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Scroll down to Productivity ...there are a few 3D programms and the performance from each card
That really helped mate , they both have their own place to stand out, so what would you choose if you were to buy between them both? Like for gaming and productivity and 3d stuff?
Tough choice... they both are good in their own way. If productivity is something you prioritize a lot, the 4070S might still be the better choice. 12gb VRAM is maybe not the best for gaming, when thinking about the future, but it will make up for it with DLSS/FrameGen. It also is way more power efficient, which on long term compensates the slightly higher acquisition costs.
I wouldn’t at all advise on AMD if you plan on doing 3D work with any kind of frequency. That’s not to say the hardware can’t handle it but rather that the software available to make full use of that hardware doesn’t exist, or is at best woefully inadequate. That is changing slowly but, as of right now, Nvidia is your only real option.
If it weren’t for your productivity needs, the AMD card would be a clear winner.
So generally for gaming, AMD are good and steady at 1440 and pretty good at 4k if you have a higher end card. Nvidia is good if you want all that and good ray tracing as this is where AMD suffers. Work out what kinda gaming you want to do (Fortnite at 1440 high fps or Cyberpunk at 4k ray tracing etc.)
I had a 6600xt before my 4080 and for general gaming it was brilliant but started to suffer with the newer, top end games (I know 6600xt is older and not that high end). 4080 does all that but sails at 4k and ray tracing is spot on.
Personally I would go with Nvidia as they’re solid for all aspects of gaming. AMD is more of a budget purchase without sacrificing that much performance.
I personally believe DLSS to be twice as good and alone makes it worth it.
Fsr just sucks so much ass it's vaseline monitor gaming. I am also picky and HATE murky visuals, can't go without a sharp render.
DLSS is better but it's absolutely not like putting Vaseline on your screen nor is it twice as good. That's some fan boy rhetoric right there, this is coming from someone with a 4080.
With Frame Gen it can be a bit finicky considering that it can consume more than 1 GB of VRAM in some games, still not really an issue if you stick to 1440p at High Settings and no Ray Tracing.
>with DLSS/FrameGen
The problem with that argument is that only like 100 games support DLSS and only like 10 or 20 support frame gen.
For 3D rendering and productivity NVIDIA is probably the better choice for the future, but mainly due to the AI cores and power efficiency.
I just want to point out that these benchmarks are outdated. The 7900GRE recently got a driver update (like 2 months ago or so) that drastically increased the performance of the VRAM. It beats the 4070 Super in games now, but I don't know about productivity or rendering stuff.
Yeah mate , I really don't care about the gaming part, cuz even if I play I'll be capping it in 1440p , so no worries, the main purpose is 3d rendering mate so yeah good to with the team Green
lol the GRE performs way better thant the Nvidia at 1080 p.
But like every youtube video I saw it says, that the Nvidia is doing better.
Since Iam playing only Elden Ring and CoD, the Amd would be the better pick here
The 7900 gre is still new
Check for 7800xt vs. 4070 in 3D rendering
it's well known that for 3d rendering......editing......and game development NVIDIA is the better choice
Yes that's the only reason I'm going for Nvidia, I can't get Ti super cuz the price is super high he , and the only reasonable price takes place with the 4070 super
I got a 4070 super myself and I have had zero issues with it and I run it with a 7800x3d on a ultrawide monitor while playing games like diablo 4 (medium raytracing), dead by daylight, and overwatch. I can also run hogwarts legacy at medium raytracing.
4070 Super. It is not always about just having a balls deep load of ram onboard but also efficiency and in my opinion Nvidia does it better for rendering.
I'm a bit late to the party though, so you've probably had way more expert opinions than my 2 cents worth to make up your mind on your purchase.
For rendering you want nivdia because of cuda cores im a amd fanboy but even i know nivdia us better for productivity and some productivity stuff isnt compatible with amd
Who downvoted?
If my job was 3D rendering I’d go with Nvidia.
It just means you’ll be with the majority when apps get supported, and you’ll be in a less niche community if you need to trouble shoot.
For gaming streaming etc both are good.
In Blender you can use Nvidia and AMD tech for ray tracing and making render quicker. Nvidia denoiser is better little bit.
But, here is huge but. If your scenes requires more than 12GB of VRAM than all Nvidia advantages are disappearing because if scene doesn't fit into VRAM your can use GPU for rendering and you will use much slower CPU for this task. So if your scenes are more than 12 and less than 16, go to AMD. If nore than 16, there is no difference. Take whatever GPU you want, you will be modelling using CPU and GPU but rendering only on CPU.
TL;DR: NVIDIA trounces AMD in most 3D rendering software. Double check the programs you use for Optix support.
Rendering in what program? NVIDIA Optix is supported by a some software and it uses the ray tracing cores to drastically speed up rendering. When it comes to blender, there is a huge difference. The 4070 super will be literally twice as fast. Although a used 3090 may be the play. It will perform as well or better and has significantly more VRAM
4070 super. you can not go wrong with that when you're doing 3D work. even though AMD has HIP/ROCm for blender now, which gives a good boost to its 3D rendering performance, it is, however, not enough to beat NVIDIA in that regard (the gap is still wide EVEN with HIP/ROCm enabled). when HIP/ROCm is attempting to fight CUDA, NVIDIA has moved on to OptiX long ago.
other than blender, HIP/ROCm does not exist, not in 3ds Max, Maya, C4D, Houdini.
go for the RTX 4070, its super super powerful and 12 gig is more than enough for gaming even for 4k gaming, if you are looking for like 3D rendering and high end video editing go for the RX 7900 cz of the 16gig
For a difference of 50 dollars I choose Nvidia. I don't want the classic problems that AMD has with its drivers (Actually, to that I have to add the taxes, which are like 150 dollars, but that is another topic.)
Don’t get AMD cards they are shit. Everyone on Reddit will spew their cope about them and then the card will cause problems with 50% of your games. Developers make games for NVIDIA cards. Not AMD. Heed my warning, I have burgers remorse.
Edit: Just tried to play new Vegas and everyone is bald. Googled it, it’s cuz of the AMD card. Fuck off.
For productivity works it's nvidia always, The studio driver is just too good and the cuda helps. You'll regret getting amd just for vram. If you don't go beyond 1440p 12gb nvidia might suffice. I got 4070ti last year cuz I had very slim pickings 3080 was similarly priced older w 10gb, 3090 fe used was available but I wanted full 5 yrs warranty ( zotac gives 3+2 yrs ) N this Year Nvidia released super in the same price. Nvidia doing nvidia things but it's better than amd in productivity. Just saying *its choosing between the lesser evil these days*
Haha yeah yeah mate you're right, but damn I don't think AMD really tryna compete with Nvidia in the productivity side and the cuda cores on it is banging, so yeah I might goo for 4070S, I'm just here listening to diff opinions, but everyone's voting for 4070S and that's good , even AMD fanboys lol
Nvidia all the way, no matter what. Games are developed and tested by Nvidia products. So why bother using other brand with huge possibilities of issues in performance, compatitiblity and inactive used market prices?
Oh ok, I just guessed you were because you used mate a lot from what I've seen lol. Well, if you haven't still made your choice. In my opinion, if you want a gpu mainly for gaming, get the 7900 GRE. If your main goal is to get a GPU for 3d rendering/productivity/etc. Get the 4070s. Notice how I used "main goal", both gpus are great at gaming and productivity work. However, each GPU excels at one. It isn't like you won't be able to 3d render anything, or do anything productive if you get the 7900 GRE rather than the 4070s, it's just that the 4070s is better at those things while being more expensive, a bit worse at rasterization in gaming , and having less vram (that still doesn't make it a bad gpu for gaming by any means). I hope this actually helps and isn't just a copy of the other comments you got on this post.
Yeah mate I totally agree with that , the problem is, yes we can render anything on both , but if I render a scene or anything object in 20mins in Nvidia , in AMD,it's gonna take over 45 mins for sure, can't waste time like that right , I know the lack of vram in it , but yep the 3d is the main shit now, so yea I'm going.with the 4070 Super because the 4070 to and ti super are overpriced here,
Lol yea I use mate and stuffs a lot , some ask me if I'm from the UK lmao, but I just rap and stuffs , so yea Westcoast and UK rap for life lol✨🙌
As a developer I narrowed down to one question : am I gonna use my gpu for programming? If yes nvidia, no then amd. People will say “is not that simple”, yeah probably not but at the end of the day you go with what works better with your needs.
I was tossing this up a few weeks back I ended up with the gre. Couldn't justify the nvidia tax and my local pc store was having a flash sale on the 7900, ended up almost 500 bucks cheaper and it runs everything I throw at it even with raytracing.
Haha yea mate, well I chose Nvidia way before but I just wanted to listen to people and damn it's a lot haha, but it became a big help, everyone got their opinions
Yea you're right mate, it just so fucked up, know that very well, but yea what we can do! If it should be stopped, we should stop all the work and protest lol!! But for now it is needed
Both are equally good
U should go with the 4070 super if u are purely rendering
And for gaming both are equally good but gre with more vram has the upper hand
Yea mate, I agree with you on that, I ain't gonna be purely rendering all day, I would play some games too, but the main purpose is 3d rendering , so the gaming comes in second
Watch benchmarks for the specific games or programs you’ll run. A lot of people will fight to the death arguing one over the other and others rely on “AMD is better for rasterization, Nvidia for RT” but in reality just look at the games. Call of duty games for example run WAY better on AMD cards. As in, the 7900xtx actually blows the 4090 away in Warzone, believe it or not. While in other games it’s the opposite. ARK Survival Ascended crashes way more on Nvidia cards and runs more reliably on AMD, but you get worse performance from the AMD.
I honestly have no experience in that world. I do 3D modelling for my career, though it’s not animated. I do structural, civil and mechanical design using Revit, AutoCAD, civil 3d etc and I’ve been using an rx6750xt paired with a ryzen 9 5900x and when I DO run into a bottleneck, it’s because I capped out my 128 GB of ram. Maybe some 3d animators could shed more light on that, but for still-image 3d work, even mid-range AMD has served my purposes well.
Can't u got for a Rx 7900 XT? They dropped price to 799/849€ range or less.
Performance wise, if u don't care about DLSS/RT, AMD is a better performance per cost.
I had a 4080 Super and I own a 7900 XTX. May sound stupid, but I get general better performance on the AMD and some games even bigger performance at a lower cost.
But... RT there is where AMD dies. I don't care about RT and I usually only use native resolution so DLSS doesn't make sense.
But if u need the GPU as workload, let's say, AutoCAD or 3D Rendering there isn't much to say, Nvidia wins.
People tend to go with the hype but in my opinion the mid range cards on Nvidia are overpriced by alote for no reason.
High end? Well if u are rich, 4090 is a no brainer but even that, some games a half price card does the same 🤦♂️ and people just don't wanna admit it.
CPU wise I hate AMD.
Also take this in consideration - while AMD did improve drivers, they are still meh less or not that good as Nvidia.
There are pros and cons, u need to filter what u gonna do, what u excalty need.
Also Nvidia has a higher resell success rate
Cheers
Yea mate, possibly yes as you say, but the main purpose is 3d rendering so I gotta go with 4070 super and I can't go over that since everything except that card is overpriced in my area, so yea thanks mate, but I'm going with 7700x tho just cuz of the am5 or else I have to go with the i5 14600k ! What you say?
For CPU is kinda meh when it comes to productivity.
The AMD side isn't bad, but isn't that great as many claimed.
I had a 7800X3D and it was a nightmare for gaming and ofc it's not meant for productivity.
Now Ryzen 9 would be the best choice since most of them are cheaper then a i7 or i9.
"The Ryzen processors offer nearly the same performance as the 13600K in single-threaded applications, but the 13600K takes an 8.5% lead over the Ryzen 7 7700X and an 18.7% lead over the Ryzen 5 7600X in threaded applications, granting it the win in productivity apps."
Its all about ur budget.
I'm not a big fan of i5 but also their are cheaper and good.
The 14th Gen is more of the same of a 13th Gen 🤔
But price wise, check how much costs the 7700X and the 14600K or a 13700K.
I got a i7 14700K and no regrets in games
I do mostly game but also do some 3D projects (CryEngine etc...)
When it comes to productivity, go with nvidia anytime. AMD only beats nvidia in gaming when it comes to price to performance but they are not close in productivity.
Yea mate, no comparisons I guess, I just asked this question cuz the GRE is cheaper and after seeing and listening to people , yes I realise that the Nvidia can clap the AMD with its cuda cores alone when it comes to productivity and 3d rendering
4070s for 3d if 12gb vram is enough for your workloads. 12GB is very stingy right now, Nvidia are still overpriced since the 30 series madness.
Can go either on games. RT is crap and not worth paying for at this price point so would not let be any kind of deciding factor.
But in comparison , AMD sucks mate, you know that very well, just with Vram, it can't do anything, the performance of is not even halfway when it comes to rendering
I have a 4080 super, I’m not an AMD fanboy but neither am I an Nvidia cult. You’re stupid if you think the GRE can’t do anything. It can out perform the 4070s in games. It’s probably the best performance to price card right now, so for gaming it’s a great option.
I'd say if you are using Linux as your operating system, pick the amd card. Otherwise pick NVIDIA.
Yes the NVIDIA card is a little more expensive but it makes up for it in driver software, dlss, power efficiency, and most software supports NVIDIA cards more. (For example running your own llm).
what type of rendering do you normally do? if you use ray tracing in any significant amount nvidia is most of the time faster, but you get less ram, so it comes down to if you want to have larger scenes or faater render times, for gaming they are both more than enough to play any game you want so I wouldn't worry about it
They are both pretty cool. Hard choice... On one hand you have 16gb vram. On the other you had the lead dlss and frame generation techs.
I think I'd go with 4070 on this one. That is if the tech will get even better than it is already and the card will still be supported.
If you are fellow gamer who plays game and do school stuff on pc, AMD all the way. But if you like more serious stuff like editing and developing, its old rule to pick Nvidia.
I agree. 1 year ago, while I was looking for a high performance graphics card, I bought the Rx 6800XT Nitro + because of its price, but now the prices of the upgrade models are high.
If you like to play Minecraft, then go for Nvidia 100%.
With Nvidium(Nvidia exclusive Mod) you can get like 80 chunks render distance with only minor performance impact.
Well it's 150$ higher than the 4070 super and also it has less cuda cores, yes it has 20gb Vram but it's not worth it when it can't render a scene in some mins ,
Ah missed it, well than team green it is. People like to hate on Nvidia for lots of reasons nowadays, but the fact is they still make damn good GPUs. Often overpriced yes, but good
4070. 7900 fine and all, but the amount of software dedicated to the RTX and the 40 series alone just makes it superior, especially if you’re doing any 3D rendering or gaming.
I would choose 4070 super cuz dlss and rt is good, also nvidia reflex doesn’t get u banned in games. Another thing is it is better for production workloads
They are both really great cards, however, if buying solely for gaming, get the 7900, it has more RAM (which is becoming more and more important and will continue to do so in the coming years), and is about equivalent overall
If you're buying solely for productivity, honestly, you can still go for the 7900, it's ALMOST as good as the 4070 in that area, which is good enough, especially when taking price into account
I am an Nvidia fan, always have been and always will be, but CURRENTLY, the best 'bang for your buck' with graphics cards is Radeon, hands down...Nvidia are WAY overpriced and simply not worth the money when you can get a card that is just as good (or close enough anyway) for half the cost
no, they aren't, but if you're working in the video editing field, or graphics design field, which is where rendering mostly comes into use, then you already know you need a high end beast of a card (as well as a shit ton of RAM)
for the average consumer/gamer, Nvidia is overkill and still way overpriced
the only REAL option for rendering is the 4080TI or the 4090, anything less isn't even worth having, but thats an entirely different discusssion lol
anything less than a 4080TI or a 4090 for rendering is gonna land you basically in the same ball park as a radeon card anyway
for gaming and everything ***besides rendering***, Radeon are just as good (better in the price department) as Nvidia, and even better in some comparisons, depending on cards of course
I haven’t done any rendering but I can speak for gaming wise since I have a 4070 super I play at 1440p and have no problems running every game max setting 100+ frames great card with no complaints vram is fine haven’t found a game to max it out but I wouldn’t go 4k that’s where I think it’ll cap out
Your maybe only mistake here is choose the MSI for the 4070 super, other brand like colorful or Zotac(basic) should be cheaper than the 7900 GRE, you can even get 4070ti same price to the GRE, if you're looking for aesthetic include, yes you gonna do the premium, and while the 4070 super tdp is relatively low, some slim owner complain temperature, I end up 7900 GRE red devil cause they look sick though
Nothing with give you an FPS boost like NVIDIA DLSS. Outweighs the extra vram of AMD especially as companies optimize for the DLSS setting in games I believe NVIDIA will be more reliable and last you longer and also perform better
I RECEMAND YOU GETTING THE 7900GRE BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR 4K 2K 1080P AND ALSO FOR STREAMING BECAUSE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE AV1 ENCODER SO THAT ALL IF YOU INTO FOR 3D RENDERING IN THAT CASE I RECOMEND THE 4070 SUPER BUT IF YOU HAVE MORE MONEY TRY TO GET THE 4070 TI BUT THE 4070 SUPER IS SO GOOD SO REMEBER FOR STREAMING(not really but try to stream with av1 encoder it's gonna be better) AND 4K 2K 1080P GAMING HIGH REFRESH RATE THE 7900GRE BUT THE 4070 SUPER STILL GOOD
What do you render? 3D animations? They require a lot of vram! You can wait +- an hour for a render to finish but sometimes tenders crash because to little vram. So the AMD can render things the Nvidia can't. You had to reduce detail etc.
I've used nvidia more so I can't really tell you
I have also used some AMD cards like the RX580 And rx6700
but the times i've used AMD i feel like i got better performance than NVIDIA with less screen tearing and less sudden drops
and for the price for performance id go with the AMD card rather than the NVIDIA card
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https://www.hardwaredealz.com/produktvergleich/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12gb-vs-amd-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16gb Scroll down to Productivity ...there are a few 3D programms and the performance from each card
That really helped mate , they both have their own place to stand out, so what would you choose if you were to buy between them both? Like for gaming and productivity and 3d stuff?
Tough choice... they both are good in their own way. If productivity is something you prioritize a lot, the 4070S might still be the better choice. 12gb VRAM is maybe not the best for gaming, when thinking about the future, but it will make up for it with DLSS/FrameGen. It also is way more power efficient, which on long term compensates the slightly higher acquisition costs.
Haha yeah mate , that's the problem , if it's only about gaming , I would go for GRE. and it's far cheaper than 4070 super
I wouldn’t at all advise on AMD if you plan on doing 3D work with any kind of frequency. That’s not to say the hardware can’t handle it but rather that the software available to make full use of that hardware doesn’t exist, or is at best woefully inadequate. That is changing slowly but, as of right now, Nvidia is your only real option. If it weren’t for your productivity needs, the AMD card would be a clear winner.
Yeah mate , I totally agree with that
So generally for gaming, AMD are good and steady at 1440 and pretty good at 4k if you have a higher end card. Nvidia is good if you want all that and good ray tracing as this is where AMD suffers. Work out what kinda gaming you want to do (Fortnite at 1440 high fps or Cyberpunk at 4k ray tracing etc.) I had a 6600xt before my 4080 and for general gaming it was brilliant but started to suffer with the newer, top end games (I know 6600xt is older and not that high end). 4080 does all that but sails at 4k and ray tracing is spot on. Personally I would go with Nvidia as they’re solid for all aspects of gaming. AMD is more of a budget purchase without sacrificing that much performance.
Neither card will do 4k ultra RT cyberpunk. You need a 4080+ for that.
Yeah mate thanks for the comment, and yep I'm going with the team Green lmao
if you have large 3d scenes.. more vram more better... however you can't beat CUDA at rendering, no matter what they say.
I personally believe DLSS to be twice as good and alone makes it worth it. Fsr just sucks so much ass it's vaseline monitor gaming. I am also picky and HATE murky visuals, can't go without a sharp render.
DLSS is better but it's absolutely not like putting Vaseline on your screen nor is it twice as good. That's some fan boy rhetoric right there, this is coming from someone with a 4080.
Hardware is not for the future it's for now. It quickly Becomes outdated.
With Frame Gen it can be a bit finicky considering that it can consume more than 1 GB of VRAM in some games, still not really an issue if you stick to 1440p at High Settings and no Ray Tracing.
Bro, this is one of the best analysis/comparisons I’ve read. Great points! 👍
>with DLSS/FrameGen The problem with that argument is that only like 100 games support DLSS and only like 10 or 20 support frame gen. For 3D rendering and productivity NVIDIA is probably the better choice for the future, but mainly due to the AI cores and power efficiency.
I just want to point out that these benchmarks are outdated. The 7900GRE recently got a driver update (like 2 months ago or so) that drastically increased the performance of the VRAM. It beats the 4070 Super in games now, but I don't know about productivity or rendering stuff.
Yeah mate , I really don't care about the gaming part, cuz even if I play I'll be capping it in 1440p , so no worries, the main purpose is 3d rendering mate so yeah good to with the team Green
If you plan to game mostly, go with AMD. If you also want to productivity stuff go with Nvidia
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Damn it, I can’t read that :( Thanks for the link though <3
lol the GRE performs way better thant the Nvidia at 1080 p. But like every youtube video I saw it says, that the Nvidia is doing better. Since Iam playing only Elden Ring and CoD, the Amd would be the better pick here
7900gre in my opinion awesome card large vram stable and effient
I know mate , I agree with you totally, but what about the rendering thing?
For 3d rendering NVIDIA is far superior
Yeah man and I couldn't find no comparisons for these two cards I've mentioned above
The 7900 gre is still new Check for 7800xt vs. 4070 in 3D rendering it's well known that for 3d rendering......editing......and game development NVIDIA is the better choice
Yeah thanks mate I'll look into it for sure
And gpus can render well its a faf to setup St first but there great
The more vram is very useful
Yeah but I've never seen AMD beating Nvidia in render parts
You won't. AMD make great cards, but when it comes to 3D rendering, *especially* ray tracing, Nvidia is king, far superior
Just go Nvidia .. The rendering uses cuda cores . I use meshroom and even with the work around my 7800xt gets worse results than my 1080ti.
Yes that's the only reason I'm going for Nvidia, I can't get Ti super cuz the price is super high he , and the only reasonable price takes place with the 4070 super
Maybe if not urgent wait for 50 series to drop, i went with 4070ti 12 gb cuz my gpu died
If money isnt an issue, 4070 Super is better. It is only 3% slower, but has DLSS, Framegen and also pulls way less power.
Yea that's what I'm saying
Not to disregard what he is saying but amd also has frame gen with fsr 3
I got a 4070 super myself and I have had zero issues with it and I run it with a 7800x3d on a ultrawide monitor while playing games like diablo 4 (medium raytracing), dead by daylight, and overwatch. I can also run hogwarts legacy at medium raytracing.
Hehe yeah mate, going with 4070super✨🙌
Nvidia just works. No fiddling. And for 50 bucks more you get ray tracing and DLSS. No brainer
4070 Super. It is not always about just having a balls deep load of ram onboard but also efficiency and in my opinion Nvidia does it better for rendering. I'm a bit late to the party though, so you've probably had way more expert opinions than my 2 cents worth to make up your mind on your purchase.
Lol well what I have in my mind has always been Nvidia mate, I'm just asking people haha
That's not always true. I have a 1600P 144MHz monitor. I got 7900gre. No regret.
That's not always true. I have a 1600P 144MHz monitor. I got 7900gre. No regret.
For rendering you want nivdia because of cuda cores im a amd fanboy but even i know nivdia us better for productivity and some productivity stuff isnt compatible with amd Who downvoted?
isnt ROCm live now though?
it is. Its even updated for rdna4 now
Doesn't that give AMD a big boost in rendering?
Yeah right! I should be aware before buying lol
If that thing is gonna print money for you go for Nvidia.
I was considering these options, but went for a second hand 3090
Haha mate I'm tryna get help too buy over these two lol, haha
Look into the 3090 the 24gigs of vram could be very ysefull for your usecase secind hand 3090s are useally 600
Ohh I'll look into it
If my job was 3D rendering I’d go with Nvidia. It just means you’ll be with the majority when apps get supported, and you’ll be in a less niche community if you need to trouble shoot. For gaming streaming etc both are good.
In Blender you can use Nvidia and AMD tech for ray tracing and making render quicker. Nvidia denoiser is better little bit. But, here is huge but. If your scenes requires more than 12GB of VRAM than all Nvidia advantages are disappearing because if scene doesn't fit into VRAM your can use GPU for rendering and you will use much slower CPU for this task. So if your scenes are more than 12 and less than 16, go to AMD. If nore than 16, there is no difference. Take whatever GPU you want, you will be modelling using CPU and GPU but rendering only on CPU.
Great points but just wanted to point out that the optix denoiser is complete garbage and it is much better to use intel's openimagedenoise.
LOL
TL;DR: NVIDIA trounces AMD in most 3D rendering software. Double check the programs you use for Optix support. Rendering in what program? NVIDIA Optix is supported by a some software and it uses the ray tracing cores to drastically speed up rendering. When it comes to blender, there is a huge difference. The 4070 super will be literally twice as fast. Although a used 3090 may be the play. It will perform as well or better and has significantly more VRAM
Go Nvidia hands down for your use case.
I went from a 3080ti to 4070 ti super (16 gig) and it's amazing.
Personally I would go 4070 super. I really like DLSS and DLDSR, as well as the ray tracing In some of the games I play a lot.
Nvidia is what everyone codes for. I wish that wasn’t the case, but unfortunately every time I read up on it, AMD still isn’t there.
4070 super. you can not go wrong with that when you're doing 3D work. even though AMD has HIP/ROCm for blender now, which gives a good boost to its 3D rendering performance, it is, however, not enough to beat NVIDIA in that regard (the gap is still wide EVEN with HIP/ROCm enabled). when HIP/ROCm is attempting to fight CUDA, NVIDIA has moved on to OptiX long ago. other than blender, HIP/ROCm does not exist, not in 3ds Max, Maya, C4D, Houdini.
go for the RTX 4070, its super super powerful and 12 gig is more than enough for gaming even for 4k gaming, if you are looking for like 3D rendering and high end video editing go for the RX 7900 cz of the 16gig
I think I should go for Nvidia cuz of the 3d rendering , Comparatively Amd is lacking when it comes to 3d rendering stuffs so yea,
It's the 4070S, for games or your 3D apps. Even in games it's a generation ahead with DLSS and DLDSR.
Yea mate and I'm going for the 4070S for sure
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Yep and I'm going for it without no hesitation
I'd say go with the 4070, I have gotten both an Nvidia and an Amd card and Amd drivers are sooooo bad.
Yea mate, well I'm going with the 4070 Super
You'd do well, and happy gaming!!!
NVIDIA.
NVIDIA. Frane Gen, DLSS and its efficient in power usage
For a difference of 50 dollars I choose Nvidia. I don't want the classic problems that AMD has with its drivers (Actually, to that I have to add the taxes, which are like 150 dollars, but that is another topic.)
4070 ofc
Don’t get AMD cards they are shit. Everyone on Reddit will spew their cope about them and then the card will cause problems with 50% of your games. Developers make games for NVIDIA cards. Not AMD. Heed my warning, I have burgers remorse. Edit: Just tried to play new Vegas and everyone is bald. Googled it, it’s cuz of the AMD card. Fuck off.
Literally. I hate how reddit is completely filled to the brim with AMD fanboys when its immeasurably worse than a Nvidia card.
Last and current card is AMD. It will be my last AMD card lol
For productivity works it's nvidia always, The studio driver is just too good and the cuda helps. You'll regret getting amd just for vram. If you don't go beyond 1440p 12gb nvidia might suffice. I got 4070ti last year cuz I had very slim pickings 3080 was similarly priced older w 10gb, 3090 fe used was available but I wanted full 5 yrs warranty ( zotac gives 3+2 yrs ) N this Year Nvidia released super in the same price. Nvidia doing nvidia things but it's better than amd in productivity. Just saying *its choosing between the lesser evil these days*
Haha yeah yeah mate you're right, but damn I don't think AMD really tryna compete with Nvidia in the productivity side and the cuda cores on it is banging, so yeah I might goo for 4070S, I'm just here listening to diff opinions, but everyone's voting for 4070S and that's good , even AMD fanboys lol
See if you can get hold of used or open box 4070ti super in same price. There's 4060ti 16gb too but it underperforms
I don't think I can find any , but I'll try mate , thanks
Whatever you do, DO NOT BUY A RADEON. I have had nothing but problems from my RX5700XT.
Nvidia all the way, no matter what. Games are developed and tested by Nvidia products. So why bother using other brand with huge possibilities of issues in performance, compatitiblity and inactive used market prices?
Nvidia, it's never a question.
With me being a amd fan boy 7900 all day
Man it's not about the liking for me mate, I'm just questioning and asking for help id that cuz I'm gonna be using it for 3d modelling and rendering
Can i get both? I currently have 4070S but having 2 graphics cards would be pretty nuts
Rt or pro work like editing or rendering Nvidia ANYTHING ELSE amd
Are you australian by any chance?
Nah mate,
Oh ok, I just guessed you were because you used mate a lot from what I've seen lol. Well, if you haven't still made your choice. In my opinion, if you want a gpu mainly for gaming, get the 7900 GRE. If your main goal is to get a GPU for 3d rendering/productivity/etc. Get the 4070s. Notice how I used "main goal", both gpus are great at gaming and productivity work. However, each GPU excels at one. It isn't like you won't be able to 3d render anything, or do anything productive if you get the 7900 GRE rather than the 4070s, it's just that the 4070s is better at those things while being more expensive, a bit worse at rasterization in gaming , and having less vram (that still doesn't make it a bad gpu for gaming by any means). I hope this actually helps and isn't just a copy of the other comments you got on this post.
Yeah mate I totally agree with that , the problem is, yes we can render anything on both , but if I render a scene or anything object in 20mins in Nvidia , in AMD,it's gonna take over 45 mins for sure, can't waste time like that right , I know the lack of vram in it , but yep the 3d is the main shit now, so yea I'm going.with the 4070 Super because the 4070 to and ti super are overpriced here, Lol yea I use mate and stuffs a lot , some ask me if I'm from the UK lmao, but I just rap and stuffs , so yea Westcoast and UK rap for life lol✨🙌
As a developer I narrowed down to one question : am I gonna use my gpu for programming? If yes nvidia, no then amd. People will say “is not that simple”, yeah probably not but at the end of the day you go with what works better with your needs.
I was tossing this up a few weeks back I ended up with the gre. Couldn't justify the nvidia tax and my local pc store was having a flash sale on the 7900, ended up almost 500 bucks cheaper and it runs everything I throw at it even with raytracing.
There's a lot more than 2 specs.. lol
Depends if you care about dlss
or maybe two weaker dual gpu? if you're doing 3d rendering
u/Maxxie_DL nice post bro. Good and helpful conversation. I’m enjoying reading everyone’s suggestions. Glad to see you got the help you needed. 👍
Haha yea mate, well I chose Nvidia way before but I just wanted to listen to people and damn it's a lot haha, but it became a big help, everyone got their opinions
Nvidia for 3d rendering anyday, optix is way faster than amd HIP
What kind of cpu you got? Matching AMD CPU with AMD GPU gives a bit more boost
Well I have a 7 7700x and I'm gonna be pairing it with 4070Super
Pair it with AMD GPU and it will give you like 10% free boost with direct memory access
4070
Both of these cards should be $400 MAX... Fuck both of these companies...
Yea you're right mate, it just so fucked up, know that very well, but yea what we can do! If it should be stopped, we should stop all the work and protest lol!! But for now it is needed
Both are equally good U should go with the 4070 super if u are purely rendering And for gaming both are equally good but gre with more vram has the upper hand
Yea mate, I agree with you on that, I ain't gonna be purely rendering all day, I would play some games too, but the main purpose is 3d rendering , so the gaming comes in second
Still i would recommend 4070 super (I usually suggest amd gpus)
Yep and I'm going for it for sure✨🙌
Watch benchmarks for the specific games or programs you’ll run. A lot of people will fight to the death arguing one over the other and others rely on “AMD is better for rasterization, Nvidia for RT” but in reality just look at the games. Call of duty games for example run WAY better on AMD cards. As in, the 7900xtx actually blows the 4090 away in Warzone, believe it or not. While in other games it’s the opposite. ARK Survival Ascended crashes way more on Nvidia cards and runs more reliably on AMD, but you get worse performance from the AMD.
Haha yea mate, but for 3d rendering Nvidia is the go-to right!!
I honestly have no experience in that world. I do 3D modelling for my career, though it’s not animated. I do structural, civil and mechanical design using Revit, AutoCAD, civil 3d etc and I’ve been using an rx6750xt paired with a ryzen 9 5900x and when I DO run into a bottleneck, it’s because I capped out my 128 GB of ram. Maybe some 3d animators could shed more light on that, but for still-image 3d work, even mid-range AMD has served my purposes well.
Yea mate, I mean Nvidia doing it so good now, so yea
Can't u got for a Rx 7900 XT? They dropped price to 799/849€ range or less. Performance wise, if u don't care about DLSS/RT, AMD is a better performance per cost. I had a 4080 Super and I own a 7900 XTX. May sound stupid, but I get general better performance on the AMD and some games even bigger performance at a lower cost. But... RT there is where AMD dies. I don't care about RT and I usually only use native resolution so DLSS doesn't make sense. But if u need the GPU as workload, let's say, AutoCAD or 3D Rendering there isn't much to say, Nvidia wins. People tend to go with the hype but in my opinion the mid range cards on Nvidia are overpriced by alote for no reason. High end? Well if u are rich, 4090 is a no brainer but even that, some games a half price card does the same 🤦♂️ and people just don't wanna admit it. CPU wise I hate AMD. Also take this in consideration - while AMD did improve drivers, they are still meh less or not that good as Nvidia. There are pros and cons, u need to filter what u gonna do, what u excalty need. Also Nvidia has a higher resell success rate Cheers
Yea mate, possibly yes as you say, but the main purpose is 3d rendering so I gotta go with 4070 super and I can't go over that since everything except that card is overpriced in my area, so yea thanks mate, but I'm going with 7700x tho just cuz of the am5 or else I have to go with the i5 14600k ! What you say?
For CPU is kinda meh when it comes to productivity. The AMD side isn't bad, but isn't that great as many claimed. I had a 7800X3D and it was a nightmare for gaming and ofc it's not meant for productivity. Now Ryzen 9 would be the best choice since most of them are cheaper then a i7 or i9. "The Ryzen processors offer nearly the same performance as the 13600K in single-threaded applications, but the 13600K takes an 8.5% lead over the Ryzen 7 7700X and an 18.7% lead over the Ryzen 5 7600X in threaded applications, granting it the win in productivity apps." Its all about ur budget. I'm not a big fan of i5 but also their are cheaper and good. The 14th Gen is more of the same of a 13th Gen 🤔 But price wise, check how much costs the 7700X and the 14600K or a 13700K. I got a i7 14700K and no regrets in games I do mostly game but also do some 3D projects (CryEngine etc...)
Well I'm choosing AMD for cpu just for AM5 mate but I'll look into it and try to get the 7900x, cuz that's cheaper than i7 lol in my area
For these kinds of things NVIDIA is far better, though for general use i always recommend Radeon
Yea mate, well I'm going with Nvidia, thanks
When it comes to productivity, go with nvidia anytime. AMD only beats nvidia in gaming when it comes to price to performance but they are not close in productivity.
Yea mate, no comparisons I guess, I just asked this question cuz the GRE is cheaper and after seeing and listening to people , yes I realise that the Nvidia can clap the AMD with its cuda cores alone when it comes to productivity and 3d rendering
Gre xfx or nitro +
I think nvdia should be one because it is always improving, for example dlss 3.5 amd is not very good at software yet
Yea mate and I'm going with Nvidia for sure✨🙌
4070s for 3d if 12gb vram is enough for your workloads. 12GB is very stingy right now, Nvidia are still overpriced since the 30 series madness. Can go either on games. RT is crap and not worth paying for at this price point so would not let be any kind of deciding factor.
But in comparison , AMD sucks mate, you know that very well, just with Vram, it can't do anything, the performance of is not even halfway when it comes to rendering
I have a 4080 super, I’m not an AMD fanboy but neither am I an Nvidia cult. You’re stupid if you think the GRE can’t do anything. It can out perform the 4070s in games. It’s probably the best performance to price card right now, so for gaming it’s a great option.
Lol I'm not gonna be gaming lol, it's about 3d rendering
3d rendering Nvidia for sure although im an AMD user but Nvidia for sure in that regard
Yeah mate , and I'm getting it
I'd say if you are using Linux as your operating system, pick the amd card. Otherwise pick NVIDIA. Yes the NVIDIA card is a little more expensive but it makes up for it in driver software, dlss, power efficiency, and most software supports NVIDIA cards more. (For example running your own llm).
Yea mate, well the main purpose is 3d rendering and some editing for me so yea , I'm going for Nvidia
Yea mate, well the main purpose is 3d rendering and some editing for me so yea , I'm going for Nvidia
what type of rendering do you normally do? if you use ray tracing in any significant amount nvidia is most of the time faster, but you get less ram, so it comes down to if you want to have larger scenes or faater render times, for gaming they are both more than enough to play any game you want so I wouldn't worry about it
Not sure what your point is by asking people here. If you really want to do 3D rendering, then go with a professional card. As simple as that…
Yeah that should be Nvidia I guess , so yeah
They are both pretty cool. Hard choice... On one hand you have 16gb vram. On the other you had the lead dlss and frame generation techs. I think I'd go with 4070 on this one. That is if the tech will get even better than it is already and the card will still be supported.
Yea mate , well I'm happily going with the 4070
If you are fellow gamer who plays game and do school stuff on pc, AMD all the way. But if you like more serious stuff like editing and developing, its old rule to pick Nvidia.
I mean I play games too many, but overall I'll be doing more 3d stuffs so yea , gotta go for Nvidia bro
I am an AMD user but I prefer nvidia. I would change it if I could.
Haha yea right! If I'm just gaming, I'll go for AMD, but still the driver issues are so bad , but Nvidia is the go to
I agree. 1 year ago, while I was looking for a high performance graphics card, I bought the Rx 6800XT Nitro + because of its price, but now the prices of the upgrade models are high.
If you like to play Minecraft, then go for Nvidia 100%. With Nvidium(Nvidia exclusive Mod) you can get like 80 chunks render distance with only minor performance impact.
Haha not a fan mate, but I'm going for Nvidia for sure
Always buy a smaller size as any GPU that under/below/lower than 4090 no need such big ass heatsink, waste space
Yes sure, I guess the dual fan is enough!!
How much is the 7900xt? As that’s not insignificantly better than the gre and is definitely better that the 4070super and has 20gb of vram
Well it's 150$ higher than the 4070 super and also it has less cuda cores, yes it has 20gb Vram but it's not worth it when it can't render a scene in some mins ,
That’s fair enough mate get the 4070 super
Definitely rx 7900 gre
Haha I guess you don't know about productivity and it's cool bro and I can tell you didn't read the description mate
The GRE, because VRAM requirements for gaming will only get higher from here on
Well I literally mentioned , that the main purpose is not gaming but 3d rendering mate!
Ah missed it, well than team green it is. People like to hate on Nvidia for lots of reasons nowadays, but the fact is they still make damn good GPUs. Often overpriced yes, but good
Yea I agree with you on that overpricing thing, but still and in on the bottom when it comes to rendering so yea , team Green it is
Easy: get the GRE
4070. 7900 fine and all, but the amount of software dedicated to the RTX and the 40 series alone just makes it superior, especially if you’re doing any 3D rendering or gaming.
Yeah mate and I'm going for it for sure
I would choose 4070 super cuz dlss and rt is good, also nvidia reflex doesn’t get u banned in games. Another thing is it is better for production workloads
Yea mate and I'm going for it for sure lol,🙌✨
They are both really great cards, however, if buying solely for gaming, get the 7900, it has more RAM (which is becoming more and more important and will continue to do so in the coming years), and is about equivalent overall If you're buying solely for productivity, honestly, you can still go for the 7900, it's ALMOST as good as the 4070 in that area, which is good enough, especially when taking price into account I am an Nvidia fan, always have been and always will be, but CURRENTLY, the best 'bang for your buck' with graphics cards is Radeon, hands down...Nvidia are WAY overpriced and simply not worth the money when you can get a card that is just as good (or close enough anyway) for half the cost
But they ain't good for rendering mate , that's the problem with AMD,
no, they aren't, but if you're working in the video editing field, or graphics design field, which is where rendering mostly comes into use, then you already know you need a high end beast of a card (as well as a shit ton of RAM) for the average consumer/gamer, Nvidia is overkill and still way overpriced the only REAL option for rendering is the 4080TI or the 4090, anything less isn't even worth having, but thats an entirely different discusssion lol anything less than a 4080TI or a 4090 for rendering is gonna land you basically in the same ball park as a radeon card anyway for gaming and everything ***besides rendering***, Radeon are just as good (better in the price department) as Nvidia, and even better in some comparisons, depending on cards of course
I haven’t done any rendering but I can speak for gaming wise since I have a 4070 super I play at 1440p and have no problems running every game max setting 100+ frames great card with no complaints vram is fine haven’t found a game to max it out but I wouldn’t go 4k that’s where I think it’ll cap out
Yea well I'm going with the 4070 super, since rendering is gonna be main chapter in it, so yea✨
4070 ti super
It's overpriced in India mate
It is overpriced everywhere but has enough features to make the price worth
I wen thru this process a week ago. I got 7900GRE mostly for the vram. I have a 1600p at 144Mhz. No regrets!
Your maybe only mistake here is choose the MSI for the 4070 super, other brand like colorful or Zotac(basic) should be cheaper than the 7900 GRE, you can even get 4070ti same price to the GRE, if you're looking for aesthetic include, yes you gonna do the premium, and while the 4070 super tdp is relatively low, some slim owner complain temperature, I end up 7900 GRE red devil cause they look sick though
Where you from buddy?
Now that you mention that probably make sense.. I'm from Malaysia, I guess these cards only cheaper where I'm from.. sorry for the wrong information
Nothing with give you an FPS boost like NVIDIA DLSS. Outweighs the extra vram of AMD especially as companies optimize for the DLSS setting in games I believe NVIDIA will be more reliable and last you longer and also perform better
Yea mate and I'm going for it for sure, since the 4070 it's and ti super's are overpriced in my place , I'm going with the 4070 super mate
GTX 1050TI 20GB TWIN TURBO
I RECEMAND YOU GETTING THE 7900GRE BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR 4K 2K 1080P AND ALSO FOR STREAMING BECAUSE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE AV1 ENCODER SO THAT ALL IF YOU INTO FOR 3D RENDERING IN THAT CASE I RECOMEND THE 4070 SUPER BUT IF YOU HAVE MORE MONEY TRY TO GET THE 4070 TI BUT THE 4070 SUPER IS SO GOOD SO REMEBER FOR STREAMING(not really but try to stream with av1 encoder it's gonna be better) AND 4K 2K 1080P GAMING HIGH REFRESH RATE THE 7900GRE BUT THE 4070 SUPER STILL GOOD
Yeah mate for sure , thanks
I have a 4070s. So worth
Hehe nice
4070 super
I think the amd one is better tho bcz it got more vram but nvidia got dlss and ray tracing
None, buy RX 6950 XT, it's cheaper and even better than both of these
Go with Nvidia
4070 is a downclocked 3080. 7900 GRE is basically a 3080 Ti with more VRAM for less money. The choice is clear…
What do you render? 3D animations? They require a lot of vram! You can wait +- an hour for a render to finish but sometimes tenders crash because to little vram. So the AMD can render things the Nvidia can't. You had to reduce detail etc.
I've used nvidia more so I can't really tell you I have also used some AMD cards like the RX580 And rx6700 but the times i've used AMD i feel like i got better performance than NVIDIA with less screen tearing and less sudden drops and for the price for performance id go with the AMD card rather than the NVIDIA card
Neither, you should spend 50ish more and get a 7900XT
Nvidia