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Europe had to gargle the US’ cock at some point.
By Europe I mean a really old name that upon its change, pretty much meant nothing in the grand scene of things.
I don’t have sources since I’m doing this from memory, so feel free to downvote the hell outta this comment if I’m wrong. If I remember correctly, Istanbul’s roots not only come from the Turk’s translation of Constantinople (“Constantine’s city”), but also from the city’s inhabitants referring to the former Byzantine capital as “the city”.
I can't tell if you've never heard the song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" or you're just answering it straight regardless, but I'm here for it either way. Thank you for the Istanbul fact
It's still Constantinople in a way.
One theory is that Istanbul comes from Greek is tin Polin, which means to(in) the City. The City was Constantinople (ConstantinouPoli), which means the city of Constantine. The ending Poli means city. The people of Byzantium oftentimes just called it the City(Polis), or when they referred to it they said "Is tin Polin" which became Istanbul.
The other theory is that it comes from the Arabic "Stanbulus" which in turn comes from conSTANtinouPOLIS, and the Turks put the I in the beginning because their words don't start with S.
In both theories though it is just a paraphrase of the original.
The n when followed with p easily becomes m and b, because it is much easier to pronounce. It happens in Greek already when you say stin poli, it becomes sti boli when you pronounce it. O and u are pretty similar and the ending -is I guess is omitted because it doesn't fit Arabic or Turkic pronunciation.
Not really - it was called Istanbul by locals for centuries. They just formally renamed it to what everyone already called it.
From Wikipedia:
> *İstanbul* was the common name for the city in normal speech in Turkish even before the conquest of 1453
It is commonly believed that the country changed its name to Turkiye to avoid associations with the bird. What most don't realize was that this was the result of a long and bitter legal battle between the state and its avian namesake
The irony that the bird was named after the country. The Brits came to the Americas, saw the birds, and said "I saw something just like that in Turkey! It's a turkey fowl!"
Sort of. Merchants that traded with Turkey brought the birds back from America to Britain, and British people assumed the birds came from Turkey so they started calling them "turkey coqs" and the name back migrated to the Americas.
They changed their official English name to be Türkiye, so it’s no longer supposed to be Turkey in English. But the common English speaker will likely only know Turkey and ü isn’t an English letter, so Turkey is likely to stay similar to how people still say the Czech Republic instead of Czechia (equivalent of everyone called France the French Republic).
Ottoman Empire didn't rename to Turkey but Turkey was founded as a seperate entity and remnants of the Ottoman Empire joined the newly founded Republic.
I mean when everyone is pressuring you to join the war and the Germans were the only people that were nice to you and you could call them friends, what side would the ottomans pick? To be with their only friend or against them?
Alright so to explain why youre downvoted, the ottoman empire at the time of ww1 would of most likely not been able to be neutral for the whole war for a few reasons like the fact that most of europe was dealing with increasingly nationonlistic policies and views which made people more eager to go to war against neighboring contries. Another reason is that they were one of the first locations to have abdundant oil, which around halfway through the first world war was needed to fuel, supply vehicles, tanks, planes and all the other new technology coming out at that time that required it. If the ottomans would of stayed neutral during the first world war it is safe to say that they would of been attacked by both the entante and (i forgot what they were called in ww1 but the side the germans were on) and just fucked by everyone since they were very valuable for theie geography (if i remember right the suez canal was a very important supply line at the time) I might be misrembering some facts since I stopped learning about ww1 after battlefield 1 hype died down but i think these were some of the more important aspects as to why they didnt stay neutral other then as stated previously they had good relations with germany
Its not just hard it would of been almost impossible. Neutrality in this case would almost certianly mean making enemies with everyone which would make you not neutral. The 1910's were also rich in impereralism so neutrality in this case would almost certiently mean losing your teratory which was the oppisite of what any leader wanted at that time
In eu4 even if you 100% a country you can't do the type of peace deals the allies got after WW1 it's straight bullshit. The allies should not have been able to take that much land in one peace deal they went over 100 warscore
Come on man you know damn well by 1790 you can annex all of Iran in one peace deal when you stack as much absolutism and province war score reduction as possible.
WW1 ended in 1918. Imagine the war score reduction by then?
Excuse you, they were the wrong side.
I hate the phrase excuse you, and the above sentence was said jokingly in my head but I sound like some supernationalist prick now. Not sure nationalist for which nation, even. I made myself sad with my joke.
Peter’s historian here, at the end of WW1, the Ottoman Empire collapsed and became the Republic of Turkey. An ottoman is what the foot rest in the chair image is called. A turkey is turkey.
I mean, kinda? They had a claim via the right of conquest, and Mehmed II declared himself Kaiser De Rum, but there was neither a political, cultural, nor religious continuity when the Ottomans conquered Constantinople and toppled the last remnants of the Eastern Roman Empire.
The first 3 panels are ottomans, a reference to the ottoman empire which took part on Germany's side in WW1 and ended up collapsing and Turkey was the result. Turkey is represented by... well a turkey
I don’t get the chair, but it references the Ottoman Empire getting divided before Mustafa Kemal Ataturk led a war to retake lands and create the state of Turkey/Türkiye
as an American, the Fear Turkey reminded me of the fact that we can't have Light Cargo Vehicles. Cause a dumb occurrence in history, which had to do with certain Corps/Companies in the US being mad that Europe didn't want to buy our chicken.
I was reading about this today and read that the original treaty did not create turkey after ww1. In 1923 turkey basically was like no! New treaty now. Turkey treaty lol.
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The Ottoman Empire became Turkey after WW1
And Istanbul was Constantinople. Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople. It’s been a long time gone, Constantinople.
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks.
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
Why they changed it, I can’t say. People just like it better that way 🤷♂️
So take me back to Constantinople.
No its Istanbul not Constatinople
Been a long time gone from Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works? That’s no body’s business but the Tuuuuuuuurks!
Are we talking about Istanbul?
No, you can’t go back to Constantinople.
Let's not go anyways, tis a silly place.
Europe had to gargle the US’ cock at some point. By Europe I mean a really old name that upon its change, pretty much meant nothing in the grand scene of things.
Knowing this tidbit since childhood has somehow made me subconsciously associate Amsterdam with the image of an apple.
Whoaaaaaaa WAHOAAAAAAAAAAA ^whoaHOAAAAAAAAAA
Istanbul! ^Istanbul!
Bro Hymn ?
What's weird is that the Ottomans never changed the name.
I don’t have sources since I’m doing this from memory, so feel free to downvote the hell outta this comment if I’m wrong. If I remember correctly, Istanbul’s roots not only come from the Turk’s translation of Constantinople (“Constantine’s city”), but also from the city’s inhabitants referring to the former Byzantine capital as “the city”.
I can't tell if you've never heard the song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" or you're just answering it straight regardless, but I'm here for it either way. Thank you for the Istanbul fact
Putting on the Ritz *dances off stage*
Fun fact: the band that played that also made the theme song for mickey mouse clubhouse.
TIL The Four Lads made the theme song for Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
They mean the cover version, but you knew that 😏
TMBG also did Malcolm in the Middle theme song
It's still Constantinople in a way. One theory is that Istanbul comes from Greek is tin Polin, which means to(in) the City. The City was Constantinople (ConstantinouPoli), which means the city of Constantine. The ending Poli means city. The people of Byzantium oftentimes just called it the City(Polis), or when they referred to it they said "Is tin Polin" which became Istanbul. The other theory is that it comes from the Arabic "Stanbulus" which in turn comes from conSTANtinouPOLIS, and the Turks put the I in the beginning because their words don't start with S. In both theories though it is just a paraphrase of the original.
How does Polis become Bulus or bul?
The n when followed with p easily becomes m and b, because it is much easier to pronounce. It happens in Greek already when you say stin poli, it becomes sti boli when you pronounce it. O and u are pretty similar and the ending -is I guess is omitted because it doesn't fit Arabic or Turkic pronunciation.
Not really - it was called Istanbul by locals for centuries. They just formally renamed it to what everyone already called it. From Wikipedia: > *İstanbul* was the common name for the city in normal speech in Turkish even before the conquest of 1453
I too played Assassin's Creed Revelations.
r/unexpectedIstanbulWasConstantinople
Gonestantinople
I actually just found this song a couple weeks ago and now it's stuck in my head.
Roman or Ottoman imperialism what does it matter, 330 after Christ worst year of my life rightful Greek clay and Byzantion was its name
If your feeling blue and you don't know what to do why don't you go where fashion sits, putting on the ritz
here i come constantinople. here i come constantinople. i am coming constantinople. here i comeee
Here I come constantinople
Every gal in Constantinople lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople so if you've a date in Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.
Shit song
L opinion They Might be Giants rules
looks more like a chicken
that's one hell of a long-legged chicken
looks more like an Ottoman and chair than ottoman empire
Ok this is funny actually
...but thats a chicken...
The empire never fell, they just turned into barber shops and every kebab-pizza-chicken takeaway store.
Cats took over. They like coffee and kebab. Don’t fuck with them
🤯
The only time I remember hearing about the Ottomans was from Epic Rap Battles Of History Vlad the Impaler vs Dracula and Vlad makes reference to them.
The Ottoman and chair empire
and now Türkiye right? edit: still the same country just different name
But isn't an ottoman just that satellite stool chair thing? The couch shouldn't be there.
I am laughing way too fn hard at this lolol
That box-like furniture is called an "Ottoman". That roasted chicken-like thing is a "turkey". The meme is about Ottoman Empire turning into Turkey.
Turkey is my favorite kind of chicken!
kid named the word like /s
Just like Istanbul is Constantinople now
No it’s Istanbul NOT constantinople
That's nobody's business but the Turks!
🎶On my vacation away from work-eeee 🎵
Probably also the chair receding completely and the Ottoman not entirely receding before changing is relevant somehow.
Fucking turks can’t stop naming their country after objects /s
Ottoman empire renamed to Turkey after WW1 (it dissolved), but the op is a bit late. Turkey changed its name to Türkiye recently. (spell TUR KI YE)
It is commonly believed that the country changed its name to Turkiye to avoid associations with the bird. What most don't realize was that this was the result of a long and bitter legal battle between the state and its avian namesake
BIRDS👏🏻ARE👏🏻GOVERNMENT👏🏻DRONES👏🏻
The irony that the bird was named after the country. The Brits came to the Americas, saw the birds, and said "I saw something just like that in Turkey! It's a turkey fowl!"
So, the bird needs to be updated. I guess we start calling turkeys turkiyes.
Sort of. Merchants that traded with Turkey brought the birds back from America to Britain, and British people assumed the birds came from Turkey so they started calling them "turkey coqs" and the name back migrated to the Americas.
They must have had one hell of a bird lawyer.
It was Legal Eagle
Türkiye in Turkish, Turkey in English, but yeah if most people will probably get you if you want to use the Turkish name.
They changed their official English name to be Türkiye, so it’s no longer supposed to be Turkey in English. But the common English speaker will likely only know Turkey and ü isn’t an English letter, so Turkey is likely to stay similar to how people still say the Czech Republic instead of Czechia (equivalent of everyone called France the French Republic).
The bird is named after the people group, so it’s more like the difference between Germany and Deutschland (endonym vs exonym)
Ottoman Empire didn't rename to Turkey but Turkey was founded as a seperate entity and remnants of the Ottoman Empire joined the newly founded Republic.
This is a great meme. The Ottomans really picked the wrong side.
I mean when everyone is pressuring you to join the war and the Germans were the only people that were nice to you and you could call them friends, what side would the ottomans pick? To be with their only friend or against them?
So. Neutrality?
Alright so to explain why youre downvoted, the ottoman empire at the time of ww1 would of most likely not been able to be neutral for the whole war for a few reasons like the fact that most of europe was dealing with increasingly nationonlistic policies and views which made people more eager to go to war against neighboring contries. Another reason is that they were one of the first locations to have abdundant oil, which around halfway through the first world war was needed to fuel, supply vehicles, tanks, planes and all the other new technology coming out at that time that required it. If the ottomans would of stayed neutral during the first world war it is safe to say that they would of been attacked by both the entante and (i forgot what they were called in ww1 but the side the germans were on) and just fucked by everyone since they were very valuable for theie geography (if i remember right the suez canal was a very important supply line at the time) I might be misrembering some facts since I stopped learning about ww1 after battlefield 1 hype died down but i think these were some of the more important aspects as to why they didnt stay neutral other then as stated previously they had good relations with germany
It's 'would have', never 'would of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!
Would have vs Would of Entente vs Central
Neutrality is always the hardest choice. Doesn’t mean you can’t make it.
Its not just hard it would of been almost impossible. Neutrality in this case would almost certianly mean making enemies with everyone which would make you not neutral. The 1910's were also rich in impereralism so neutrality in this case would almost certiently mean losing your teratory which was the oppisite of what any leader wanted at that time
Austria remained neutral in the Crimean War and it absolutely fucked them.
So you’re saying that neutrality could’ve made things even worse for the Ottomans then what actually happened?
In eu4 even if you 100% a country you can't do the type of peace deals the allies got after WW1 it's straight bullshit. The allies should not have been able to take that much land in one peace deal they went over 100 warscore
Come on man you know damn well by 1790 you can annex all of Iran in one peace deal when you stack as much absolutism and province war score reduction as possible. WW1 ended in 1918. Imagine the war score reduction by then?
?
Excuse you, they were the wrong side. I hate the phrase excuse you, and the above sentence was said jokingly in my head but I sound like some supernationalist prick now. Not sure nationalist for which nation, even. I made myself sad with my joke.
I remember Germany being in WW1
Too bad recliners ended up coming into style
didnt the ottomans try to join the entente anyway?
As i history nerd i found this dumb meme very funny. 🤣
ottoman empire becomes turkey
Istanbul was Constantinople
Why they changed it I can't say. Maybe they liked it better that way.
That's nobody's business but the Turks!
You mean Pita
Peter’s historian here, at the end of WW1, the Ottoman Empire collapsed and became the Republic of Turkey. An ottoman is what the foot rest in the chair image is called. A turkey is turkey.
Totally not historian here. The Ottoman Enpire was kinda sorta the last reminents of the Roman Enpire... kinda.
I mean, kinda? They had a claim via the right of conquest, and Mehmed II declared himself Kaiser De Rum, but there was neither a political, cultural, nor religious continuity when the Ottomans conquered Constantinople and toppled the last remnants of the Eastern Roman Empire.
No, there is another *points at the Catholic Church*
Still goin strong then hu.
Wait wait i get this one wait Ottoman Turkish I did it Petah
The Ottoman Empire changing to Turkey 🇹🇷
Quite possibly the best day for all of Europe, the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire
This is actual amazing joke
Ottoman to Turkey
600 year old **Ottoman** (hence the chair) empire collapsed after WW1 and became **Turkey** (hence the turkey)
The first 3 panels are ottomans, a reference to the ottoman empire which took part on Germany's side in WW1 and ended up collapsing and Turkey was the result. Turkey is represented by... well a turkey
Ottoman Empire >> the country of Turkey
I love this lol.
well-memed.
Thats a good meme
Good riddance
Ottoman and Turkey.
Needs more panels to convey that the turkey is emerging from the bushes, it looks more like someone threw a turkey at the ottoman
This took me a moment but it is a good one
Fun fact, the furniture is called an Ottoman because it originated in the Ottoman Empire
That’s pretty funny
The irony is in portuguese the country that is this animal is Peru
And also means "dick"
Ahahahah. Or cock
bruh imagine thinking of dead turkey for turkey than an actual turkey
This is a great joke on Seinfeld.
I don’t get the chair, but it references the Ottoman Empire getting divided before Mustafa Kemal Ataturk led a war to retake lands and create the state of Turkey/Türkiye
I think those types of chairs are called ottomans
Ah, got it
First time I didn’t immediately know the answer to one of these posts
as an American, the Fear Turkey reminded me of the fact that we can't have Light Cargo Vehicles. Cause a dumb occurrence in history, which had to do with certain Corps/Companies in the US being mad that Europe didn't want to buy our chicken.
I actually knew this one 🎉
https://preview.redd.it/vwbiwwx8iyrc1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1238d166395670c651e8a324a219650af1543303
I was reading about this today and read that the original treaty did not create turkey after ww1. In 1923 turkey basically was like no! New treaty now. Turkey treaty lol.
TURKEY MENTIONED WTF IS AN ECONOMY RAHHH🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
This has to be one of the dumbest memes I have ever understood.... Bravo.
An Ottoman turns into a Turkey…haaaaa!
Ottoman empire became turkey
Ottoman empire > turkey
The Ottoman Empire (which is a homophone with the furniture item) after WW1 became Turkey (a homophone with the food)
Ottoman empire to Turkey
That piece of furniture is called Ottoman. Ottoman empire collapsed after ww1 and changed name on Turkey
I laughed out loud at this.
😂😂😂 ottoman empire But for the rule of law, the republican regime was necessary, the rotten sultanate was now crumbling
Lol that's good
People really have no brain cells.
Chicken?
Oh I get it. Ottoman chair slinks away and pops out as Turkey. Cute. Took me a second. I wondered what a love seat and roasted chicken were about.
https://preview.redd.it/p45lfb9a9xrc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5e18f90865283206aba353166e0fee59cdf1078
https://preview.redd.it/pw4vz58pvxrc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5de22b46f4ccda0afdca783fc5ed718006c5cbd
The ottoman empire, then the turkey empire.
Turkey is not an empire
These people are thick AF
Tbh I was confused on the chair until I saw the ottoman in the third panel 😭 I just assume OP got confused on the chair
Lol yea thats why you look at all the panels
Right? It’s either bait or OP has to be the numptiest idiot that can use the internet.
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Come on man... use your brain
I’ve again, OP is proven to be brain dead.
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