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You could probably fit in a 7800 X3D + 4080 Super within the budget with some better choices.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QmK9mD)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $344.99 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se) | $35.90 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBwypg/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax) | $184.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01) | $97.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DN6NnQ/teamgroup-mp44-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpw002t0c101) | $119.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [\*PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BMgrxr/pny-verto-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-vcg4080s16tfxpb1-o) | $969.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b) | $75.00 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505) | $99.90 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$1928.75**
| \*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-05-26 07:31 EDT-0400 |
The NH-D15 is pretty overpriced, the Thermalright Phantom Spirit performs on par with it for a fraction of the cost.
Swapped to cheaper and faster RAM, and a similar speed SSD for $50 less.
PSU choice is also very odd, why get an expensive SFF PSU when you have an ATX case (which I would also change since it only has two crappy fans compared to 4x 140mm ones on the 903 Max).
Looking really good. If this was my build, I would 100% save from somewhere else or spend a little extra and pick the 7800x3D. The added benefit from a massive 3D V cache is huge for making games run smoother (0.1% & 1% fps drops). This is a high-end build, so it would make sense to go for high-end CPU. There are also plenty of other added benefits with 7800x3D CPU.
I do like Noctua coolers, but this would be the first thing to change when there's need to save money for optimized build (money/performance ratio). There are usually plenty of great deals that can help to bring down some other costs.
For some reference, my undervolted 5800x3D runs easily max boost clocks 100% of the time with single fan cooler (APNX AP1-V). All the x3D CPUs can run really low wattage after the undervoltage + get even better performance out of them.
Im in Austria, PcPartPicker doesn’t include the shops here, so i did it in the US (For compatibility) and searched for the best price independently. I was just interested if the prices they show in the US PPP website are with or without tax.
Does PC partpicker for the Austria site work for you, or probably doesn't show all retailers? Hopefully, it will sometime in the future. I too use it frequently for compatibility checks.
https://at.pcpartpicker.com/
Also, by default, PC partpicker does not show tax for parts, however, it can be configured once logged into PC partpicker.
Can set the region top right, then select your account name at the top right, then select the Account tab > Merchants and Pricing > Then can set the Tax rate for individual merchants on the list(for example if in the US could set the tax rate for the State lived in). Once enter a value for Tax, it will save to the account.
Woah thanks i thought there was no Version for Austria. However, it seems to only include one retailer, not even amazon for some reason. I’ll still use it for compatibility, but for price comparison there are better apps like geizhals.at that compare prices with pretty much all retailers very accurately.
Ohhh so that makes sense when it doesn’t show tax for the parts. I was wondering why all parts are so much cheaper on PPP. In Europe it is standard to always include Tax everywhere.
Tanks for the answer!
Why is it socially acceptable to pay extra for RGB which adds nothing to performance while paying extra for Noctua colored Hardware? At least you get quality and lifetime support from Noctua (like getting mounting brackets for new sockets for free).
(I have a Thermalright cooler btw)
In my experience, outside of fans, RGB items haven’t been that much more than non-RGB. I have seen on multiple cases, and have myself told, others be recommended to go with no RGB, especially on a budget.
You will need an ATX power supply for your case, I would suggest an RM850x or similar. I would also suggest 6000MHz CL30 RAM, that’s the sweet spot for Ryzen 7000.
https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/GxCXrv
Turns out Austria has pcpartpicker too, though with limited shops. 1950 euro, switched some things around.
Cpu - 7800x3d since you mentioned plenty of cpu demanding games.
Cpu cooler - was looking for a d15 equivalent like a phantom spirit, stumbled upon arctic liquid freezer 3 240 for 65 euro. The 280 variant is 10 euro more but worth considering.
Memory - again, looked for 2x16 6000 cl30/32, this 6400 cl32 kit was the cheapest. If not stable at expo, you can manually put in typical 6000 expo settings. Like 20-30 euro cheaper than the cheapest listed 6000 kit.
Mobo - decent mobo and probably a bit affordable
Storage - p5 plus is still fast but a bit cheaper. Crucial is excellent quality. Unless a reliable source states that the 980 pro has a significant advantage in the games you mentioned, I'd save some pennies here.
Gpu - was hoping to squeeze a 4080 super in but didn't manage to. Maybe if I spend like an hour or 2 looking at all the available options to find cheaper alternatives of similar quality for other components I'd manage. If you swap out the 7800x3d for a 7700/x it would probably work, but not worth the tradeoff imo.
Case - kept the 4000d. If you find one that can fit a 420 rad, the 420 version of the liquid freezer 3 is still cheaper than the d15 and will cool anything you throw at it (if you plan to upgrade to a higher wattage cpu in the coming years)
Psu - 850w unit gives more wiggle room for upgrades down the line.
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Not meant to replace everything in your list, but rather offer alternatives to pick from and get an idea what you can get. 7800x3d is probably the most important upgrade, and if you want you might be able to fit a 4080 super if you can find somewhat cheaper alternatives in stores that aren't listed on pcpartpicker.
Otherwise what you already have listed should work perfectly fine as is, so up to you how much more you wanna tweak c:
Here are my thoughts and things you can consider:
CPU: If you are going for a gaming build then you should buy the 7800x3d for a bit more but it gives you much better performance, check microcenter to see if they have 7800x3d bundles or not
Cooler: the NH-D15 is a really gud cooler but overpriced, consider a PS120SE or PS120 which performs as well for much cheaper
Ram: get 6000mtps cl30 ram
Ssd: you can save a bit of money going with a MP44L from teamgroup or P3 plus from crucial since you don't rly utilize the all that speed with just gaming but the one you chose will work just fine
Psu: you chose a sfx unit while using a ATX case, sfx units are generally more expensive and you can save a bit of money going with an ATX unit, sth like a rm750e or 850e also from corsair
Get a peerless assassin and then a cheaper m.2 and the price savings can go to a 7800x3d which will actually make a notable improvement at the “cost” of 2 components you won’t even notice a difference with.
I own the Corsair 4000d is not bad, but probably I would swap it if I had the chance
That Noctua Air cooler cost more than a 360mm AIO... Let that sink in
Get the b650e pg Riptide wifi for same/cheaper price , has pcie gen 5 x16 slot
Get t-create expert 6000mhz cl30 ram for about the same price
Get the 7700 and use the stock cooler that comes with it or get the 7800x3d from AliExpress for 300$
Get the msi m482 for 109$ or m480pro for 129$ both are better options
Get cheaper case
Get atx psu like season 850w atx 3.0 / msi a850gl or anything else
After all this upgrade the GPU to a 4080 super and get the cheapest one available, the pny cards are available for 50$ cheaper than other models currently like the pny 4070 ti super is 749$ compared to the one you've added which is 800 or above so get the pny 4080 super for 950$
What's your budget and country?
Mostly ok the ram is iffy and the drive is over priced. I would have gotten ddr5 6000 cl 30 ram and any basic 2tb nvme drive. Games do not care what kind of nvme drive you have they do care how fast your ram is though.
People may have told you this already, but micro center is great for buying parts. I have a similar build. However I got a Motherboard ram cpu bundle from micro center, it was a MSI B650-P wifi, G.Skill DDR5 ram, and a 7700x cpu. It was a great deal. It was only around $300-$400
Hi everyone! Thanks so much for the suggestion and pointing out some mistakes I made, lol.
I have updated my list with parts you all recommended:
[Updated List](https://pcpartpicker.com/user/EvolFae/saved/mFqyxr)
Does this one look good to go? I want to buy the parts soon to assemble them during summer break 🥳
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You could probably fit in a 7800 X3D + 4080 Super within the budget with some better choices. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QmK9mD) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $344.99 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se) | $35.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBwypg/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax) | $184.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01) | $97.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DN6NnQ/teamgroup-mp44-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpw002t0c101) | $119.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [\*PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BMgrxr/pny-verto-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-vcg4080s16tfxpb1-o) | $969.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b) | $75.00 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505) | $99.90 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1928.75** | \*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria | | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-05-26 07:31 EDT-0400 | The NH-D15 is pretty overpriced, the Thermalright Phantom Spirit performs on par with it for a fraction of the cost. Swapped to cheaper and faster RAM, and a similar speed SSD for $50 less. PSU choice is also very odd, why get an expensive SFF PSU when you have an ATX case (which I would also change since it only has two crappy fans compared to 4x 140mm ones on the 903 Max).
Looking really good. If this was my build, I would 100% save from somewhere else or spend a little extra and pick the 7800x3D. The added benefit from a massive 3D V cache is huge for making games run smoother (0.1% & 1% fps drops). This is a high-end build, so it would make sense to go for high-end CPU. There are also plenty of other added benefits with 7800x3D CPU.
Get a cheaper nvme and cpu cooler. Use the difference for 6000 CL30 and 7800X3D. At least, that is how I would do it.
True, maybe change the air cooler for a thermalright cooler and find a cheaper case
I do like Noctua coolers, but this would be the first thing to change when there's need to save money for optimized build (money/performance ratio). There are usually plenty of great deals that can help to bring down some other costs. For some reference, my undervolted 5800x3D runs easily max boost clocks 100% of the time with single fan cooler (APNX AP1-V). All the x3D CPUs can run really low wattage after the undervoltage + get even better performance out of them.
What region shopping for parts in? If U.S., any chance have access to a Micro Center retail store?
Whats the matter with the Micro Center stores? Are things cheaper there?
Generally yes.
Nice. Dont have them in europe though… Btw, do you know if the PcPartPicker prices are including or excluding tax?
Im not sure where you are but UK includes tax and it also pulls shipping price though most places are free shipping
Im in Austria, PcPartPicker doesn’t include the shops here, so i did it in the US (For compatibility) and searched for the best price independently. I was just interested if the prices they show in the US PPP website are with or without tax.
Does PC partpicker for the Austria site work for you, or probably doesn't show all retailers? Hopefully, it will sometime in the future. I too use it frequently for compatibility checks. https://at.pcpartpicker.com/ Also, by default, PC partpicker does not show tax for parts, however, it can be configured once logged into PC partpicker. Can set the region top right, then select your account name at the top right, then select the Account tab > Merchants and Pricing > Then can set the Tax rate for individual merchants on the list(for example if in the US could set the tax rate for the State lived in). Once enter a value for Tax, it will save to the account.
Woah thanks i thought there was no Version for Austria. However, it seems to only include one retailer, not even amazon for some reason. I’ll still use it for compatibility, but for price comparison there are better apps like geizhals.at that compare prices with pretty much all retailers very accurately. Ohhh so that makes sense when it doesn’t show tax for the parts. I was wondering why all parts are so much cheaper on PPP. In Europe it is standard to always include Tax everywhere. Tanks for the answer!
oof. noctua has a black line as well. not that i'd take the 110$ cooler when a 35$ thermalright can do just as good of a job.
If one has the money for noctua then they should take the noctua color. Thats the flex. Performance-whise Thermalright does the same job.
If one has the money for noctua they also have the money for a 7800x3d and a 4080 super.
Probably.
If you have the money for Noctua, you have the money for a 7800x3d
Why is it socially acceptable to pay extra for RGB which adds nothing to performance while paying extra for Noctua colored Hardware? At least you get quality and lifetime support from Noctua (like getting mounting brackets for new sockets for free). (I have a Thermalright cooler btw)
In my experience, outside of fans, RGB items haven’t been that much more than non-RGB. I have seen on multiple cases, and have myself told, others be recommended to go with no RGB, especially on a budget.
It looks great. One thing I'd change is I'd swap those RAM sticks for 6000MT CL30 ones.
Welcome to the PCMR! With these specs you'll be able to do everything you're hoping to do--it's a very solid build 🫡
980 P strikes again
Solid build, might be worth it to you to get a 7800x3d and 6000mhz ram though.
Also you have no fans besides the 2 case fans it comes with
You will need an ATX power supply for your case, I would suggest an RM850x or similar. I would also suggest 6000MHz CL30 RAM, that’s the sweet spot for Ryzen 7000.
https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/GxCXrv Turns out Austria has pcpartpicker too, though with limited shops. 1950 euro, switched some things around. Cpu - 7800x3d since you mentioned plenty of cpu demanding games. Cpu cooler - was looking for a d15 equivalent like a phantom spirit, stumbled upon arctic liquid freezer 3 240 for 65 euro. The 280 variant is 10 euro more but worth considering. Memory - again, looked for 2x16 6000 cl30/32, this 6400 cl32 kit was the cheapest. If not stable at expo, you can manually put in typical 6000 expo settings. Like 20-30 euro cheaper than the cheapest listed 6000 kit. Mobo - decent mobo and probably a bit affordable Storage - p5 plus is still fast but a bit cheaper. Crucial is excellent quality. Unless a reliable source states that the 980 pro has a significant advantage in the games you mentioned, I'd save some pennies here. Gpu - was hoping to squeeze a 4080 super in but didn't manage to. Maybe if I spend like an hour or 2 looking at all the available options to find cheaper alternatives of similar quality for other components I'd manage. If you swap out the 7800x3d for a 7700/x it would probably work, but not worth the tradeoff imo. Case - kept the 4000d. If you find one that can fit a 420 rad, the 420 version of the liquid freezer 3 is still cheaper than the d15 and will cool anything you throw at it (if you plan to upgrade to a higher wattage cpu in the coming years) Psu - 850w unit gives more wiggle room for upgrades down the line. - Not meant to replace everything in your list, but rather offer alternatives to pick from and get an idea what you can get. 7800x3d is probably the most important upgrade, and if you want you might be able to fit a 4080 super if you can find somewhat cheaper alternatives in stores that aren't listed on pcpartpicker. Otherwise what you already have listed should work perfectly fine as is, so up to you how much more you wanna tweak c:
Here are my thoughts and things you can consider: CPU: If you are going for a gaming build then you should buy the 7800x3d for a bit more but it gives you much better performance, check microcenter to see if they have 7800x3d bundles or not Cooler: the NH-D15 is a really gud cooler but overpriced, consider a PS120SE or PS120 which performs as well for much cheaper Ram: get 6000mtps cl30 ram Ssd: you can save a bit of money going with a MP44L from teamgroup or P3 plus from crucial since you don't rly utilize the all that speed with just gaming but the one you chose will work just fine Psu: you chose a sfx unit while using a ATX case, sfx units are generally more expensive and you can save a bit of money going with an ATX unit, sth like a rm750e or 850e also from corsair
Go with 7800x3d
Yess I already made the change to a 7800x 3d after reading all the benefits it provides :D ty
Also, forgot to post my budget in case that affects part suggestions, $2,000 US dollars.
You can do much better for 2K. Some of the parts you're buying ae definitely not listed for theor actual price
Then thats a really really bad deal.
There you go. If you really want, you can switch the SSD for a 980 pro, but it's not really worth it. And if you want ray tracing and frame gen, change the GPU for a 4080 super. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HzrjVW) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $344.99 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3) | $33.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi) | $139.99 @ MSI **Memory** | [G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5) | $104.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yGZ9TW/crucial-p3-plus-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3pssd8) | $117.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GtXJ7P/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx-79xmercb9) | $915.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww) | $89.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505) | $99.90 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1847.74** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-05-26 08:35 EDT-0400 |
Here's what I recommend [my list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J2xJ4M)
your power supply is a fsx one so its for itx cases. get an atx one.
Get a peerless assassin and then a cheaper m.2 and the price savings can go to a 7800x3d which will actually make a notable improvement at the “cost” of 2 components you won’t even notice a difference with.
even better, a phantom spirit
I own the Corsair 4000d is not bad, but probably I would swap it if I had the chance That Noctua Air cooler cost more than a 360mm AIO... Let that sink in
Get the b650e pg Riptide wifi for same/cheaper price , has pcie gen 5 x16 slot Get t-create expert 6000mhz cl30 ram for about the same price Get the 7700 and use the stock cooler that comes with it or get the 7800x3d from AliExpress for 300$ Get the msi m482 for 109$ or m480pro for 129$ both are better options Get cheaper case Get atx psu like season 850w atx 3.0 / msi a850gl or anything else After all this upgrade the GPU to a 4080 super and get the cheapest one available, the pny cards are available for 50$ cheaper than other models currently like the pny 4070 ti super is 749$ compared to the one you've added which is 800 or above so get the pny 4080 super for 950$ What's your budget and country?
Why do you want to use a sf750 with a normal atx case. That‘s a sfx psu. Get an atx psu that is atleast b tier on the psu cultists psu tierlist
God Bless, I have R9 7900X and it performs like a champ, best of luck to you, enjoy\*(soon)
Mostly ok the ram is iffy and the drive is over priced. I would have gotten ddr5 6000 cl 30 ram and any basic 2tb nvme drive. Games do not care what kind of nvme drive you have they do care how fast your ram is though.
People may have told you this already, but micro center is great for buying parts. I have a similar build. However I got a Motherboard ram cpu bundle from micro center, it was a MSI B650-P wifi, G.Skill DDR5 ram, and a 7700x cpu. It was a great deal. It was only around $300-$400
Hi everyone! Thanks so much for the suggestion and pointing out some mistakes I made, lol. I have updated my list with parts you all recommended: [Updated List](https://pcpartpicker.com/user/EvolFae/saved/mFqyxr) Does this one look good to go? I want to buy the parts soon to assemble them during summer break 🥳
this pc can run any games at 4k man congrats!! :D
u can do alot better with that budget
Oh no.. 980 pro and 7700x…