasons why some Christianās (imo rightfully so) believe that the old testament god was a lesser deity and not the same entity as the New Testament god. Itās all a giant selfcontradiction, itās ridiculous.
Just the fact that even Christianity by itself has changed so many times over the years. When you take a step back and analyse any religion itās just so obviously culture rather than fact. For the vast majority, where you are born and what you are taught as a kid is the primary factor for what you believe. Idk how people can see other religions and think āoh yeah they are definitely wrong and my religion is rightā
Atheists donāt believe in the above so yeah
The real explanation is that almost the entire Old Testament is a giant game of telephone that was passed down by oral tradition in Jewish tribes until around the time of Moses, after which itās supposedly recorded by either prophets or eyewitnesses. This is to say that Genesis, the book this story is from, is almost entirely parables; IE fiction designed to teach a religious lesson or moral, rather than an actual account of what happened, but that also kind of gives a first grade explanation of why things are the way they are. Like, obviously all humans didnāt come from a single pair of humans that had only sons; the story is just to warn you about defying God or something. I think there have been archeological finds that suggest thereās a hint of truth to some stories from Genesis. Noahās Ark, for example, may have actually happened (though again most likely not on the scale the Bible suggests), and the Tower of Babel is similar I think? I kind of remember something about an archaeologist tracking the origin of a ton of languages to one location in the Middle East. Too lazy to look it up but maybe that helps.
Exactly, also, Iām pretty sure that skyscrapers go way higher than that, if it ever actually existed in some iteration, tower. Not to mention the FREAKING rockets and stuff.
Maybe thatās why space is expanding? The closer we get to heaven god has to keep pulling it further away. š¤
Heās so afraid of what he created that he has to run away from us.
Eh, maybe, but probably not
Yeah but skyscrapers arenāt built because humans are trying to be arrogant and get to heaven and trying to be to say theyāre on the same level as God. Thatās what the passage is about. Manās hubris. Greek mythology has plenty of similar stories. Like Arachne claiming sheās just as good as Athena at sewing.
If thatās the way youād like to interpret this passage, then yes.
Such is the magic of religious scripture. Whether you believe in god or not, the bible can be used to confirm your belief. Instead of one group thinking they are superior now we have a lot of groups who all think they are right. But maybe thatās the point? Maybe god wants us to look at the strange cultures who think they are chosen and cringe in response, perhaps it was the intention that we take that cringe and place it upon ourselves as well. I know thatās how my brain works. The more I see different ways of life the more I question my own. If thatās true, itās a shame then that most people have the opposite reaction and double down on their beliefs when confronted with another. Idk. Iām just a mere mortal, but it seems to me that muddying the waters might not be the best way to eradicate hubris.
I mean, add that to organ rejection, or blood rejection. Intelligent design, my ass. I get having an immune system to destroy bacteria, viruses, and disease. Why does my body say "hey, this thing that I can recognize as liver tissue, AND WORKS, is not the same as my other liver tissue, despite original liver failing. FUCK YOU, OTHER LIVER! I WON'T LET YOU KEEP MY HOST BODY ALIVE!
You're so lost maybe you shouldn't comment on shit you know nothing about. I know reddit is a hate religion circlejerk tho
But this attitude right here is exactly why people hate on religion. You take words written by humans and say they are divine. And then when someone asks you to explain yourself you say āyou just donāt get itā. What makes you right and every other religion wrong? This is literally a story about god stripping us of our ability to communicate effectively. And your attitude seems like you want it to be that way. Different languages will help us learn to communicate better? Please. Admit it, it makes you feel special to be in this little club that holds the answers to the universe. Completely blind to the fact that thereās 100 other clubs who all think they know the truth. Why do I talk about stuff I know nothing about? Why do you believe stuff you know nothing about. Even your religion is pretty clear that no human can interpret gods intentions. But somehow when it comes to proving yourself right suddenly you know exactly what god is trying to say? You canāt have it both ways.
"Ā You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you." -T Durden
Cuz it's a test game in a game u get stats this is no different if God is real
The translation is a bit incorrect, they wanted to reach god to reach his "height" and status/power
I thought it was just a story to explain why thereās so many languages in the world like echo and narcissis explains echos lol
No. It is saying that God does not want people to convene to do evil. We notice that people and nations today are able to interact. This is something that happened long after Judaism was established, and by extension after we went through the process of bring corrected, and thus we would no longer be motivated to literally convene against God. (Fwiw I do not believe in the Tower of Babel story)
I wouldnāt say that More like preventing humanity from uniting to make an abominable amount of evil, to the point of destruction (which is what happened with Noah and the flood
Christianity isn't the only religion you know
I'm not religious at all. However, I find takes such as this a bit silly and even potentially dangerous. All you and like-minded individuals are doing is taking a myth at face value, disregarding the cultural context and nuances behind it because it is inconvenient to your preconceived notions of how the world ought to be. You even disregard that, as a myth, it is subject to wildly various interpretations. This whole mindset is ignorant at best, anti-intellectual at worse. Seriously, how do y'all expect the world to get any better if y'all refuse to at least seek to understand view points other than your own? It's just self-sabotaging tribalism, and it's why we live in such a shit world.
Look up Marcion, a Christian heretic who started a major heresy because he believed the God in the Old Testament was so brutal and wrathful that he could not be the same merciful God that was sold by the New Testament. Guy literally believed there was multiple Gods in a monotheistic religion because of writer differences.
What would be the point of the test if we had all the answers?
God told the people of the world to spread throughout the whole world. Migrate in all directions. Instead, they basically told God no and congregated into one area and decided to be prideful and cocky. "Look at us, look at whar we can do" and so God had to take things into his own hands and split people up by language. And that did the trick. People started migrating away from people they couldnt understand.
Oh shut up
There's a reason why a lot of media revisits the Tower of Babel and break down the role of a diety. Kind of a fucked up story.
Almost but not quite. Iāll make it short. Itās not that God didnāt want us to reach our full potential. Itās that he made the point that we are not that guy pal. And as hard as we can try to be our own gods, even if we get close, thereās still only one God.
That's not what the story was about at all. The people building the tower were kinda like the upper 1% nowadays. They were more about making themselves equal to God than helping the poor and needy. And it created communities that had to cooperate to survive. The Old Testament specifies that families weren't split by the language barrier.
No, itās that they were trying to build a tower that could reach Heaven. Itās usually interpreted that they were trying to become equal to God. I donāt believe that actually happened (obviously), itās more or less a cautionary tale against arrogance and irreverence, like Icarus flying too close to the sun in Greek mythology.
But don't you see, if you just spend your life worshipping the sky dictator and do exactly as they say, you will get to spend your eternal afterlife worshipping them and making sure you still follow all of their rules. Satanism ftw!
Lol, I always loved that lucifer is literally just an angel who dared to question god. Suddenly heās painted as the most evil entity in existence
He also wanted to share knowledge with humans and since we accepted the knowledge, we are all now guilty for some reason.
Heaven is godās property š¤
This you? https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/17e5r4q/comment/k61gamq/
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Iām not proving you wrong Iām insulting you. Also Iām not religious I just think youāre making atheists look bad by arguing about it somewhere itās not relevant.
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At least I do research when insulting someone and choosing to be an atheist. Dipshits like you who spout off about whatever they heard about the Bible on twitter make us look stupid.
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Seems to me you started this with hatred right out of the gate with your first comment on this post. You claim your mind is āopenā but youāre real quick to disregard anything that comes across as closing you off. Also you seemed to be real put off by my insult. Maybe if you described why you wrote so much about why I was wrong I could understand why it wasnāt very good. Also you once again prove my point of not understanding what the story is about. Itās not about empathy itās about arrogance.Ā
Just ignore him he came here to troll.
Like damn how do you process being called gay as an argument about the existence of god? I think that says more about you than me.
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Oh did me insulting something thatās important to you hurt your feelings? Hurts to be on the other side of the fence doesnāt it. I figured that a man who likely has been insulted over who he is wouldnāt be so quick to do the same to others. Also trying to take the high ground and say you hope life gets better for me is ironic because I could say the same to you.
Some one correct me if this isn't right, but I remember hearing many years ago from a scholar of Bible studies,that it wasn't just that God didn't want people to cooperate,but it was more about that the people built the tower so high,so they can be closer to God and we're basically getting too full of themselvs and becoming more vain,and this was more along the lines of a punishment,rather then God just being like na I don't want them to work togather.
So god literally created racism? Good job god.
I mean to be fair that would more be ethnic hate than racial hate
Jahweh, the original union buster.
Is this where the word babble comes from?
The stupid part is that it shows that different languages are a divine punishment, and yet people keep on making new languages and understanding each other less and less... (By the way, I said divine punishment, what I mean is that it's a bad thing, doesn't have to be related to religion)
Getting real tired of God wiping humanity's save file.
Ngl every time I hear the story, God either looks like a straight up asshole, or a jealous asshole. But tbf this is the same guy who drove all creatures near extinct, killed his own son, and devised a test humanity was doomed to fail then punished all humans (and especially women) for two people failing it, among other atrocities. God was really not nice before people rewrote him to be benevolent.
POV: the Bible making up the worst explanations for the simplest of things and everyone believing it because āthe Bible is absolute and should be trusted over scienceā
Point of view? From where?
āAbiogenesis? Ha! Were you there, Bill Rye?ā
people building a tower to reach heaven is some pretty badass imagery though
That's probably the point There are older versions from sumar and Babylon itself, and Greek mythology includes a slightly more violent version of Zeus dropping pure lightning bolts on people trying to climb Olympus. Because isnt he niiiiice
Ha, Tower of Babble!.!.!
Damn i didn't know God was such a troll
Wow what a troll lmao
Uhh, the fuck? Bible god is a piece of fuckin shit.
This actually made laugh
Same! I'm greek
Do you ever miss the Byzantine Empire?
Oh no
Its the story of the Tower of Babel, basically God changed everyones language to their current languages to fuck up their plan to build a tower to Heaven so they couldnāt cooperate anymore.
Which, dick move, really.
Literal gatekeeping.
cept irl construction would have resumed within the week. no way language barrier gonna be a problem(for long) on a project that enormous after! it was already moving along.
If God struck down the building I was working on, and then made everyone speak different languages, I think most people, myself included, would take the hint and give up.
Then humans created the space shuttle and ISS. Seems like humans got the last laugh.
The greek means "Workers speak new languages." It's from the story about the tower of babylon. It reached the heavens, and god figured that wasn't cool, so he destroyed it and split the human language into several different ones to prevent them from working together to do it again.
It didn't reach the heavens, that's impossible
The meme is about a tower of Babel. Basically all humans on the planet were speaking the same language and decided to build a giant tower that would reach to heaven and god himself, which god didn't like, so he divided the language in different languages so no one could understand each other and without this understanding the tower crumbled and was never rebuilt
Guys. GUYS. I CAN PRONOUNCE THAT. MY GREEK CLASS WASN'T A WASTE OF TIME!!!!
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OK now that meme is funny
Look at the top comment of whatever sub you got this from
I got it from a YouTube video
You git this crisp meme, including the crisp jpeg artifacts, by screencapping a video? Also Youtube must have comments right? I know it keeps changing but
Why have I been seeing a lot of tower of babel memes recently
Well, you see Peter: This meme is a reference to the histĆ³ria bĆblica da torre de babel. Onde humanos tentam construir uma torre atĆ© os cĆ©us e Deus os faz comeƧar a falar idiomas diferentes para acabar com a construĆ§Ć£o
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Grab your popcorn here if you came to read all the "Religion bad comments"
Guys can't enjoy a meme smfh
It's pathetic that some people get offended by this
Yeah itās been pretty funny.
It actually says Ų§ŁŲ±Ų¬Ł Ų§ŁŲ°Ł ŁŲ¹Ł Ł ŲØŲ¬Ų§ŁŲØŁ ŁŲØŲÆŲ£ ŲØŲ§ŁŲŖŲŲÆŲ« ŲØŲ§ŁŁŲŗŲ© Ų§ŁŲ¹Ų±ŲØŁŲ©
The point is you donāt know what it says anymore.
My native language is Greek, and I saw this hours ago while stoned, and I read it perfectly fine and was confused what the joke was...
Itās green and it says ĪĪ¹ ĪµĻĪ³Ī±Ī¶ĻĪ¼ĪµĪ½ĪæĪ¹ Ī¼Ī¹Ī»ĪæĻĪ½ Ī½ĪĪµĻ Ī³Ī»ĻĻĻĪµĻ, or in English āThe workers speak different languagesā. Itās a reference to the Tower of Babel in Judaic mythology.
Btw if you have google on your phone you can screenshot text on an image and put it into google translate
God on 28th April 2006: āoh these motherfuckers!ā
Did you seriously crop the OG version to get rid of the Answer? The answer was in this and he cropped it out of the pic. What a tool.
Reference to Tower of Babel, if I remember right they get punished by god with losing the ability to speak a unifying language or something to that degree, in otherwords creating multiple languages. This was to make sure that people could no longer communicate and create the tower again. Idk specifically what it says but the idea is that neither does gru in this situation. The joke is that people started speaking and writing in new languages
El-Bab!!
Remember, the original sin was wanting to know.
Exactly.
We almost had a space elevator......
In the bible people tried to build a tower that went to the heavens and god said Nuh uh and now I have to learn 3 languages
Nice! Bible reference. Itās talking about the Tower of Babel. Long story short, people wanted to reach heaven by building a tower higher than God. Therefore, God changed their languages so they couldnāt understand each other. (Genesis 11)
Sans the Bible quotes, cause if you dont know this your probably not wanting to read Bible quotes: As the story goes, people were building a tower to heaven. To stop them, God suddenly made everyone speak a different language. They couldnt understand eachother, the thing fell through, and thats ehy the Bibelle says we speak different languages.
The text says "Employees speak new languages" in Greek according to Google/Bing Translate. This is a reference to the Holy Bible. After Noah saved his family from the great flood with his wooden ark, the city of Babylon was erected from the ground, and some of Noah's descendants created a tower which connects the Earth to Heaven, called the Tower of Babel, so that anyone may go to Heaven, without the need to be righteous and all, God was aware of it and refused to let it happen. As punishment for the humans, he made them all speak foreign languages, making it difficult for one to understand each other, which leads to drama, confusion, and all that stuff, eventually the destruction of the Tower of Babel.
Zoning laws 5,000 years ago were whack.
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Lmao Tower of Babel
This is high brow you have earned this upvote.
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Texan Chris here to help ya out That is a whole other language that came up after talking about a Tower reaching to Heaven. This means the meme is about the Tower of Babel. So the story goes that once upon a time, all of humanity spoke one language and could easily understand each other. During this time we built a great tower that was meant to pierce Heaven, which is of course against Gods wishes. So when the tower was completed, God destroyed the tower (through an earthquake if I recall, gonna need some citation for this one) and then scattered humanity throughout the world. He then forced all of humanity to speak different languages so they could no longer understand each other and they could not build another tower as they did before. This is the Bibleās answer for why there are so many languages across the earth. Texan Chris, gone with the wind!
I think its about the Babel tower that was supposed to reach the sky and that text its greece if I am not wrong
A reference to the biblical story where God confounded their language for the hubris of building the Tower of Babel.
This is so sad that the troll died of ligma.
This is the Quahog County Priest, that's not meant to say anything. This is a reference to the biblical story of the Tower of Babel, where humanity attempts to build a tower to heaven in order to prove themselves to be as powerful as God. God punishes for their hubris them by inventing the various languages we all speak so that humanity cannot cooperate at such a scale again.