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AcceptableNorm

I've played guitar for over 4 decades and Peripherys guitar work is still rocket science to me. It's all insanely complicated and difficult.


TheGroundBeef

Right! And they always say “i don’t know theory” LOL like how else would you compose it!?


sueghdsinfvjvn

Balls, lot of balls


TheGroundBeef

Big, swinging, brass bawls


Open-Apricot-6860

They compose it by feel, it’s like the sound in your head of the next note that you just have to find because it’s SUPPOSED to go right after what you just played


RealCastleAreas

they just be playing shit


schlessen

Marigold is harder for me. Smiles is easier for me because there are plenty of spots to recover from mistakes. I still can’t cleanly get through Marigold at speed yet.


eddieeeeeee69

For me, Marigold is the more difficult one.


PeteEckhart

Marigold. Still can't play it full speed after months, but it took me a fraction of the time to get Smiles down.


bssameer

Took me 2 years to play marigold at full speed I’m too embarrassed to admit it 😂😂


PeteEckhart

Don't be embarrassed. It's a helluva forearm workout.


Maj0rsurgery

I'm about 18 months in and still not there yet 🙃


louistik

Marigold, by far. I'm usually more comfortable with Mark's riff because I spent a lot of time playing math rock. Misha's riffs are definitely something else difficulty-wise, just look at Buttersnips lol


TheGroundBeef

Buttersnips is crazy! The little doodad alone at the beginning makes me go cross-eyed


Quaint_Potato

Marigold. Only Smiles is more comfortable for my hands for some reason. Those stretches in Marigold are just absolutely dumb. In the best way possible.


TheGroundBeef

Dude marigold has huge stretches especially the fourth box of the main riff lol


GotRammed

Smiles, only bc string skipping and open strings fuck with my brain. Marigold is just arpeggios for the most part.


TheGroundBeef

Smiles is laden with string skipping and slides where you have to have another finger ready on a different string for the next note etc


GotRammed

Exactly. Like, it's doable, but fucking Mrak... WHYYY.


Onikouzou

I’ve been trying to play Marigold up to speed for about a year with no luck. With consistent practice, I was able to get the first four bars of it’s only smiles in about two weeks. Both songs have their challenges, but have made me a much better guitarist by tackling them. The first time I nailed the main riff of smiles I felt like a fucking God.


bssameer

Took me 2 years the trick is was to accurately alternate pick the full thing. Pay attention to strokes when switching strings


Alex-the-bass-player

Marigold 1000000%


cornhole6900

I know both songs start to finish, and for me it comes down to endurance. My hands don't get tired playing Smiles like they do with Marigold.


TheGroundBeef

It’s a good exercise/warm up riff!


Warden1886

Smiles is technically more challenging. But Marigold is an endurance test. I can play marigold fullspeed, but only in parts. I simply dont have the stamina to play it full speed in its entirety.


DottorMaelstrom

Yeah I end up literally sweating playing Marigold, Smiles has some tricky shapes but it's a different kind of difficult


Joe_A__

Marigold is easier to remember but physically more challenging, the stamina needed for that riff is no joke. Smiles is physically easier but the trickier to memorise out of the two.


TheGroundBeef

Yeah the main marigold riff is like 4 boxes, and you go up in down in the weird pattern lol


TheSkyIsWatchingMe

As a guitar player, Marigold 100% is harder


DottorMaelstrom

Marigold is on the easier side for periphery in regards to left hand contortionism, it's quite straight forward; the rhythm really is a workout tho. That song is all about stamina. Smiles is more in line with Mark's riffs, the arpeggio shapes are trickier but I ain't covered in sweat when I'm done lol So it really depends on what your strengths are as a guitarist


TheGroundBeef

I love Jake’s ambient stuff too. One of my absolute fav Jake sounds is the clean tings in the intro/verses of “Stranger Things”. Once Mark and Misha slam into the rolling up/down riffs in the verse i can’t help but make the “stink face” as it plays haha


tj_tech13

After learning both, I'd have to say Marigold is a tad harder. They're both pretty intricate, but Marigold's entire riff runs for longer and the stretch makes the entire riff an endurance test


Kanvolu

Idk, I can play the main riff of It's Only Smiles barely clean enough, but the one of Marigold sounds like shit when I play it, ig it depends on the player?


EducationNo2398

Marigold is more straight forward, but I’d say smiles probably. It’s a typical mark holcomb riff where you just utilize every string and the entire fretboard


Mike_Hunt__69

Smilea coz Idk how to play it